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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:05 | hdl | hi gmcharlt |
| 13:05 | gmcharlt | hi hdl |
| 13:05 | hdl | are you around ? |
| 13:05 | kados | hi guys |
| 13:06 | hdl | hi kados |
| 13:06 | gmcharlt | hi kados |
| 13:07 | kados | hdl: plan to do a bugfix meeting today still? |
| 13:07 | hdl | Reading my message about bug sqaushing sessions back today, I realised that time schedule was wrong. |
| 13:07 | But session I would like to have it today. Yes. | |
| 13:08 | kados | OK |
| 13:08 | hdl | What time would be better for you all ? |
| 13:09 | kados | well, /me wants to roll the 3.0 beta this weekend |
| 13:09 | and that could take about 6-8 hours :-) | |
| 13:10 | hdl | could we have it begin at 19pm French time ? |
| 13:10 | Or should we begin now. | |
| 13:10 | kados | hdl: what time is that in GMT? |
| 13:10 | hdl | 17GMT |
| 13:11 | kados | so Noon US time |
| 13:11 | hdl | OK. |
| 13:11 | So we should start now. | |
| 13:12 | kados | hdl: I was thinking we should work on bugs, but also, I'd like to migrate the mailing lists next week |
| 13:12 | hdl | And stop it at noon. |
| 13:12 | kados | hdl: can we schedule a time to do that next week? |
| 13:13 | hdl | Can you give me the login to catch the lists and have it on our server. |
| 13:13 | ? | |
| 13:13 | I would like to test it. | |
| 13:15 | kados | it's important that the transition be seamless, obviously |
| 13:15 | it was pretty simple when we moved from sourceforge.com to savannah because the savannah guys took care of all the hard stuff :-) | |
| 13:15 | like history, etc. | |
| 13:16 | hdl | Yes. |
| 13:16 | hi fbcit. | |
| 13:17 | kados | hdl: did you address MJ's question about Mailman? |
| 13:18 | hdl | When he said we should change our mailing list software ? |
| 13:19 | kados | well, I think he asked a question about mailman |
| 13:19 | hdl | I had no time setting up a new one on our box and test it. |
| 13:19 | kados | s a better list software than Mailman possible? mlmmj, ecartis, |
| 13:19 | sympa and eoc all appear better in some ways. | |
| 13:19 | Can the List-Id values be preserved if lists moved? Last I saw, | |
| 13:19 | Mailman couldn't cope with that (it had to be listname.domain), which | |
| 13:19 | breaks some good email filters. I think that should rule out Mailman | |
| 13:19 | if we're considering moving lists. | |
| 13:21 | that was from slef | |
| 13:21 | slef/mj :-) | |
| 13:21 | hdl | I cannot answer him until I try to move the lists from savannah to our server. |
| 13:21 | kados | OK |
| 13:22 | I am trying to get SSH access now | |
| 13:22 | hdl | I donot know which mailman version they use. |
| 13:24 | OK. | |
| 13:26 | So. Should we have bug squashing time now. For 2 hours and then have an other one at 22PM GMT ? | |
| 13:29 | kados | OK |
| 13:31 | hdl | Should we review bugs we already see last time ? |
| 13:31 | kados | hdl: sure |
| 13:31 | hdl | Should we fix them. |
| 13:31 | Now. | |
| 13:31 | kados | probably :-) |
| 13:31 | hdl | http://tinyurl.com/2s7q3d |
| 13:31 | So here it is. | |
| 13:37 | kados | hdl: I have a few bugs to push up ... they may affect your bugfixing |
| 13:37 | hdl | Then Push. I will rebase |
| 13:40 | kados | hdl: your fix for 1898, you want me to ignore the first one, right? |
| 13:40 | hdl | Yes. |
| 13:40 | I included the first one in the second. | |
| 13:50 | fbcit | why is opac so slow? |
| 13:51 | kados | fbcit: ? |
| 13:52 | fbcit | it seems to crawl lately |
| 13:52 | kados | fbcit: anything in particular that it's slow at? |
| 13:53 | fbcit | kados: page loads |
| 13:54 | kados: 'volume number' is not used in opac that I can see | |
| 13:55 | kados | fbcit: OK, it should probably be added |
| 13:55 | fbcit: are you using remote or local YUI? | |
| 13:56 | fbcit | kados: local |
| 13:58 | kados | fbcit: that could be the prob :-) |
| 13:58 | fbcit | ? |
| 13:58 | kados | fbcit: I think YUI servers have some special cacheing settings on the js libraries |
| 13:58 | fbcit | it was slow before, using remove |
| 13:58 | remote also | |
| 13:58 | kados | oh |
| 13:58 | :/ | |
| 13:59 | fbcit | it improved when I went local initially |
| 13:59 | but slowed down over time | |
| 13:59 | kados | weird |
| 14:00 | fbcit | I notice that we set "Cache-Control" to no-cache in the headers of all pages |
| 14:00 | kados | yea, that was actually a bug report |
| 14:00 | fbcit | any specific reason |
| 14:00 | kados | and should likely be a syspref |
| 14:01 | lemme track down the exchange | |
| 14:01 | fbcit | maybe a time to expire would be better |
| 14:01 | kados | I think that only caches the HTML portion of the page |
| 14:01 | fbcit | although some pages we might not want cached |
| 14:03 | kados | fbcit: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1373 |
| 14:03 | ouch | |
| 14:04 | fbcit: see if it's faster when you remove the lines: | |
| 14:04 | -Pragma => 'no-cache', -'Cache-Control' => 'no-cache', | |
| 14:10 | :) | |
| 14:11 | fbcit | this is painfully slow... 30-45 secs per page load |
| 14:12 | kados | hmmm |
| 14:12 | fbcit: http://opacdemo.koha.org/ | |
| 14:12 | fbcit: is running latest git | |
| 14:12 | fbcit: any faster? | |
| 14:13 | fbcit | on the order of a magnitude faster aamof |
| 14:14 | kados | ok, so it's server-side |
| 14:14 | what's your server load? | |
| 14:14 | top should give you a good snapshot | |
| 14:15 | fbcit | load average: 0.14, 0.23, 0.20 |
| 14:15 | cpu is 99.8% idle | |
| 14:15 | very strange | |
| 14:16 | 1GB ram and no paging file used | |
| 14:16 | kados | OK, so it must be the network |
| 14:16 | :) | |
| 14:16 | fbcit | heh |
| 14:16 | kados | ntop |
| 14:16 | fbcit | 0.037ms rtt |
| 14:17 | kados | weird |
| 14:18 | have you restarted your browser lately? | |
| 14:18 | fbcit | so what am I looking for w/ntop? |
| 14:18 | no on browser | |
| 14:19 | kados | if a browser restart works, that indicates perhaps a memory or variable leak? |
| 14:20 | ntop I haven't used in 10 years :-) | |
| 14:20 | well, 5 at least | |
| 14:20 | so I can't recall ... I think it has some kind of web front end | |
| 14:20 | wheren you can see trafic patterns | |
| 14:21 | fbcit | sounds interesting |
| 14:24 | ttyl | |
| 14:24 | still slow btw | |
| 14:24 | kados | :( |
| 14:24 | fbcit | I'll keep working on it |
| 14:24 | tnx | |
| 14:25 | kados | it could be mysql needs query cacheing adjusted |
| 14:25 | that'd be in the my.cnf file | |
| 14:25 | key is to find the bottlekenck | |
| 14:25 | bottleneck | |
| 14:27 | fbcit | tnx... on the phone |
| 16:52 | martinmorris | afternoon all |
| 16:52 | can anybody here advise if future editions of Koha will support FRBR? | |
| 19:01 | frederic | hello |
| 19:03 | atz_is_elsewher | martinmorris: yes, FRBR is currently being developed |
| 19:10 | gmcharlt might be able to tell you more details | |
| 21:08 | hdl | hi |
| 21:12 | atz | hdl: you may be interested to see this: |
| 21:12 | http://libx.org/gbs/ | |
| 21:12 | using Google Book jacket images (very slickly applied w/ js) | |
| 21:14 | hdl | atz : cool but will it be ok with French Books + what about : |
| 21:15 | atz | I think Google's reach will be less than Amazon initially... but we will see |
| 21:15 | hdl | a) books without ISBN or LCCN |
| 21:15 | atz | what do we do presently w/ Amazon? |
| 21:15 | nothing, i think | |
| 21:16 | hdl | we display a bad no image for that book. |
| 21:16 | atz | yeah, looks rather out of place |
| 21:18 | hdl | Librarything code for displaying "fake" cover images could be good for that. |
| 21:19 | atz | i have to read more about the Google API, but just looking at the HTML source for that demo page... it is very clean |
| 21:20 | w/ the Amazon module falling out of date (Amazon started enforcing new API), now would be a good time to look at this stuff again | |
| 21:20 | hopefully I will be able to do so next week | |
| 21:24 | frederic | hi guys! It's funny you're talking about Google Book Search API. I played with it this afternoon. |
| 21:24 | It's very easy to use. | |
| 21:24 | hdl: Est-ce que tu es intéressé à avoir les facettes en français en recherche ? | |
| 21:25 | J'ai proposé qque chose à kados. Je n'ai pas de nouvelle... | |
| 21:25 | hdl | Allez épate moi. |
| 21:25 | ;) | |
| 21:25 | frederic | Et je ne vais pas rester bien longtement derrière mon écran :) |
| 21:25 | J'ai envoyé qque chose mais je ne l'ai plus | |
| 21:25 | hdl | (english speaking here.) |
| 21:26 | can you point URL ? | |
| 21:26 | frederic | yes naturlich. |
| 21:26 | Concerning Google Search: | |
| 21:26 | http://lesc.koha.tamil.fr/cgi-[…]Aparkin%2C+robert | |
| 21:27 | kados: do you plan to integrate something to allow facets translation? | |
| 21:27 | ryan | hello #koha |
| 21:27 | atz | facets currently operate via Zebra, as I understand it |
| 21:28 | frederic | atz: I already sent a patch to allow translation of facet labels |
| 21:29 | hdl | hi ryan. |
| 21:29 | frederic | But it's not so easy to do since it's require someting like a configuration file which has to be copied in the appropriate directory with other zebra config files |
| 21:30 | atz | ah, i see... not part of the usual translation process |
| 21:31 | frederic | In other languages than English, it's definitely awful to have a result page with facet lables hard coded in English... |
| 21:32 | hdl: There is another aspect: facets can be expand on each site. One site could decide to allow facet search on a new field. This only could be done via a config file (my opinion :)) | |
| 21:35 | hdl | Well : good idea. But eventually, we should provide a way for the user to do this without having troubles with configuraiton files. |
| 21:35 | have you sent your patch to paul ? | |
| 21:36 | frederic | Not sure but I think so |
| 21:41 | hdl | atz : seems that facets are still not calculated with zebra today. |
| 21:43 | ... But i may have overlooked the code. | |
| 21:45 | frederic | hdl: I confirm facets are not generated using zebra zebra but with a loop through biblio records result set |
| 21:49 | I have to go. Good night (day). | |
| 22:08 | hdl | good night |
| 22:25 | is there anyone ? | |
| 22:45 | kados ? | |
| 23:18 | Going to bed now. |
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