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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:16 | kados | morning all |
| 12:17 | hi Frederic | |
| 13:31 | Frederic | hi kados. |
| 14:42 | kados | hi thd |
| 14:42 | thd | hello kados |
| 14:43 | kados | Frederic, thd: you here for Koha Project Day? |
| 14:43 | kyle_: you too? | |
| 14:47 | thd | I am answering some objections to various GPL V3 draft clauses to ensure we have no unfortunate surprises as a result of unanswered objects when GPL V3 is released in as little as two weeks from now. |
| 14:47 | kados | cool |
| 14:50 | thd | The only vital trouble I have had over GPL V3 draft language happened when changes were made to please objectors who were insufficiently well answered. |
| 14:51 | tnb | rch: ? |
| 14:52 | kados | hey tnb |
| 14:52 | tnb | hey josh |
| 14:52 | long layover? | |
| 14:52 | kados | couple hours |
| 14:52 | tnb | ah... |
| 14:52 | internet is sketchy everywhere today | |
| 14:52 | kados | *nod* |
| 14:53 | thd | I had noticed some people who had freenode as part of their connection information recently. Does a koha channel on freenode connect here? |
| 14:53 | kados | thd: there was a relay briefly |
| 14:54 | I think it was disconnected thougth | |
| 14:54 | I'll have chris set that up later today | |
| 15:05 | hi Luis | |
| 15:05 | Luis | Hi |
| 15:05 | kados | welcome to #koha |
| 15:05 | what brings you here? | |
| 15:05 | Luis | I am from Peru |
| 15:05 | kados | cool |
| 15:06 | Luis | I wish colaborate with Koha... it's the firs time that I connect with the community |
| 15:06 | kados | excellent! |
| 15:07 | what would you like to work on? | |
| 15:08 | Luis | I am a librarian.... and I love computer science.... I like GNU/Linux... translate or suggestion about Koha |
| 15:09 | kados | cool |
| 15:09 | i think there's already a spanish translation of Koha | |
| 15:09 | http://translate.koha.org/get_[…]hp?lg=en&view=all | |
| 15:09 | Luis | excellent ... |
| 15:09 | kados | yep, ther eis |
| 15:09 | there is I mean | |
| 15:10 | Luis: do you have Koha installed? | |
| 15:10 | Luis | Yes .... |
| 15:10 | kados | which version? |
| 15:10 | dewey | i heard which version was it ? |
| 15:10 | kados | 2.2.9? |
| 15:10 | Luis | 2.2.8 |
| 15:10 | kados | cool |
| 15:10 | Luis | yes, but I heard that it have many problems with mysql 5.0 |
| 15:11 | kados | well, there were some fixes for mysal 5.0 |
| 15:11 | but the RM didn't include them in 2.2.9 | |
| 15:11 | so they are 'fixed in the repo' afaik | |
| 15:11 | we just need to get Paul to pull them into the next release | |
| 15:12 | Luis: do you use ESMARC? | |
| 15:12 | Luis | I use Marc21 |
| 15:12 | kados | cool |
| 15:12 | Luis | I work in San Marcos University |
| 15:12 | kados | excellent |
| 15:13 | Luis | and we have a project ... we are configure Koha .... |
| 15:13 | Koha is excellente ILS ... | |
| 15:13 | kados | thank you! |
| 15:13 | we think so too :-) | |
| 15:14 | Luis: i think the first thing you could do is write an email to the koha list and introduce yourself, and tell us what your project is, who it will serve, how long you've been working on it, etc. | |
| 15:14 | Luis | ok |
| 15:15 | kados | also include what your talents are, and what you'd like to work on in the koha project (if applicable) |
| 15:16 | Luis | excellent.... I like it |
| 15:16 | I write an email ... | |
| 15:16 | I will write an email | |
| 15:16 | kados | cool |
| 16:00 | Frederic | kados: Yes, I'm here for Koha Project Day, even i don't really know what it means :) |
| 16:02 | As you have seen, I'm here part time... I won't be easy to be in touch directly. | |
| 16:03 | rch | Hi Frederic |
| 16:03 | have you been working with Koha for some time ? | |
| 16:07 | Frederic | Not really. I'm currently switching my business to providing Koha to French specialized libraries. |
| 16:08 | thd | Frederick: where are you located? |
| 16:09 | Frederic: where are you located? | |
| 16:09 | Frederic | I'm in touch with Paul. I hosted him to an exhibition I attended last week. We presented Koha. |
| 16:09 | Paris | |
| 16:10 | http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html : to contact me. | |
| 16:10 | thd | Frederic: what had your business from which you are switching done? |
| 16:11 | Frederic | We were lastly selling a proprietary US ILS. |
| 16:12 | thd | Frederic: which one? |
| 16:12 | dewey | which one is that? :-) |
| 16:12 | Frederic | Slef, where are you from? |
| 16:12 | slef | Frederic: England |
| 16:12 | Frederic | EOS.Web |
| 16:14 | I'm fighting to have a koha v3 installed. | |
| 16:15 | ... with mitigated success. | |
| 16:16 | thd | Frederic: do all parts of EOS.Web over a remote server? |
| 16:16 | tnb | Frederic: hi, I'm Tina Burger. I do marketing for LibLime and the Koha project. If you provide me with some info about your company , we can see you are added to the 'pay for support' page of the koha.org website |
| 16:16 | thd | s/over/run over/ |
| 16:16 | tnb | http://koha.org/support/pay.html |
| 16:17 | my email is: tnbliblime.com |
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| 16:17 | Frederic | tnb: I will send you an email. |
| 16:18 | tnb | cool. thanks! |
| 16:18 | Frederic | thd: I don't understand your question. EOS.Web, like Koha, is a true full web app. |
| 16:19 | thd | Frederic: so the record editor runs over the web as well? |
| 16:20 | Frederic | Tyna: you can see our marketing material on our web site : http://www.tamil.fr/solutions/koha/. and a brochure : http://www.tamil.fr/solutions/koha/flyer.pdf which was done with a logo LibLime provided to us (thanks) |
| 16:21 | thd: yes. With a dual mode : marc and non-marc (marc21 only) | |
| 16:23 | thd | Freceric: so you had customers in France who were using MARC 21 or were they all using non-MARC? |
| 16:24 | Frederic: or did you have customers in Quebec using MARC 21? | |
| 16:25 | Frederic | Non-MARC. Indeed, it could be interesting for some libraries, even in France, to catalog in MARC21. Because their titles are scientific and easily found on international biblio catalogs like LC. |
| 16:27 | For such libraries, an ideal solution would be to catalog in UNIMARC, but having a way to download MARC21 records and convert them in UNIMARC on the fly. | |
| 16:27 | Where are you from thd. Canada? | |
| 16:28 | thd | Frederic: I would be very much interested in seeing a demonstration of the EOS.Web MARC editor to see if there may be anything to be learnt from their design about the tricky business of designing MARC editors which run over the web. |
| 16:29 | Frederic: I am from New York City. | |
| 16:30 | Frederic: or live in New York City and from California. | |
| 16:31 | Frederic | I regret not to have visited NYC but I were in Boston several times and know South California from LA to San Diego area. |
| 16:32 | What do you want to learn about MARC editor? There is already one in koha and a new one to come: OpenCataloger. | |
| 16:34 | thd | Frederic: we do not have a perfect design and I am always looking for good ideas for design which may be incorporated for use in Koha. |
| 16:34 | Frederic: Could you provide me a demonstration of the EOS.Web MARC editor? | |
| 16:35 | Frederic | Send me a direct email. |
| 16:55 | Hi Paul | |
| 17:12 | thd | email sent Frederic |
| 17:53 | rch | hey all - has anyone created a framework implementing MARC21 LITE ? |
| 17:56 | paul: are you available ? | |
| 18:17 | hi randy | |
| 19:30 | kados | hey all |
| 19:31 | rch | +/who |
| 19:31 | hi kados | |
| 19:31 | kados | hey |
| 19:32 | how's it going? | |
| 19:33 | tnb | where are you? |
| 19:33 | kados | I'm at a Mall |
| 19:33 | about to head to my hotel | |
| 19:33 | tnb | ah |
| 19:34 | kados | tnb: I like your suggestions |
| 19:34 | tnb: maybe add them to the koha wiki somewhere? | |
| 19:34 | and when russ comes on, discuss with him? | |
| 19:35 | he's the current de facto website guy | |
| 19:35 | I totally agree showcase is confusing | |
| 19:35 | demos is much better | |
| 19:35 | tnb: I did manage to get quite a few new users listed recently thought | |
| 19:36 | tnb: http://koha.org/showcase/opacs.html | |
| 19:36 | but yea, no-where near enough listed | |
| 19:36 | tnb | right now, i'm working on mock-ups |
| 19:36 | kados | cool |
| 19:37 | thd | kados: does 'showcase' have more common use in NZ than elsewhere? |
| 19:37 | kados | I dunno |
| 19:40 | tnb | well, to me 'showcase' suggests 'portfolio' or users |
| 19:40 | but it is demos that is currently under that tab | |
| 20:56 | russel | howdy |
| 20:57 | kados | hey russ |
| 20:58 | rch | hi russ |
| 21:07 | chris | morning |
| 21:41 | rch | nabble looks pretty cool |
| 21:41 | hadn't seen that before - we should link to Koha - discuss from koha.org | |
| 21:42 | chris | definitely |
| 21:42 | russel | got the link i can do that right now |
| 21:42 | rch | http://www.nabble.com/Koha---Discuss-f14390.html |
| 21:48 | chris | nabble and gmane are both pretty neat |
| 21:52 | then bails to work on wiki.koha.org for a bit instead :) | |
| 22:05 | hey rach | |
| 22:06 | hi warr | |
| 22:08 | russel | http://www.koha.org/community/mailing-lists.html |
| 22:09 | chris | cool |
| 22:09 | russel | i'll wrap the mailing list sign up with the look and feel too |
| 22:09 | rach | morning |
| 22:10 | russel | hi rach |
| 22:10 | rach | your first koha project day? |
| 22:10 | chris | yep |
| 22:13 | hows ur little man doing rach? I hear you are trying the clicker training on his sleep routines? | |
| 22:15 | rach | yep - working well actually on improving his speed of going to sleep |
| 22:15 | particularly during the day | |
| 22:15 | chris | excellent |
| 22:15 | we are doing the buying a carseat thing at the moment, what did you guys get? | |
| 22:16 | rach | and after the first night when he woke up, he's gone back to having a bigger sleep through the night |
| 22:16 | safe n something | |
| 22:16 | I think | |
| 22:16 | chris | ohhh big sleep through the nights are excellent |
| 22:16 | safe n go? | |
| 22:17 | rach | could be |
| 22:17 | chris | one of the convertible ones? |
| 22:17 | rach | I don't think so |
| 22:17 | it can't do little babies | |
| 22:17 | chris | theres too many to choose from |
| 22:17 | ahh right | |
| 22:18 | rach | it has a couple of different positions, more and less upright |
| 22:19 | chris | does it do forward and rear facing, or just forward? we are debating renting a rear facing one for the next 5 months then getting a forward facing one |
| 22:20 | or buying one that can do both (the forward facing only ones last till they are a lot older) | |
| 22:21 | rach | does both |
| 22:21 | chris | ta |
| 22:22 | rach | did rear facing until he was about 1, then forward facing |
| 22:22 | chris | right |
| 22:59 | russel | ok bit better - http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
| 23:01 | chris | cool russ |
| 23:53 | hi gganno | |
| 23:54 | kados | cool chris |
| 23:55 | chris | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ment:modules:head |
| 23:55 | t/Amazon.t could go a couple more tests kados :-) | |
| 23:55 | kados | nice |
| 23:55 | hehe | |
| 23:56 | chris | its just doing a basic compile one |
| 23:56 | but thats a good start | |
| 23:56 | kados | excellent |
| 23:56 | chris | cos you can run perl misc/testKoha.pl |
| 23:56 | and it will run all the tests (that weve written anyway) | |
| 23:57 | so by the end of the day that will be doing a basic does use module | |
| 23:57 | work for all the modules | |
| 23:57 | kados | very cool chrks |
| 23:57 | chris even :-) | |
| 23:57 | chris | plus a few more i write a long the way |
| 23:57 | Acquisition.t makes a new basket, then gets that basket | |
| 23:58 | any easy ones like that i spot ill write tests for as i go | |
| 23:59 | gganno | hi chris |
| 23:59 | I am just hanging around | |
| 23:59 | chris | cool |
| 00:00 | do you use Koha? | |
| 00:00 | gganno | I am trying |
| 00:01 | chris | cool, are you a librarian? |
| 00:01 | gganno | I do not have anything in production yet |
| 00:01 | Yes Librarian | |
| 00:01 | chris | in the US? |
| 00:01 | gganno | Currently yes |
| 00:01 | in the US | |
| 00:02 | chris | sweet, im in nz |
| 00:02 | gganno | But, I am actually from Mali (Africa) |
| 00:02 | chris | oh cool, we have a few libraries in Africa using Koha, i dont think one in Mali though |
| 00:03 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=kohausers#africa | |
| 00:03 | gganno | The situation of Libraries in Mali make it difficult to adopt any web based application |
| 00:04 | chris | no internet access? |
| 00:04 | gganno | Usually no computers at all |
| 00:04 | chris | *nod* |
| 00:04 | makes sense | |
| 00:05 | gganno | I will probably be the first to adopt Koha in Mali |
| 00:05 | kados | gganno++ |
| 00:07 | gganno | You find Timbuktu, you find Mali |
| 00:07 | chris | :) |
| 00:07 | ahhh | |
| 00:08 | by algeria .. colonised by the french too eh? | |
| 00:08 | gganno | Yes colonised by french |
| 00:09 | chris | thats the neat thing i like working on Koha, I dont think I would have talked to anyone from Mali if it wasnt for Koha :) |
| 00:10 | gganno | From Mali to NZ, it is not a short distance |
| 00:10 | chris | it sure isnt :) |
| 00:11 | if you ever need any help with Koha, there is usually someone here .. and often some french speakers if thats helpful .. otherwise the mailing lists are a good pplace to ask questions | |
| 00:12 | gganno | Thanks |
| 00:13 | As soon as I start my koha implementation | |
| 00:13 | I will be spamming the list with questions | |
| 00:13 | chris | :_ |
| 00:13 | :) even | |
| 00:21 | gganno | bye |
| 00:21 | chris | cya later |
| 02:01 | thd` | kados: does 'showcase' have more common use in NZ than elsewhere? |
| 02:01 | oops | |
| 02:52 | thd | kados: are you awake? |
| 07:59 | chris | hi france :) |
| 07:59 | paul | hi chris |
| 07:59 | hdl | hi chris. |
| 08:07 | paul | chris : nice to see on CVS the first effects of KPD ;-) |
| 08:08 | chris | :) |
| 08:08 | ive been working on this too | |
| 08:09 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ment:modules:head | |
| 08:09 | nearly finished it | |
| 08:09 | paul | yes, I've seen (thanks to RSS...) |
| 08:10 | chris | :) |
| 08:10 | paul | is it manually or by script created ? |
| 08:10 | chris | some by script some manual |
| 08:11 | ill keep it up to date by watching commits to HEAD | |
| 08:12 | and i will complain if people add new subroutines and don't edit the .t file :) | |
| 08:12 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]development:tests | |
| 08:13 | i have that running as a cron job, and emails the results to me | |
| 08:14 | next KPD, ill add more to the tests at the moment most of them are just a simple syntax test (ie does use Modulename; work) | |
| 08:15 | toins did great work on the BookShelves tests | |
| 08:15 | toins | hi chris |
| 08:16 | chris: have you ever seen perl module WWW::Mechanize::Test ? | |
| 08:16 | seems excellent to make some unit test for web developement | |
| 08:17 | chris | ohh cool |
| 08:17 | toins | not only test the functions |
| 08:17 | chris | have you ever seen selenium? |
| 08:17 | toins | chris: yep |
| 08:17 | but i have not use it | |
| 08:18 | chris | we have started to get our clients to use it |
| 08:18 | http://www.openqa.org/selenium-ide/ | |
| 08:19 | they can record what they do to show us the bug, then attach the file (it saves as just an html file) | |
| 08:19 | then we can run it, to recreate the bug, to help us fix it | |
| 08:19 | paul | great idea ! |
| 08:21 | lloyd | that is a pretty handy tool |
| 08:21 | chris | yep |
| 08:21 | often its hard to document all the steps you took to make a bug appear, much easier if you can just record what you do | |
| 08:56 | hi bureado | |
| 08:56 | bureado | chris, good day |
| 10:09 | slef | hi all. lloyd: are you around? |
| 10:17 | lloyd | hey I am mate |
| 10:17 | sup | |
| 10:18 | slef | Wondering if you've heard of or you use the CILIP UK Core Spec for LMSes at all? |
| 10:19 | lloyd | yeah heard of it, but we dont use it |
| 10:19 | slef | why not, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 10:20 | lloyd | No idea, not my area =) |
| 10:20 | slef | nice swerve :) |
| 10:21 | lloyd | library management systems in the nhs are a mess |
| 10:22 | there is no standard | |
| 10:22 | when a library wants a LMS they approach suppliers with what they need, the suppliers do demo's then they pick the one they like the most | |
| 10:23 | slef | I wonder whether UKCS is an attempt to raise barriers to entry by |
| 10:23 | current LMS suppliers, but I don't want to pay 500 quid to find out. | |
| 10:23 | lloyd | maybe |
| 10:24 | I can't remember the most popular ones atm | |
| 10:24 | I know Heritage is one of them | |
| 10:24 | slef | That's IS Oxford's? |
| 10:24 | lloyd | yeah |
| 10:24 | slef | yeah, I hear lot about it |
| 10:24 | lloyd | none of it good I presume |
| 10:24 | slef | mixed |
| 10:24 | lloyd | ahh well, it's shite |
| 10:24 | slef | argh, just got named along with koha in this debian conference session |
| 10:25 | just as I was typing in IRC | |
| 10:25 | that was strange | |
| 10:25 | lloyd | we're using it here. |
| 10:26 | slef | I'd've thought it was a bit small for your needs, tbh |
| 10:26 | and not flexible enough | |
| 10:26 | lloyd | nah it's all seperate atm |
| 10:26 | 28 different LMS's | |
| 10:26 | and at the this library, we're running heritage | |
| 10:27 | we'll prolly be the 4th or 5th library to migrate over the koha system | |
| 10:28 | slef | lloyd: can I pass your contact details to another hospital? (Sorry, can't remember if I asked before.) |
| 10:28 | lloyd | no you didnt ask before, but yes feel free to |
| 10:30 | slef | thanks |
| 10:31 | lloyd | I'm going on holiday for two weeks this Wednesday, so may not answer/reply =) |
| 10:35 | slef | I'll warn them. |
| 10:35 | They're @uclh | |
| 10:39 | lloyd | kk |
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