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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:33 | kados | g'morning #koha |
| 13:46 | paul_ | hello kados |
| 13:47 | paul | do you have some minuts for a git question ? |
| 13:50 | kados | hey paul |
| 13:50 | paul: sup? | |
| 13:51 | paul | sup? ??? |
| 13:52 | kados | what's up? => sup? :-) |
| 13:52 | it's rapper speak :-) | |
| 13:54 | yea, setup can be tough | |
| 13:54 | if you are around in a few hours chris may be able to assist | |
| 13:54 | he's our resident git expert :-) | |
| 13:55 | paul: got a quick sec for a question? | |
| 13:55 | paul: two actually :-) | |
| 13:55 | paul | yep, throw your questions |
| 13:56 | kados | 1. when you edit a patron, does the drop-down for branch have encoding correct? |
| 13:56 | for me it's double-encoded | |
| 13:57 | (I have the Instiut protestant de Theologie | |
| 13:57 | and it is mangled | |
| 13:57 | ) | |
| 13:57 | 2. what is authorities 'report tag'? | |
| 13:58 | paul | question 2 first : |
| 13:58 | (all examples for unimarc) | |
| 13:59 | here is your authority entry : | |
| 13:59 | 200$aFerarro$bJoshua$d1975-... | |
| 13:59 | 400$akados | |
| 13:59 | 450$aLibLime | |
| 13:59 | (kados = rejected term) | |
| 14:00 | kados | :) |
| 14:00 | paul | (LibLime = see also. and it's not in 450, but in 500) |
| 14:00 | kados | *nod* |
| 14:00 | paul | let's say joshua write a book as author. |
| 14:00 | in biblio, you'll have : | |
| 14:01 | 700$9your_authority_number_that_is_in_001_and_i_forget_to_add$aFerraro$bJoshua$d1975 | |
| 14:01 | (the authority number : I forgot to add a 001 to the authority) | |
| 14:01 | kados | *nod* |
| 14:01 | paul | the tag_to_report says : from the authority, you report the 200 field from the authority into the 7xx field of the biblio when the authority is choosen. |
| 14:02 | in unimarc, PN=200,Congres=210,Common name=250, ... | |
| 14:03 | kados | what do you mean by 'report'? |
| 14:03 | paul | (maybe it's a frenchism ;-) ) it's the authority tag you copy in the biblio |
| 14:03 | kados | ahh, ok |
| 14:04 | what if I want to put all the tags in? | |
| 14:04 | or more than one? | |
| 14:04 | paul | you can't. |
| 14:04 | but what kind of copy could you want to do ? | |
| 14:04 | kados | let's s/report/copy/ |
| 14:05 | paul | (in unimarc, you copy only 1) |
| 14:05 | kados | OK, now I understand |
| 14:05 | thanks! | |
| 14:05 | I will update the nomenclature to be clear | |
| 14:05 | so i don't have to ask again! :-) | |
| 14:05 | paul | question 1 : works fine for me |
| 14:05 | but... i need to update my repo. | |
| 14:05 | testing with an uptodate repo... | |
| 14:05 | kados | ok |
| 14:06 | paul | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]1&category_type=A |
| 14:06 | seems OK | |
| 14:06 | kados | I have noticed that all CGI::popup_menu have bad encoding |
| 14:06 | what version of CGI are you running? | |
| 14:07 | paul | CGI::popup_menu ??? |
| 14:07 | kados | and CGI::scrolling_list |
| 14:07 | scrolling_list is the one I meant | |
| 14:08 | paul | CGI = 3.29 |
| 14:08 | kados | hmmm, I have 3.15 |
| 14:08 | I will test upgradeing | |
| 14:09 | still double-encoded :( | |
| 14:11 | paul: do you have any hacked modules to fudge with the utf8 flag? | |
| 14:11 | paul | nope |
| 14:11 | gmcharlt | kados: I'll play around with the utf8 module -- had noticed this issue before and can come up with a patch quickly |
| 14:11 | kados | gmcharlt: sweet, thanks |
| 14:12 | paul | gmcharlt: do you have an idea why I don't have the problem ? |
| 14:12 | (I have only 1 small remaining problem : the encoding of the branch login (top right) that is mungled as well | |
| 14:30 | kados | mornin atz |
| 14:30 | atz | greets |
| 14:31 | still lots of _away'ers | |
| 14:32 | kados | *nod* |
| 14:32 | atz: how was the holiday? | |
| 14:33 | atz | it was nice. a little bit of everything... |
| 14:34 | how 'bout you? | |
| 14:34 | kados | not bad ... |
| 14:34 | nice and quiet | |
| 14:34 | lends itself well to getting stuff done ... holidays are my favorite time to work :-) | |
| 14:37 | atz: stick around in Ohio? or did you travel? | |
| 14:37 | atz | lol holiday/work |
| 14:38 | yeah, my brother and sister came home from brooklyn and florida, respectively | |
| 14:38 | we went up to cleveland area for xmas day | |
| 14:38 | kados | cool |
| 14:39 | wow, brooklyn ... | |
| 14:41 | atz | yeah, he's been there about 16 months... |
| 14:44 | paul | hello atz |
| 14:44 | atz | hi paul |
| 14:45 | paul | at the end of this week, we will go to my sister home, because of 2 events : the beginning of 2008, and the beginning of my 40's (will occur jan 9th) |
| 14:46 | atz | nearby? |
| 14:46 | paul | 1 hour travelling (in "Tarascon") |
| 14:46 | kados | paul: also on the coast of south France? |
| 14:46 | paul | (a famous village due to "Tartarin de Tarascon", a famous book heroes here in france) |
| 14:47 | kados : almost. | |
| 14:48 | I have to leave for an hour or so. will brb | |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt | hi atz |
| 14:55 | atz | greets gmcharlt |
| 15:57 | fbcit | morning koha |
| 15:59 | kados: how do you run your hardware config on koha servers? | |
| 15:59 | specifically HDD config | |
| 15:59 | kados | well, it depends |
| 15:59 | fbcit | do you keep the db on a separate drive/array from the system/app stuff |
| 15:59 | kados | yea, you can do that |
| 15:59 | it's a question of how much money you have :-) | |
| 16:00 | fbcit | or spare hardware :-) |
| 16:00 | kados | ideal scenerio would be to have a disk array for system/app, one for mysql, and one for zebra |
| 16:00 | fbcit | ahh |
| 16:00 | kados | and a second server that does real-time replication for all three |
| 16:00 | if you have a big library, you'd want to split up the services into independent hardware platforms | |
| 16:00 | fbcit | I also try to run a separate drive for swap as well |
| 16:01 | kados | so you might have a web server or two that handle the OPAC, and a SAN for the database, etc. |
| 16:01 | fbcit | we on the small side with maybe 25k volumes |
| 16:02 | kados | at that size you could probably run happliy on a soekris box with a 256MB flash drive ;-) |
| 16:02 | fbcit | hehe |
| 16:03 | performance will not be as much of an issue here as data protection | |
| 16:03 | kados | in that case I'd highly recommend some form of RAID |
| 16:03 | minimally mirroring of the database | |
| 16:04 | and probably mysql real-time replication to another 'Slave' server | |
| 16:04 | which is easy to setup | |
| 16:04 | unless you're running a completely vanilla system, you'll also want to have something in place to do off-server backups of your installation | |
| 16:05 | config files, etc. | |
| 16:05 | fbcit | DDS |
| 16:05 | kados | *cough* |
| 16:05 | waste of time IMO | |
| 16:05 | just set up rsync | |
| 16:05 | fbcit | SAN |
| 16:06 | kados | rsync is your best friend for backups :-) |
| 16:06 | fbcit | I currently have an rsync server which handles backups of all other *nix systems on the network |
| 16:06 | and some Win32 stuff | |
| 16:07 | adding the db to that should be a simple matter | |
| 16:07 | tnx that gives me something to chew on | |
| 16:08 | kados | you'll want to use mysqldump for the db |
| 16:08 | for periodic backups | |
| 16:08 | and real-time backups with mysql replication | |
| 16:09 | hehe | |
| 16:09 | here's an ancient one | |
| 16:09 | http://www.kohadocs.org/Backup[…]nd_Restoring.html | |
| 16:09 | 2004-12-15 :-) | |
| 16:09 | fbcit | so 'Slave' (above) == 'hot standby' ? |
| 16:09 | kados | yes |
| 16:09 | if configured as such | |
| 16:09 | but for that you need a monitor | |
| 16:09 | fbcit | at lease warm standby |
| 16:09 | kados | yea |
| 16:09 | fbcit | least also |
| 16:18 | arsenic | hello koha! |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | hi arsenic |
| 16:20 | paul: to answer your question from a while back, it looks like the version of DBD::mysql matters -- what version are you using? | |
| 16:20 | kados | hey arsenic |
| 16:21 | fbcit | hi arsenic |
| 16:24 | paul | i'm back |
| 16:24 | arsenic | hi paul! |
| 16:25 | paul | gmcharlt: DBD::mysql => 4.005 |
| 16:25 | ??? the problem seems to have been solved. It works fine now | |
| 16:25 | mmm... no | |
| 16:26 | the 1st screen after login is correct, but thereafter, branchname is mungled | |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | paul: so far, it looks like you need at least version 4.005 of DBD::mysql (which we're in the process of testing on a LL server, as Debian Etch ships with only version 3.008) |
| 16:28 | also, C4::Context does not appear to be enabling DBD::mysql's utf8 flag correctly | |
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| 22:53 | chris | hey is pate :) ltns |
| 22:53 | kados | wow |
| 22:53 | pate: hey! | |
| 22:53 | pate | yeah, thought I'd swing by and see what's up |
| 22:54 | kados | pate: what's new with you? |
| 22:54 | pate | not too much |
| 22:54 | working on genealogy stuff these days | |
| 22:54 | kados | cool |
| 22:54 | for familysearch.org? | |
| 22:55 | pate | yup |
| 22:55 | cool. | |
| 22:55 | chris | i hear you are gonna meet up with rach and si? |
| 22:55 | pate | I didn't realize we sent anyone there |
| 22:55 | yeah, I'm looking forward to it | |
| 22:56 | (actually, I'm hoping to talk them into meeting up with some folks here) | |
| 22:56 | chris | sweet |
| 22:56 | :-) | |
| 22:56 | pate | we've got a lot of data in our collection, and there are many conversations about indexing, cataloging, etc. |
| 22:57 | chris | *nod* |
| 22:58 | pate | so, what's up in koha land? |
| 22:58 | chris | lots of bugfixing :) |
| 22:58 | in the push to get 3.0 out | |
| 22:58 | pate | oh, sweet! |
| 22:58 | I didn't realize you guys were making a push these days | |
| 22:59 | what big changes are going into 3.0? | |
| 22:59 | chris | the major one is a rework of how marc data is handled, and how searching is done |
| 23:00 | then tons of small features too ... independent branches is quite a nice feature too | |
| 23:00 | kados | we have APIs now! :-) |
| 23:00 | SRU/Z39.50 for searching, SIP2, LDAP, plus some native REST stuff for managing biblio data | |
| 23:00 | pate | very cool |
| 23:01 | kados | brand new installer |
| 23:01 | and we switched to Git for revision control | |
| 23:01 | pate: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]lopment:git_usage | |
| 23:01 | pate: if you're keen to try it out ... | |
| 23:02 | pate | I might take a look at it ... I'm not really up to snuff in Perl anymore though |
| 23:03 | git seems to be gaining momentum | |
| 23:04 | chris | yeah its pretty cool |
| 23:04 | kados | git++ |
| 23:30 | atz | hrm... the "Important links here." default should be changed to be valid HTML (inside tags) |
| 23:31 | kados | atz: agreed |
| 23:34 | atz | actually... it can't really be much, since it falls in between the opening of <ul> and the first <li> |
| 23:36 | kados | it's designed to be a place you can add new <li>s |
| 23:36 | and it just pushes the other ones down | |
| 23:36 | a la search.myacpl.org | |
| 23:37 | atz | right... so we can't just throw text, or <p> or whatever other tags in there |
| 23:37 | kados | *nod* |
| 23:37 | should be <li> | |
| 23:37 | also notice that it's a syspref :-) | |
| 23:37 | so the user can add their own content without having to touch the template | |
| 23:38 | OpacNav syspref | |
| 23:38 | also see OpacMainUserBlock | |
| 23:38 | A user-defined block of HTML in the main content area of the opac main page | |
| 23:38 | which is also a syspref | |
| 23:38 | atz | yep, i noticed that, and then checked the default sql |
| 23:38 | kados | means that those modifs survive an update |
| 23:38 | which is better than having your local changes wiped out when upgrading | |
| 23:39 | atz | that means the pages don't validate by default |
| 23:40 | but w/ valid data, it is a cool customizeability | |
| 23:40 | kados | *nod* |
| 23:40 | I don't think anyone's seriously audited anything in the OPAC for 3.0 yet | |
| 23:40 | I know I haven't | |
| 23:41 | but that's typically a weekend-sort-of-thing | |
| 23:41 | ie, it's not a long process, there's not much to the opac | |
| 23:41 | compared with say, acquisitions :-) | |
| 00:13 | atz | what's up w/ arwen? |
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