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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:23 | hdl | hi nengard |
| 12:23 | nengard | hiya |
| 13:28 | kados | hdl: can you re-submit your Addressing bug 1782 patch? |
| 13:28 | hdl: after a rebase | |
| 13:30 | hdl | ok |
| 13:30 | have you pushed some patches ? | |
| 13:31 | kados | hdl: I believe so |
| 13:31 | hdl: the patch you sent didn't apply, is why I ask | |
| 13:32 | hdl | Is it not an encoding problem ? |
| 13:33 | resent. | |
| 13:34 | acmoore | I wonder if we would benefit from having one of these bots tell us each time a particular patch was applied. |
| 13:34 | hdl | git stash ++ |
| 13:52 | kados | hdl: no luck: |
| 13:52 | error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql:183 | |
| 13:52 | error: installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/sysprefs.sql: patch does not apply | |
| 13:52 | error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/unimarc_standard_systemprefs.sql:185 | |
| 13:53 | error: installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1-Obligatoire/unimarc_standard_systemprefs.sql: patch does not apply | |
| 13:53 | fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (admin/systempreferences.pl). | |
| 13:53 | Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge. | |
| 13:53 | hdl: are you sure you rebased and have submitted all related patches? | |
| 13:53 | hdl | yes I rebased. |
| 13:54 | And I had only one patch for that bug. | |
| 13:56 | kados | hdl: there must be something missing ... |
| 13:57 | hdl: can you try taking a fresh clone and applying it agains git.koha.org? | |
| 13:59 | hdl | will do soon. |
| 14:00 | I try to solve another big problem | |
| 14:28 | lloyd_ | mmm |
| 14:28 | "Circulation and fines rules (alternate layout)" - big improvement over the old method! | |
| 14:30 | kados | lloyd_: depends on who you ask :-) |
| 14:30 | lloyd_ | well.. It certainly beats the best part of 100 input boxes being on the screen :p |
| 14:31 | kados | yea ... it's good if you have a lot of item types and/or patron categories |
| 14:31 | but IMO, most libraries really don't need that many | |
| 14:32 | and now that you can have ccodes and shelf locations defined at the item level | |
| 14:32 | lloyd_ | well the old way is ugly and very unuser friendly |
| 14:32 | kados | the only purpose of itype at the item level is for circulation codes |
| 14:33 | lloyd_ | I presume there will be a syspref to show the matrix or the new system? |
| 14:34 | kados | nope |
| 14:34 | they are two views of the exact same information | |
| 14:35 | lloyd_ | yea, so surely it makes sense to have an option to show one or the other. Displaying both will just confuse people |
| 14:35 | gmcharlt | I'd prefer that the older ones get removed at some point |
| 14:36 | lloyd_ | yah it'd be better to remove it |
| 14:36 | but if people are still using it, and want to keep using it | |
| 14:38 | ryan | yes, the sums aren't handled. |
| 14:38 | kados | and Default isn't either |
| 14:38 | IIRC | |
| 14:38 | gmcharlt | it should be - * entries |
| 14:39 | my real problem with the older ones is bug 2000 | |
| 14:39 | ryan | however, you can't use the matrix if you're using fines and using defaults |
| 14:39 | i think we must remove the fines matrix | |
| 14:40 | and only use the circ matrix if you don't use fines. | |
| 14:41 | kados | I'd be fine with consolidating and removing the old circ and fines matrices |
| 14:41 | so long as the new ones do all the stame stuff the old ones do | |
| 14:41 | ryan | well, there has to be some solution to 2000. |
| 14:42 | so we need to add that functionality to the smartrules. | |
| 14:42 | gmcharlt | I agree, and will work on it as part of some general bugfixing that I'll do later this week |
| 14:43 | kados | yay |
| 14:43 | ryan | gmcharlt++ |
| 14:44 | kados | bbl |
| 16:22 | nengard | zotero question - I don't use this tool much - does anyone know why when you add an item from koha to zotero the view button is grayed out? the only option is to locate and that sends me to worldcat |
| 16:22 | also - zotero doesn't seem to be working on opac.liblime.com but it works on my install | |
| 17:20 | thd | ryan, kados: where is the Liblime 2.2 demo? |
| 18:17 | tim | I'm working on Koha 3 and the search results in the OPAC don't display call numbers. |
| 18:19 | It looks like it's supposed to display cn_class and cn_item. | |
| 18:20 | biblioitems.cn_class has a call number in it and biblioitems.cn_items has something, but it's not our call numbers. | |
| 18:21 | gmcharlt | tim: might need some tweaking to display items.itemcallnumber |
| 18:23 | tim | It seem strange that it's not displaying anything since the fields are filled int the database. |
| 18:45 | atz | tim: the problem is that in a large system, you might have 40 different libraries w/ 40 different call numbers |
| 18:45 | there is no 1 call number for a biblio | |
| 18:45 | the old display used to concatenate them all and make one big ugly link out of them | |
| 21:02 | chris | morning |
| 21:06 | gmcharlt | hi chris |
| 21:06 | chris | heya galen, hows things? |
| 21:06 | gmcharlt | pretty good |
| 21:06 | loading some data for a customer right now | |
| 21:07 | chris | sweet |
| 21:07 | gmcharlt | how are things with you? |
| 21:07 | chris | busy but good, being doing a bunch of work with load balancing, and memcache |
| 21:07 | learning good tricks | |
| 21:07 | s/being/been/ | |
| 21:09 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 21:11 | chris | memcache will be handy when we get koha playing nice with mod_perl ;) |
| 21:13 | well we could use it even now actually | |
| 21:14 | run memcached on the opac server(s) so it only needs to talk back to the database server when the object is not cached, or it has expired etc | |
| 21:23 | gmcharlt | looks interesting for caching things like expensive-to-parse bib records and OPAC displays |
| 21:23 | chris | yep |
| 21:23 | gmcharlt | would have to be careful (very careful) about caching item info |
| 21:24 | chris | yep, its the same with the stock exchange |
| 21:24 | we cant present old data | |
| 21:24 | but there are lots of parts of the page that can be cached | |
| 21:25 | things like first listed date, first traded, trades yesterday etc | |
| 21:25 | instead of pounding oracle a few thousand times every second to get those :) | |
| 21:31 | gmcharlt | heck, not just the database - if we could cache XSLT transformer objects, that would probably be a great win all by itself |
| 21:31 | chris | very true |
| 21:36 | atz | gmcharlt: memcached is surprisingly easy to use |
| 21:36 | chris | heya joe |
| 21:36 | http://stuff.co.nz/blogs/coolk[…]tar-wars-geekdom/ | |
| 21:37 | atz | and it's pretty nice to just be able to throw RAM at a problem if you choose to |
| 21:38 | chris: is that $3,800 NZD ? | |
| 21:38 | how much in real money? | |
| 21:38 | :) | |
| 21:38 | chris | what euro? :) |
| 21:38 | prolly with te | |
| 21:39 | whoops | |
| 21:39 | atz | barrels of oil, more likely.... |
| 21:39 | chris | prolly around 2999 |
| 21:39 | the nz dollar is still pretty high vs the us | |
| 21:40 | 79.20 cents apparently | |
| 21:41 | only a few years ago | |
| 21:41 | we bout 49cents | |
| 21:41 | bought even | |
| 21:41 | thats what g w will do to your economy :-) | |
| 21:42 | gmcharlt | hehe - Canadian dollar too (and that actually worked out to my advantage recently) |
| 21:51 | atz | yeah, you know times is rough when the loon trumps the greenback |
| 21:53 | chris | yup |
| 21:53 | guten abend cait | |
| 21:54 | cait | guten abend chris |
| 21:54 | chris | or should it be nacht for you? |
| 21:55 | cait | six minutes to midnight |
| 21:55 | chris | ahh so morgen for me, nacht for you :) |
| 21:55 | cait | its late again today - got a package from amazon today... first book finished now. seems im a real librarian - sometimes. |
| 21:56 | what time is it for you chris? | |
| 21:57 | chris | 9.57am wednesday |
| 21:58 | cait | working time, i see |
| 22:04 | atz | chris: give me $12 Billion USD per month to spend, and I'll show you how to wreck an economy... |
| 22:04 | chris | lol |
| 22:31 | thd | does anyone know the current URL for the English Koha 2.2 demo? |
| 22:31 | chris | not me |
| 08:20 | zsh | Hi. Does koha have a z39.50 server? |
| 08:23 | there is mention of the client in the docs, none(as far as i can see) about the server | |
| 08:24 | paul | hi zsh |
| 08:24 | zsh | hi paul |
| 08:24 | paul | koha 3.0 has one, and the best you can have, as it's "shipped" with zebra |
| 08:25 | zsh | what about 2.2.9? |
| 08:25 | paul | in 2.2.9 you can have one, but a very basic one. |
| 08:25 | I would not recommend it at all | |
| 08:26 | zsh | ok. Merci. :) |
| 08:26 | I'll check out koha .0 | |
| 08:27 | 3.0 | |
| 08:36 | Solomon | does koha come with an inbuilt z3950 server? |
| 08:36 | paul_ | hi Solomon. Zsh asked the same question 20m ago ! |
| 08:37 | so my answer : | |
| 08:37 | koha 3.0 has one, and the best you can have, as it's "shipped" with zebra | |
| 08:37 | in 2.2.9 you can have one, but a very basic one. | |
| 08:37 | I would not recommend it at all | |
| 11:46 | hdl | hi nengard |
| 11:46 | nengard | morning hdl |
| 11:50 | paul | hi nengard |
| 11:51 | nengard | morning paul |
| 11:51 | how are things across the ocean? :) | |
| 11:51 | paul | (not morning for us, it's alreday finished in France ;-) ) |
| 11:51 | things are really too busy in fact... | |
| 11:52 | nengard | yeah - I'm sure |
| 11:52 | i've had too many speaking engagements recently, i'm happy to get to spend the day at home today |
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