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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:12 | owen | Should ALL members automatically have privileges to borrow and reserve books? |
| 12:12 | kados | hmmm |
| 12:12 | owen | Does the system even check for those privileges? |
| 12:12 | kados | I'm not sure it checks for that |
| 12:12 | in fact, I'm sure it doesnt :-) | |
| 12:13 | for some reason setstatus.pl needs to be chmod 755 | |
| 12:13 | :( | |
| 12:13 | owen | Yeah, it installs with wrong permissions every time |
| 12:15 | kados | ok, I'll add that to the postinstall script |
| 12:18 | owen: Do we want to retain the ability to use links in the MARC detail page to search for a specific tagâs contents? | |
| 12:18 | owen: on the wiki | |
| 12:18 | owen: not sure I get that ... what are you referring to? | |
| 12:19 | owen | If you look at a MARCdetail screen, you'll see little question marks after each field. Those linked to MARC searches for the exact contents of each tag |
| 12:19 | kados | in the intranet then ... ahh |
| 12:20 | yea, I think we want that | |
| 12:20 | right? | |
| 12:20 | though there isn't a 'marc search' per se | |
| 12:21 | owen | It's useful sometimes, but with better searching there will be less of a need for it. |
| 12:21 | I'm not sure our staff even knows you can search that way | |
| 13:24 | kados: you still around? | |
| 13:25 | kados | owen: yep |
| 13:26 | owen | I'm wonder why the intranetcolorstylesheet stuff has to be added to each script when it's already in Auth.pm |
| 13:26 | kados | maybe it's not in the right place in Auth.pm? |
| 13:27 | this in rel_2_2 or devweek or both? | |
| 13:27 | owen | Probably both, but I'm looking at devweek stuff right now |
| 13:31 | kados | line 499: |
| 13:31 | intranetcolorstylesheet => C4::Context->preference("intranetcolorstylesheet"), | |
| 13:31 | look right? | |
| 13:32 | owen | That's what I'm looking at |
| 13:33 | Here's what prompted the question: http://zoomkoha.liblime.com/cg[…]e.pl?bornum=48910 | |
| 13:33 | kados | so every script has: |
| 13:33 | output_html_with_http_headers | |
| 13:33 | at the bottom | |
| 13:33 | and I think that's where the auth stuff comes into play | |
| 13:33 | I think ... | |
| 13:33 | hmmm, maybe not | |
| 13:34 | it's get_template_and_user | |
| 13:34 | that's in Auth.pm | |
| 13:35 | so that calls checkauth | |
| 13:35 | my ($user, $cookie, $sessionID, $flags) | |
| 13:35 | = checkauth($in->{'query'}, $in->{'authnotrequired'}, $in->{'flagsrequired'}, $in->{'type'}); | |
| 13:58 | so checkauth doesn't do anything with intranet stuff | |
| 13:59 | owen: got it | |
| 13:59 | owen: so what else needs to be there for intranet stuff? | |
| 14:01 | owen | intranetcolorstylesheet, intranetstylesheet, IntranetNav |
| 14:01 | Was it not in the right section? | |
| 14:03 | kados | that's alotta code to parse through :-) |
| 14:05 | owen: ok ... I've fixed it and committed to dev_week | |
| 14:08 | done | |
| 14:08 | ok, lets turn off fuzzy | |
| 14:09 | so to refresh our memory | |
| 14:09 | we consult the bib1 syntax doc: | |
| 14:09 | http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html | |
| 14:09 | hmmm maybe not :-) | |
| 14:10 | fuzzy is regExpr-2 | |
| 14:10 | 5=103 IIRC | |
| 14:10 | so we can basically just remove all of those | |
| 14:11 | better might be to replace with 5=1 | |
| 14:11 | which means right-truncation would be the default | |
| 14:11 | ie, that turns 'test' into 'test*' | |
| 14:11 | owen | That makes sense to me. |
| 14:11 | kados | you wanna do the honors? |
| 14:12 | owen | Can if you want |
| 14:13 | kados | is the template on dev_week up to date with your local coppy? |
| 14:13 | owen | You mean the template on zoomopac* and zoomkoha* ? |
| 14:14 | Or CVS? | |
| 14:19 | kados | cool |
| 14:20 | every time I edit something I commit it | |
| 14:20 | that way there is a full history of what I've done | |
| 14:20 | and i don't have to remember whether I committed something :-) | |
| 14:21 | owen | Yeah, I'm not keeping up well this week. |
| 14:29 | Okay, all caught up on commits | |
| 14:32 | thd | kados: do you have a script to commit something every time you edit it? |
| 14:41 | kados: have you modified the save buffer command to commit to cvs as well? | |
| 14:42 | kados | thd: no but that's an idea I've played with :-) |
| 14:43 | owen | Sounds a little reckless to me, but I'm faint of heart with commits |
| 14:43 | kados | :-) |
| 14:44 | hehe | |
| 15:00 | owen: it looks like some of those commits might be useful for rel_2_2 also | |
| 15:04 | owen: did you turn all of the 5=103 into 5=1? | |
| 15:05 | owen | The Advanced search ones, under Title and Author |
| 15:05 | kados | hmmm |
| 15:05 | owen | Not the ones under Power search (Truncation=fuzzy) |
| 15:05 | kados | right |
| 15:06 | that's better | |
| 15:06 | I"ll write a note to Gloria | |
| 15:23 | owen | In moremember.pl: $data->{'IS_ADULT'} = ($data->{'categorycode'} ne 'I'); |
| 15:24 | That means IS_ADULT == true unless categorycode is I, right? | |
| 15:37 | kados: you need to update Koha's about page to give yourself some credit! | |
| 15:46 | kados | I do? |
| 15:46 | owen | You're still listed under NPL |
| 15:46 | kados | ahh, right |
| 15:49 | owen | kados: did you see my to-do list item about issues and renewals? |
| 16:16 | kados | owen: looking now |
| 16:17 | interesting | |
| 16:17 | Renewed items have no due date | |
| 16:17 | Newly issued items are not appearing under â Today's Issues | |
| 16:17 | owen: those two? | |
| 16:17 | owen | Yes |
| 16:18 | kados | do we need them to show up under 'today's issues'? |
| 16:18 | owen | they usually show up under the first header |
| 16:18 | kados | I see a returned date on returned items |
| 16:19 | I mean a due date | |
| 16:19 | ahh renewed items | |
| 16:19 | owen | and then anything checked out previously shows up under previous issues |
| 16:19 | kados | right |
| 16:20 | 2 | |
| 16:21 | not working in rel_2_2 | |
| 16:21 | so I think we did away with the distinction if my memory serves me | |
| 16:22 | hmmm, maybe not | |
| 16:22 | if ($todaysdate == $issuedate) { | |
| 16:24 | owen | By the way: the issuing rules appear to work for item type limitations, but they won't work for NPL |
| 16:24 | NPL doesn't limit by specific item types, it limits by /groups/ of item types | |
| 16:25 | kados | well, we will just have to set up each itemtype according to the group |
| 16:27 | owen | But you can't set up issuing rules to limit to 10 AV /or/ AVJ /or/ DVD etc. |
| 16:27 | kados | ahh |
| 16:27 | gotcha | |
| 16:27 | owen | We'd have to allow patrons to take ten of each if we used issuingrules |
| 16:27 | kados | hehe, I wish |
| 16:27 | anyway | |
| 16:27 | owen | :) Nice try |
| 16:28 | kados | so basically what we're saying is that itemtype's don't match perfectly to collection codes |
| 16:28 | they also don't match perfectly to locations | |
| 16:28 | so what the heck are they? | |
| 16:28 | other than poorly concieved categories? | |
| 16:29 | this is the kind of thing that bugs me about NPL currently | |
| 16:29 | there are these problems with the collection | |
| 16:29 | but noone is willing to address them | |
| 16:29 | and actually take some time to fix them | |
| 16:30 | owen | I think we didn't explain the situation very well at the meeting |
| 16:30 | kados | meaning I didn't :-) |
| 16:30 | yea, I was feeling pretty crappy that day | |
| 16:30 | owen | I didn't understand it well enough to back you up |
| 16:30 | kados | plus lauren was giving me looks |
| 16:30 | owen | But I get the gist of it, and I'd like to work on the solution. |
| 16:31 | I'll be in your corner | |
| 16:31 | kados | sweet |
| 16:31 | ok, so what we really need to do is identify our true collection codes | |
| 16:31 | ie, what distinctions actually matter for circ? | |
| 16:31 | those are our itemtypes in Koha | |
| 16:32 | chris | yeah |
| 16:32 | kados | hey chris |
| 16:32 | chris | thats pretty much what itemtypes are for, circ rules, and reserve rules etc |
| 16:33 | hi owen and joshua | |
| 16:33 | owen | Hi chris |
| 16:34 | chris | i was thinking of you the other day owen, when i was eating a subway sandwich, i wondered , i wonder how owen is going |
| 16:34 | owen | :) |
| 16:34 | chris | its funny how the brain associates things |
| 17:20 | Burgwork | kados, whom should I speak to about planet koha being dead? |
| 17:20 | kados | Burgwork: mj ray |
| 17:20 | Burgwork: slef | |
| 17:20 | he's not on at the moment | |
| 17:21 | chris | hmm i think it was looking at my old blog too |
| 17:35 | Burgwork | and the old wiki |
| 17:36 | chris | yes the old wiki is dead, on purpose |
| 17:36 | Burgwork | yep |
| 17:36 | the old login dialog really used to get me | |
| 17:36 | chris | all the content was shifted to the new wiki |
| 19:09 | ToinS` | bye all |
| 22:22 | Burgundavia | kados: I have put my money where my mouth was. Check your inbox for my opac critique |
| 22:30 | kados | Burgundavia: great! |
| 22:39 | Burgundavia | kados: except it got caught by the filter, due to the attached screenshot |
| 22:39 | kados | yea, I approved it |
| 22:40 | Burgundavia | perfect |
| 22:41 | kados | heh |
| 22:41 | Align text entry boxes, either right or left. Have the description | |
| 22:41 | tag beside them, not on top or the bottom | |
| 22:41 | Search boxes have a common UI. It is a text entry field with the | |
| 22:41 | button with the word "Search" on it. Sadly, the new OPAC appears to | |
| 22:41 | have departed from this idea. | |
| 22:41 | AJAX is a must. This part is already done well | |
| 22:41 | no ajax currently :-) | |
| 22:42 | Burgundavia | kados: you use some sort of javascript loading for the tabs |
| 22:42 | kados | Authors, Titles, Subject ... hmmm, that wouldn't leave room for the other search types, like power and the linke |
| 22:42 | yea, but that's not ajax :-) | |
| 22:42 | Burgundavia | hence the advanced search options |
| 22:42 | most users are not going to search beyond those options | |
| 22:42 | kados | ajax = asynchronous javascript and xml |
| 22:42 | Burgundavia | yes |
| 22:43 | kados | our javascript is quite synchronous and doesn't use xml sadly :-) |
| 22:43 | Burgundavia | in fact, I seriously doubt most users even go beyond the basic search |
| 22:43 | kados | I 100% agree |
| 22:43 | Burgundavia | read the part of tricking the user if the connection is slow |
| 22:44 | kados | yep, we do that on the MARC editor page, would be trivial to add |
| 22:45 | Burgundavia | except all the web interfaces of Koha look like someone spilled the green and purple paint on them |
| 22:45 | kados | not all of them :-) |
| 22:45 | wipoopac.liblime.com | |
| 22:45 | opac.afognak.org | |
| 22:46 | Burgundavia | I am talking about the default look |
| 22:46 | kados | ahh, yes of course |
| 22:46 | Burgundavia | there are going to be a fair number of people that will never change the default |
| 22:46 | hence why defaults are so important | |
| 22:46 | kados | yep, 100% agree |
| 22:47 | Burgundavia | quick question about liblime.com. What is the difference between Koha ILS and Koha Network? |
| 22:47 | oh, and you are using images for those three links. Bad! | |
| 22:47 | kados | Koha Network is a service we provide for auto-updates to Koha |
| 22:47 | look more carefully :-) | |
| 22:48 | those images are covering text :-) | |
| 22:48 | Burgundavia | you are right |
| 22:48 | kados | :-) |
| 22:49 | Burgundavia | but the koha network link doesn't take you anywhere different from the koha link |
| 22:49 | your #network target is busted | |
| 22:49 | kados | yep, true enough |
| 22:49 | in fact, the koha page is being rewritten | |
| 22:49 | and isn't done yet | |
| 22:49 | Burgundavia | ah, figured |
| 22:49 | how many people is liblime? | |
| 22:50 | kados | we're 4 fulltimers and a slew of sub-contracters |
| 22:50 | Burgundavia | ah |
| 22:50 | hmm, can I rip your webpage apart some more? | |
| 22:50 | :) | |
| 22:51 | kados | hehe |
| 22:51 | sure | |
| 22:51 | Burgundavia | below the fugly purple tabs, on the main page there are some links to Solutions | News | Company |
| 22:51 | it looks really odd | |
| 22:52 | like a subset of the tabs | |
| 22:52 | kados | which it is :-) |
| 22:52 | Burgundavia | but koha is a solution you offer, yet koha is in a higher tab than solutions |
| 22:52 | plus you have solutions in the lower right | |
| 22:52 | kados | yep |
| 22:53 | yep | |
| 22:53 | Burgundavia | contact and company are almost one |
| 22:53 | plus you have a link to the company in the footer | |
| 22:53 | kados | yep |
| 22:53 | and? | |
| 22:53 | Burgundavia | oh, and news is already there |
| 22:53 | the links "feel oddly placed" | |
| 22:54 | can't really describe it any better | |
| 22:54 | kados | :-) |
| 22:55 | Burgundavia | one last thing: the three boxes (koha, newsletter and open source ils) all look just subtly different |
| 22:55 | the koha is a fairly plain style, the zebra one pretty busy and the icons in the oss ils box all have subtly different styles | |
| 22:56 | but I will say this: the design is quite good, just there are a few minor polish points | |
| 23:51 | saul | ois ? |
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