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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 22:15 | kados | chris++ |
| 22:15 | thanks | |
| 22:15 | chris | np |
| 22:16 | kados | chris: we should put some documentation on our staff wiki for stuff like that |
| 22:16 | unless it's something you have to do from your account on merry | |
| 22:17 | chris | ts just running in a screen |
| 22:17 | ill write it up | |
| 22:18 | kados | sweet |
| 22:40 | chris: you around? | |
| 22:50 | chris | yep |
| 23:45 | thd | kados: I am back |
| 23:45 | kados: and I found the olinks code :) | |
| 23:46 | kados | wow, cool |
| 23:46 | where was it hidden? | |
| 23:50 | thd | kados: it is written in PHP with MySQL tables and an administration script in Perl |
| 23:50 | kados | thd: great detective work |
| 23:53 | thd | yet, we have an OpenURL resolver as part of something from IndexData? |
| 23:54 | kados | do we? |
| 23:54 | I'm not sure actually, I'll ask | |
| 23:54 | thd | I thought that you had made that assertion at some time |
| 23:58 | kados: what had you wanted a couple of hours ago? | |
| 23:59 | kados | I was going to ask you about MARC holdings data models |
| 23:59 | thd | what about them? |
| 23:59 | kados | well, just mainly brainstorming on what changes need to be made to the koha frameworks and the koha sql tables to achieve optimal support for the standard |
| 00:01 | thd | kados: if you want optimal support use tumer's XML metarecord model |
| 00:04 | kados: then create some additional local use indexing field for indexing at whatever level is desired: monograph for monographs; year, issue, whatever for serials all in separate holdings record components | |
| 00:05 | kados: is that too much work? :) | |
| 00:06 | s/components/MARC records held within the metadata record for indexing/ | |
| 00:06 | s/metadata record/metarecord/ | |
| 00:08 | kados: the individual bibliographic and holdings records are each created and edited separately | |
| 00:09 | each stored separately with the metarecord built by a script but never edited directly | |
| 00:09 | kados | I have to look again at his model |
| 00:11 | thd | kados: I think that trying to fix that very well in SQL could be more work than required to implement tumer's model, especially as he has it working |
| 00:11 | kados: do you have funding to make it work for you? | |
| 00:12 | kados | yes, perhaps |
| 00:21 | thd | hello dewey |
| 00:25 | kados: were you still hoping to model holdings in some elegant set of hierarchical SQL tables? | |
| 00:26 | kados | perhaps |
| 00:27 | thd | kados: I would suggest fixing the indexation model with XPath in Zebra first and then see if supplementing that with something in SQL can produce additional value |
| 00:31 | kados: it is too easy to end up with the same efficiency problems which prompted moving to Zebra if you do not address the problem in Zebra first | |
| 00:44 | kados: http://library.neu.edu.tr/kohanamespace/ | |
| 00:44 | kados: http://library.neu.edu.tr/koha[…]ce/koharecord.xsd | |
| 00:45 | kados: these are actually extensions of very similar LC documents for MARCXML | |
| 00:51 | kados: here is an XSL file for indexing: http://library.neu.edu.tr/koha[…]ce/koha2index.xsl | |
| 02:04 | kados | chris: seen this one: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]-June/011852.html |
| 02:04 | dewey | I haven't seen 'this', kados |
| 02:09 | kados | thd`: I have downloaded olinks |
| 02:09 | thd`: about to work through the install guide now | |
| 02:39 | thd`: we're missing some important files | |
| 02:39 | ipranges.php and members.php | |
| 02:39 | and I'm getting tired so I'm gonna head to bed | |
| 02:41 | chris | ye[ |
| 02:41 | i saw that id spotted it before his message | |
| 02:41 | and fixed the template | |
| 02:41 | kados | sweet, thanks |
| 02:41 | chris | it hated RESERVES, namespace collision |
| 02:42 | as RESERVES was defined in another loop too, its a bug in html::template | |
| 02:42 | kados | wow |
| 02:42 | interesting | |
| 02:42 | did you file a bug/ | |
| 02:42 | ? | |
| 02:42 | chris | unless its a new undocumented feature |
| 02:43 | ie, html::template 2.9 error, 2.8 works fine | |
| 02:43 | change RESERVES to RESERVE | |
| 02:43 | dewey | chris: that doesn't look right |
| 02:43 | chris | error goes awya |
| 02:43 | kados | night #koha |
| 02:44 | chris | night |
| 04:07 | kados | hey randy, welcome to #koha :-) |
| 04:07 | kados = Joshua | |
| 04:07 | :-) | |
| 04:08 | randy | hi josh, guess we're both up late working!? |
| 04:08 | just got ur email so thought i'd install and irc client and see if i could connect | |
| 04:09 | kados | cool |
| 04:09 | randy | how does the process normally work... |
| 04:10 | is it like im but for groups | |
| 04:10 | kados | yea, basically |
| 04:10 | the channel is held open as long as someone's on it | |
| 04:11 | and there's a bot that logs everything | |
| 04:11 | so even if you're not on the channel, you can always see what others have said | |
| 04:11 | randy | cool |
| 04:11 | kados | its a pretty common way to chat among developers |
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