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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:05 | Brooke | howdy |
| 13:26 | kados | morning pecisk, owen, Brook |
| 13:26 | owen | Hi kados |
| 13:34 | kados | slef++ for all the responses on the lists |
| 13:36 | paul | kados : 'morning to you. |
| 13:37 | do you have a minut to speak of template modifs ? | |
| 13:40 | (owen : if you're around, you can answer my questions as well I suppose) | |
| 13:41 | owen | Sure |
| 13:48 | paul | g'morning owen |
| 13:49 | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/koha/mainpage.pl (login abel / abel) | |
| 13:49 | is the uptodate git repo afaik | |
| 13:49 | I have some questions about what is done and what is not done. | |
| 13:49 | the left menu sometimes appear (like in mainpage.pl), sometimes not (like in http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]/members-home.pl) | |
| 13:49 | what is correct ? | |
| 13:50 | on members-home.pl, there is a koha logo, with a form (Search patrons / Check out) | |
| 13:50 | owen | Our new design has the left-hand menu space changing based on the context of the page |
| 13:50 | paul | sometimes there is no form (http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]alogue/search.pl) |
| 13:50 | owen | I'm in the process of adding the form to almost all pages |
| 13:51 | paul | sometimes the form contains other values (http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]c/circulation.pl) |
| 13:51 | owen | The primary form action will change based on the context of the page |
| 13:51 | paul | so there should usually be one ? |
| 13:52 | mmm... let's speak of things one after each other... so, the left menu... | |
| 13:52 | on catalogue/search.pl, there is none | |
| 13:52 | on circ/circulation.pl, there is a small one | |
| 13:53 | on http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]qui/acqui-home.pl there is a small one PLUS the previous complete one. | |
| 13:53 | owen | We haven't finished sorting that out |
| 13:53 | Almost none of the left-hand menus are correct at the moment | |
| 13:54 | paul | OK, so there should be no "old" menu on the left once done, right ? |
| 13:54 | owen | Yes, that's the plan |
| 13:54 | paul | sounds OK. |
| 13:54 | about the primary form, what will it contain ? | |
| 13:55 | why, for example, is there Check out and Search the catalog on http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]rc/circulation.pl | |
| 13:56 | and Search Patrons / Check out and Search the catalog at http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]s/members-home.pl | |
| 13:56 | kados | hi paul |
| 13:56 | paul | is it unfinished, or there's something i'm missing ? |
| 13:56 | kados | the global search is contextual |
| 13:56 | owen | the idea is that the primary search action changes based on the primary purpose of the module |
| 13:56 | kados | the options will change depending on the module you're in |
| 13:57 | we're supporing 'habitability' for users that will always go to the same place to do a search | |
| 13:57 | even if the search is fr a different thing | |
| 13:57 | paul | habitability ? (I understand the word, it's the same in gfrench, but not what you mean) |
| 13:58 | kados | users form habits |
| 13:58 | we want to support those habits in the design | |
| 13:58 | to make it easier for users to perform a given function | |
| 13:58 | paul | it's like usability ? |
| 14:00 | kados | it's one part of usability |
| 14:00 | w00t | |
| 14:00 | paul++ | |
| 14:00 | has hdl made progress on member entry? | |
| 14:00 | paul | today & friday, hdl is demo-ing Koha to a MAJOR library : BSG |
| 14:01 | kados | cool |
| 14:01 | paul | (Bibliothèque Sainte Geneviève) |
| 14:01 | (more than 1 million documents...) | |
| 14:01 | kados | that's great, paul |
| 14:01 | paul | yes, he did a lot of progress on member entry, but on previous templates. |
| 14:01 | so we can't commit it for instance. | |
| 14:02 | kados | it should be simple to convert, only about 15 lines or so |
| 14:02 | paul | I think we will wait until you've stabilised the stuff. |
| 14:02 | kados | header, and footer |
| 14:02 | sure | |
| 14:02 | paul | probably, but if we try to cherry-pick, it fails miserabily. iirc I had to do port manually 5 of the 13 commits |
| 14:03 | (but that was easy, I agree. Easier than solving failed automatic merges ;-) ) | |
| 14:03 | kados | hehe |
| 14:04 | paul | http://coupe-du-monde-de-rugby[…]s-tonga-live.html |
| 14:04 | kados | hehe |
| 14:04 | paul | (15-25 vs tonga) |
| 14:04 | kados | wow |
| 14:04 | go tonga | |
| 14:05 | paul | kados & owen : do you have a timeline to finish the template stuff ? |
| 14:07 | kados | I think those items will take longer than the template modifs |
| 14:07 | esp since the template modifs are fairly incremental | |
| 14:07 | (once we get the global elements done) | |
| 14:08 | (and they are nearly done I think, maybe 2-3 modules left?) | |
| 14:11 | paul: did you see MJ's comments on koha-dev about updating? | |
| 14:12 | paul | nope I go now to read them |
| 14:15 | kados : you speak of the aug,31 mail, isn't it ? | |
| 14:16 | kados | yes |
| 14:31 | paul | answered |
| 14:35 | kados : about the release = OK, but the timeline for the template stuff is important for us, as the memberentry will be after. | |
| 14:35 | so is it a question of a few days or a few weeks ? | |
| 14:36 | (not sure it's not a frenchism...) | |
| 14:38 | hello slef | |
| 14:38 | slef | So who wants to answer that dual-database question from koha.lists.katipo? |
| 14:38 | hi paul | |
| 14:43 | kados | slef: the Jon Bek one? |
| 14:51 | sent | |
| 14:52 | sorry in advance for top posting | |
| 14:52 | I didn't have time to convert his html email into text and reformat :-) | |
| 15:07 | paul | kados / owen, about memberentry (rewritted) |
| 15:07 | I could deal with hdl commit & new structure | |
| 15:07 | Here is the result : | |
| 15:07 | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]d&category_type=A | |
| 15:07 | BUT : | |
| 15:08 | Personal Information / Contacts / Library management are javascript, that is supposed to show & hide part of the template | |
| 15:08 | (like the main form) | |
| 15:08 | Can I use the main form we spoke with owen previously for this ? | |
| 15:08 | and how do I do exactly ? | |
| 15:09 | kados | paul: could we make the 'three tabs' feature an option? |
| 15:09 | paul | ??? |
| 15:09 | kados | I know several libraries in the US don't like to have to fill out more than one page |
| 15:09 | (even if it's just one page really) | |
| 15:10 | owen | That could be handled with custom CSS+custom js |
| 15:10 | kados | (they don't want it split into 3 pages) |
| 15:10 | slef | kados: thanks. |
| 15:10 | paul | owen : custom means specific CSS, or there is already something somewhere ? |
| 15:10 | slef | and +1 to simplifying forms and stripping out js ;-) |
| 15:11 | owen | slef: progressive enhancement |
| 15:11 | paul: I'm using a jquery plugin to manage tabs (including the resident search form) | |
| 15:13 | http://stilbuero.de/jquery/tabs/ | |
| 15:16 | Paul, do you want to send me what you have and I'll finish the process of setting up the tabs? | |
| 15:18 | paul | owen send by mail or through git ? |
| 15:19 | OK, done | |
| 15:19 | can kados accept patch immediatly or do we need to wait for chris ? | |
| 15:20 | (he should be sleeping now, was looking at the rugby match with Laurel, so should be consolating her) | |
| 15:20 | kados | paul: send it directly to me |
| 15:21 | or you can send it to owen actually | |
| 15:21 | paul | owen, what is your preferred mail ? |
| 15:21 | owen | oleonardmyacpl.org |
| 15:21 | paul | oleonard at myacpl.org ? |
| 15:22 | ok, sent | |
| 15:27 | owen | Thanks paul |
| 15:55 | CGI860 | Hi there, I am looking for web-based OSS that can help me organize my eBook collection. I am hoping to be able to browse by subject or author and search by title, etc. Does Koha fit that bill? |
| 16:12 | owen | CGI860: How big is your collection? |
| 16:25 | CGI860 | 10000+ |
| 16:25 | owen | Wow, you really could use a system for help! |
| 16:25 | CGI860 | I need storage of the files, and the ability to download them from the interface. |
| 16:26 | owen | One question to ask is whether Koha comes with more stuff than you really need--acquisitons, reports, patron management, etc. |
| 16:26 | CGI860 | I don't need "checkout/checkin" or physical inventory. |
| 16:26 | Yeah, I am sure it does. | |
| 16:26 | owen | Yeah... And Koha right now doesn't have a system for storing electronic resources. |
| 16:26 | CGI860 | But I can ignore stuff I dont need, as long as it does do the stuff I do need. :-) |
| 16:27 | owen | ...Although I think Katipo has a product for that? I'm not sure if it's been released. |
| 16:27 | CGI860 | Oh. Well that pretty much wraps up that discussion. |
| 16:27 | Oh? | |
| 16:27 | What is that? | |
| 16:27 | owen | I don't see it on their site, so I could be making that up: http://katipo.co.nz/solutions/ |
| 16:28 | CGI860 | Hmmm... oh well. |
| 16:28 | owen | Catch chris or rach when New Zealand wakes up and ask one of them |
| 16:28 | CGI860 | Any other pointers of possible products that you know of that I might check out? |
| 16:28 | owen | Nothing I know of, but my library doesn't manage electronic resources in that way so I'm out of the loop |
| 16:29 | CGI860 | Ah well. Thanks anyway for trying. |
| 17:08 | slef | erm, oops |
| 17:08 | I think I just went in a bit hard on Rick. | |
| 17:16 | kados++ for the dual-db answer, it seems | |
| 17:16 | /names | |
| 17:16 | [K] | *** #kohaFreeNode names: [K] rangi ru55el |
| 02:36 | masonj | nice |
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