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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 14:11 | paul | hello world. |
| 14:11 | is there someone around that can answer a few questions about tools/manage-marc-import.pl and tools/stage-marc-importe.pl ? | |
| 14:13 | owen | Hi paul. Not me :) |
| 14:14 | paul | hi owen |
| 14:16 | atz | owen: i've got AJAX for tagging "on list" working with the "Add Tag" buttons... |
| 14:16 | ... but not when the user hits enter | |
| 14:16 | (which submits the larger cart/bookbag form) | |
| 14:16 | any ideas for a workaround? | |
| 14:17 | owen | should I be able to see that in my install? |
| 14:17 | atz | owen: probably not yet |
| 15:04 | paul | owen around ? |
| 15:05 | (login/passwd : abel/abel), page : http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]endingreserves.pl | |
| 15:06 | the order-able columns items are almost-white on white with blue.css. Can you tell me the name of the css property to change ? | |
| 15:09 | gotcha. it's th.header | |
| 15:09 | owen | I'm too slow! :) Yeah, that was a new css property introduced by the tablesorter js |
| 15:23 | gmcharlt | paul: questions about stage and mange marc-import? |
| 15:23 | paul | yes, ('morning gmcharlt |
| 15:24 | gmcharlt | good afternoon |
| 15:24 | paul | does it store only in reservoir (marc_breeding) table or can it be used to import directly in DB ? |
| 15:25 | gmcharlt | in stores in reservoir (note that the marc_breeding table was renamed to Import_batches and friends), doesn't import directly until you commit via the manage-marc-import.pl tool |
| 15:26 | paul | how do you 'import' ? |
| 15:27 | gmcharlt | it's two step process - stage, then go to batch management and commit |
| 15:27 | paul | stage-marc-import is the 1st step |
| 15:27 | but how do I start the 2nd step ? | |
| 15:28 | gmcharlt | when stage complets, will give you a link to the management page for that batch, or you can access it via the 'manage marc batches' link |
| 15:28 | hdl | you merely click on import |
| 15:28 | paul | mmm... there is a diff between en & french versions... |
| 15:29 | no, it's more a terminology problem I think | |
| 15:29 | the button "Complete import" will transfer from reservoir to catalogue right ? | |
| 15:30 | one of our client thought it was to validate the staging... | |
| 15:30 | the button should be written differently I think. Something like "import to catalogue" | |
| 15:31 | a file with status "staged" is in the reservoir, while a batch with a status "imported" is now in the catalogue, right ? | |
| 15:32 | hdl | I had the same surprise in la Trappe. |
| 15:32 | gmcharlt | yes (but note that when batch is imported, copies of bib are still left in reservoir) |
| 15:32 | paul | shame on me to have never tested that. A customer entered something like 200 biblios in the catalogue without planning to do it... |
| 15:32 | hdl | yes and this is very handy |
| 15:32 | thx gmcharlt | |
| 15:32 | paul | gmcharlt: do you agree to spell the button differently ? |
| 15:34 | hdl | + will be good to be able to make a list to import into catalogue in 3.10 :D |
| 15:34 | gmcharlt | paul: more like I don't disagree - i.e., it's fine with me |
| 15:34 | paul: do you see any ambiguity in the reverse operation ('Undo import')? | |
| 15:34 | paul | ok, will do it immediatly |
| 15:34 | where is the "undo import button"... | |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | it shows up after you completd an import of a batch |
| 15:35 | paul | oh, I see ! |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | if you go back to the same batch, you now have an option to undo it |
| 15:35 | paul | remove it from the catalogue ? |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 15:36 | paul | how does it works (ie : how does it know the biblionumber ?) |
| 15:36 | gmcharlt | when each record is imported, the ID of bib that is added (or replaced) is attached to the staged record via import_biblios |
| 15:36 | also stores copy of previous state of a replaced bib | |
| 15:37 | paul | field matched_biblionumber ? |
| 15:37 | gmcharlt | undo restores original bib (or deletes it if was added) and deletes any items added by the op (keeping other items that were not directly part of that import operation) |
| 15:37 | yes, matched_biblionumber | |
| 15:38 | paul | wow, that's really great, wonderful, powerfull, ... |
| 15:38 | it will just lack the possibility to do some local changes on the item and that would be the handiest tool we could have... | |
| 15:38 | (something like changing the homebranch/holdingbranch) | |
| 15:39 | gmcharlt | and due to have more added to it in post-3.0, including |
| 15:39 | 1. ability to get report of authority heading issues in staged batch | |
| 15:40 | 2. possibly ability to hook in custom routines to parse item data (so that you wouldn't need to create the 952/949/995 fields before staging the file) | |
| 15:40 | 3. implement handling authority record loads in same manner | |
| 15:42 | paul | in France, each "département" (we have 100) has a local "bibliothèque départementale de prêt", who issues large number (200+) books to local small libraries & give them thelist of books they've issued, for inclusion in local ILS. we have to write a specific script for each library to "rewrite" the items on the fly |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt | so some generalized item parsing and mapping mechanism would be useful |
| 15:44 | atz | paul: that sounds difficult |
| 15:44 | paul | atz : we could add a "plugin" system, where we could do those rewrite |
| 15:45 | gmcharlt | how much do the scripts vary - are the main differences just setting the specific branch codes for eaach library, or are there more complicated changes that vary from library to library? |
| 15:45 | paul | sometimes, the library also want some rewrite on localisation (or call number) |
| 15:47 | to specify that "CD" are "1st floor", where "children's book" are "2nd floor", and "adult books" are ... | |
| 15:48 | hdl | this could be handled via batch modifications of biblios |
| 16:28 | owen | paul, hdl, do you know what "without periodicity" means when specifying a serial's frequency? |
| 16:28 | paul | yes. |
| 16:29 | some very specific (usually high level science) don't have a true periodicity | |
| 16:29 | when you subscribe to the title, you subscribe for 6 issues. | |
| 16:29 | which can arrive in 1 year... or 2... | |
| 16:29 | owen | I see there's a choice to say that the frequency is "irregular." Does "irregular" not cover that case? |
| 16:30 | paul | in UNIMARC there are both. I can't say what's the difference... |
| 16:30 | hdl, any idea ? | |
| 16:30 | owen | Interesting, so it's a UNIMARC thing. I wonder if MARC has a corresponding set of descriptions... |
| 16:43 | paul, am correct that serials-collection.pl might list multiple subscriptions? | |
| 16:43 | paul | yes. If you have several subscription of the same title at the same branch |
| 16:44 | owen | thanks |
| 17:11 | paul | bye world. Have a good day/night depending on where you are. |
| 17:12 | hdl | irregular stands for sthg that is not "regular" but has a periodicity |
| 17:13 | owen : say it comes out on January, then in October and December for instance | |
| 17:13 | it is irregular | |
| 17:13 | But without periodicity is when you donot have any regularity | |
| 17:13 | owen | I see: irregular implies that you /do/ know when it comes out |
| 17:13 | with periodicity implies that you don't | |
| 18:07 | ryan | gmcharlt: did you have a patch in the queue for import_borrowers.pl ? |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | ryan: no. why? |
| 18:08 | ryan | i recall talking about allowing user to specify column headers for an import file |
| 18:09 | gmcharlt | right - I can put something together over weekend if needed |
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