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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:56 | thd | kados: are you there? |
| 13:21 | kados | thd: hi there |
| 13:22 | thd | kados: i spent all night the night before last only because my system s too slow and not enough RAM confirming that nothing that I had done had introduced this double encoding problem |
| 13:23 | kados: before my test I considered it likely that I and not Koha was responsible | |
| 13:25 | kados | what was your conclusion? |
| 13:27 | thd | kados: tumer's conclusion is that Zebra or Koha Zebra and not SQL Koha is the problem |
| 13:27 | kados: Are the Afognak records in Zebra for the server that I am using? | |
| 13:28 | kados | thd: no |
| 13:28 | thd: that's a rel_2_2 system | |
| 13:28 | thd | kados: but do you not have Zebra configured for storage there? |
| 13:29 | kados | on that server, yes |
| 13:29 | but not for afognak | |
| 13:29 | thd | kados: well something strange is happening |
| 13:29 | kados | thd: show me |
| 13:30 | thd | I am finding the example that I showed tumer |
| 13:31 | kados: http://library.afognak.org/cgi[…]detail.pl?bib=154 | |
| 13:31 | kados | ok |
| 13:31 | where is the problem there? | |
| 13:31 | ahh, I see it now | |
| 13:31 | Valerie | |
| 13:32 | thd: have you tried manually editing that record? | |
| 13:33 | thd | kados: I never touched that record to my knowledge |
| 13:33 | kados | thd: the encoding problem is in the record itself |
| 13:33 | thd: when you attempt to edit it, you'll see that | |
| 13:34 | thd | kados: That is the worrying thing but you can see the same record on my own system |
| 13:34 | one moment | |
| 13:34 | kados | but I would suspect that I ruined encoding on import |
| 13:35 | or in my pre-processing script | |
| 13:35 | before I blamed Koha | |
| 13:37 | thd | kados: tumer said he had a record with the same author in his system with the same double encoding problem |
| 13:38 | kados: on my X-windows system the fonts do not display correctly for the result set but they do display correctly for the individual record | |
| 13:40 | kados: If you had used the bulkmarkimport.pl script which I supplied and told you to use you we should have had identical import processing between my system and Afognak | |
| 13:40 | s/mark/marc/ | |
| 13:41 | kados | I think I used it |
| 13:41 | I can't remember now | |
| 13:41 | it's possible my mysql for that install isn't set up to have utf8 tables | |
| 13:41 | thd | kados: if I remember our discussion at the time well you had used it |
| 13:41 | kados | my new installs do, but that one may be a layover |
| 13:43 | thd | kados: that only is an issue for indexing and not for the actual string of byte content stored |
| 13:44 | kados: the odd thing is that tumer has reported the same problem | |
| 13:46 | kados: this affects all the accented characters that I had noticed on Afognak but I had presumed the font problem for displaying in UTF-8 was the factor | |
| 13:47 | kados: if you have not seen this occurring elsewhere then we have to ask tumer for how he can repeat it reliably | |
| 13:48 | kados | I don't think it happens elsewhere |
| 13:49 | thd: http://wipoopac.liblime.com | |
| 13:49 | thd: take wipo for example | |
| 13:50 | thd: they have lots of accented chars that are just fine | |
| 13:50 | thd | kados: tumer did have a problem with the record editor not clearing $9 for adding or changing an authorised heading to a bibliographic record but you would have to ask him the details which he had been discussing with hdl to know the problem more clearly |
| 13:50 | \ | |
| 13:56 | kados: yes, I do not see anything worse than the font problem which cannot be seen on MS Windows according to tumer | |
| 13:57 | kados: are the WIPO records being stored in Zebra? | |
| 13:57 | kados | no |
| 13:58 | but the tables are set to utf8 | |
| 13:58 | also, I believe when I did afognak, i did not fully understand encoding | |
| 13:58 | and how to manipulate it in perl | |
| 13:58 | but by the time I did wipo's current installation, I had perfected it (mostly :-)) | |
| 13:59 | thd | kados: Yet I almost completely replaced the import script that you supplied with good code which I later committed |
| 14:00 | kados | right |
| 14:01 | thd | kados: maybe it was careless kittens on the keyboard or path name priority |
| 14:02 | kados: I do not think that MySQL would do this no matter what the MySQL encoding was set to it would only keep you from finding the records | |
| 14:03 | kados: was MARC::File:XML doing double encoding at one time? | |
| 14:03 | kados | yes, because I had the wrong parser installed |
| 14:04 | thd | kados: could that have been the problem for Afognak? |
| 14:04 | kados | yes |
| 14:04 | thd | and for tumer |
| 14:06 | kados: The problem was that MARC::File::XML had made some silly change and you had to update XML::SAX or what was it that needed updating? | |
| 14:06 | kados | well ... |
| 14:07 | it's complicated | |
| 14:07 | best refer to my email on perl4lib | |
| 14:07 | emails | |
| 14:07 | http://www.mail-archive.com/pe[…]org/msg01006.html | |
| 14:07 | all is explained there | |
| 14:13 | thd | kados: thanks, i will refer tumer to More Fun as the possible solution to his manifestation of the problem. |
| 14:13 | kados | :-) |
| 16:46 | hehe | |
| 16:46 | chris: check out the proof of concept faceted search results on zoomopac when you get a chance | |
| 16:47 | chris | ill go look now |
| 16:48 | ohh thats pretty cool | |
| 17:28 | slef | chris: hehe... you don't want Italy to win? |
| 17:31 | chris | my wife does, she lived there for 6 months |
| 17:31 | I dont really mind who wins, as long as they play well | |
| 20:24 | slef | <link rel="alternate" type="application/rdf+xml" title="slef-reflection in RSS 1.0"><xsl:attribute name="href"><xsl:value-of select="/rdf:RDF/rss:channel/@rdf:about" /></xsl:attribute></link> |
| 20:24 | oops |
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