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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:06 | fbcit-1 | g'morning koha |
| 12:13 | lloyd_ | mornin :) |
| 12:16 | Mordazy | Hello everyone |
| 13:36 | owen | hdl, can you give me more details? |
| 13:37 | hdl | I sent a patch this morning. |
| 13:37 | owen | Okay, I'll just wait for it |
| 13:37 | hdl | I added a field in z3950servers table. |
| 13:37 | name encoding | |
| 13:37 | type : text | |
| 13:37 | and it is used in order to make good encoding translations. | |
| 14:20 | lloyd_ | guys I touched on this breifly with chris. If I stage an import and the isbn/record already exists will it overwrite it? |
| 14:22 | owen | Hi lloyd_ , I don't know about that, but I saw your bug report about the search buttons. I've committed a bunch of fixes for those, but they haven't been submitted yet |
| 14:22 | I appreciate all the work you put into the bug report, that helps a lot | |
| 14:23 | kados | lloyd_: yes, it does an overlay on the existing record |
| 14:23 | g'morning all :-) | |
| 14:23 | owen | Hi kados |
| 14:26 | lloyd_ | kados - i presume it only does that if i check select the "Look for existing records in catalogue" option? |
| 14:27 | kados | lloyd_: yes |
| 14:27 | lloyd_ | fantastic |
| 14:28 | kados | lloyd_: note that it doesn't do that until the records have been imported |
| 14:28 | ie, they don't overlay in the staging area | |
| 14:28 | and you can go into the staging area and verify the mapping | |
| 14:28 | lloyd_ | oh |
| 14:28 | kados | and if you're not happy with it, you can change the algorithm |
| 14:28 | when you're happy with the mapping, you click 'complete import' and that's when the actual overlay happens | |
| 14:28 | fbcit-1 | g'morning kados |
| 14:28 | kados | hiya fbcit-1 ! |
| 14:29 | lloyd_ | yeah I won't be actually completeing the imports |
| 14:29 | hdl | hi all |
| 14:29 | fbcit-1 | hi hdl |
| 14:29 | lloyd_ | so if our marc supplier sent us all the records and we staged them. Then a week later they sent us an update, which included some changes. We staged that too. |
| 14:30 | going to Cataloguing - will that list the updated one twice? | |
| 14:30 | hdl | kados : about recentacquisitions pages, is there a way to get information and make a basket on it ? |
| 14:30 | lloyd_ | yep.. it does add it twice :/ |
| 14:32 | hdl | biblio.timestamp or creationdate or items.creationdate could be useful but not currently indexed unles I am mistaken |
| 14:33 | kados | lloyd_: what I think you want to do, is stage the records, then import them |
| 14:33 | then, when you get the update, stage the new ones | |
| 14:35 | lloyd_ | but we dont want to import them hehe |
| 14:36 | we're adding every marc record for dewey 610-620 | |
| 14:36 | but likelyhood is that only 10% of those will actually be used | |
| 14:36 | we're just adding them so the marc record is there ready for when someone needs to add it | |
| 14:41 | see what I mean? | |
| 15:28 | owen | lloyd_: Regarding Bug 1795, it sounds like your index isn't updating after you delete a biblio |
| 15:33 | lloyd_ | Should it do that automaticlly? |
| 15:34 | owen | It can, but it depends on your system setup...and that's assuming you've got zebra running |
| 15:35 | lloyd_ | system was setup by liblime. zebra is running. |
| 15:36 | owen | I'm afraid I can't help you with the configuration, because it's not my area of expertise. kados might be able to help |
| 15:38 | lloyd_ | ahh np |
| 15:42 | fbcit-1 | does the koha-devel list allow attachements through? |
| 15:44 | owen | fbcit-1, it should, although it might be better to host the file somewhere and just include a link |
| 15:46 | gmcharlt | fbcit-1: I think it's an excellant idea -- care to start it? :) |
| 15:47 | lloyd_ | haha, walked in to that one |
| 15:50 | hdl | owen : when tryong to select all results on a page via SelectAll, it fails, can you confirm ? |
| 15:50 | owen | opac or staff client? |
| 15:51 | hdl | OPAC |
| 15:51 | (no mass result selection available on staff client) | |
| 15:52 | document.bookbag_form.select_all has no properties | |
| 15:52 | owen | hdl, I've submitted a patch for that, but it doesn't seem to have gotten through yet |
| 15:52 | hdl | in fact, bookbag_form is not defined. |
| 16:02 | lloyd_ | owen : did you fix Home Administration Cities -> Search Cities? |
| 16:02 | it has "OK" instead of "Submit" | |
| 16:02 | hdl | gmcharlt: around ? |
| 16:02 | lloyd_ | and it doesnt have class="submit" either |
| 16:02 | gmcharlt | hdl: hi |
| 16:02 | hdl | hi |
| 16:03 | I just wanted to do some work on AuthoritiesMarc | |
| 16:03 | But I wanted to know if you were through with it | |
| 16:04 | gmcharlt | hdl: I have plans, but will not really starting work until Friday at earliest |
| 16:04 | so go ahead | |
| 16:04 | owen | lloyd_: Yes. |
| 16:04 | hdl | ok |
| 16:04 | gmcharlt | hdl: what are you working on? |
| 16:05 | hdl | I want to move authid to a harmless subfield. |
| 16:05 | gmcharlt | authid in bib records? |
| 16:05 | or authid in authority records? | |
| 16:05 | hdl | no. |
| 16:05 | in authority records. | |
| 16:05 | lloyd_ | tops :) |
| 16:06 | hdl | Move it to 090 |
| 16:06 | or rather user selected subfield | |
| 16:06 | gmcharlt | using MARC framework, I assume? |
| 16:06 | fbcit-1 | gmcharlt: just finished a 3 page document describing the state of Koha3 on Win32 |
| 16:06 | hdl | Yes. |
| 16:07 | What were your plans ? | |
| 16:07 | gmcharlt | hdl: basically, a lot of stuff, focusing primary on MARC21 authorities |
| 16:07 | including matching bib headings to authorities on full heading, not just $a | |
| 16:07 | implementing support for cross references in headings scans | |
| 16:08 | batch job to link bibs and authorities | |
| 16:08 | hdl | On this latest point I must work to |
| 16:08 | gmcharlt | finishing separating UNIMARC and MARC21-specific stuff into separate submodules |
| 16:09 | fbcit-1: great | |
| 16:09 | hdl | first point is how koha works now, as far as I know. |
| 16:10 | gmcharlt | hdl: there are issues, at least in MARC21 with that |
| 16:10 | hdl | which ? |
| 16:13 | gmcharlt | hdl: in BiblioAddAuthorities, does not seem to properly find existing authority record if heading has subdivisions |
| 16:14 | hdl | there is a problem because you can have $a New Caledonia fisheries |
| 16:14 | and $a fisheries $x New Caledonia | |
| 16:15 | and unless you parse your records, there is no way to part one from an other. | |
| 16:15 | + there is the problem if you search for fisheries alone. | |
| 16:16 | You must get fisheries alone, and not with anything. | |
| 16:16 | On the other hand, | |
| 16:16 | maybe a search only on headings is not enough. | |
| 16:17 | We should/may do a search also in rejected forms. | |
| 16:17 | gmcharlt | hdl: yep, and provide option to flip head to preferred form |
| 16:17 | flip heading, rather | |
| 16:17 | hdl | Yes. |
| 16:18 | So it is not that easy to solve those things. But I think we can manage on the long term. | |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | long term we absolutely must manage |
| 16:19 | hdl | yes. |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | shorter term, I hope to have many improvements for Koha 3's general release |
| 16:23 | hdl | Do you know when you will have time to do it ? |
| 17:40 | fbcit-1 | gmcharlt:http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]installer_project |
| 17:42 | gmcharlt | fbcit-1: cool |
| 19:06 | chris | morning |
| 19:19 | hdl | hi chris |
| 19:19 | chris | heya hdl |
| 19:20 | how goes the code4lib saga? | |
| 19:20 | hdl | May end up well soon. |
| 19:20 | chris | ohh good |
| 19:21 | hdl | But not sure what will be the end. |
| 19:21 | chris | ahh |
| 20:28 | fbcit-1 | chris: did you get my patch for bug 1790? |
| 20:29 | chris | hmm no, did you send it to patcheskoha.org? |
| 20:29 | fbcit-1 | yep |
| 20:29 | I' | |
| 20:29 | I'll resend, hold on | |
| 20:30 | chris | cool |
| 20:31 | fbcit-1 | chris: its on its way |
| 20:31 | chris | sweet |
| 20:31 | fbcit-1 | let me know in a few if you don't see it. |
| 20:32 | chris | will do |
| 20:32 | got it | |
| 20:41 | fbcit-1 | tnx |
| 21:13 | chris | hmm |
| 21:13 | [PATCH] Bugfix for Bug 1790 - opacthemes system pref doesn't work | |
| 21:13 | fatal: corrupt patch at line 36 | |
| 21:13 | Patch failed at 0001 | |
| 21:18 | fbcit-1 | not sure why... except my tagline got left at the bottom when I forwarded it.... |
| 21:19 | it will be a day or so before I can remake the patch.... I'm home with a *bad* cold for a day or two :-( | |
| 21:30 | chris | ack sorry to hear that |
| 21:30 | fbcit-1 | chris: looks like line 36 in the patch wraps when it should all be one line. |
| 21:30 | chris | yeah i tried to manually edit .. and then the patch wouldnt apply |
| 21:30 | worst comes to worts ill just make the changes by hand :) | |
| 21:30 | fbcit-1 | should read: + warn "Theme $th does not appear to exist" if $DEBUG; |
| 21:31 | there is really only one important line... | |
| 21:31 | remove: if ( -e "$htdocs/$th/$la/modules/$interface-"."tmpl") { | |
| 21:31 | replace with: if ( -e "$htdocs/$th/$la/modules/$tmpl") { | |
| 21:32 | the debug stuff is just fluf | |
| 21:33 | chris | :) |
| 21:33 | ill make that change and push it up | |
| 21:34 | fbcit-1 | k |
| 21:34 | I also reforwarded the patch for kicks | |
| 21:34 | chris | :) |
| 21:35 | ill try one more time | |
| 21:36 | fbcit-1 | forwarding seems to add lines/wrap lines and do other generally ugly things to patches :) |
| 21:36 | chris | no sir .. still grumpy |
| 21:36 | ill do it manually | |
| 21:36 | fbcit-1 | tnx |
| 21:36 | sorry for the trouble | |
| 21:36 | chris | no worries, thanks for the fix |
| 23:05 | qiqo | hi people |
| 23:05 | may i ask for help? | |
| 23:07 | anyone awake? | |
| 23:09 | chris | hi qiqo |
| 23:09 | qiqo | hi chris |
| 23:09 | chris | sorry had internet go down |
| 23:09 | back now | |
| 23:09 | qiqo | was just trying to give 3.0a a shot |
| 23:09 | i have sample 2-2 data here | |
| 23:10 | and I'm reading the instructions | |
| 23:10 | chris | upgrading from 2.2 is hard .. id start with a fresh install of 3.0a |
| 23:10 | qiqo | but couldnt seem to follow it properly or i dont have understand |
| 23:10 | chris | and use the sample data that comes with it |
| 23:11 | qiqo | uhuh.. but eventually, i'll upgrade to 3.0 right? |
| 23:11 | i mean , i have data in here in 2.2 format | |
| 23:11 | chris | yes, its hard to do currently |
| 23:11 | id wait until we improve the process | |
| 23:12 | although the instructions on the wiki do work, its just tricky :) | |
| 23:12 | qiqo | ohh ok |
| 23:13 | but quick question, do i need to perform these steps before or after the installation of 3.0? | |
| 23:13 | chris | the upgrading? |
| 23:13 | you do the perl Makefile.PL, make, make install | |
| 23:14 | pointing it at your 2.2 db | |
| 23:14 | then do the rest of the instructions | |
| 23:14 | qiqo | i mean the things in here: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=22_to_30 |
| 23:14 | will 3.0 work on mysql 5? | |
| 23:14 | will 3.0 work on mysql 4? | |
| 23:15 | chris | yes |
| 23:15 | it will work much better on 5 | |
| 23:15 | but should still work on 4 .. altho you will have encoding problems | |
| 23:15 | 5 is stable, id encourage everyone to use that | |
| 23:16 | qiqo | aright |
| 23:16 | wow.. | |
| 00:35 | fbcit-1 | chris: re bug 1627, your saying that http://koha.foo.org/ and http://koha.foo.org:8080/ cause this symptom? |
| 00:36 | chris | thats right |
| 00:36 | if you look at ur cookies | |
| 00:36 | you will see they store agains hostname only | |
| 00:37 | fbcit-1 | I assume that changing http://koha.foo.org:8080/ to http://staff.koha.foo.org/ should resolve it? |
| 00:37 | chris | *nod* |
| 00:37 | thats why owen couldnt replicate the symptoms | |
| 00:39 | fbcit-1 | tnx! |
| 00:39 | chris | we probably could shift it to an ehancement and get different cookies for opac and staff |
| 00:41 | for poor people who dont have any control over dns, and want to be logged into both at once, with the same browser | |
| 00:41 | atz | if you have different domains (like we do in dev environment) then you'd get separate ones anyway |
| 00:41 | but you're right, we should support the single domain (different port) config | |
| 00:41 | chris | yep, well you get CGISESSID for both |
| 00:42 | if it was OPACSESSID and INTRASESSID say | |
| 00:42 | atz | that's the default for CGI::Session |
| 00:42 | chris | then it wouldnt matter... something for 3.2 :) |
| 00:42 | yep, you can change it | |
| 00:42 | atz | right |
| 00:42 | fbcit-1 | opps. I marked it fixed... |
| 00:42 | atz | how about KOHAINTRANETSESSIONID |
| 00:42 | nice and readable. | |
| 00:43 | chris | yep |
| 00:43 | i dont think there is any character limit | |
| 00:43 | there are some pretty long ones stored in my browser | |
| 00:44 | fbcit-1 | and some pretty unintelligable ones as well |
| 00:44 | chris | heh yep |
| 00:47 | atz | there is a "netscape spec" limit |
| 00:47 | iirc | |
| 00:47 | and a bunch of other random browsers that have their own limits | |
| 00:47 | chris | *nod* |
| 00:47 | might be safe to go smallish | |
| 00:47 | atz | their still pretty big |
| 00:47 | *they're | |
| 00:58 | fbcit-1 | ok, I reopened and marked it as an enhancement |
| 00:58 | chris | cool |
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| 01:39 | fbcit-1 | gmcharlt: u around? |
| 01:48 | chris | heya rosa :) |
| 01:56 | gmcharlt | fbcit-1: I'm around for a couple minutes |
| 02:25 | Rosa | hi Chris |
| 02:38 | chris | nice |
| 02:54 | fbcit-1 | gmcharlt-away: I just reduced the remaining Win32 perl module count to 3 modules... got XML::Dumper and XML::RSS installed on Win32... |
| 02:55 | kados | fbcit-1++ |
| 02:58 | fbcit-1 | kados: Regarding MARC::File::XML |
| 02:58 | rather MARC::XML | |
| 02:59 | make test blows up | |
| 02:59 | kados | yea, I know |
| 02:59 | I've tried to explain that to the maintainer | |
| 02:59 | fbcit-1 | # Error: Can't locate object method "new" via package "XML::LibXML::SAX" at C:/strawberry-perl/perl/site/lib/XML/SAX/ParserFactory.pm line 43. |
| 02:59 | kados | but he doesn't seem to believe me :-) |
| 02:59 | fbcit-1 | does it matter? |
| 03:00 | will force work? | |
| 03:00 | kados | well, it should be fixed |
| 03:00 | the average koha user doesn't have the chops to know how to force install a perl module | |
| 03:00 | fbcit-1 | if it does not matter, then I am down to only 2 perl modules |
| 03:00 | kados | shocking as that may be :-) |
| 03:00 | I don't think it matters | |
| 03:00 | awesome | |
| 03:01 | fbcit-1 | I'll worry about the "average" user once I get there... :-) |
| 03:01 | kados | hehe |
| 03:01 | fbcit-1 | so... can I force it and be OK? |
| 03:01 | kados | yep |
| 03:01 | fbcit-1 | brb |
| 03:01 | down to 2... | |
| 03:02 | kados | hehe |
| 03:03 | fbcit-1 | kados: did you take a look at my wiki page on the Win32 project? |
| 03:03 | kados | fbcit-1: briefly, it's on my list to look more carefully asap |
| 03:03 | fbcit-1 | err... type |
| 03:07 | gmcharlt-away | fbcit-1++ |
| 03:11 | fbcit-1 | gmcharlt: DBD::mysql really blows chunks... :-( |
| 03:13 | atz | you have a DBD you like better? |
| 03:13 | fbcit-1 | atz: I mean when trying to build it on Win32... :) |
| 03:14 | actually DBD::Pg | |
| 03:14 | ;-) | |
| 03:18 | gmcharlt | fbcit-1: funny that I haven't seen much mention of DBD::mysql in conjunction with Strawberry |
| 03:18 | does nobody use mysql on Win32? | |
| 03:19 | chris | they are all using access :-) |
| 03:19 | fbcit-1 | gmcharlt: from the DBD::mysql README it looks like I'll have to compile the mysql client to get the correct libs for DBD::mysql |
| 03:20 | chris: access-- | |
| 03:21 | DBD::mysql has apparently been compiled for ActivePerl |
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