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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:11 | ewwc | a dmg file for koha on OSX would be nice |
| 12:12 | kados | ewwc: sure would ... do you know how to create one? |
| 12:12 | ewwc | learning the mac dev stuff |
| 12:13 | will be a while tho | |
| 12:13 | <-- can't even get joha to work with instructions | |
| 12:13 | >_< | |
| 12:14 | technically everything but koha yaz and zebra is on OSX already | |
| 12:14 | kados | and the perl stuff |
| 12:15 | ewwc | its not included in 5.8? |
| 12:15 | kados | not all the dependencies |
| 12:16 | ewwc | maybe something over at apple is stopping ppl from packaging it into a dmg file |
| 12:17 | kados | no ... just that koha uses some obscure perl modules |
| 12:18 | ewwc | so package all necessary perl modules into an installer pkg. Same for yaz and zebra |
| 12:18 | then create a dmg for koha | |
| 12:18 | not as easy as it sounds | |
| 12:23 | ohhh, that's just wrong, apple is still using apache 1 | |
| 12:33 | owen | *yawn* g'morning #koha. |
| 12:34 | kados | morning owen |
| 12:34 | paul | hi owen |
| 12:34 | kados | owen: I'm working on a perl version of the php hold report for NPL |
| 12:34 | owen: just fyi ... | |
| 12:34 | owen | do you think NPL's reserves queue script can be genericized? |
| 12:35 | kados | owen: yea, that's what I'm working on |
| 12:35 | owen: and I don't think it will be too difficult | |
| 12:35 | owen | that's great. |
| 12:35 | ewwc | anyone know where the error log in koha 3 beta2 is? |
| 12:35 | owen | I was just reading through you and paul's conversation about bugs yesterday. |
| 12:36 | Or was that this morning? | |
| 12:36 | paul | it was not yesterday, it was 3 hours ago |
| 12:36 | ;-) | |
| 12:39 | ewwc | and how do I fix this - [fatal] lock file /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [No such file or directory] |
| 12:40 | gmcharlt | ewwc: what installation mode did you use when you installed Koha? "standard"? |
| 12:40 | ewwc | single |
| 12:40 | should i have gone standard? | |
| 12:40 | gmcharlt | no, single's fine |
| 12:40 | logs would be in var/log off of the root directory you picked | |
| 12:41 | and what command are you using to start Zebra? | |
| 12:42 | ewwc | i was following the install walkthru on koha wiki |
| 12:42 | gmcharlt | the ubuntu gutsy one? |
| 12:42 | ewwc | yes |
| 12:43 | the last line on installing koha 3 gave me that error | |
| 12:44 | gmcharlt | that line assumes 'standard'. to start Zebra in a single mode installation, do the following |
| 12:44 | 1. kill any running zebrasrv processes | |
| 12:45 | 2. look for bin/koha-zebra-ct.sh (off of the base directory you picked) | |
| 12:45 | 3. do 'koha-zebra-ctl.sh start' | |
| 12:46 | ewwc | how do i check for and kill zebrasrv processes |
| 12:46 | gmcharlt | ps -ef | grep zebrasrv |
| 12:46 | ewwc | the erro log is showing a lot of errors |
| 12:49 | latest one is - mainpage.pl: D=BEGIN failed- -compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/mainpage.pl line 24 | |
| 12:49 | can i just rerun the koha install script or do I have to remove the previous install first | |
| 12:52 | gmcharlt | ewwc: should be OK to rerun from the Makefile.PL step - do a 'make clean' first |
| 12:52 | owen | Can Koha 3 handle a delete operation on a biblio which has items attached? We can do that in dev_week, but the interface in Koha 3 wants to prevent it |
| 12:53 | paul | owen : afai, it's an interface problem, not a Koha one. |
| 12:53 | kados | owen: no ... first have to delete items, then delete the bib |
| 12:53 | owen: at least that's how I remember it | |
| 12:53 | gmcharlt | kados is right - it would be possible to write a delete items and bibs one-shot function, but even that shouldn't allow deletion of items that are on loan |
| 12:54 | paul | right, but it's not due to Koha internals. A biblio could be deleted with items attached at the same time. |
| 12:54 | kados | paul: don't think it can at the moment |
| 12:54 | owen | Okay, so Koha /will/ prevent me from attempting it (by turning Javascript off) |
| 12:54 | paul | imho it's correct to require deletion of items before deletion of biblios anyway. |
| 12:56 | owen | I think librarians like to be able to delete the biblio and item at the same time when they're deleting the last copy |
| 12:56 | paul | owen: ++ |
| 12:56 | owen | I think that's why we've got it in dev_week |
| 13:03 | ewwc | can we assume that if the Makefile.PL returns a prerequisite not found that we have to fetch it and reMakefilePL? |
| 13:06 | gmcharlt | ewwc: yes, you'll need to install the prereq, but you don't need to rerun Makefile.PL |
| 13:07 | ewwc | which means anything I Make without it will break the program a bit |
| 13:10 | gmcharlt | no, once you install the missing preqreqs, you can then run make - no need to redo Makefile.PL, which checks the prereqs but doesn't do anything with them per se |
| 13:12 | ewwc | technically speaking, can I install koha3 on this mac using the same instructions as the unbuntu one? |
| 13:13 | gmcharlt | ewwc: mostly. the big difference is that most of the Perl modules would have to be installed from CPAN, and are not packaged like in Debian and Ubuntu |
| 13:13 | ewwc | the ubuntu walkthru had me downloading a whole bunch of modules anyway |
| 13:30 | owen | Looks like a couple of things are consistently missing from opac-opensearch.pl: startIndex (<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="page" -->) and itemsPerPage (<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="count" -->) |
| 13:30 | I'm wondering if either of those need dynamic values | |
| 13:30 | Wouldn't a feed normally always start at 1 and have a set number of results? | |
| 13:31 | atz | I don't mind recirculating values, as long as they get checked/limited on the way in |
| 13:32 | kados | opac-opensearch.pl is deprecated |
| 13:32 | owen | I mean opac-opensearch.tmpl |
| 13:32 | kados | use opac-search.pl?format=rss2 or format=atom |
| 13:32 | ahh, right | |
| 13:33 | yea, it's missing some variables ... I've got that on my shortlist | |
| 15:09 | eric | Hi there. Anybody have problem with utf-8 and Marc 21 on Koha 3? |
| 15:09 | paul | could someone remind me something about bugzilla : |
| 15:10 | priority P5 means "lower priority" & P1 mean "higher priority" or the opposite ? | |
| 15:11 | http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]lds.html#priority | |
| 15:11 | is the answer. | |
| 15:11 | gmcharlt | eric: what sort of problem? |
| 15:13 | eric | gmcharlt, when I'm getting a record with, lets say é, from a z39.50 server, they are not imported correctly |
| 15:13 | you can do a search of 'Astérix' for example | |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt | what z39.50 target? and what is the name of the character in question (not showing up in my IRC client) |
| 15:14 | eric | you can use library of congress. The character is e acute |
| 15:16 | kados | eric: can you reproduce the error here: http://koha.liblime.com/cgi-bi[…]uing/addbiblio.pl |
| 15:17 | eric | kados: last time i tried i got the problem. I'll double check that |
| 15:17 | you can search for LCCN: 89873320 | |
| 15:19 | kados | not finding LCC 89873320 |
| 15:19 | hang on | |
| 15:20 | I see now | |
| 15:20 | it comes back with a corruption of the acute accent | |
| 15:20 | Astâerix | |
| 15:20 | looks like double-encoding | |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | eric: workaround found - in SQL, set z3950servers.encoding = 'MARC-8' for the LC target |
| 15:20 | eric | yep, that is. |
| 15:20 | kados | maybe LOC's got utf8 claiming to be marc8 or the other way around? |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | I'll take a look at fixing the Z3950 target administration page so that it can do that |
| 15:21 | kados | gmcharlt: we've discussed this in the past, we almost need two encoding types ... 'claims encoding' and 'actual encoding' |
| 15:21 | ie, one you send, and the other you receive | |
| 15:22 | gmcharlt | kados: would work except that charset negotiation is not reliable in Z39.50 - must determine what target is actually submitting, then set Koha accordingly |
| 15:23 | perhaps adding a widget to the Z39.50 admin page to do test searches would help - add documentation to search for something known to have diacritics, and go through encoding options until it hitlist looks right | |
| 15:23 | other part, of course, is making sure that sample target defs are correct | |
| 15:28 | eric | thanks for the workaround gmcharlt. It works fine. |
| 15:33 | Oh! it seems that I have found another problem. After having imported Asterix, it seems that I can not find it if I do not use the accented letter. | |
| 15:33 | So, Asterix returns 0 result, and Astérix is ok. Any clue? | |
| 15:34 | gmcharlt | eric: yeah, I need to commit some default character normalization rules to the English MARC21 Zebra config |
| 15:34 | paul | yep. Eric, you can use the unimarc/french things for that. |
| 15:34 | it's complete. | |
| 15:34 | eric | where do I have to set this? |
| 15:35 | paul | head/etc/zebradb/lang_defs/fr/sort-string-utf.chr |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | eric: in your zebra conf directory, look for sort-strings-utf8.chr - copy the fr one to your en config, and restart zebrasrv |
| 15:35 | you may need to also reindex (rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r) | |
| 15:35 | paul | and reindex your datas I think |
| 15:35 | yep | |
| 15:35 | gmcharlt | snap |
| 15:36 | eric | is there a way to flush all zebra indexes and rebuild them? I still have leftover data from a previous installation |
| 15:37 | paul | -r with rebuild_zebra |
| 15:37 | r like reset ;-) | |
| 15:37 | eric | cool. thanks paul! |
| 15:38 | hdl | ++ interaction of lists with Zotero... |
| 15:38 | Is it possible to have it for result lists too ? | |
| 15:39 | owen | For opac-search.pl? It's there |
| 15:40 | hdl | Not on my lists. |
| 15:40 | Not on my result search | |
| 15:40 | But I have the RSS Icon, maybe conflicting | |
| 15:41 | owen | No, it shouldn't conflict |
| 15:41 | kados | owen: I wasn't able to get zotero working on the results list either |
| 15:41 | owen | http://oleonard.dev.kohalibrar[…]search.pl?q=teach |
| 15:42 | kados | oh, I see |
| 15:42 | it's a folder icon | |
| 15:42 | neat | |
| 15:42 | hdl | Good owen. It workd for you. Not for me. |
| 15:42 | kados | owen++ |
| 15:42 | hdl | http://o15.hdlaurent.paulpoula[…]idx=&q=particules |
| 15:43 | but it works for lists so it should be OK soon. | |
| 15:44 | (that also may be a problem of opac-resultlists update) | |
| 15:44 | will investigate | |
| 15:44 | owen ++++ | |
| 15:45 | owen | owen-- for letting the OPAC search bar break when form fields get too long :( |
| 15:46 | hdl | :P |
| 16:03 | owen | paul, is there a patch pending for fixing OPACViewOthersSuggestions? |
| 16:03 | paul | not from me. hdl ? |
| 16:04 | eric | when rebuilind the index, i got multiple 'Failed to read character table sort-string-utf.chr'... |
| 16:05 | paul | ton fichier n'est pas en utf-8 |
| 16:05 | ou alors c'est ta config qui ne l'est pas | |
| 16:05 | oups, sorry, should have answered in english here ;-) | |
| 16:05 | eric | hehe |
| 16:05 | paul | your file is not saved in utf-8 format. |
| 16:06 | or your zebra config don't specify you're in utf-8 | |
| 16:08 | eric | checking this |
| 17:18 | hdl | owen : from me yes |
| 17:39 | kados | paul_koha: i've just pushed up some changes that I hope will address most of the US library holds problems |
| 17:40 | paul_koha: completely external from holds management proper ... just a report with a holdsqueue table and a batch script to update it | |
| 18:19 | owen | kados, can we get the full branch name passed to the template for the view_holdsqueue.pl results output? |
| 18:20 | kados | owen: yea, knew you'd ask that :-) |
| 18:23 | owen | kados, I just put some things on reserve but don't see them coming up in the results for all branches |
| 18:39 | kados | owen: sorry ... didn't mention you have to run the cron job |
| 18:45 | hey danny | |
| 18:57 | owen | C'mon, how can Yahoo be down? |
| 19:03 | danny | hey kados and #koha |
| 19:30 | owen | Later, all. |
| 20:20 | chris | morning |
| 20:52 | acmoore | some interesting git tutorials http://www.gitcasts.com/ |
| 20:56 | chris | oh cool |
| 21:04 | acmoore | yeah, I just know that there are about a zillion git tricks that I don't know about yet. add --interactive was one of them. I like being able to choose only some hunks out of a file for a commit. |
| 21:33 | chris | yeah |
| 21:33 | stash is currently my fave | |
| 21:33 | and i like blame too :) | |
| 21:46 | have you used git-gc before? | |
| 06:02 | atz | anybody used the "cogito" version of git? |
| 06:06 | chris | yeah its pretty much deprecated now |
| 06:07 | all the stuff has been folded into git | |
| 06:07 | atz | ah cool |
| 06:08 | chris | it certainly was a lot nicer than plain git pre 1.4ish |
| 06:36 | atz | big Tags AJAX patch sent! |
| 06:40 | and now, teh sleepingz.... | |
| 07:41 | hdl | prob |
| 08:57 | chris | hmm spam to the patches list |
| 09:10 | hdl | chris: yes. |
| 09:10 | Sorry. | |
| 09:10 | chris | no problem |
| 09:20 | lloyd_ | I didn't get it, exchange must have binned it :) |
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