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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:04 | tim | Is owen around? |
| 12:04 | owen | Yes |
| 12:04 | tim | Thanks again for the quick fix yesterday. |
| 12:04 | owen | Sure |
| 12:05 | tim | Our call numbers weren't showing on that page, but I remembered how kados said you got it working before, so I made the change. |
| 15:48 | owen | kados: are you around? |
| 15:48 | kados | owen: yep |
| 15:48 | owen: what's up? | |
| 15:48 | owen | I finally figured out that stupid error with the opac-dictionary |
| 15:49 | kados | yea? |
| 15:49 | what was it? | |
| 15:49 | owen | I felt like smacking myself when I realized what the problem was. |
| 15:49 | kados | heh |
| 15:49 | owen | The javascript is writted to reference numbered form fields. The npl templates have the fields in a different order, so it wasn't working |
| 15:50 | I re-wrote it to reference field names instead of numbers, and I'm testing it now. | |
| 15:50 | kados | cool |
| 15:50 | brb | |
| 15:54 | mmmm ... cookie :-) | |
| 15:55 | owen | That's the problem with working in Chauncey... If I get a snack attack and I didn't come prepared I'm screwed. |
| 16:01 | Hmm... still some bugs to work out I see... the headings are getting pasted in as URL-encoded for some reason... | |
| 16:03 | "Butterflies%20in%20literature" instead of "Butterflies in literature" | |
| 16:13 | kados | huh |
| 16:13 | isn't that in the template var? | |
| 16:13 | I remember seeing that in there | |
| 16:13 | ESCAPE HTML or something | |
| 16:13 | owen | It's the string that Javascript is sending back to the parent window from the dictionary popup |
| 16:13 | kados | ahh |
| 16:13 | owen | Wait... maybe you're right. |
| 16:16 | Yeah.... though I don't know why it changed that aspect of its behavior when I changed the javascript. | |
| 16:25 | chris | those web4lib guys love to talk about google |
| 16:28 | owen | ? |
| 16:29 | chris | the web4lib mailing list, the only threads that get any traction are the ones arguing about google |
| 16:29 | owen | :) Is it the libraries-are-better-than-google argument? |
| 16:30 | chris | it always degenerates into that |
| 16:30 | starts as something like is your opac discoverable by google | |
| 16:31 | kados | hehe yea |
| 16:32 | morning chris | |
| 16:32 | I need a nap | |
| 16:32 | owen | Too many cookies? |
| 16:32 | kados | hehe yea, probably :-) |
| 16:34 | chris | is there such a thing as too many cookies? |
| 16:40 | owen | kados: give the updated dictionary popup a try when you get a chance and let me know if you run into any problems. |
| 16:41 | kados | owen: will do |
| 16:44 | owen: hmmm, doesn't seem to work | |
| 16:44 | owen: anything to update asside from opac-dinctionary.tmpl? | |
| 16:45 | owen | opac-search.tmpl as well |
| 16:46 | kados | ahh, yes, working now |
| 16:47 | thanks! | |
| 16:47 | really, that dictionary search should work much differently IMO | |
| 16:48 | it should fill the search with the correct values for an authority search | |
| 16:48 | maybe it could be done behind the scenes | |
| 16:48 | with a hidden input or something | |
| 16:48 | I need to give that some thought | |
| 16:49 | but right now I'm gonna head out for a bit | |
| 16:49 | be back soon | |
| 21:32 | thd: are you around? | |
| 21:40 | thd | kados: yes, I am here |
| 21:40 | kados: I had tooo much sleep to recover earlier today | |
| 21:44 | kados | :-) |
| 21:47 | thd | kados: last night I added the University of Alaska, Fairbanks Z39.50 server to my targets, but it times out every time. Many of the best targets of all timeout from lack of maintenance or excessive load. |
| 21:52 | kados | too bad |
| 21:56 | thd | kados: there is a union catalogue for Alaska but Z39.50 access requires an OCLC account. |
| 21:57 | kados: I had already added more Canadian targets. They are at least close enough for some records. | |
| 22:01 | kados | ok |
| 22:40 | thd | kados: do you have some MARC::Record code for the following equivalent: |
| 22:40 | my $copylabel; | |
| 22:40 | if (scalar(@952t) > 1 && $952t > 1) { | |
| 22:40 | $copylabel = 'c.' . $952t; | |
| 22:40 | } | |
| 22:40 | }if ($050a && $050b) { | |
| 22:40 | $952k = join(' ', $050a, $050b, $copylabel); | |
| 22:40 | } elsif ($090a && $090b) { | |
| 22:40 | $952k = join(' ', $090a, $090b, $copylabel); | |
| 22:40 | } | |
| 22:40 | } elsif ($852h && $852i) { | |
| 22:40 | $952k = join(' ', $852h, $852i, $copylabel); | |
| 22:40 | } | |
| 22:40 | kados: show me some example code to do that and save the record | |
| 22:41 | s/\}if/if/ | |
| 22:42 | kados: are you still there? | |
| 22:48 | kados | thd: are all your MARC records in a single file? |
| 22:48 | or are they in separate files? | |
| 22:49 | thd | kados: they will be in a single file and in an array |
| 22:50 | kados | ? |
| 22:50 | thd | kados: the array will be written to file |
| 22:50 | kados: redundancy | |
| 22:50 | kados | are you calling the php script from perl? |
| 22:51 | it would make more sense in that case to handle the record modification on the fly in the perl and discard the array | |
| 22:51 | thd | kados: there will be a single file with all the records and a delimited record file with the records and more information to be added to the records |
| 22:52 | kados: the files except the log files are written by PHP currently and through Thursday :) | |
| 22:53 | kados | :-) |
| 22:53 | that's gonna be challanging then | |
| 22:53 | you'll have to open both files and try to merge the data | |
| 22:54 | how do you plan to match the record and the array? is there a unique identifier? | |
| 22:54 | thd | kados: Perl calls PHP. PHP writes to file. A new Perl script opens delimited file and updates record then writes to a new MARC only file. |
| 22:55 | kados: the delimited file includes the captured MARC record. | |
| 22:56 | kados: There is another file written by PHP with only the captured records as a fail safe. | |
| 22:56 | kados | where is the array> |
| 22:57 | thd | kados: the array is created in PHP and then written as a delimited file then recreated in Perl when the delimited file is read with a second Perl script. |
| 22:58 | kados | so the second perl script reads the array and the marc file? |
| 22:58 | how does it know which array goes with which marc file? | |
| 22:59 | thd | kados: the MARC records are all embedded in the delimited file as one column. There is an extra file with only MARC records just in case of badness. |
| 23:03 | kados: there is no need to match the delimited file created by PHP with the MARC record only file created by PHP but if you really wanted to they would have the first record in the MARC only file would match the first row in the delimited file etc. | |
| 23:03 | kados: However, the delimited file contains the records already. | |
| 23:04 | s/records/MARC records/ | |
| 23:05 | kados: If processing the delimited file failed within the time constraint then we still have the MARC records only file as a failsafe. | |
| 23:06 | kados | if you don't mind my saying so, this sounds like a nightmare :-) |
| 23:06 | thd | kados: why, It seems very simple for me? |
| 23:07 | kados: or it does, given that I am fully awake :) | |
| 23:08 | kados: It may not be the best possible solution but I think it will work just fine for now and if it does not we still have all the MARC records in a file. | |
| 23:09 | kados | ok ... sounds good |
| 23:09 | so long as I get the MARC records tonight or tomorrow so I have a couple of days to load them in | |
| 23:10 | thd | kados: I have plenty of experience working with files like this. I am short on experience with MARC::Record because it did not exist when I was writing applications for working with MARC records. |
| 23:10 | kados: I just need some example code for MARC::Record. | |
| 23:12 | kados: I could learn it properly but I can manage with some example code within the time constraint without pouring over examples embedded in Koha and elsewhere :) | |
| 23:13 | kados | thd: http://search.cpan.org/dist/MARC-Record/ |
| 23:13 | thd: some good stuff there | |
| 23:13 | the POD docs are better than anything I could show you | |
| 23:14 | thd | kados: I was hoping that you could show me an example for the pseudo code that I had posted. |
| 23:15 | kados | I'm a little tied up at the moment |
| 23:15 | thd | kados: no problem. sorry, that I was not awake yet in mid-afternoon. |
| 23:16 | kados: I really needed the sleep for my thinking cap to work again :) | |
| 23:16 | kados | I know what you mean :-) |
| 23:18 | thd | kados: My thinking cap does work very well when I am fully rested, however, it had gone past the completely non-functional state for performing even the most trivial task by the previous night :) |
| 01:20 | Genji | Greetings all. |
| 02:14 | pierrick | hello #koha |
| 02:14 | is mason here? | |
| 03:02 | mason | hiya pierrick |
| 03:02 | i am here | |
| 03:19 | pierrick | hi mason |
| 03:20 | why do you commit a new feature on HEAD in "npl" template? | |
| 03:22 | mason | because i am stupid |
| 03:22 | :) | |
| 03:23 | it was a mistake | |
| 03:23 | i meant to commit them to rel_2_2 | |
| 03:24 | new features should use the PROG templates? | |
| 03:24 | pierrick | yes mason, the only official template currently on HEAD is "prog" |
| 03:26 | mason | thanks, i will fix this by removing my commits files from HEAD and commiting some new ones in prog |
| 03:27 | pierrick | OK :-) thank you mason |
| 03:27 | mason | s/commits/commited |
| 03:27 | i am still learning cvs | |
| 03:27 | pierrick | :-) |
| 03:28 | ask help if you need it, I will be pleased to give some | |
| 04:00 | mason | ta, thanks for chatting |
| 08:58 | pierrick | salut Antoine |
| 09:01 | ToinS | salut ! |
| 09:05 | pierrick | tu t'en sors avec le MARC editor |
| 09:05 | ? | |
| 09:05 | ToinS | euh... oui... |
| 09:06 | je reprends bcp de chose dejà faite. | |
| 09:06 | pierrick | tu fais ça en XUL finalement ? |
| 09:06 | ToinS | XUL + AJAX |
| 09:06 | pierrick | ??? |
| 09:06 | ToinS | l'interface est en XUL |
| 09:06 | tous les webservices en AJAX | |
| 09:06 | pierrick | L'intérêt de XUL était selon mes connaissances limitées (pour le moment) de ne pas utiliser des technologies instables comme AJAX |
| 09:07 | tu fais du XUL alors, pas de l'AJAX | |
| 09:08 | tu rafraichis tes listes via des RDF qui sont regénérés par un appel de webservice SOAP ou XMLRPC, c'est ça? | |
| 09:08 | ToinS | disons que je fais du XUL mais que je me sers de xmlHTTPrequest |
| 09:08 | pierrick | OK, bon, il faut que je lise mon bookin sur XUL, avant la KohaCon, de préférence |
| 09:09 | ToinS | je suis debutant la dessus aussi... |
| 09:09 | pierrick | comment tu trouves ça de construire des interfaces en XUL ? |
| 09:09 | par rapport aux interfaces HTML? | |
| 09:09 | ToinS | c'est facile et pratique ! |
| 09:09 | pierrick | (là je suis en train de reprendre complètement l'interface des budgets, et le HTML impose de nombreuses lignes de code :-/) |
| 09:09 | ToinS | en html tout est très vite limité |
| 09:10 | pierrick | en XUL, tu as un widget pour choisir une date dans un joli calendrier? |
| 09:11 | ToinS | je ne sais pas... je n'ai pas eu a me poser cette question. |
| 09:14 | pierrick | tu seras avec nous pour la semaine des développeurs (8 au 12 mai) |
| 09:14 | ? | |
| 09:14 | ToinS | oui ! |
| 09:14 | pierrick | cool :-) |
| 09:14 | ToinS | j'habite marseille... donc autant en profiter |
| 09:15 | pierrick | et tu n'as pas de voiture? |
| 09:15 | ToinS | a priori non |
| 09:15 | pierrick | c'est vrai que tu es étudiant |
| 09:15 | ToinS | eh oui... :) |
| 09:15 | pierrick | (j'ai eu ma première voiture pendant ma première année de boulot) |
| 10:01 | owen | For a perfect example look at the problem of deleting a duplicate reserve |
| 10:36 | kados: what do you know about the new barcode and label printing stuff? | |
| 10:43 | kados | owen: well, I sponsored it :-) |
| 10:44 | owen | Then I'm talking to the right guy :) |
| 10:44 | How does it relate to the old barcode generator? | |
| 10:45 | kados | it replaces it |
| 10:45 | it adds the ability to print barcodes and spine labels simaltaneously | |
| 10:46 | yea, template could use some tinkering | |
| 10:46 | looks like mason didn't commit the updatedatabase stuff | |
| 10:46 | which would be needed before you could test it on your box | |
| 10:46 | owen | I was just about to ask if it required updatedatabase |
| 10:47 | kados | yea ... lemme get you the sql you'll need, should be pretty painless |
| 10:48 | owen | Are the menu options across the top the steps in the process? (1. label options, 2. add labels, 3. web preview, 4. generate pdf) ? |
| 10:49 | kados | yep |
| 10:49 | first you pick the type | |
| 10:49 | then you add items | |
| 10:49 | then you do a preview | |
| 10:49 | then you print a pdf | |
| 10:49 | sql sent | |
| 10:50 | you can just run that manually in the sql monitor on whatever machine you're working on (101 still having auth probs?) | |
| 10:50 | owen | Got it |
| 10:50 | Only with HEAD | |
| 10:50 | kados | ahh |
| 10:50 | man, that's strange | |
| 11:08 | tim | Hey kados and owen. I think I found a bug in one of our templates. |
| 11:08 | I checked and it's in the NPL template too. | |
| 11:09 | owen | What's the scoop? |
| 11:09 | tim | line 41 of catalogue/detail.tmpl needs </form> at the end. |
| 11:10 | and the TMPL_VAR name="biblionumber" should be "bibid" | |
| 11:10 | Double check my work of course. | |
| 11:14 | owen | But I think the biblionumber thing is okay. You're talking about line 41 still right? |
| 11:15 | tim | Yeah |
| 11:16 | I wouldn't get any item info unless I changed it to bibid | |
| 11:17 | owen | But still missing the form tag right? |
| 11:17 | tim | Yeah. |
| 11:18 | owen | I think the form tag is the only problem |
| 11:18 | tim | When I click on edit items, I don't get any item information, but if I go to edit items from the edit records screen, I get the information. |
| 11:19 | That's what I had to change to get it so the Edit Items button worked in details.pl?bib=nnnnn | |
| 11:20 | What I was trying to do was make it work the same as when you click on Save Bibliographic Record and go to Items in the marc edit screen. | |
| 11:21 | Because edit items didn't work from detail | |
| 11:21 | owen | I've committed the corrected version |
| 11:22 | tim | Was the bibid thing right or am I missing something? |
| 11:23 | owen | When I click the 'Edit Items' button in the corrected version, the URL it sends me to is '/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/additem.pl?bibid=16595' |
| 11:24 | The form field /name/ is bibid. It's just the template variable that is named biblionumber | |
| 11:24 | i.e. the form field /value/ | |
| 11:30 | tim | Mine comes up with "Items for (Record#)" at the top and no item information for the original item. |
| 11:31 | Unless I change biblionumber to bibid | |
| 11:34 | Isn't it supposed to show the title and record number at the top and item info for the items that are already in the record? | |
| 11:35 | Like it does when you edit items after editing marc? | |
| 11:35 | It also doesn't add any records when I try to add it. | |
| 11:37 | I mean it doesn't add any items to the record. | |
| 11:39 | owen | Honestly I don't know what is going wrong. Even without the closing form tag the form works fine for me. It still takes me to the right screen |
| 11:40 | tim | it's taking me to the page, but not with the right info. Did you check it on our system to see what I'm talking about? |
| 11:40 | kados | tim: so what's going on? |
| 11:41 | tim: this was working a few days ago right? | |
| 11:41 | tim | I think the main problem is I'm terrible at explaining what's going on. |
| 11:41 | Could be. It was jut brought to my attention when I got here today. | |
| 11:42 | kados | tim: so is it that you can do everything from MARCdetail but not everything from detail? |
| 11:42 | hey shedges | |
| 11:42 | tim | The cataloger's gone for a while, so I can't ask her if it was working before. |
| 11:42 | Yeah. Edit Items doesn't work from detail. | |
| 11:42 | kados | shedges: how are things in the big city? |
| 11:42 | shedges | hey kados |
| 11:42 | kados | tim: if they work from MARCdetail I'd say that's a good temporary workaround |
| 11:43 | until we resolve whatever the bug is | |
| 11:43 | shedges | kados: busy -- did you see the OPLIN 4cast? |
| 11:43 | kados | shedges: yea, that your work? |
| 11:44 | tim | I noticed that from MARCdetail, it uses bibid, so when I changed it in detail, it seemed to work. |
| 11:44 | I'm just wondering if that was the right thing to do. | |
| 11:44 | kados | interesting |
| 11:44 | shedges | kados: nope, just my idea |
| 11:44 | kados | cool |
| 11:44 | owen | OPLIN 4cast? |
| 11:45 | shedges | www.oplin.org/4cast/index.php |
| 11:45 | put it in your Live Bookmarks! | |
| 11:45 | kados | woo hoo, wordpress |
| 11:46 | shedges | yep -- saved the day! |
| 11:46 | tim | owen says that it's the way it should be and he'd know a whole lot more about it than I do. But for some reason it doesn't work for me without the change. |
| 11:46 | kados | we're using it for our newsletter too |
| 11:46 | tim: that's truly bizzar | |
| 11:47 | bizarre even :-) | |
| 11:49 | tim: have you changed detail.tmpl recently? | |
| 11:50 | when I view source on the detail page I see: | |
| 11:50 | <form action="acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl" method="get"><input type="hidden" name="oldbiblionumber" value="16607" /><input type="submit" class="submit" value="Edit Record" /></form> | |
| 11:50 | <form action="acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl" method="get"><input type="hidden" name="oldbiblionumber" value="16607" /><input type="hidden" name="op" value="duplicate" /><input type="submit" class="submit" value="Duplicate Record" /></form> | |
| 11:50 | <form action="acqui.simple/additem.pl" method="get" /><input type="hidden" name="bibid" value="16607" /><input type="submit" class="submit" value="Edit Items" /></form> | |
| 11:50 | <form action="/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl" method="get"><input type="hidden" name="op" value="delete" /><input type="hidden" name="bibid" value="100609" /><input type="submit" class="cancel" value="Delete Record" onclick="confirm_deletion(); return false;" /></form> | |
| 11:50 | I assume it's that 'Edit Record' button that's causing trouble | |
| 11:50 | tim | Yup. I added the </form> at the end of line 41 |
| 11:51 | kados | Edit Record works fine |
| 11:51 | looks like Edit Items doesn't though | |
| 11:51 | tim | Yup. I was thinking the biblionumber should be changed to bibid because that's how it works from MARCdetail |
| 11:51 | kados | hmmm |
| 11:51 | lemme check the script | |
| 11:52 | yea, additem.pl seems to want bibid | |
| 11:52 | my $bibid = $input->param('bibid'); | |
| 11:53 | owen | It /is/ passing bibid |
| 11:53 | ...based on what kados pasted above. | |
| 11:53 | "<input type="hidden" name="bibid" value="16607" />" | |
| 11:53 | kados | and edit items works fine from MARCdetail |
| 11:53 | lemme find that form | |
| 11:54 | <div id="controls"><form action="/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl" method="get"><input type="hidden" name="oldbiblionumber" value="16607" /><input type="submit" class="submit" value="Edit MARC" /></form> <form action="/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/additem.pl" method="get"><input type="hidden" name="bibid" value="100609" /><input type="submit" class="submit" value="Edit Items" /></form> <form name="duplicate"><h4>Duplicate</h4> using <select name="Frameworks" size | |
| 11:54 | tim | It's passing "bibid" but the number isn't the bibid. |
| 11:54 | kados | right |
| 11:55 | it's probably the itemnum | |
| 11:55 | tim | It's passing biblionumber in place of the bibid |
| 11:56 | kados | huh, here's the template: |
| 11:56 | <form action="acqui.simple/additem.pl" method="get" /><input type="hidden" name="bibid" value="<!-- TMPL_VAR name="biblionumber"-->" /><input type="submit" class="submit" value="Edit Items" /></form> | |
| 11:56 | so what happens if we chage that to bibid | |
| 11:56 | tim | I just checked with one. It's passing 16258 when it should be passing 100260. |
| 11:56 | That will work kados | |
| 11:57 | kados | that seems to have done it |
| 11:57 | so owen ... | |
| 11:57 | on your box you can pass in biblionumber and it works? | |
| 11:57 | tim | select * from marc_biblio where bibid=100260 shows biblionumber=16285 |
| 11:57 | kados | right |
| 11:58 | tim | Nope. I have to change biblionumber to bibid to get it to work. |
| 11:58 | In line 41 | |
| 11:58 | kados | I'm just wondering how this one slipped past ... ie, whether owen can pass in biblionumber to get it working |
| 11:58 | owen | The 'Edit Items' button works fine for me from detail.tmpl. This is on 101 with fresh CVS from this morning. |
| 11:59 | kados | weird |
| 11:59 | it uses biblionumber |
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