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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:00 | kados | sec |
| 12:01 | so long as the templates in both head and npl have been updated to use the new syspref, yes | |
| 12:03 | paul_away | bye guys. |
| 12:03 | I'm away until next thursday. | |
| 12:04 | i'll read my mails but won't be on this chanel (except maybe on the evening) | |
| 12:04 | paul | kados: could you tell me where is you hotel In Paris ? |
| 12:04 | i have to reserve one too | |
| 12:04 | so, I could reserve the same as you | |
| 12:17 | ok, kados is not here :-( | |
| 12:17 | i'm leaving... | |
| 12:19 | kados | paul_away: back |
| 12:19 | paul_away | hehe... |
| 12:19 | i'm lucky ! | |
| 12:19 | kados | :-) |
| 12:20 | paul | could you just remind me your hotel in Paris ? |
| 12:20 | kados | the hotel in paris ... |
| 12:20 | unfortunately, only russ knows :-) | |
| 12:20 | as he made my arrangements :-) | |
| 12:20 | I will find out and email you tonight | |
| 12:20 | paul | great, thanks |
| 12:20 | kados | np |
| 12:37 | thd | kados: please check you email |
| 12:38 | s/you/your/ | |
| 12:40 | kados | thd: got it, thanks! |
| 13:47 | wow, owen, you're really nailing those bugs | |
| 13:48 | owen | Just some simple stuff that never got taken care of, or which have since been taken care of. |
| 13:48 | kados | that's great |
| 13:49 | I've got a very good feeling about 2.4 | |
| 13:49 | owen | I thought the bug squash was very successful. I hope we get lots of follow-through |
| 13:49 | kados | yea ... I'm planning on attacking my bugs later this week |
| 13:50 | owen | We need to also go through and reassign stuff that's assigned to missing people like pate and mwhansen |
| 13:50 | kados | yep |
| 13:51 | good point | |
| 13:52 | tumer | kados:One problem I'm having with MFX is that after a query the search term put on the result page is very weird. It looks in some other encoding than utf8 or iso. |
| 13:52 | oops where did the smiley come from sorry | |
| 13:53 | kados | hmmm |
| 13:53 | could it be transformed twice by mistake? | |
| 13:54 | my idea is just to transform it once, on its way into the database | |
| 13:54 | tumer | kados: I hav a utf8 database. Utf8 zebra, utf8 templates so I donno whats going on |
| 13:54 | kados | from there, everything is done in utf8 |
| 13:54 | so here is how i have been doing it | |
| 13:54 | tumer | kados yes. And the results are all correctly displayed but the search term |
| 13:55 | kados | ahh |
| 13:55 | I bet that is the font | |
| 13:55 | try changing the font in the template | |
| 13:55 | tumer | never thoght of that but does not do it with old version |
| 13:55 | kados | old version? |
| 13:55 | you mean before MFX? | |
| 13:56 | tumer | old MFX |
| 13:56 | kados | hmmm |
| 13:56 | tumer | have you tried any saerch with high ascii? |
| 13:57 | kados | you have MARC21 records? |
| 13:57 | tumer | yes |
| 13:57 | kados | and they are marc8 encoded before MFX? |
| 13:57 | (no, I've not tried with high ascii) | |
| 13:57 | tumer | well before they enter koha yes. In koha they are utf8 |
| 13:58 | kados | and how do you convert them to utf8? |
| 13:58 | during import? | |
| 13:59 | tumer | In the old method my char_decode does that very nicely |
| 14:00 | I checked everything in db char by char. All looks good. export them out and dump tehm all looks good. As soon as I start with MFX all conversion is OK but this new weird problem | |
| 14:01 | Oh all but some chars dont get converted with MFX as I said before | |
| 14:02 | It still could be windows problem but i have to sort this out. | |
| 14:04 | kados | hmmm |
| 14:04 | owen | So is a bug filed about the old Koha web page fixed because it was redesigned or invalid because the old site doesn't exist anymore? |
| 14:05 | kados | hehe |
| 14:05 | I'd say 'wontfix' | |
| 14:05 | tumer: we need to examine MARC::Charset to see if we can add the chars that aren't getting converted for you | |
| 14:05 | tumer: i will have time to work on this later in the week | |
| 14:06 | today I'm finishing up two migrations | |
| 14:06 | and shipping some servers off | |
| 14:06 | tumer | kados:I'll look into that as well |
| 14:07 | bye for now | |
| 16:08 | owen | chris: you around? |
| 16:09 | rach | hes at tech meetinmg 4 another hour or so |
| 16:12 | kados | they rach |
| 16:12 | hey even | |
| 16:12 | rach | hey |
| 16:13 | kados | :-) |
| 16:14 | owen | Mine never let me sit still long enough to do that |
| 16:15 | rach | he's not super keen |
| 18:08 | kados | hey chris |
| 18:10 | chris | cool |
| 21:05 | Jo | Russ: are you here. |
| 21:06 | can you look up www.library.org.nz please and see if our website is loading. Had another complaint that our website has been down for the last 3 days. | |
| 21:06 | chris | works for me from home jo |
| 21:06 | Jo | thanks Chris. |
| 21:07 | chris | joshua are u about? |
| 21:07 | Jo | I dunno whats happening - 2 completely seperate people complained |
| 21:07 | chris | do you know what isp's they are on? |
| 21:07 | Jo | no - but i shall ask next time! |
| 21:07 | chris | cool |
| 21:09 | Jo | Cjris: it wouldn't be loading a cached file for you would it? |
| 21:09 | chris | i did a search just to test |
| 21:09 | worked ok | |
| 21:09 | Jo | thanks. |
| 21:09 | chris | and i got walter to check |
| 21:10 | he is on a different isp to me | |
| 21:10 | Jo | ok. |
| 21:10 | cheers. | |
| 21:10 | coincidence | |
| 21:14 | chris | if may have been really slow jo, if lots of ppl were looking, and using up the bandwidth |
| 21:14 | if=it | |
| 21:14 | so they might have thought it was down | |
| 06:43 | tumer | thd:around? |
| 06:46 | thd | tumer: yes I am here |
| 06:46 | tumer | thd: thanks for the framework. I've commited a small script for interim use of remapping |
| 06:47 | thd:Regarding LC sorting my problem is with zebra | |
| 06:48 | May be due to windows platform sometimes it times out when there is too many updates in quee | |
| 06:48 | thd | tumer: your quite welcome. What is the name of the script file you committed? |
| 06:48 | tumer | thd:marc_rebuild_newframework |
| 06:49 | in head /misc | |
| 06:51 | thd: It is ofcourse much better that we use only one field for LC sorting after all the padding. I'll commit some script that does this | |
| 06:52 | thd | tumer: I have no good information about Zebra. I am still trying to fix things for 2.X and had a large gap of lost time at the end of last year. |
| 06:53 | tumer | thd:I'm not enquiring about zebra. All I'm saying is due to problems with it I decided to use LC sorting on 2 fields, but I believe you weer saying of |
| 06:53 | thd:combining them to one single field. Am I correct | |
| 06:53 | thd | tumer: I have at least tried to concentrate attention on some issues that would be carried over into 3.0. |
| 06:54 | tumer yes I suggested combining the two elements into a third subfield | |
| 06:55 | tumer | thd:are we have to have this 3rd field reflected in mysql db as well? |
| 06:55 | thd | tumer: I did not understand why two would be faster but id you actually find that two was faster? |
| 06:56 | tumer: well you can always add something to the Koha DB tables. | |
| 06:57 | tumer | thd: 2 is not faster.Definitely slower. It is zebra finding a looong word timeconsuming to sort and giving out Time-Out errors |
| 06:58 | thd:If I can sort that out than offcourse definitely sort on 1 field | |
| 06:59 | thd | tumer: The use of the existing mapped Koha DB columns is that chris had written code for Dewey sorting and searching. |
| 07:00 | tumer: searching by call number also expects Dewey numbers without padding. | |
| 07:01 | tumer: padding may solve the sorting problem but then a call number search many not match the Koha DB columns for LC call numbers. | |
| 07:01 | tumer | thd:Getting confused now:( |
| 07:02 | thd:I am talking about pure LC Call numbers Alpha.Decimal.Alphanumeric | |
| 07:05 | thd | tumer: If you search by call number in the OPAC in Koha 2.X it searches the call number columns specified in my bibliographic framework revision. |
| 07:33 | pierrick | are misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl and misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra_idx.pl still relevant? |
| 07:33 | I would like to make zebra work on my HEAD copy | |
| 07:48 | hdl | pierrick: I havenot tested these last two weeks. But last time I did, it was. |
| 07:49 | pierrick | which one? rebuild_zebra.pl or rebuild_zebra_idx.pl? |
| 08:36 | hdl | pierrick: both of them. But rebuild_zebra_idx is faster. (Sorry Was on sthg else) |
| 08:39 | pierrick | rebuild_zebra_idx.pl creates many warnings/errors. I've used rebuild_zebra.pl and it only fails at the very end :-/ But, My HEAD copy seems to work better (I can add orders to my basket now). |
| 08:40 | At the end of rebuild_zebra.pl, the error I had was "ZOOM error 224 "ES: immediate execution failed" (addinfo: "only XML update supported") from diag-set 'Bib-1'" | |
| 08:45 | hdl | pierrick: rebuild_zebra_idx requires a new directory called biblio created in your koha/zebra dir. |
| 08:46 | pierrick: do you have one ? | |
| 08:47 | pierrick | yes I do |
| 08:58 | hdl | pierrick: is it not filled when launching rebuild_zebra_idx ? |
| 09:04 | pierrick | How could I know zebra is filled? Zebra is a blackbox for me |
| 09:23 | hdl | pierrick: you can have a look at zebra dir and you should have mf files which are big |
| 09:23 | hi paul | |
| 09:23 | paul | hello all |
| 09:24 | hdl | To me, I had to tell zebra on which base I commited things. |
| 09:24 | zebraidx -d databasename | |
| 09:25 | That commited changes to my base. | |
| 09:25 | If not so, I had problems. | |
| 09:31 | pierrick | hello paul |
| 09:31 | paul | hello pierrick |
| 09:32 | pierrick | hdl, I have *.mf files, but there are not very "big" |
| 09:32 | the biggest is 13KB | |
| 09:32 | (with EMN dataset) | |
| 09:32 | hdl | too small. IMHO |
| 09:36 | kados | morning owen |
| 09:36 | hi all | |
| 09:36 | owen | Hi |
| 09:42 | paul | pierrick: my dataset with EMN is something like 100MB ! |
| 09:42 | pierrick | hi kados & owen |
| 09:43 | paul, yes that's the size of my MySQL database, but one day I'll make this ***** zebra work (maybe... I hope) | |
| 09:48 | why are currencies manageable on acqui/acqui-home.pl? The management page isn't admin/currency.pl? | |
| 09:48 | (I'm trying to simplify acquisition screens) | |
| 09:50 | kados | pierrick: I'm not sure that rebuild_zebra works |
| 09:51 | pierrick | kados, :-) |
| 09:51 | kados, I'm feeling tired :-/ | |
| 09:51 | kados | pierrick: yep, still lots to do before zebra's integrated |
| 09:52 | pierrick | kados & tumer, do we have an estimated percentage of integration today? |
| 09:52 | kados | pierrick: I'd say we're about 65% there ... |
| 09:52 | pierrick: just a rough estimate :-) | |
| 09:53 | pierrick | OK, for me it means everything that touch biblio is broken |
| 09:53 | once you know it, you avoid some screens :-) | |
| 09:53 | kados | well ... as I envision it, a good way to play with zebra right now is the perl-zoom plugin |
| 09:53 | for rel_2_2 | |
| 09:53 | as it's mostly stable | |
| 09:54 | (stable as far as I know, it could use some testing) | |
| 09:54 | pierrick | kados, I've tried to use the plugin on 2.2 last friday and... couldn't make it work (I really thought it was not so hard to make work) |
| 09:55 | kados | really? |
| 09:55 | it works fine for me ... what did you have trouble with? | |
| 09:55 | pierrick | yep, maybe I'm underskilled? |
| 09:56 | trouble with export first, two exports did not produced the same result :-/ | |
| 09:56 | I suppose I had wrong versions of MARC::* modules. I updated them today from sourceforge CVS | |
| 09:58 | kados | pierrick: the instructions on kohadocs.org are almost a step-by-step |
| 09:58 | pierrick: I'd be surprised if they didn't work | |
| 09:59 | pierrick | at least they are not complete |
| 09:59 | I made you a remark last friday, don't remember which | |
| 10:00 | yes, it was about the export script was bugged on rel_2_2 | |
| 10:00 | kados | missing zebrasrv localhost:2100 I think |
| 10:00 | pierrick | (I commited a fix) |
| 10:01 | kados | ahh, yes the export.pl from HEAD is I think the right one |
| 10:01 | brb | |
| 10:01 | paul | I'm really not close to the soccer stadium. But have my window open. |
| 10:01 | pierrick | so, you have to modify kohadocs |
| 10:01 | paul | And we hear the OM supporters very well ! |
| 10:01 | (semi-final of french soccer cup since 1mn) | |
| 10:02 | "coupe de France" | |
| 10:02 | If there is a goal, we should hear it ! | |
| 10:03 | pierrick | I would like a clarification about Koha terminology on acquisitions |
| 10:03 | paul | hmmm... |
| 10:03 | goal for OM ! | |
| 10:03 | (at 1st mn, we thought it was for the beginning of the match, but it was for the 1st goal !) | |
| 10:04 | 17seconds after the beginning of the match | |
| 10:04 | (for non-french ppl : OM = Olympique de Marseille) | |
| 10:04 | pierrick | When we say "add to order", it means "add to basket". In the database, an order is a basket line |
| 10:04 | paul | pierrick: there are things more important than Koha !!! |
| 10:04 | :-D | |
| 10:04 | pierrick | paul, you like soccer? |
| 10:05 | paul | yes. And you must know that it's IMPOSSIBLE to live in Marseille & not like soccer. |
| 10:05 | really ! | |
| 10:05 | pierrick | (happy not to live in Marseille, I hate soccer) |
| 10:05 | (I hate stupid supporters in fact) | |
| 10:06 | paul | at least you're not a PSG supporter. that's better hating soccer than supporting PSG :-D ) |
| 10:06 | pierrick | (the one that destroy a gas station when their team loose a stupid match) |
| 10:07 | happy for this productive conversation about soccer, acquisitions? | |
| 10:08 | paul | kados &all, a good news : |
| 10:08 | Your project registration for Gna! has been approved. | |
| 10:08 | Project Full Name: OpenCataloger | |
| 10:08 | Project System Name: opencataloger | |
| 10:08 | Project page: /projects/opencataloger | |
| 10:08 | kados | paul: great! |
| 10:08 | pierrick | :-) Gna! is fast |
| 10:08 | kados | very fast it seems |
| 10:08 | paul | pierrick: + it has SVN support ! |
| 10:09 | kados | excellent |
| 10:09 | pierrick | paul, of course I know :-) |
| 10:09 | (use it every day... night in fact) | |
| 10:10 | paul | ToinS is working not as fast as a long-time Perl programmer, but what he does seems nice to me. I hope I could commit something next week |
| 10:10 | pierrick: is there somewhere a nice tutorial in french for svn ? | |
| 10:10 | (as i'm a real newbie) | |
| 10:11 | pierrick | the reference is the http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 10:11 | personaly I own the french paper version | |
| 10:14 | but SVN works very like CVS | |
| 10:15 | svn co module; vi module/file.pl; svn status module; svn diff module; svn commit module/file.pl | |
| 10:15 | what you can do more is : svn move; svn merge; svn copy (create branch) | |
| 10:45 | paul | hurlement au vélodrome... |
| 10:45 | 3-0 for Marseille ! |
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