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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:21 | fbcit-1 | g'morning koha |
| 12:21 | lloyd_ | hola |
| 12:30 | fbcit-1 | atz: C4::Debug ++ |
| 13:47 | kados | hehe |
| 13:47 | it's the damned material types | |
| 13:48 | ie, we either tie ourselves to MARC21 and UNIMARC-specific material types ... | |
| 13:48 | or everyone gets to make their own up :-) | |
| 13:48 | owen | I don't really even understand what the issue is :) |
| 13:48 | kados | hehe |
| 13:48 | well, foxnorth could probably help out with this tone | |
| 13:49 | foxnorth: do you read the leader for determining the material type in biblios? | |
| 13:49 | foxnorth | yeah...that's correct isn't it?? |
| 13:49 | kados | no, it's right |
| 13:49 | for MARC21 | |
| 13:49 | foxnorth | i've missed the discussion on oss4lib... |
| 13:49 | ah gotcha | |
| 13:50 | kados | so the definition of BOOK is something like substr $leader, 6,2 = 'am' ? |
| 13:50 | foxnorth | right |
| 13:50 | kados | that right? |
| 13:50 | yea, so basically, someone could whip up a few simple rules for MARC21 and equiv rules for UNIMARC and handle at least books and journals properly for COinS | |
| 13:51 | foxnorth | and how does unimarc handle mat types? |
| 13:51 | kados | I dunno :-) |
| 13:51 | hdl | In 200$b |
| 13:52 | kados | hdl: is that an authorized value list for UNIMARC? |
| 13:52 | hdl | But should also be in 100$a which is a coded field |
| 13:52 | paul | kados: yep. |
| 13:52 | (hello all) | |
| 13:52 | kados | paul: hi! :- |
| 13:52 | ) | |
| 13:52 | fbcit-1 | hi paul |
| 13:52 | hi kados | |
| 13:52 | foxnorth | hdl, so that material type designation is in both 200$b and 100$a? |
| 13:52 | kados | paul: what' the value for 'BOOK' and the value for 'Article'? |
| 13:53 | hdl | We use 200$b in Koha |
| 13:53 | foxnorth | ah |
| 13:54 | paul | 200$b is an authorized value, but only for convenience for us in Koha. |
| 13:54 | otherwise, it's a free content field | |
| 13:54 | foxnorth | ah i see |
| 13:54 | thanks | |
| 13:54 | kados | paul: so how can we determine if something is a 'book' ? |
| 13:54 | in unimarc | |
| 13:54 | paul | 100$a I think |
| 13:55 | hdl | sorry |
| 13:55 | leader is to be used. | |
| 13:55 | kados | paul: what valie? |
| 13:55 | value I mean | |
| 13:55 | hdl | http://www.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/uni.htm |
| 13:55 | paul | hdl is right : not 100 but leader |
| 13:55 | hdl | a = language materials, printed |
| 13:56 | kados | ahh, so it's the same? |
| 13:56 | hdl | m = monographic bibliographic item complete in one physical part or intended to be completed in a finite number of parts. |
| 13:56 | kados | my $fmt = substr $record->leader(), 6,2; |
| 13:56 | = am | |
| 13:56 | hdl | For position 6 and 7 |
| 13:56 | kados | great, that's easy then |
| 13:56 | OK, so if anyone asks, we only imiplement COinS for books, and it only shows up for books too! :-) | |
| 13:58 | paul | (on phone) |
| 14:52 | Brooke | howdy |
| 16:28 | lloyd_ | I don't suppose anyone has a Koha Icon do they? |
| 16:34 | gmcharlt | lloyd_: what sort of icon -- something that can't be copied from koha.org or Koha itself? |
| 16:37 | lloyd_ | I've made a custom version of firefox, with splash screen all the correct security settings, no menus, no toolbars and portable. I call it kohafox, I just want an icon for it really :) |
| 16:38 | atz | i don't think there is a current one |
| 16:38 | other than the "Koha" text | |
| 16:39 | there used to be an odd purple blob | |
| 16:39 | but you wouldn't want that :) | |
| 16:39 | lloyd_ | I quite like the favicon, but i'd have to recreate it for 48x48 |
| 16:40 | owen | lloyd_: I might have a file for that |
| 16:40 | I think I was the one that made the little 'k' favicon... | |
| 16:42 | lloyd_ | If anyone else is intereted in this package i'll replace the splash screen for something generic and send to contribs |
| 16:44 | owen | I'm sure there would be interest |
| 16:46 | lloyd_ | Did you see those additions to the bug? |
| 16:47 | owen | Yes, thanks |
| 16:48 | lloyd_, something like this? http://zivotdesign.com/downloa[…]ha-icon-48x48.png | |
| 16:48 | atz | looks nice |
| 16:48 | lloyd_ | Yeah perfect! |
| 16:48 | atz | owen: copied you on the toolbar shelves patch last night |
| 16:49 | owen | lloyd_: I can send you an eps file of the current koha logo if that would be useful to you |
| 16:49 | Yeah, thanks atz, it seems to be working perfectly | |
| 16:49 | atz | great! |
| 16:49 | lloyd_ | sure, sounds great |
| 16:49 | cheers for that | |
| 17:00 | right off home, laters | |
| 20:02 | CGI236 | Hi Rosalie |
| 20:02 | Rosa | Hi |
| 20:02 | CGI236 | I'm joining as CGI236 |
| 20:02 | It's Deb | |
| 20:02 | How are you? | |
| 20:02 | chris | hi Rosalie and Deb :) |
| 20:03 | CGI236 | hi chris |
| 20:03 | paul_koha | hi rosalie, chris & Deb. |
| 20:03 | Rosa | Ah, all is explained! I'm fine, on a warm and cloudy summer morning. How's it with you? |
| 20:03 | paul | (/me not here, working on some private affairs ;-) ) |
| 20:03 | chris | hi paul you're up late |
| 20:03 | ahh :) | |
| 20:03 | CGI236 | It's -14 degrees here. |
| 20:03 | paul | 9PM here |
| 20:03 | Rosa | Celsius? |
| 20:04 | CGI236 | Are we all here to discuss the Koha User's group? |
| 20:04 | Rosa | Fahrenheit is even worse |
| 20:04 | CGI236 | No fahrenheit. |
| 20:04 | Rosa | Ouch |
| 20:04 | chris | yikes thats cold |
| 20:04 | CGI236 | Is that Paul Poulain? |
| 20:04 | Rosa | No to you question Deb. Most of them are developers |
| 20:05 | Chris might remind me how to set up a private channel? | |
| 20:05 | paul | CGI236: yep, it's Paul poulain |
| 20:05 | CGI236 | That's what I thought. I'll just start 'talking' ok? |
| 20:05 | Paul--you're my idol! | |
| 20:05 | paul | (my wife is reading, pls don't continue :-D ) |
| 20:06 | chris | you just type /join #channelname .. but deb want be able to join that using the web based chat |
| 20:06 | Rosa | Do the rest of you want us to clutter up your space, or would you rather we went elsewhere? |
| 20:06 | chris | here is fine with me :) |
| 20:06 | CGI236 | Rosa--I'm working on the agenda |
| 20:06 | What I could use help with is FaceBook. Do you know it? | |
| 20:07 | And writing copy--just to bounce ideas off of a few of you. | |
| 20:07 | atz | CGI236: where are you at? I'm heading to Minneapolis this weekend... supposedly -30 F last night. |
| 20:07 | CGI236 | I'm in Minneapolis. Where are you atz? |
| 20:07 | atz | columbus now.... gf in in richfield |
| 20:07 | Rosa | I know of Facebook, but I've only looked at it a couple of times |
| 20:08 | CGI236 | Ok, I'll keep working on FaceBook. How do you feel about being a sounding board? |
| 20:08 | Rosa | Fine |
| 20:08 | CGI236 | And also helping come up with a strategy for creating a presentation for |
| 20:08 | a Koha Installfest? | |
| 20:09 | I don't anticipate that you would be coming to PLA, but I'd like to accomodate | |
| 20:09 | owen | Deb, type "/nick Deb" and you can be yourself instead of CGI236 |
| 20:09 | CGI236 | two of the requests for KUDOS. And ok Owen I will. |
| 20:10 | "/nick Deb" | |
| 20:10 | Rosa | without the " |
| 20:10 | That's better! | |
| 20:10 | Deb | sorry been a while since I've used IRC |
| 20:11 | Just a sec let me find the other item. | |
| 20:11 | Rosa | You're working on a presentation for a Koha installfest? |
| 20:12 | Deb | Yes. Someone from the KUDOS group is requesting it. |
| 20:12 | Give me a sec. Amy De Groff from Howard County will be joining us. I need to send her the url for the irc. back in a sec... | |
| 20:15 | Data migration workshop | |
| 20:15 | I will need to find people who can do this in Minneapolis during PLA. | |
| 20:15 | Do you know of anyone? | |
| 20:16 | CGI507 | hello - Amy De Groff here |
| 20:16 | Rosa | Hello Amy. I'm Rosalie from New Zealand |
| 20:16 | Horowhenua Library rust | |
| 20:16 | Deb | Hi Amy. type in "/nick Amy" without the quotes and you can be Amy |
| 20:17 | Amy | super -- okay how can I help you with user group |
| 20:17 | Deb | Amy, we're discussing PLA and the two requests I've gotten for programs |
| 20:17 | One is installfest for Koha, the other is Migration workshop. | |
| 20:17 | Amy are you coming to PLA? | |
| 20:18 | Amy | yes. |
| 20:18 | Deb | Can you do either one of these programs? |
| 20:18 | Amy | in theory, we will have migrated data by then -- so I could do the migration one (with back up from technical staff - LibLime? or mine?) |
| 20:18 | install fest not my thing / I would defer to others | |
| 20:18 | by THIS pla --right ( in 8 weeks) | |
| 20:19 | Deb | Yes, I can ask LibLime if they could have someone help us. I will first ask the KUDOS group if there's anyone who can take this on as well. |
| 20:19 | Yes-PLA in 8 weeks. | |
| 20:20 | Rosa | I'm good at dumb questions. If you want someone to spot the black spots for complete dummies, I can help with that |
| 20:20 | Deb | What I will do if it's ok with you and Rosalie is 1. Create an Agenda and send to Amy, Rosalie, and John Brice, who's also helping to organzie this event |
| 20:20 | Then we can hash out details. | |
| 20:21 | What would help me is if someone would be willing to help read and write the program--more eyeballs the better. | |
| 20:21 | Amy | yes |
| 20:21 | can do | |
| 20:21 | atz | For the migration workshop, can you characterize the platforms being migrated *from*? Mostly III or Sirsi? |
| 20:22 | Deb | Since Amy, Rosalie, and John are seasoned Koha users all 3 of you can help build the programs. |
| 20:22 | Can I ask--who is atz? | |
| 20:22 | atz | Hi, I'm Joe Atzberger. |
| 20:22 | LibLime system admin. | |
| 20:22 | Deb | ATZ, great question and good point--YES! |
| 20:23 | Joe, are you coming to PLA? | |
| 20:23 | atz | Not that I know of... yet. |
| 20:23 | Deb | This is all in the preplanning stages at the moment. |
| 20:24 | atz | I sometimes seem last to know these kind of plans though.... |
| 20:24 | Deb | What I can commit to is sending all of those interested my ideas thus far and we can hash them out via email. |
| 20:24 | atz | I will be at code4lib in Portland next month though. |
| 20:24 | Deb | Will that work? |
| 20:24 | Rosa | Yes, it will for me |
| 20:24 | Amy | Yes, Deb. super. I can represent HCL on a data workshop - and am happy to review text / agenda / ideas. |
| 20:25 | Deb | atz would you like to be included? I include Josh Ferraro, Tina Burger, and Debra Denault now, adding you is no problem. |
| 20:25 | gmcharlt | Deb: could you add me as well (Galen Charlton) |
| 20:26 | Deb | Oh for crying out loud--does liblime have it's own listserv for all the employees?:-)) |
| 20:26 | Of course Galen--be happy to. | |
| 20:26 | atz | Galen is more of an expert on data migration than I am. |
| 20:26 | gmcharlt | Deb: thanks! |
| 20:27 | Deb | atz I'll still include you. I will send emails to all of you. Please add all your 2 cents worth. |
| 20:27 | I will get out the preliminary agenda with my thoughts by end of day Monday, January 28th. Will that work for all of you? | |
| 20:27 | Rosa | Yes, sounds good |
| 20:28 | Amy | yes. plan is to do this at Koha users group meeting? Or is this an agenda item at PLA |
| 20:28 | Deb | To clarify Amy, the Koha Users Group aka KUDOS will be held at PLA, but is not part of the PLA program. |
| 20:28 | The same as we had it at ALAMW08. | |
| 20:29 | Amy | ah got it. I'll be there and will do what i can prior |
| 20:29 | Deb | Josh indicated there were a few libraries that wanted a KUDOS meeting at PLA. |
| 20:29 | Since it's in Minneapolis I said I would work on planning and organizing it again. | |
| 20:30 | Amy not to worry. I'm a bit of a task master for myself. I'll work to not let any detail drop. | |
| 20:31 | atz I would love to go to code4lib, but I don't know enough programming YET. | |
| 20:31 | Amy and Rosa, I think we have a gameplan. | |
| 20:31 | Any other thoughts comments? | |
| 20:32 | Amy | nope all good |
| 20:32 | Deb | Sorry if I seem short. I don't want to take too much time from the developers on the IRC. |
| 20:32 | Amy | got it -- see you later |
| 20:32 | Deb | Rosa? |
| 20:33 | Rosa | We'll carry on on Monday, then? Bye |
| 20:33 | Deb | Bye. Thanks for letting us have our chat. |
| 20:33 | atz | that was more productive than most of the chat we have on normally |
| 20:38 | chris | heh |
| 20:39 | fbcit-1 | and I hate dialup... |
| 21:21 | kados | was that howard county? |
| 21:21 | chris | was who? |
| 21:22 | kados | Deb and Rosa? |
| 21:22 | chris | naw |
| 21:22 | kados | and Amy |
| 21:22 | chris | deb is deb bergeron |
| 21:22 | kados | ahh |
| 21:22 | chris | talking about Kudos, and picking Rosalies brains |
| 23:20 | Deb | on Koha 2.2.9 how do you migrate a patron database into Koha? |
| 23:27 | CGI846 | is anyone on this channel? |
| 23:38 | atz | sure |
| 23:38 | oh.... too late |
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