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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 19:56 | kados | doing some house cleaning on our servers this weekend |
| 19:56 | just moved over screen servers | |
| 20:26 | thd | kados: do you understand what tumer means by the new koha_attr table? |
| 20:28 | kados: "These field names now do not exist. So now we create virtula ones by a user editable screen." | |
| 20:31 | kados: are you there still? | |
| 06:47 | czokie | If anyone's awake, I was trying a clean install of 2.3 ... and I'm having issues with the DB creation.... Anyone awake to give some tips? |
| 06:48 | chris | im just about to go to bed, but ill just check that you realise 2.3 is pretty bleeding edge and no where near ready for production |
| 06:51 | the installer.pl should do the database creation for you, then you will need to follow the documentation at | |
| 06:51 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php#[…]nd_encoding_notes | |
| 06:52 | mostly this bit | |
| 06:52 | http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ingzebraplugin226 | |
| 06:52 | czokie | Hi Chris. Installer failed - I did most of it by hand. |
| 06:52 | chris | but there is isnt a nice easy way to install it, its still a development version |
| 06:52 | czokie | Wanted to work out how to do a manual DB create.... |
| 06:52 | (I know it's dev - I am just playing!) | |
| 06:52 | chris | youll need to find the koha.sql |
| 06:53 | and pipe that into your database | |
| 06:53 | then run updatedatabase | |
| 06:53 | czokie | Did that - and did a manual drop / create. but marc record create was not there. |
| 06:53 | Ie a default marc structure. | |
| 06:53 | chris | you ran updatedatabase? |
| 06:53 | czokie | yep |
| 06:53 | chris | right |
| 06:53 | czokie | I can do again .... to make sure. |
| 06:53 | chris | there will be some other files |
| 06:53 | that make it | |
| 06:54 | you can look at Install.pm | |
| 06:54 | and see what files it uses to populate the marc tables | |
| 06:54 | czokie | I manually did a search for *.sql - and found one that looked like a good candidate. |
| 06:54 | The links in koha2marclinks.pl seem broken. | |
| 06:55 | also, lots of parameters that were in previous version are not created... | |
| 06:55 | eg: date format.... (Cant create a user) | |
| 06:55 | chris | updatedatabase should do all that |
| 06:55 | czokie | Yes, I know its bleeding edge :) |
| 06:55 | Dont forget, I am not updating, I am creating. | |
| 06:55 | chris | yep |
| 06:55 | its called by the installer too | |
| 06:56 | czokie | OK. Will give it 1 more try tonite. |
| 06:56 | Time to blow it away again | |
| 06:56 | chris | then you still have to do all the getting zebra going stuff :) |
| 06:56 | czokie | I dont even know what zebra is yet - Had a quick search b4. I think I have most of the modules installed. |
| 06:57 | (I am a glutton for punishment - I am installing this on a bluequartz host). | |
| 06:57 | centos based | |
| 06:59 | chris | so what the installer does is run |
| 06:59 | scripts/updater/updatedatabase -s | |
| 06:59 | then if you choose marc21 | |
| 06:59 | scripts/misc/marc_datas/marc21_en/structure_def.sql | |
| 06:59 | pipes that in | |
| 07:00 | and then | |
| 07:00 | scripts/misc/sql-datas/english/ | |
| 07:00 | the .sql files in there too | |
| 07:01 | right its midnight now, im gonna hit the hay, if you are around tomorrow i should be around | |
| 07:01 | good luck | |
| 07:01 | czokie | Tks. |
| 07:01 | I just found some more sql that I missed b4 - not in that dir above - but I should be OK now (here's hoping) | |
| 07:01 | Nite | |
| 07:08 | If u see this tonite chris - Fixed the marc prob - Now onto the config parameters one. | |
| 10:32 | owen | kados: do you know where Koha checks to see what branch you're logged in as? It really causes problems for us that Chauncey comes up as the default branch when someone hasn't manually selected a branch. |
| 10:32 | kados | hmmm |
| 10:32 | I think someone just committed a fix for that | |
| 10:32 | in rel_2_2 I thought it checks the uesr branch you're logged in as | |
| 10:33 | in any case, it woudl be in Auth.pm | |
| 10:33 | probably checkauth() | |
| 10:34 | at the very least you should be able to print the branchname of the current branch now at the top of the intranet screen | |
| 10:34 | now | |
| 10:35 | owen | I wonder if the login screen should include a branch selection form |
| 10:35 | kados | great idea1 |
| 10:39 | owen | It's getting to the point where no one trusts Chauncey's circ stats, because other branches end up logged in as Chauncey without knowing it. |
| 10:53 | kados | right |
| 10:53 | so we need a fix for that in this upgrade | |
| 10:54 | could you add it to the wiki list? | |
| 10:54 | owen | Yes |
| 11:07 | kados | owen: so what'd you think of the feedback we got yesterday? |
| 11:07 | owen | I was glad to see folks were looking. |
| 11:08 | kados | some good suggestions too |
| 11:08 | owen | I agree with the choice of New vs. Old rather than date ascending and descending |
| 11:08 | kados | me too |
| 11:08 | feel free to edit it whenever you get a chance and commit back to cvs | |
| 11:08 | the copy on zoomopac is the same as latest cvs btw | |
| 11:09 | owen | I think it's interesting that a stricter standards-based MARC search is exposing the holes we've got in our MARC records. |
| 11:09 | kados | yea :-) |
| 11:09 | interesting in what way? :-) | |
| 11:11 | one of the things it reveals to me is the failings of the MARC standard | |
| 11:11 | owen | I think it's neat that giving the staff some power when it comes to doing real searching makes them more aware of what they need from the catalgue |
| 11:12 | kados | because the barrier to entry for constructing proper MARC records is pretty high |
| 11:12 | owen | Yeah |
| 11:12 | kados | yep, that is neat |
| 11:12 | it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in the early MARC days | |
| 11:13 | i wonder why they decided to make it so complex | |
| 11:14 | owen | I was confused by the email about Koha 3.0 saying each item will have its own MARC record. |
| 11:14 | kados | yea? |
| 11:14 | well ... | |
| 11:14 | basically, not each item, but each set of items | |
| 11:14 | there are several MARC standards | |
| 11:15 | bibliographic, holdings, authorities, community, etc. | |
| 11:15 | in the MARC21 holdings standard | |
| 11:15 | each set of library holdings has a record | |
| 11:15 | it consists of a leader, some fixed fields, and a bunch of tags like 852, etc. | |
| 11:16 | if you're curious, check out this reference: http://www.itsmarc.com/crs/hold0654.htm | |
| 11:16 | in Koha 3.0, we're going to pull out each type of record and put it in it's own database | |
| 11:17 | so you will have a bibliographic database, a holdings database, an authorities database, etc. | |
| 11:18 | make sense? | |
| 11:20 | owen | Yeah, I think so. |
| 11:33 | kados: have you thought any more about the item type/collection discussion we had on Thursday? |
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