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13:23 | kados | paul/hdl reply to your email :-) |
13:23 | g'morning all | |
13:36 | hey owen | |
13:51 | owen | Sorry, kados, I was just getting my ear chewed off by a cataloger ;) |
14:06 | gmcharlt | greetings #koha |
14:31 | paul | hello kados, owen & gmcharlt |
14:32 | owen | Hi paul |
14:32 | gmcharlt | hi paul |
15:57 | atz | "I, for one, welcome our new CGI leaders...." |
16:17 | owen: i'm guessing that was all the ppl who wanted to test ahead of time that they could get on channel | |
16:17 | or rather, one person | |
16:18 | owen | IRC is a big scary world |
16:18 | atz | not sure how to interpret the ~465b756166.249.19.54 |
16:20 | fbcit | hello koha |
16:26 | gmcharlt | hi fbcit |
16:55 | fbcit | is anyone familiar with C4::Labels::draw_boundaries ? |
17:15 | owen | is anyone familiar with how I can erase all copies of Internet Explorer 6 from existence? |
17:15 | paul | owen : just install linux :-D |
17:15 | atz | format c: |
17:15 | owen | That might help me, but I want everyone else's gone too! |
17:16 | atz | hah... nice. www.getfirefox.com is as close as I can get, there. |
17:17 | gmcharlt | owen: first, find a helpful ninja |
17:17 | owen: then find lots of cash :) | |
17:18 | owen | I guess debugging my CSS and JS in IE will be cheaper in the long run |
17:37 | fbcit | IE == Idiot's Elysium |
17:59 | atz | that's the same CGI IP, methinks |
18:00 | :q | |
18:23 | glh | Just checking bye |
19:28 | [K] | *** join #kohaFreeNode: dbs n=danpdpc/supporter/active/denials |
19:29 | chris | hey dan |
19:29 | [K] | <dbsFreeNode> long time no visit :) |
20:14 | chris | hey rosa |
20:17 | Rosa | Hi chris |
20:21 | fbcit | is the Label code new to Koha 3? |
20:23 | chris | its in dev_week |
20:24 | fbcit | chris: do you know if anyone is using it to print barcode labels on Avery 5160 labels? |
20:25 | chris | good question, off the top of my head, no i dont know |
20:25 | fbcit | or is it in production use at all? |
20:25 | chris | yes, i know Opus here in nz print labels |
20:25 | i think some libraries in the US use it too, ryan would know | |
20:27 | fbcit | I had some problems with creep and it seems that Avery's published template dimensions are to blame |
20:27 | I'd love to talk with someone who is using it in production to compare notes | |
20:32 | ryan appears to be ryan_ right now :) | |
20:32 | chris | yup |
20:33 | nengard | hi |
20:33 | chris | hey nicole |
20:33 | rosa: have you met nicole? she is a prolific and respected blogger, a librarian, now an open source evangelist, and all round nice person | |
20:34 | nengard | wow |
20:34 | what a nice intro | |
20:34 | chris | rosa is the head librarian at HLT and the main reason Koha exists |
20:34 | nengard | hi rosa |
20:34 | thd` | gmcharlt: I sent you an email with a link to an archive documenting the installation bug I have been experiencing |
20:34 | chris | who may in fact now have wandered away from the keyboard to run her library :-) |
20:35 | nengard | k |
20:35 | chris | but she'll read back ;) |
20:35 | hey thd | |
20:35 | nengard | well - anyone can contact me via my info on http://web2learning.net |
20:36 | gmcharlt | thd: got it; I'll review it |
20:47 | Rosa | hi nengard. yep I wandered off, not to run my library, but to have a grand morning tea to farwell three of my student assistants |
20:48 | nengard | sounds fun |
20:51 | Rosa | Where do you come from, nicole? |
20:51 | nengard | Philadelphia, PA, USA |
20:52 | well - a bit north of there | |
20:52 | but close enough | |
21:09 | thd | chris: can I buy some sleep from you? |
21:09 | chris | heh |
21:09 | not getting much myself | |
21:09 | nengard | i could use more too |
21:09 | chris | Kahurangi has 4 molars coming in |
21:09 | nengard | ahhhh |
21:10 | :( | |
21:13 | chris | ouch |
21:16 | owen | I guess molars are going around, mine's gettin' 'em too |
21:16 | chris | fbcit: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=10929 |
21:17 | thats a recent photo of my son, you have one of your daughter? | |
21:17 | owen: not a lot of fun eh? | |
21:17 | i guess you have had practice before tho eh :-) | |
21:18 | fbcit | chris: he's a fine looking young man |
21:18 | owen | Not too bad, it's really the combination of that and the cold that is causing the trouble |
21:18 | chris | ahh yeah, lucky for us its nice and warm, so if his teeth wake him up, he can sometimes go back to sleep |
21:18 | fbcit | chris: I don't have one online, I'll get one scanned up where you can see |
21:18 | chris | cool :) |
21:19 | we could have a koha kids club :) | |
21:19 | fbcit | :-) |
21:20 | owen: my daughter has had a cold on top of teething this past week or so | |
21:20 | gmcharlt | chris: and resurrect blobby-man for the kids club? :) |
21:21 | chris | hehe good idea |
21:22 | i have a blobby man tshirt | |
21:22 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=10222 | |
21:23 | owen | Speaking of children, I'd better head out to get mine... |
21:23 | chris | cya owen |
21:28 | gmcharlt | thd: I've retrieved your install directory and logs in case you need to reclaim the space |
21:42 | thd | gmcharlt: I do not need to regain the space. My remote server has more unused space than my local machine which needs a new hard drive :) |
21:44 | gmcharlt: maybe I can reward my local machine with a new hard drve if koha will install without that error. I could even reward myself. | |
21:44 | gmcharlt | thd: I shall endeavor to help give you an excuse to reward your computer ;-) |
21:46 | thd | gmcharlt: if you look at the archive file times, you should see that I spent all night on this again. I need to reward myself with some more sleep sometime ;) |
21:46 | atz | I'll sell you some, cheap. |
21:46 | gmcharlt | thd: I got a checkinstall error; I'm now in the process of setting up a completely clean Debian Etch VM to do more testing |
21:47 | atz: if only it worked that way :( | |
21:47 | thd | gmcharlt did you have a different checkinstall error from me? |
21:47 | atz | gmcharlt: just try it. paypal me teh monies$$$ |
21:48 | gmcharlt | thd: yes, it died when set_koha_permissions was attempting chown |
21:48 | thd: but I need to start fresh so that I'm not attempting a checkinstall onto a VM that already has a default koha install on it | |
21:49 | thd: attempting chmod, rather | |
21:49 | thd | gmcharlt: I repoted that rror yesterday if I manually created /etc/koha in advance |
21:50 | gmcharlt | thd: yeah, but /etc/koha had already existed on my VM |
21:50 | thd | gmcharlt: However, I think that if you look at the line before you ill find that he first error is still the same about ./etc/koha/README.txt |
21:51 | atz: are you selling sleep? :0 | |
21:51 | gmcharlt | thd: could be, but logs are now gone -- hence I'm starting from scratch and will be logging it properly this time |
21:52 | atz | thd: yeah, but dreams cost extra. |
21:52 | thd | gmcharlt: my logs are perfectly complete for every step so if I did anything silly screenlog recorded it |
21:53 | gmcharlt | tbd: yep, but I'll be needing to revert to a VM snapshot repeatedly as a I (hopefully) find the fixes for Makefile.PL and/or checkinstall |
21:54 | atz | this is a textbook case for VMs |
21:54 | thd | gmcharlt what VM application have you been using? |
21:54 | gmcharlt | Mac Parallels |
21:55 | thd | I gues that does not work on non-macs |
21:56 | atz | thd: actually, VMware Converter claims to be able to import parallels images |
21:56 | to be clear, parallels claims to be able to import VMware images, but failed in my experience | |
21:56 | haven't yet tested the former case | |
21:58 | chris | use the xen :) |
21:58 | atz | or solaris virtualization, supposedly the performance king of the group (on sparc, of course) |
21:59 | chris: i'd like to get more into xen | |
21:59 | thd | I need a machine that can run a virtual machine without consuming all available resources |
21:59 | atz | thd: are you running VMs "headless"? |
22:00 | thd | atz: well I am not running any at the moment |
22:00 | atz | the video reprocessing of the desktop is by far the greatest CPU burden |
22:00 | chris | atz: its actually pretty easy with debian,there are some neat tools |
22:00 | atz | so if you just run the VM and connect to it via terminal |
22:00 | you get better performance | |
22:01 | thd | atz: I do not have enough RAM or CPU for my system without running any VM |
22:01 | atz: I also run out of swap space on many nights while running cron jobs | |
22:01 | atz | thd: ah, yeah, not much to do in that case... |
22:02 | thd | atz: I need to find some money so I can by more sleep and more hardware |
22:03 | atz: which is difficult to do when lack of sleep pursuing money keeps leaving me sick for a week | |
22:03 | atz | :( |
22:04 | are you going to code4libcon in Portland? | |
22:05 | thd | However, I refuse to sell out to working on non-free software :) |
22:05 | chris | :-) |
22:06 | thd | atz: no, ask them to hold it in New York City and I will attend ;) |
22:06 | gmcharlt | thd: know anybody at NYU, CCNY, etc. who might be willing to put out a bid to host? |
22:07 | atz | we have some clients there.... |
22:07 | chris | how bout the guggenheim :-) |
22:07 | atz | I think OCLC and Kent St. should team up and host in Columbus. :) |
22:08 | thd | gmcharlt: I know quite a few people at NYU but not ones who want to bother with organising a conference |
22:10 | gmcharlt: ther is one possibilty at CCNY who might be willing to do the work if I can find her contact information. | |
22:10 | s/ther/there/ | |
00:24 | gmcharlt | thd: I've made progress on the checkinstall issue |
00:24 | thd: was able to do a checkinstall, then install the resulting .deb | |
00:25 | thd: after modifying checkinstall to only list regular files (as opposed to also the directories) from /etc in the package's conffile | |
01:05 | thd | gmcharlt: is that merely a command option? |
01:05 | gmcharlt | no, I had to patch checkinstall itself |
01:05 | thd | gmcharlt: that is the same issue that the Koha installer had been having with globbing |
01:06 | chris | hi rachel |
01:06 | thd | gmcharlt: how do I obtain your patched version of checkinstall? |
01:07 | hello rachel | |
01:07 | gmcharlt | thd: I can email you a patch |
01:07 | thd | gmcharlt: horray, email away |
01:13 | gmcharlt | thd: email sent |
01:15 | thd | gmcharlt: which address did you send the message? I have many :) |
01:15 | gmcharlt | the kohaxxx one -- same one you emailed me from last |
01:17 | thd | odd, I have no new messages there |
01:18 | gmcharlt: can you confirm that you typed koha AT agogme.com correctly? | |
01:18 | gmcharlt | thd: I can confirm I copied and paste it correctly :) |
01:19 | thd: I can try sending to another address if you wish | |
01:21 | thd | gmcharlt: I have it now at least in my forwarded unified mail reading account |
01:24 | gmcharlt: reading your message, is dpkg is happy to parse directories everywhere else but not for configfiles? | |
01:26 | gmcharlt | thd: as far as I can tell from the dpkg format, the non-config files are basically in an ar archive, so there isn't a manifest as such -- it's only conffiles where there's a separate manifest that dpkg checks (as part of implementing the Debian policy about not scribbling over admin changes to config files during a package upgrade) |
08:21 | paul | chris : a small patch to validate in your mailbox |
08:21 | (hello) | |
08:22 | chris | hey paul |
08:22 | ill take a look now |
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