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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 13:51 | owen | kados: you around? |
| 14:08 | kados | owen: am now |
| 14:09 | owen | What's the status of the 'you did not specify any search criteria' thing? |
| 14:09 | do I need to take that out of the template until we can get a working substitute? | |
| 14:10 | kados | hmmm |
| 14:10 | afaik it happens for quite a few searches | |
| 14:10 | but it's related to the 'searchdesc' var not getting populated, right? | |
| 14:10 | it's probably not difficult to fix, it would just take a bit of time | |
| 14:12 | owen | Since it's a very visible bug I'm inclined to take it out of the NPL templates until it can be fixed. |
| 14:12 | But I don't want to lose sight of it :) | |
| 14:12 | kados | right :-) |
| 14:20 | owen | I'm going to Bug it. Should I be using 'branch 2.2' as the version? |
| 14:22 | kados | yea |
| 02:35 | osmoze | hello |
| 02:36 | mason | quiety quiet here :) |
| 02:36 | hi ozmoze | |
| 02:36 | osmoze even | |
| 02:37 | its the start of a loong weekend here in NZ | |
| 02:37 | osmoze | not here :( |
| 02:39 | mason | im having my first beer to celebrate :) |
| 02:45 | osmoze | hoooooo, don't speak about beer...it's very hard to forget my beer of yesterday with my coffee |
| 03:59 | pierrick | paul, HTML::Template->new() : Cannot open included file javascript/members.js : file not found. at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Template.pm line 2178., referer: http://plegall:8080/cgi-bin/ko[…]s/members-home.pl |
| 04:37 | hdl | pierrick: as-tu toujours le problème ? |
| 04:40 | pierrick | as-tu rajouté le fichier ? je ne le vois pas CVS |
| 04:40 | (salut hdl) | |
| 04:40 | hdl | salut pierrick |
| 04:41 | pierrick | (je bosse sur la 2.2 du coup, parce que sur HEAD, sans javascript, on ne peut pas valider le formulaire, oh misère :-/) |
| 04:42 | hdl | pierrick: le member.js doit se trouver dans le includes du koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/default/en/ |
| 04:42 | pierrick | ??? |
| 04:42 | hdl | Ca doit être un oubli d'owen ou autres au moment du passage de default à prog. |
| 04:43 | pierrick | pierrickplegall:~/dev/koha/head$ find . -name members.js |
| 04:43 | ne retourne rien | |
| 04:53 | btoumi | hello |
| 04:53 | i'm bruno from SAN OP | |
| 04:54 | chris | hello bruno |
| 04:54 | btoumi | not in bed (from paul that is near me) |
| 04:54 | ? | |
| 04:55 | chris | not yet |
| 04:55 | btoumi | hi chris (it's paul) |
| 04:55 | chris | paul will understand, its rugby season |
| 04:55 | btoumi | ah;, ok |
| 04:55 | chris | super 14 week 11 .. getting near to finals time |
| 04:55 | btoumi | OM won 3-0 yesterday. Soccer, semi final cup for Coupe de France |
| 04:55 | chris | paul, ill finish my speeches off tomorrow and email them to you |
| 04:56 | btoumi | great, thnx |
| 04:57 | chris | congrats to OM :) |
| 04:58 | pierrick | Hi chris, btoumi and paul |
| 04:59 | chris | je ne comprends pas |
| 04:59 | btoumi | salut pierrick moi c bruno de ouest provence je suis avec paul |
| 04:59 | chris | :-) |
| 05:01 | pierrick | bonjour Bruno, j'avais compris :-) |
| 05:02 | btoumi | ok |
| 05:16 | bye everybody | |
| 05:19 | chris | bye bruno |
| 05:20 | btoumi | bye chris and good night |
| 06:42 | paul | hello world, i'm back |
| 07:51 | kados | hi paul |
| 07:51 | paul | hi kados |
| 07:51 | 'morning | |
| 08:11 | kados | morning thd |
| 08:20 | pierrick | hi kados |
| 08:20 | hi thd | |
| 08:21 | paul, I have a problem with members.j | |
| 08:21 | members.js | |
| 08:21 | to validate a "add a member" form | |
| 08:24 | thd | hello pierrick and kados |
| 08:24 | hdl | So Who has sthg to declare about member.js |
| 08:24 | hello kados and thd. | |
| 08:25 | thd | hello hdl |
| 08:28 | pierrick | hdl, paul must have members.js somewhere, he would have commited without testing the page :-) |
| 08:28 | s/would/wouldn't/ | |
| 08:29 | I suppose he only forget to add to CVS | |
| 08:31 | hdl | weird enough... I donot have any cvs message talking about members.js. |
| 08:31 | paul | pierrick: you're right. It's fixed |
| 08:34 | pierrick: do you know docuwiki well ? | |
| 08:34 | => how to create a "level 2 list" ? | |
| 08:34 | (a sublist below a main list) | |
| 08:35 | pierrick | paul, I know Dokuwiki very well :-) (using it at least) |
| 08:35 | * level1 | |
| 08:35 | * level1.1 | |
| 08:35 | * level1.2 | |
| 08:35 | * level2 | |
| 08:35 | paul | with 2 more spaces ? |
| 08:35 | pierrick | yp |
| 08:35 | yes | |
| 08:36 | paul | much more easier than previous wiki. |
| 08:37 | pierrick | :-D |
| 08:38 | about bug 659 (age limitations of borrower categories not taken into account), I propose to fix it only on HEAD | |
| 08:39 | The bug is minor and old, they can wait for 3.0 | |
| 08:39 | paul, as 2.2 release maintainer, do you agree? | |
| 08:39 | paul | yep |
| 08:42 | pierrick | go go go :-) |
| 08:45 | kados | pierrick: I agree |
| 08:45 | pierrick: is the wiki.koha.org site ready in your opinion? | |
| 08:46 | pierrick: if so, can you announce it on koha-devel and request that the old one forward to the new address? | |
| 08:46 | pierrick | kados, yes of course |
| 08:46 | we've lost some bits of information but not very much | |
| 08:47 | because once the temporary migration was made, someone added information in the temporary wiki and other added info in the old wiki | |
| 08:48 | kados | ahh |
| 08:49 | i suppose we could request that person add to the new wiki, eh? :-) | |
| 08:49 | paul | kados: I hope it's ready : I use it only !!! |
| 08:49 | pierrick | but much more informations have been added to the new wiki |
| 08:49 | kados | ok, good |
| 08:49 | so we need to make an unambiguous announcement | |
| 08:50 | and also have the maintainer of the old wiki forward the url to the new wiki if at all possible | |
| 08:50 | pierrick | kados, can you turn on registration on the wiki? (so that our logins are displayed next to our commit messages) |
| 08:50 | kados | yes |
| 08:52 | paul | pierrick: ++ |
| 08:52 | (I searched where I could identify myself so many minuts ! ) | |
| 08:55 | kados | pierrick: how do I turn it on? |
| 08:55 | pierrick: I see: | |
| 08:55 | $conf['openregister']= 1; | |
| 08:58 | pierrick | let me see in my local copy... |
| 08:58 | kados | thx |
| 09:00 | pierrick | $conf['useacl'] = 1 |
| 09:03 | kados | pierrick: ok, it's added |
| 09:03 | hi tumer | |
| 09:04 | pierrick: but it gives an error :/ | |
| 09:04 | pierrick: User authentication is temporarily unavailable. If this situation persists, please inform your Wiki Admin. | |
| 09:04 | pierrick | yes, I've seen |
| 09:05 | 1. cd conf; cp acl.auth.php.dist acl.auth.php | |
| 09:05 | 2 cp users.auth.php.dist users.auth.php | |
| 09:05 | 3. chmod a+w users.auth.php | |
| 09:06 | (that's enough) | |
| 09:06 | kados | pierrick: done |
| 09:08 | pierrick | $ cat users.auth.php |
| 09:08 | thank you Joshua :-) | |
| 09:09 | paul | kados & al : i've recieved tumer registration to KohaCon (2/3 may) 2 hours ago. |
| 09:10 | kados | pierrick: it's working |
| 09:10 | paul | kados: am I missing someone to devWeek : I thought we would be 16+Annaw, and I see 16 INCLUDING annaW. |
| 09:10 | kados | hmmm |
| 09:10 | paul | that's very important, as 15 means 3 cars while 16 means 4 ! |
| 09:11 | kados | right |
| 09:11 | where is the list posted? | |
| 09:11 | paul | (on the new wiki !) |
| 09:13 | kados | paul: I'm going to edit the list slightly |
| 09:13 | paul: to add affiliations | |
| 09:14 | paul: do you have a company name? | |
| 09:14 | paul | I'll add a page in the next minuts with some ideas for devWeek. |
| 09:14 | no, i'm just myself ;-) | |
| 09:16 | kados | paul: tumer is not on that list |
| 09:16 | paul | right, but it's registration is only for 2/3 for instance |
| 09:17 | kados | ahh, I'm looking at the wrong list |
| 09:17 | paul | (i've asked by pm if he comes to devWeek too, but no answer yet) |
| 09:17 | tumer | hi all |
| 09:17 | kados | tumer: you are joining us at the dev week right? |
| 09:17 | tumer: what is the name of your library again? | |
| 09:17 | paul | hi tumer. |
| 09:17 | tumer | I have to choose one or the other, wha do you suggest |
| 09:18 | paul | the devWeek, for sure ! |
| 09:18 | kados | tumer: I suggest the dev week |
| 09:18 | tumer: we could really use your skills :-) | |
| 09:18 | tumer | OK být can not stay all week |
| 09:18 | kados | no problem |
| 09:18 | paul | how long could you stay ? |
| 09:18 | tumer | say 3 days |
| 09:19 | kados | tumer: let me know _which_ three days, and we'll make sure to have Zebra the priority for those three days |
| 09:19 | tumer | kados: Near East university Grand library |
| 09:20 | kados | tumer: thanks |
| 09:20 | tumer | kados: and its in Cyprus not Turkey |
| 09:20 | kados | ahh ... my bad :/ |
| 09:21 | paul | tumer: May 8th is closed in France. So it would be better to come for 9th-11 for example. |
| 09:21 | tumer | kados: I'll try and make the first 3 days |
| 09:22 | why I am closing aout repeteadly | |
| 09:22 | paul | tumer: 8-10 will be OK. |
| 09:22 | which is your closest international airport ? | |
| 09:23 | tumer | Larnaca |
| 09:24 | I have to fly to Paris and then travel to Marseiles. My plane will arrive Paris around 15:00 so I may come on 7th Sunday | |
| 09:25 | Is there a problem with IRC its throwing me out | |
| 09:25 | kados | tumer: which IRC client are you using? |
| 09:25 | paul | tumer: cheapest, although longest seems to use lufthansa : larnaca => athens=> franckfort=> marseille (9AM => 18:45) |
| 09:25 | tumer | IceChat |
| 09:26 | paul | no, alitalia is the best : |
| 09:26 | larnaca => roma => marseille (9:15 => 14:20) | |
| 09:26 | 780€ | |
| 09:26 | tumer | via roma sounds interesting |
| 09:27 | paul | return trip : |
| 09:27 | ALITALIA De: Marseille (MRS) Départ: 06:20 10/05/2006 | |
| 09:27 | Classe Economique A: Larnaca (LCA) Arrivée: 17:55 10/05/2006 | |
| 09:28 | tumer | Thanks paul I'll look into it |
| 09:40 | paul | kados: http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=devweek |
| 09:41 | kados | paul++ |
| 09:41 | paul: I posted a mail to koha-devel regarding the dev week | |
| 09:42 | paul: but this document is better :-) | |
| 09:42 | paul | when did you posted this mail ? |
| 09:42 | kados | earlier today |
| 09:43 | paul | did not reach me yet |
| 09:43 | kados | :/ |
| 09:47 | paul | pierrick: you've commited something that requires Date::Calc |
| 09:47 | we used DateManip for 2.2, but want to get rid of it because it's VERY VERY VERY slow. | |
| 09:48 | do you think Date::Calc is a good replacement ? we've been told that the default date package for Perl is the best to use | |
| 09:48 | (question asked on fr.comp.os.perl by me 3 months ago) | |
| 09:48 | pierrick | I didn't take into account performance problem, sorry |
| 09:49 | paul | it's a very important problem, as date calcs are in the middle of circulation |
| 09:49 | pierrick | the function is used is very simple, so I can replace it by core functions if you prefer |
| 09:49 | paul | and it's the module that requires the best perfs |
| 09:58 | hdl | article mis en ligne. |
| 10:28 | kados | paul: still there? |
| 10:28 | paul | for sure |
| 10:29 | kados | paul: just recieved a call from NBBC |
| 10:29 | paul: it seems that the numbering formula: | |
| 10:29 | Vol. {X}, No,{Y} | |
| 10:29 | X isn't increased as Y changes | |
| 10:30 | they have: | |
| 10:30 | X Y | |
| 10:30 | Add: 1 1 | |
| 10:30 | Once 6 1 | |
| 10:30 | when > 999 9 | |
| 10:30 | loop is 2 0 | |
| 10:31 | set back to 1 1 | |
| 10:31 | last value 294 2 | |
| 10:31 | paul | X should increase once every 6 issues. |
| 10:31 | kados | correct |
| 10:31 | but it doesn't | |
| 10:31 | subscription length is '6' | |
| 10:32 | paul | mmm... how many issues did you "recieve" already ? |
| 10:32 | kados | could that be the problem? |
| 10:32 | 'the loop is for instance:' 2 | |
| 10:32 | paul | mmm... probably : when you reach end of subscription, you can't change the status of the "waited" issue anymore. |
| 10:32 | but koha should told you this | |
| 10:32 | (& add a button to "renew subscription") | |
| 10:33 | kados | well ... when 'end of subscription' is reached, koha asks if you want to renew |
| 10:33 | I assume they answered 'yes' | |
| 10:33 | only two issues for this specific example | |
| 10:33 | paul | so, the subscription should en in 6 more issues. |
| 10:33 | kados | Vol 294, No. 6 |
| 10:34 | paul | s/end/en/ |
| 10:34 | kados | Vol 295, No. 1 |
| 10:34 | are listed correctly in serial-issues.pl? | |
| 10:34 | strange | |
| 10:36 | paul | if you have an access to their DB, you could look in issues table if there isn't something hidden |
| 10:43 | kados | paul: ok, I confirm it's a problem |
| 10:43 | I created a new serial | |
| 10:44 | set beginning value for X to 294 and for Y to '6' | |
| 10:44 | (ie, the first issue they keep track of is the last one in a series) | |
| 10:44 | when issue 6 is set to 'arrived' | |
| 10:45 | next issue should be Vol 295 no 1 | |
| 10:45 | but in fact it's still Vol 294 No 1 | |
| 10:45 | so X didn't update | |
| 10:45 | ha! | |
| 10:46 | when it gets to 294 No 5 | |
| 10:46 | next issue is 295 no 6 | |
| 10:46 | definitely a bug | |
| 10:46 | so it seems the only way to properly enter a subscription is to start with Vol X no 1 | |
| 10:46 | otherwise it fails | |
| 10:46 | paul: can you confirm the bug? | |
| 10:46 | if so, I'll file a bug report | |
| 10:48 | hdl: did you notice it before I mentioned it? | |
| 10:48 | hdl: or did you just now try it? | |
| 10:48 | hdl | You mentioned it months ago. |
| 10:48 | But I never had time to work on it. | |
| 10:49 | I think it is not a very simple bug. | |
| 10:49 | kados | right ... |
| 10:50 | I'll tell my client the simple workaround | |
| 10:50 | and file a bug report | |
| 10:50 | hdl | Filing a bug, you won't forget anymore ;) |
| 10:50 | kados | heh |
| 10:51 | paul | kados & hdl : ok, good analysis. I think it's not as complex to fix (just enable the library to fill the "inner loop" field. |
| 10:51 | kados | hdl: IMO, this is a very common kind of bug in Koha |
| 10:51 | paul: ahh ... yes that may fix it | |
| 10:52 | paul | the more complex will be to do something a library will understand & be able to deal with easily ! |
| 10:52 | kados | yep |
| 10:52 | serials are quite complex already :-) | |
| 10:55 | paul: shouldn't the inner loop always start as the same as 'begins with'? | |
| 10:55 | paul | no |
| 10:56 | let me explain : | |
| 10:56 | kados | ok, I don't understand, but I don't mind not understanding in this case ;-) |
| 10:56 | sure, you can explain | |
| 10:56 | paul | add 1 once every 12, start with 2006 |
| 10:56 | means you will have 12 times 2006 | |
| 10:56 | kados | right |
| 10:57 | paul | what we need is "OK, we have 12 times a year, but we BEGIN at the issue 4, so for the 1st year, we will have only 8" |
| 10:57 | kados | but I guess that just means 'begin each loop' with |
| 10:57 | paul | no, it's the value for the 1st issue. |
| 10:57 | and this value is repeated 12 times. | |
| 10:58 | where you want to repeat it only 8 times, because you start in the middle of a year | |
| 11:03 | kados | hmmm |
| 11:04 | the client has entered in several dozen serials with 'begins with' set incorrectly :/ | |
| 11:04 | it seems they have not choice but to re-enter them all manually | |
| 11:05 | in fact, I don't see what the purpose of 'begins with' is | |
| 11:05 | it seems redundent when you already have 'when more than' and 'set back to' | |
| 11:06 | paul | it's the 1st value to use. |
| 11:06 | nope. | |
| 11:06 | kados | but 'set back to' is always the same as 'begins with' |
| 11:06 | paul | it deals with the following case : |
| 11:06 | let me explain ;-) | |
| 11:06 | kados | ok :-) |
| 11:06 | paul | you begin in april. |
| 11:07 | so your serials will be : | |
| 11:07 | 2006-4, 2006-5, 2006-6 ... 2006-12 | |
| 11:07 | thus : | |
| 11:07 | begins with 4 | |
| 11:07 | when more than 12 | |
| 11:07 | set back to 1 | |
| 11:07 | for Y the fact that you begin in the middle of the year is correctly managed. | |
| 11:08 | kados | yes, for Y only though |
| 11:08 | paul | but for X it is not (due to the missing of inner loop) |
| 11:08 | kados | I see |
| 11:08 | but I still think inner loop could be the same as 'begins with' for Y | |
| 11:08 | or at least it could be calculated | |
| 11:08 | based on the values in the form | |
| 11:10 | paul | you may be right. |
| 11:10 | but that would be very hard to manage efficiently & without bugs ! | |
| 11:10 | the best would be to have the wizard katipo is working on... | |
| 11:10 | kados | yes, I agree |
| 11:14 | paul: IMO this is a very common bug in Koha | |
| 11:14 | paul: a feature is 'advertised' as working, when in fact, it does not work | |
| 11:14 | paul | what do you mean by "common" ? |
| 11:15 | kados | I mean there are many examples of similar bugs |
| 11:15 | to the client, it looks like 'begins with' works correctly | |
| 11:15 | paul | if the problem is not reported by anyone, it can't be fixed ! nobody reported this one (& I don't remember you already speak of this as hdl says) |
| 11:16 | kados | and there is no warning to say 'it doesn't work at all' |
| 11:16 | so your clients who use serials always start subscriptions with No. 1? | |
| 11:16 | paul | mmm... it's not "it doesn't work at all" => if you start your subscription at the beginning of a year, it works ! |
| 11:16 | kados | 'begins with' doesn't work |
| 11:16 | it only accepts one value | |
| 11:17 | paul | yes, it seems (although it's not because I told them to do like this !) |
| 11:17 | kados | so IMO it shouldn't allow entry of inproper values |
| 11:17 | paul | i disagree with you : it's really "begins with 2006", BUT "use this only 8 times, not 12 as usual" |
| 11:18 | kados | perhaps I'm missunderstanding the purpose of 'begins with' |
| 11:18 | I thought it was supposed to be used to tell Koha which issue the subscription is starting with | |
| 11:19 | ie, I'm starting with Vol. 245 No. 1 | |
| 11:19 | or I'm starting with Vol 245 No. 4 | |
| 11:19 | paul | then X start with 245. |
| 11:19 | kados | if it only accepts Vol. X No. 1 and not Vol X. No Y ...it should clearly tell the user that |
| 11:19 | it should not accept a Y value for 'begins with' other than 1 | |
| 11:20 | paul | except you have numbering highly more complex than this one ! |
| 11:20 | with X / Y and Z, each having it's own numbering formula | |
| 11:20 | kados | of course, but I only deal with one simple case |
| 11:20 | paul | i've already encountered tihngs like this : |
| 11:20 | kados | so for example, say I buy a new subscription, it will not start at issue #1 |
| 11:21 | most likely it will start in the middle of the year | |
| 11:21 | paul | X = year Y = quarter (from school pov : 1 is sept-> dec, 2 is jan->march), Z=month |
| 11:21 | kados | so Vol 230 #6 maybe |
| 11:21 | so do I 'lie' to Koha and say I started av Vol 230 #1? | |
| 11:21 | just to make sure that the numbering formula is correct? | |
| 11:21 | or do I wait until Vol 231 to start keeping track in Koha? | |
| 11:22 | (ie, 6 issues/months where the serial is not managed in Koha) | |
| 11:22 | (yes, that example is quite complex I agree) | |
| 11:23 | so for Koha 2.X, let's be unambiguous about it for 2.4 | |
| 11:23 | paul | they coud just create the subscription and then modify it (inner loop) |
| 11:23 | kados | 'begins with' ONLY WORKS FOR X values |
| 11:24 | paul | for example : 2006 #6 during creation |
| 11:24 | then modify the subscription & enter the correct inner loop that is set to 1. | |
| 11:24 | kados | inner loop in that example should be 6? |
| 11:24 | paul | if you have a monthly issue & are in july => set it to 12-6 |
| 11:24 | right ! | |
| 11:25 | as innerloop will grow until it reaches 12 (whereas 2006 will become 2007) | |
| 11:25 | (and innerloop be back to 1) | |
| 11:25 | kados | so IMO inner loop is always the same as 'begins with' for subscriptions with only X and Y |
| 11:25 | paul | you can't say this, because (at least in france), you often have ! |
| 11:25 | : | |
| 11:25 | N° 1-2006 | |
| 11:25 | so X & Y are inverted ! | |
| 11:25 | kados | ahh! |
| 11:26 | I didn't notice that case | |
| 11:26 | paul | no, the good solution is to let the librarian enter innerloop is (s)he want to start a subscription in the middle of a "year" |
| 11:27 | but it will be hard to explain clearly !!! | |
| 11:27 | kados | right ... I understand now |
| 11:27 | so temporary workaround is to modify inner loop | |
| 11:30 | paul | yep |
| 11:32 | kados | ok, called the client, they are happy with this solution |
| 11:32 | paul | great ! |
| 11:32 | kados | thanks paul! |
| 11:33 | paul | your welcome. |
| 11:33 | kados | for 2.4 IMO there should be a notice in red letters warning of this issue |
| 11:33 | at the very least, it should be in the help file | |
| 11:33 | paul | (would be easier to add the innerloop in form & find something explanatory) |
| 11:40 | kados | paul: do you plan to do this for 2.4? |
| 11:40 | paul | I did not, but now I may ;-) |
| 11:40 | (however, devWeek will happend before 2.4, so let's speak of it during devweek !!!) | |
| 11:42 | kados | ok |
| 11:49 | paul: we will have internet access for 100% certain at devweek, right? | |
| 11:49 | via wifi? | |
| 11:50 | paul | for sure we will have web access |
| 11:50 | kados | great |
| 11:50 | paul | via wifi or maybe without wifi too. |
| 11:50 | kados | ok |
| 11:50 | paul | we should have 2 16ports hubs |
| 11:51 | kados | paul: did tumer tell you what dates he will attend? |
| 11:51 | paul | & we will be inside a university, so something like 100MB+ network |
| 11:51 | (renater network) | |
| 11:51 | kados: no, he just spoke of arriving on sunday 7th | |
| 11:51 | but not sure | |
| 11:52 | kados | for groups ... |
| 11:52 | maybe one group for Zebra | |
| 11:52 | Tumer, Chris, Me, You? | |
| 11:52 | HDL and Pierrick maybe? | |
| 11:53 | paul | not me+hdl in the same group I think |
| 11:53 | kados | ahh |
| 11:53 | paul | I thought pierrick could work on installer |
| 11:53 | kados | will slef attend? |
| 11:53 | paul | he registered for paris |
| 11:53 | kados | ahh |
| 11:54 | slef: are you here? | |
| 11:54 | slef: will you be attending DevWeek in Marseille? | |
| 11:59 | paul: is there any way to generate a list of all current subscriptions in Koha? | |
| 11:59 | paul: a secret search perhaps? :-) | |
| 11:59 | paul | % |
| 11:59 | :-) | |
| 11:59 | kados | ahh ... |
| 11:59 | it works! | |
| 11:59 | great! |
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