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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:52 | owen | paul? |
| 12:52 | dewey | i think paul is 4 times' DADDY |
| 12:52 | paul | hi owen |
| 12:52 | owen | Hi Paul, I'm just now looking over the new member entry template |
| 12:52 | paul | our stupid bot is right... quite unusual... |
| 12:53 | yep. Note that it's probably buggy. I haven't tested it yet. | |
| 12:53 | owen | paul, are you familiar with it, or should I be asking hdl? |
| 12:53 | paul | you should ask hdl. |
| 12:53 | but he's back on monday only | |
| 12:53 | owen | Okay. I'll either figure it out or I'll wait :) |
| 12:54 | paul | owen, a quick question : there are zillions of intranetstylesheet => C4::Context ... |
| 12:54 | (almost one in each script) | |
| 12:54 | they are useless, as Auth.pm loads this pref everytime. | |
| 12:54 | + with actual templates, the intranetstylesheet is no more supported. | |
| 12:55 | <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="themelang" -->/css/staff-global.css" /> | |
| 12:55 | but : | |
| 12:55 | <!-- TMPL_IF name="intranetstylesheet" --> | |
| 12:55 | owen | I think the intranetstylsheet => C4::Context in the script is a relic of an earlier version, before Auth.pm was modified |
| 12:56 | paul | <link rel=<!-- TMPL_VAR name="intranetstylesheet" -->...> |
| 12:56 | <!-- TMPL_ELSE --> | |
| 12:56 | <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="themelang" -->/css/staff-global.css" /> | |
| 12:56 | <!-- /TMPL_IF --> | |
| 12:56 | if there is an intranetstylesheet defined, use it instead of staff-global.css | |
| 12:56 | do you agree ? | |
| 12:57 | owen | Yes: we're still trying to sort out how to handle alternate style sheets. Right now we're working just with staff-global for the sake of simplicity. Ultimately we'll have the intranetstylesheet option as well as options for setting an alternate color stylesheet like the NPL templates in rel_2_2 |
| 12:57 | paul | owen will probably lighten my darkness ;-) |
| 12:58 | owen | intranetstylesheet allowed you to drop in a completely new stylesheet, right? A full URL to an an external stylesheet? |
| 12:58 | The color stylesheet pref allows you to point to a stylsheet that changes color info only. That lets the user set a color scheme while leaving the layout unchanged | |
| 12:59 | paul | ok, but the colorstylesheet is a css isn't it ? |
| 12:59 | owen | Yes |
| 13:16 | paul | owen ? a few minuts for another question ? |
| 13:16 | owen | yes |
| 13:16 | paul | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]rc/circulation.pl |
| 13:17 | (abel/abel) | |
| 13:17 | the check in / transfer /set library /Holds to pull ... | |
| 13:17 | is <div class="yiu-b"> | |
| 13:17 | shouln't it have an id ? | |
| 13:18 | <div class="yui-b" id="toolbar"> or something like that | |
| 13:18 | ? | |
| 13:18 | owen | It can, if we find it's necessary for CSS and/or javascript. |
| 13:18 | It's just a first draft | |
| 13:18 | paul | OK |
| 13:19 | playing with something you don't know well & that is not finished is sometimes a hard job ;-) | |
| 13:19 | (what is unfinished & what is unknown ?) | |
| 13:20 | owen | If you're playing with CSS and feel you need an id or class somewhere, feel free to add it. I want the markup to be as flexible as possible |
| 13:20 | paul | (to change the submenu layout without changing all yui-b) |
| 13:21 | OK, i'll try. | |
| 13:24 | owen : do you think it would be better to have a <div id="toolbar"> in circ-menu.inc, or update circulation.tmpl to write : <div class="yui-b toolbar" > ? | |
| 13:25 | (or <div class="yui-b" id="toolbar">) | |
| 13:27 | owen | Probably better to add the extra div to circ-menu.inc, because, for instance, we sometimes have two includes in the left-hand sidebar. |
| 13:27 | circulation.tmpl loads memebers-menu.inc too, to display patron links if there is a patron loaded | |
| 13:29 | paul | OK |
| 13:29 | mmm... | |
| 13:29 | so we can't use a id="toolbar", but a class="toolbar". | |
| 13:30 | (or a id="toolbar-members" and a id="toolbar-circ". | |
| 13:30 | but I think that would result in too many "toolbar-XXX" and be confusing. | |
| 13:30 | owen | Or a toolbar class plus an id for each if you want circ menu items to be different from patron menu items |
| 13:31 | paul | owen: ++ |
| 13:31 | (although the stylesheet will be very tricky to manipulate ;-) ) | |
| 13:32 | mmm... owen : there is are xxx-menu and some menu-xxx. Is it a bug ? | |
| 13:32 | or a feature ? | |
| 13:32 | dewey | a feature is broken in the script |
| 13:34 | owen | To me, it's a feature :). I changed the naming convention when I started re-writing the templates. I wanted related files to be grouped, like circ-menu.inc and circ-search.inc |
| 13:34 | I'm willing to be convinced that's not any more efficient, however. It's just how I did it. | |
| 13:36 | paul | so, at the end, all menus should be MODULE-menu.inc ? |
| 13:37 | owen | That's the way I planned it. The menu-MODULE.inc files are going to go away, because those menus are going to be broken down into MODULE-menu.inc and MODULE-toolbar.inc |
| 13:38 | MODULE-toolbar.inc will include toolbar-like actions like Add, Edit, Delete. The toolbar inc will be embedded at the top of the main page content | |
| 13:39 | I haven't had a chance to start on the toolbar files yet | |
| 13:42 | kados | hey gang |
| 13:42 | owen: I like the naming convention | |
| 13:48 | paul | hey kados. |
| 13:48 | (the naming convention : you're speaking of our previous discussion or something else ?) | |
| 13:49 | kados | your previous discussion :-) |
| 13:49 | MODULE-menu and MODULE-toolbar | |
| 13:49 | it might also be | |
| 13:49 | PAGE-toolbar | |
| 13:49 | in some cases | |
| 13:50 | owen | Yes |
| 13:51 | paul | page-toolbar,like in : |
| 13:51 | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]s.pl?tab=Intranet | |
| 13:51 | for Admin / acquisition /Authorities/catalogue/... /staff client/ ... others | |
| 13:51 | ? | |
| 13:54 | kados | yep |
| 13:54 | paul | consider it done ;-) |
| 13:55 | owen : will you work on the templates today ? | |
| 13:55 | owen | All day! |
| 13:55 | paul | OK, so I do nothing ;-) |
| 13:55 | owen | Let 'em come |
| 13:55 | kados | owen's been a template trooper lately :-) |
| 13:55 | paul | hired by LibLime ? |
| 13:55 | owen | I'm not afraid of a little conflict |
| 13:56 | kados | hehe |
| 13:56 | owen | No, strictly in the interests of NPL |
| 13:56 | paul | I have other things to do, I can wait... |
| 13:56 | kados | NPL++ |
| 13:56 | owen | ...although my boss wonders sometimes... ;) |
| 13:58 | paul | lol |
| 14:01 | owen | admin/charges.tmpl no longer used? |
| 14:07 | paul | grep -R "charges.tmpl" * shows nothing, so I think you're right |
| 14:13 | slef | paul: pq parles-tu de Koha 3.0 NoZebra? Existe-il déjà? |
| 14:13 | paul | slef : of cours, NoZebra exists & works quite correctly. |
| 14:13 | (although a little bit under-documented) | |
| 14:13 | slef | paul: is it a syspref or what? |
| 14:13 | paul | it's a syspref, yes. 2 in fact ;-) |
| 14:14 | slef | Will you patch README.txt with the details, please? |
| 14:14 | paul | look at misc/migration_tools/rebuil_nozebra.pl script, that should be useful |
| 14:16 | slef | paul: does that get run by the web installer? |
| 14:16 | paul | not yet. |
| 14:16 | slef | it will? |
| 14:17 | paul | in fact, I could answer "yes" to your question... |
| 14:17 | slef | ok... have you 5 mins to explain kohala AG to me? |
| 14:17 | paul | because we just need to add a sql file to load during step3, that set NoZebra=1 and NoZebraIndexes=... |
| 14:18 | yes, of course, what is your question exactly ? | |
| 14:18 | slef | Can me and other UK users appoint people to represent us at the AG? |
| 14:19 | paul | I don't know why you couldn't |
| 14:19 | slef | How do we choose who to appoint? |
| 14:19 | paul | I don't see why you couldn't |
| 14:20 | you can choose randomly ;-) | |
| 14:20 | slef | As in, do we know the votes to be held and do we know people's positions on them? |
| 14:20 | paul | (except that, iirc, there is a limit to how many ppl someone can represent) |
| 14:20 | slef | s/As in/C'est à dire/ |
| 14:20 | paul | We will choose President, Trésorier and Secrétaire |
| 14:21 | the only 3 mandatory positions. | |
| 14:21 | we may have a vice-president as well, but not mandatory. | |
| 14:21 | slef | Can we tell representatives how to vote? (That is what happens in proxy votes in England, IME.) |
| 14:21 | paul | atm, the 4 founders have one position each. |
| 14:21 | of course you can. but to vote you must be a member of the association. | |
| 14:22 | and to be a member of the association, you must have paid your yearly ticket. | |
| 14:22 | slef | ok, how do people join? |
| 14:22 | (I don't think koha.lists.katipo... has ever been told) | |
| 14:22 | paul | p nalon is preparing a paper for ppl wanting to join |
| 14:22 | (in fact, we haven't imagined we could have non french members ;-) ) | |
| 14:23 | slef | erm, there are a lot of non-french koha users... |
| 14:23 | not sure whether you remember that ;-) | |
| 14:23 | paul | yep, but it's a french association. |
| 14:24 | at dev week, last year, we spoke of this question : it's too hard to have a world wide association/NPO | |
| 14:24 | slef | so? Seems little point having an association in each country, at least in Euro-zone |
| 14:24 | paul | so, we begin with "local" ones. |
| 14:24 | "little point" ? | |
| 14:24 | slef | there is a cost and not much benefit |
| 14:25 | I don't remember the dev week discussion (what a surprise). Is there a record? | |
| 14:26 | Actually, is dev week the bit in the south of FR I wasn't at? | |
| 14:37 | paul | slef : right. |
| 14:38 | slef | cool - so who's our worldwide NPO expert? |
| 14:38 | paul | owen : i've played with global-staff.css, feel free to look at it at http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl |
| 14:39 | owen | Looking good, paul |
| 14:39 | paul | owen : already quite nice, without any template change. Just one thing that seems not correct : the white area that encloses the left menu |
| 14:39 | owen | That's definitely more what I have in mind for the final version, but I'm leaving that until I'm further along. |
| 14:39 | paul | I would like to have it just for the "work area", but it's not possible atm, because there is no "workingarea" unless i've missed something |
| 14:40 | no prob | |
| 14:40 | i'm already happy with that. | |
| 14:40 | owen | Do you mean like what "mainbloc" was before? |
| 14:41 | paul | yep |
| 14:49 | owen | paul: we may need to add something, an extra div |
| 14:49 | paul | That's what I think too |
| 14:59 | kados | http://www.ltls.org/ilssymposi[…]7/agendapage.html |
| 14:59 | hopefully they'll have wireless so I can be on chat at the same time :-) | |
| 15:00 | owen | I hope you're there already, because I don't think you can make it from Athens in 30 min. |
| 15:00 | kados | hehe |
| 15:00 | yea, I'm in champaign already | |
| 15:00 | drove up last night | |
| 15:01 | ok, I'm signing off, bbiab | |
| 15:03 | paul | owen : where is Champaign located ? |
| 15:04 | owen | Illinois |
| 15:04 | paul | thanks, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois) |
| 15:07 | owen : "I drove up last night" means he reached champaign by car ? seems a medium trip (300miles ?) | |
| 15:08 | owen | Yes. Google says 6 hours |
| 15:16 | admin/categoryitem.pl & admin/categoryitem.pl both not used anymore? Replaced by categorie.tmpl/pl ? | |
| 15:18 | paul | iirc, yes. |
| 15:18 | we spoke of that recently on koha-devel | |
| 15:19 | (I started the thread : database structure : some cleaning) | |
| 15:19 | aug, 8 | |
| 15:20 | owen | Ah, database structure. I didn't pay very close attention to that :) |
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| 07:45 | btoumi | hi all |
| 07:45 | chris are u around? | |
| 07:46 | kados are u around? |
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