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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:00 | Mordazy | lots of errors |
| 12:00 | will make a list and will be back here | |
| 12:01 | paul: thanks anyway | |
| 12:14 | chris | paul: im around now |
| 12:14 | paul | I did a git checkout -f master |
| 12:14 | chris | i jus sent joshua a patch removing those files.. that whole commit was a mistake |
| 12:15 | paul | and loose some (few) things I was working on. |
| 12:15 | what's the name of my local branch ? | |
| 12:18 | chris | ummm, did you make a branch? |
| 12:18 | checkout -f master checks out hte master branch | |
| 12:19 | checkout master does too, but it doesnnt get missing files | |
| 12:19 | git branch will list the branches you have | |
| 12:20 | i think i might have caused you to lose those changes :( | |
| 12:22 | ok, just going in to the ofice be back on irc soon | |
| 12:23 | sorry paul | |
| 12:32 | paul | chris : no prob, i'm discovering like you, and have lost only 2 or 3 lines of code ;-) |
| 12:35 | Mordazy | bye :) |
| 12:48 | chris | ahh encoding ... thats alwyas hard |
| 13:02 | kados | paul: can you check for plugin_javascript sub somewhere in your installations? |
| 13:02 | or maybe toins one? | |
| 13:02 | paul | hi kados. |
| 13:02 | kados | hi :-) |
| 13:02 | paul | I did, and get no problem. |
| 13:02 | kados | hmmm |
| 13:03 | so you don't have plugin_javascript routine? | |
| 13:03 | paul | http://i15.bureau.paulpoulain.[…]uing/addbiblio.pl |
| 13:03 | kados | sub plugin_javascript does not exist in koha git repo |
| 13:03 | for me anyway | |
| 13:04 | paul | ??? it used to be a sub called in plugins. |
| 13:04 | It's commented in C4/Biblio.pm, line 2767 | |
| 13:04 | (note I have added some comments, so the line # should not be exactly this one. | |
| 13:04 | kados | yes, but that's not the sub, eh? |
| 13:05 | paul | mmm... |
| 13:05 | kados | addbiblio.pl calls plugin_javascript |
| 13:05 | paul | you probably have a plugin that is buggy. |
| 13:05 | kados | hmmm |
| 13:05 | chris | http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]feebe071fa15acd71 |
| 13:05 | line 342 | |
| 13:06 | paul | chris : right, I missed that one. |
| 13:06 | chris | that should be commented out? |
| 13:06 | paul | nope |
| 13:07 | add a "warn $plugin" just before the do $plugin,; line | |
| 13:07 | you sjhould see which plugin is buggy | |
| 13:08 | kados | it's not a buggy plugin |
| 13:09 | the problem is that line 342 calls plugin_javascript | |
| 13:09 | in biblio.pm | |
| 13:09 | [K] | <rangi FreeNode> yeah there is a missing plugin_javascript routine .. that i think hasnt been committed |
| 13:09 | kados | in Koha, there is no plugin_javascript subroutine |
| 13:10 | paul | the plugin_javascript routine is in the plugin. |
| 13:10 | the "do $plugin" loads it dynamically | |
| 13:10 | at runtime. | |
| 13:10 | chris | ohhhh |
| 13:11 | that makes sense now | |
| 13:11 | thanks paul | |
| 13:11 | paul | you're welcome. |
| 13:12 | chris | having the line numbers in gitweb makes things easier |
| 13:15 | paul | chris : |
| 13:15 | (& kados) : not sure the virtualshelf stuff was properly committed : I don't see any differences (still use of bookshelves & refences to itemnumber field) | |
| 13:16 | chris | yeah we mucked up that whole commit |
| 13:16 | we are going to fix that today | |
| 13:18 | dbs | q about git: has anyone put a web interface on top of a koha git repository for browsing / searching purposes? |
| 13:19 | chris | yep |
| 13:19 | http://git.koha.org | |
| 13:19 | dbs | well that was easy :) |
| 13:19 | chris | yeah we are still finishing off that wiki page |
| 13:19 | dbs | I'll add that to the wiki |
| 13:19 | chris | then we will do a mail to the devel list |
| 13:19 | cool thanks dbs | |
| 13:20 | hi john :) | |
| 13:20 | kados | hiya dbs |
| 13:20 | chris | is it hot down there in crawford county? |
| 13:20 | kados | dbs: we haven't done an announcement just yet, we're still working out a few git growing pains |
| 13:21 | hopefully by the end of the week we'll have the kinks worked out | |
| 13:21 | chris | hi kyle |
| 13:21 | dbs | groovy |
| 13:21 | kyle | hey chris, kados. |
| 13:21 | kados | hiya kyle |
| 13:21 | kyle | I was hoping to talk to you two about a new reserves system. |
| 13:22 | kados | kyle: holds? or course reserves? |
| 13:22 | (holds I'm guessing, eh?) | |
| 13:22 | kyle | yes, holds. |
| 13:24 | kados | kyle: sure, what do you have in mind? |
| 13:24 | kyle | The current reserves system is not satisfactory for our librarians. I am interesting in working on a new reserves system. I was directed to speak to you two. I was hoping I might get some assistance on the work, but any input would be helpful. |
| 13:24 | kados | *nod* |
| 13:25 | kyle | I have a list of requirements for the reserves system. i think i could modify the current one to fit those requirements, but I don't want to fork Reserves2. I'd rather take the existing code and create Reserves3. |
| 13:25 | chris | oh no |
| 13:26 | :) | |
| 13:26 | kyle | ; ) |
| 13:26 | chris | how about Reserves :) |
| 13:26 | kados | it'd probably be a good time to change the nomenclature here, Holds.pm |
| 13:26 | chris | or yes Holds.pm |
| 13:26 | kyle | That can be your call, I've never even heard the term Hold in this context. |
| 13:27 | chris | its an academic library thing |
| 13:27 | kados | yea, publics call them reserves, academics call them holds |
| 13:27 | and they work differently too :-) | |
| 13:27 | chris | they have holds (what we call reserves) and course reserves, what they call reserves |
| 13:27 | kados | (most academic libraries don't pull books off the shelf for patrons) |
| 13:28 | kyle | How do they work? You mean Reserves => Holds, and Course Reservers => Reserves? |
| 13:28 | chris | thats what they call them yep |
| 13:29 | kyle | I'm guessing a reserve is an item that can only be checked out by a student enrolled in a certain course? |
| 13:29 | chris | yeah, thats kinda it |
| 13:29 | dbs | kyle: correct |
| 13:29 | items on reserve are usually searchable via course code, course name, instructor name | |
| 13:30 | chris | actually dbs will be able to explain better, he works at a university :) |
| 13:30 | dbs | kyle: you might want to take a look at reservedirect (open source academic reserve system) |
| 13:30 | kyle | We could do something similar using the existing ClubsAndServices module. |
| 13:30 | dbs | we run Unicorn's reserves module, but reservedirect was written by people to replace Unicorn's crappy reserves module :) |
| 13:31 | chris | heh |
| 13:31 | dbs | supports multiple backends |
| 13:31 | but it's php :/ | |
| 13:31 | chris | ahh kyle is good with php |
| 13:31 | kyle | indeed ; ) |
| 13:32 | Can you provide a link? I'm having trouble finding it. | |
| 13:32 | kados | kyle: google reservesdirect |
| 13:33 | dbs | reservesdirect.org |
| 13:33 | (sorry, missed the 's' | |
| 13:33 | kyle | google only gives vacationing links. |
| 13:33 | Thanks. | |
| 13:33 | kados | huh, first hit for me |
| 13:34 | dbs | yeah, "reservedirect" is vacations, "reservesdirect" is what you want |
| 13:34 | kyle | How is this program meant to integrate into an existing ILS? |
| 13:35 | kados | I suspect reservesdirect is just for course reserves, eh? |
| 13:35 | dbs | Right, not regular holds, just academic reserves |
| 13:36 | kyle: haven't worked that (or i18n) out, which is why it's not running here | |
| 13:37 | kyle | I see the line: Integrates with the library's catalog, providing convenient access to all course materials, physical and electronic, in one place |
| 13:38 | Do you think maybe the best solution would be to write some glue for Koha? | |
| 13:38 | chris | maybe for course reserves yep |
| 13:38 | kyle | Or do you think it would be better for koha to have its own integrated solution? |
| 13:38 | chris | im all about not reinventing the wheel if we dont have too :) |
| 13:39 | kyle | I agree completely ; ) |
| 13:40 | chris | owen: http://lilypond.org/git/binaries/mingw/ |
| 13:44 | kyle | does anyone have any suggesstions of possible improvements to the current 'Holds' System? |
| 13:45 | I have a list of them from my librarians if anyone is interested. | |
| 13:46 | kados | kyle: sounds useful, maybe start a thread on koha-devel? |
| 13:46 | chris | yeah, or a page on the wiki |
| 13:46 | or both :) | |
| 13:47 | kyle | both sound excellent. I will do that. |
| 13:47 | chris | i think future and holds with expiry dates |
| 13:47 | would be good for a start | |
| 13:47 | kyle | future? |
| 13:47 | dewey | it has been said that future is oranges |
| 13:47 | kyle | expiry dates are an excellent idea. |
| 13:48 | chris | like a start date for a reserve |
| 13:49 | kyle | ok, I understand now. |
| 13:50 | chris | we have something like it for the toledo diocese, but its pretty crufty |
| 13:53 | i cant think of anything else off the top of my head | |
| 14:14 | kados | paul: got a sec? |
| 14:14 | paul | yep |
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| 14:23 | chris | hi darci |
| 14:23 | [K] | <darciliciousFreeNode> hi chris! :) |
| 14:49 | chris | paul: i just sent some mail from patcheskoha.org to you, i hope it gets through |
| 15:21 | right, im all caught up on patches | |
| 15:21 | paul | chris : i've got 2 mails. |
| 15:22 | chris | cool, i hope they make sense |
| 15:23 | paul | i'm ok to let you deal with spent.pl ;-) |
| 15:24 | chris | cool |
| 16:51 | Brooke | Howdy |
| 16:51 | dewey | hola, Brooke |
| 16:59 | chris | hey brooke |
| 16:59 | Brooke | :D |
| 17:09 | chris | cool |
| 17:13 | Brooke | You're incredibly good natured about me making more work for ye :) |
| 17:14 | chris | hehe, it has to be done sooner or later |
| 17:14 | Brooke | chris ++ |
| 17:16 | chris | right lunch time, bbiab |
| 18:24 | back | |
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