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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 16:09 | kados | thd: check for a private msg |
| 17:15 | chris | gotta love ppl who quote jello biafra as their sig |
| 17:15 | so i dont think i got this fuzzy thing right | |
| 17:15 | kados | huh |
| 17:16 | chris | sorry, mike taylor's sig |
| 17:16 | for the fuzzy search im still getting | |
| 17:16 | kados | right :) |
| 17:16 | chris | Search OK 2 1 1+0 RPN: @attrset Bib-1 @attr 5=100 @attr 6=1 @attr 3=3 @attr 4=2 @attr 2=3 @attr 1=4 distant |
| 17:16 | which should be 5=103 | |
| 17:16 | i think | |
| 17:19 | russ | hi there |
| 17:20 | kados | woot |
| 17:20 | hi russ | |
| 17:20 | how many do we have? | |
| 17:20 | russ | well these are just the ones from the website |
| 17:20 | kados | right |
| 17:20 | russ | so about 10 so far |
| 17:20 | kados | cool |
| 17:20 | russ | i know that paul and ineo are doing a direct mail campaign |
| 17:20 | kados | if I get around to it I'll post a note to liblimes site |
| 17:21 | russ | and i expect most of the registrations to come from that |
| 17:21 | kados | and we're going to send some emails out too |
| 17:21 | russ | most of the ones from the website have been from africa |
| 17:21 | kados | tina's almost done with a graphic |
| 17:21 | interesting | |
| 17:21 | we've just been so swamped here this month | |
| 17:21 | we've got 5 migrations happening all at the same time :-) | |
| 17:22 | all of which go live before the end of April | |
| 17:22 | russ | wow! |
| 17:23 | kados | so I barely exist :-) |
| 17:30 | chris | the other question |
| 17:30 | kados | yep |
| 17:30 | chris | do we want to do truncation by default |
| 17:31 | kados | remind me what that does again? |
| 17:31 | chris | or do we want the user to type something* |
| 17:31 | ok | |
| 17:31 | current koha | |
| 17:31 | if i search map | |
| 17:31 | kados | got it |
| 17:31 | chris | ill find map, maps, mapping |
| 17:31 | kados | right |
| 17:31 | chris | with zebra, ill just find map |
| 17:31 | kados | right |
| 17:31 | chris | if i go map* tho |
| 17:31 | kados | it's a tough one |
| 17:32 | what we need | |
| 17:32 | is to make it an option | |
| 17:32 | like a checkbox or something | |
| 17:32 | chris | yeah |
| 17:32 | kados | so that NPL can decide what they want by default |
| 17:32 | during our next search meeting | |
| 17:32 | their feedback was really helpful | |
| 17:32 | since they use the system every day | |
| 17:32 | chris | cool |
| 17:32 | kados | they kinda know what to expect intuitively |
| 17:33 | I'd say the same goes for fuzzy searching | |
| 17:33 | if it could be a checkbox they coudl compare with and without | |
| 17:33 | to see which does a better job | |
| 17:33 | (is fuzzy another one of the ranking algorythms?) | |
| 17:34 | chris | dont think so |
| 17:34 | nope its not | |
| 17:34 | kados | cool |
| 17:35 | yea, so a checkbox might be nice | |
| 17:35 | also, it'd be sweet if we could have a selection box that included rank1, rank2, rank3 | |
| 17:35 | so we could compare how they differ | |
| 17:35 | chris | im not sure you can change that on the fly? |
| 17:35 | kados | and NPL could decide which to go with |
| 17:35 | no? | |
| 17:36 | ahh , does it require mapping in the pqf file? | |
| 17:36 | chris | i have no idea how you change the relevance ranking |
| 17:36 | kados | ahh ... there's a bit about it in the NEWS file |
| 17:36 | chris | you can just tell it to do it |
| 17:36 | kados | http://indexdata.dk/zebra/NEWS |
| 17:37 | there are a bunch of ranking algorithms in zebra | |
| 17:37 | chris | ill be happy if i can get this fuzzy to work |
| 17:37 | for a start | |
| 17:37 | kados | yea ... shelve the ranking for now |
| 17:37 | :-) | |
| 17:38 | chris | you might want to have a play with the latest pqf.properties and searchmarc.pm |
| 17:38 | its doing relevance ranking now | |
| 17:38 | kados | k ... will do |
| 17:38 | chris | i dont think it was before |
| 17:38 | kados | I thought it already was |
| 17:38 | chris | nope |
| 17:38 | kados | interesting |
| 17:38 | chris | im sure it is now tho |
| 17:38 | @attr 2=102 | |
| 17:38 | kados | so what was it doing before? |
| 17:38 | chris | is being set |
| 17:38 | kados | ie, what is kohatest.liblime.com 's relevance ranking? |
| 17:39 | chris | it could have been doing it default |
| 17:40 | but by adding the /relevant | |
| 17:40 | its now setting @attr 2=102 | |
| 17:40 | for the search | |
| 17:40 | you can try it with or without the /relevant .. and see if the order changes | |
| 17:41 | kados | have you changed collection.abs lately? |
| 17:41 | chris | it does for me |
| 17:41 | lemme check | |
| 17:41 | kados | (before I reindex) |
| 17:42 | cuz I need to merge those changes into record.abs if so | |
| 17:42 | chris | nope |
| 17:42 | only that melm 942$c Material-type,Material-type:w | |
| 17:42 | which i think you had already? | |
| 17:42 | kados | yep |
| 17:42 | k, I'm reindexing | |
| 17:42 | chris | you shouldnt need to |
| 17:43 | kados | well, I already scraped the db |
| 17:43 | it only takes about 5 minutes now | |
| 17:43 | chris | ahh then you will :-) |
| 17:43 | cool | |
| 17:43 | the /relevant does a make a different | |
| 17:43 | kados | zebraidx is crazy fast |
| 17:43 | chris | difference even |
| 17:43 | kados | cool |
| 17:43 | maybe it'll do everything NPL wants :-) | |
| 17:43 | that would rock :-) | |
| 17:44 | I'm gonna grab a drink while this index runs | |
| 17:44 | bbiab | |
| 18:05 | chris | so if im reading this right |
| 18:05 | $p->option(record => content_of("/tmp/record.xml")); | |
| 18:06 | we do need to pass the whole record | |
| 18:14 | kados | yea |
| 18:14 | I suspected that | |
| 18:23 | chris | hey, what the??? |
| 18:25 | kados | did it go and delete everything? :-) |
| 18:25 | chris | naw nothing |
| 18:25 | still gettting | |
| 18:25 | an error, ill figure it out, but now i gotta go do something else, ill be back looking into it in a bit | |
| 18:29 | kados | cool |
| 18:29 | thd: check pmesg | |
| 18:33 | so when you get back, do I need to get rid of the 'relevance' ranking option to use the new relevance rank? | |
| 18:33 | http://kohatest.liblime.com/cg[…]ha/opac-search.pl | |
| 18:33 | search on 'the civil war' in interesting | |
| 18:33 | s/in/is/ | |
| 18:34 | definitely different ranking than before | |
| 18:34 | chris | no |
| 18:34 | kados | but still, the first record isn't 'the civil war' like NPL expects |
| 18:34 | chris | relevance doesnt do anything |
| 18:34 | ie, relevance passes nothing through | |
| 18:34 | kados | k |
| 18:35 | chris | so if you choose relevance, it wont sort by anything else |
| 18:35 | which means that now we have the /relevant it will come back relevance ranked | |
| 18:35 | kados | search on 'Tango' doesn't pull up that record first |
| 18:35 | chris | title or keyword? |
| 18:35 | kados | title |
| 18:36 | at least it's on the first page :-) | |
| 18:36 | chris | http://kohatest.liblime.com/cg[…]tail.pl?bib=53677 |
| 18:36 | that has tango twice | |
| 18:36 | in title | |
| 18:36 | once in 246 and once in 245 | |
| 18:36 | which makes it more relevant the one that just has tango once | |
| 18:37 | that appears to be how it works | |
| 18:37 | kados | yea |
| 18:37 | that definitely makes sense | |
| 18:37 | but probably as the second relevance consideration | |
| 18:37 | chris | you could try seeing if you could change the relevance |
| 18:37 | kados | with proximity being first |
| 18:38 | huh, I wonder if I add the word tango like 10 times to the record | |
| 18:38 | if it would come up first :-) | |
| 18:39 | chris | i bet it would, if you put it in the 246 field :) |
| 18:39 | owen | Great, now we're search-engine spamming our MARC records! |
| 18:39 | kados | hehe |
| 18:40 | mainly just testing to see how the ranking algo works :-) | |
| 18:42 | now interestingly, that same search on NPL's current catalog | |
| 18:42 | only has 18 results | |
| 18:42 | I wonder why gloria used it as an example | |
| 18:42 | chris | i bet its searching less fields on the current koha |
| 18:43 | title how we have it set up,searches a lot more with zebra | |
| 18:46 | kados | well , there's some history here :-) |
| 18:46 | gloria's known for complaining that a search returns like 100 pages of results | |
| 18:46 | so i would have expected all of her examples to do that on the old koha | |
| 18:46 | chris | ahh |
| 18:48 | kados | bbiab, gonna head to the gym |
| 19:03 | chris | holy crap it worked |
| 19:07 | rach | wow joshua is actually not on irc :-) |
| 19:07 | chris | heh |
| 21:00 | kados | chris: got it working? |
| 21:00 | sorry, took a long dinner :-) | |
| 21:00 | chris | no worries |
| 21:00 | sure did | |
| 21:00 | kados | nice |
| 21:00 | chris | if you update to the latest Biblio.pm and Search.pm |
| 21:00 | kados | k |
| 21:00 | chris | then try a delete |
| 21:01 | if it throws a server error, edit the url and change the bibid= to biblionumber= | |
| 21:01 | kados | heh |
| 21:01 | chris | and then it oughta delete |
| 21:01 | kados | k, I'll give it a shot |
| 21:01 | chris | (template issue to fix) |
| 21:01 | kados | yep |
| 21:01 | is it a template issue for head or for rel_2_2? | |
| 21:02 | hmmm | |
| 21:02 | well I'm not actually running the plugin | |
| 21:02 | so none of the templates are really working | |
| 21:03 | grrr | |
| 21:04 | chris | rel_2_2 |
| 21:04 | i cant see that the delete will have actually worked in rel_2_2 anyway | |
| 21:04 | addbiblio.pl expects biblionumber, it gets bibid | |
| 21:06 | kados | so you don't expect it will work for the plugin? |
| 21:06 | chris | yeah it shold if you edit that url |
| 21:06 | kados | k |
| 21:06 | chris | im running it in the plugin |
| 21:06 | kados | I'm gonna get the plugin going real quick |
| 21:07 | chris | ack |
| 21:07 | see irma's email? | |
| 21:07 | want me to respond to that? | |
| 21:07 | kados | yea |
| 21:07 | chris | will do |
| 21:16 | email away | |
| 21:20 | kados | thx |
| 21:21 | chris | it should work for head too (the delete) i havent tried it though |
| 21:25 | kados | well, head is pretty broken at the moment |
| 21:25 | chris | yeah |
| 21:28 | kados | chris: did you copy over head versions of the tempaltes too or just the scripts for the plugin? |
| 21:29 | (and why is Amazon.pm required? was it throwing an error with the rel_2_2 version/) | |
| 21:32 | chris | i didnt touch templates |
| 21:32 | or scripts | |
| 21:32 | the only thing i changed was Search.pm and Biblio.pm | |
| 21:33 | so it should be the same instructions as setting up the plugin was before | |
| 21:34 | i just added a get_xml_record to Search.pm | |
| 21:34 | that hands back an xml rep of the data, given a biblionumber | |
| 21:35 | which we can then use in Biblio.pm to get a record to delete | |
| 21:35 | so get_record you get a MARC::Record get_xml_record, you get the xml that zebra retursn | |
| 21:36 | kados | ahh ... cool |
| 21:36 | and that is how you're doing deletions? | |
| 21:36 | (I'm writing a script to handle the plugin) | |
| 21:36 | (hence my question about Amazon, template, etc.) | |
| 21:38 | chris | ahh right |
| 21:39 | so far i havent changed any templates | |
| 21:39 | not in recent memory anyway :-) | |
| 21:39 | the search ones will need to be changed | |
| 21:40 | as will the marcdetail.pl as it passes the wrong variable to addbiblio.pl on delete | |
| 21:41 | detail.tmpl too | |
| 21:41 | so both moredetail.tmpl and detail.tmpl in the default templates | |
| 21:42 | to work with the addbiblio.pl thats in head (ie that uses zebra) | |
| 21:42 | kados | maybe we need a plugin systempref :-) |
| 21:47 | chris: could you double-check this. I think these are the only files that need to be copied over: | |
| 21:48 | MODULES: | |
| 21:48 | Biblio.pm, Context.pm, SearchMarc.pm, Amazon.pm, Review.pm, Search.pm | |
| 21:48 | INTRANET: | |
| 21:48 | addbiblio.pl, additem.pl, detail.pl, MARCdetail.pl, ISBNdetail.pl | |
| 21:48 | OPAC: | |
| 21:48 | opac-detail.pl, opac-MARCdetail.pl, opac-ISBDdetail.pl | |
| 21:48 | chris | looks right |
| 21:48 | kados | then modify addbiblio and additem scripts to grab the right template |
| 21:48 | (or maybe just create a symlink from cataloguing to acqui.simple, whaday think?) | |
| 21:49 | chris | that might work |
| 21:49 | if symlinks are allowed in the apache conf | |
| 21:49 | kados | the edit moredetail and detail to use the right variable |
| 21:49 | well, if they're doing a symlinked koha to begin with I assume they are | |
| 21:51 | chris | damnit |
| 21:51 | im sure this was working just before | |
| 21:54 | 2 secs | |
| 21:55 | ah ha | |
| 21:56 | the latest Biblio.pm (just committed) is the one to use | |
| 22:04 | slef | russ: hello? |
| 22:04 | russ | hi slef |
| 22:04 | slef | I've edited the screen.css, but the copy on the site hasn't changed. Do I need to release it somehow? |
| 22:04 | russ | two secs let me look |
| 22:06 | yep ok what you need to do is check the box next to the file name | |
| 22:06 | and then hit the notify button | |
| 22:06 | and it will send a request for me | |
| 22:06 | slef | I wondered if that was it. Does the tutorial call it triggering? |
| 22:07 | russ | yes |
| 22:07 | slef | Why different jargon? |
| 22:07 | russ | no idea |
| 22:07 | it predates my time with katipo and kea | |
| 22:07 | slef | Cool. Thought I was being stupid again. |
| 22:07 | chris | the live site lives on a different machine, triggering scp's it to that machine |
| 22:07 | russ | but we could have used the word publish or update |
| 22:07 | chris | only some users can trigger, others can only notify |
| 22:08 | russ | there you go |
| 22:08 | kados | chris: my plugin script seems to have worked like a charm |
| 22:08 | chris: I'm reindexing now | |
| 22:08 | slef | How can I track my file trigger requests? |
| 22:08 | chris | so you might see notify, i might see trigger (you can set up privileges on a dir by dir basis) |
| 22:08 | kados | chris: sometime today or tomorrow we should discuss directory locations for the plugin |
| 22:08 | chris | slef, see your email address? |
| 22:09 | click on that | |
| 22:09 | kados | chris: I'm assuming an actual production system would have the zebradb on a separate partition |
| 22:09 | slef | no, I don't see my email address at the moment. |
| 22:09 | kados | bbiab |
| 22:09 | chris | ahh you might not have permissions to do that too |
| 22:09 | i see modified by | |
| 22:09 | and ur email under that | |
| 22:10 | slef | ah, by the file? got it |
| 22:10 | russ | triggered now |
| 22:10 | chris | that tells you the history of the file |
| 22:11 | slef | it's a bit "mystery meat navigation" that |
| 22:11 | chris | so you can see your trigger request, and then that russel triggered |
| 22:11 | sure is, we are in the process of a UI overhaul | |
| 22:11 | russ | slef : yep it sure is |
| 22:11 | slef | ok... can I see a list of my/all recent changes? |
| 22:12 | russ | two secs |
| 22:12 | drop down menu top right | |
| 22:12 | http://koha2.edit.katipo.co.nz/kaka/findFiles.cgi | |
| 22:12 | ah it doesnt do by user though | |
| 22:13 | slef | thanks - that drop-down menu doesn't work for me ;-) |
| 22:13 | russ | interesting |
| 22:13 | slef | koha2.edit.katipo.co.nz doesn't have script execute permission, which I guess that uses as there's no submit button |
| 22:14 | boogie! http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-valid[…]ss&usermedium=all | |
| 22:14 | logbot: have a botsnack | |
| 22:15 | russ | woo - nice work slef |
| 22:15 | thanks for updating the css | |
| 22:15 | slef | hrm, 1 or 2 more nigglies |
| 22:15 | when you fix the UI, please put something useful in the <title> | |
| 22:16 | navigating back multiple pages is a bit hit-and-miss atm | |
| 22:17 | russ | huh? |
| 22:17 | why is that | |
| 22:17 | ? | |
| 22:17 | slef | they are all titled Kea: koha2 |
| 22:18 | no easy way to pick between them in the history | |
| 22:18 | russ | ah right |
| 22:19 | cool thanks for the feedback | |
| 22:20 | slef | is it OK if I put a background-color on the header? AIUI, image users should just get the image instead |
| 22:21 | russ | good idea |
| 22:25 | slef | strangxajxo! |
| 22:29 | ok, I can't see why that doesn't work... it's not taking the colour | |
| 22:31 | ho hum, now's not the time | |
| 22:34 | kados | chris: still around? |
| 22:34 | chris: indexing is done | |
| 22:34 | chris: http://opactest2.liblime.com/ | |
| 22:35 | chris: for some reason I'm getting some errors, none of the searches are working | |
| 22:35 | [Tue Mar 28 19:36:22 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] no records found, referer: http://opactest2.liblime.com/ | |
| 22:35 | [Tue Mar 28 19:36:45 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] QUERY : dc.title all /relevant "john" at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/modules/C4/SearchMarc.pm line 250., referer: http://opactest2.liblime.com/c[…]ha/opac-search.pl | |
| 22:36 | 19:38:25-28/03 zebrasrv(3) [request] Search OK 0 1 1+0 RPN: @attrset Bib-1 @attr 5=100 @attr 6=1 @attr 3=3 @attr 1=4 @attr 4=2 @attr 2=102 the | |
| 22:36 | 19:38:25-28/03 zebrasrv(3) [log] term="the" nn=0 type=rank,w=34,u=4 count=0 | |
| 22:36 | 19:38:25-28/03 zebrasrv(3) [log] user/system: 0/0 | |
| 22:36 | 19:38:25-28/03 zebrasrv(3) [request] Sort OK - (1)->1 | |
| 22:37 | so oddly, KOha's reporting that sort failed, but looks like zebra things it worked | |
| 22:37 | am I forgetting to change something in opac-search.tmpl or something? | |
| 22:39 | chris | hmm dont think so |
| 22:39 | it shouldnt be sorting unless you told it to sort by title or something tho? | |
| 22:39 | ahh | |
| 22:40 | you might need to edit the opac-search.tmpl and put in the <option value="">Relevance</option> bit | |
| 22:40 | but that shouldnt stop results being found | |
| 22:40 | kados | wft, can't find anything in yaz-client either |
| 22:41 | something strange going on here ... I indexed these records, ran commit operation | |
| 22:41 | hmmm | |
| 22:41 | index files are huge | |
| 22:42 | I'm stumped | |
| 22:43 | what the heck is going on here | |
| 22:43 | chris | itd be nice to have a command like status |
| 22:43 | that tells you how many records are in the collection etc | |
| 22:43 | but thats by the by | |
| 22:44 | kados | yea |
| 22:44 | Z> list_all | |
| 22:44 | Connected to : localhost:2100/kohaplugin | |
| 22:45 | I don't get it | |
| 22:45 | chris | weird |
| 22:46 | kados | I ran: |
| 22:46 | zebraidx init | |
| 22:46 | zebraidx create kohaplugin | |
| 22:47 | zebraidx -g iso2709 -d zebraplugin update records -n | |
| 22:47 | wait ... did a commit before that last one | |
| 22:47 | then another commit | |
| 22:47 | then zebrasrv localhost:2100 | |
| 22:47 | chris | and it appears to have no records? |
| 22:47 | can u try bulkmarcimporting in a couple? | |
| 22:48 | kados | ahh ... I found it |
| 22:48 | chris | what was it? |
| 22:48 | kados | -d zebraplugin should be -d kohaplugin |
| 22:48 | heh | |
| 22:48 | chris | doh |
| 22:48 | of course | |
| 22:48 | kados | I wonder if I can just change my config file |
| 22:48 | yea, I'll bulkmarcimport in a bit | |
| 22:49 | yep, that did it | |
| 22:49 | chris | cool |
| 22:50 | kados | huh ... so maybe we don't even need to 'create' |
| 22:50 | chris | dunno |
| 22:50 | i seem to remeber it not working if we didnt | |
| 22:51 | but then, its hard to know, since we were flailing around a bit :-) | |
| 22:51 | kados | hehe |
| 22:52 | chris | if we can verify this delete works, i think its just making some template changes (to do the boolean and fix the delete) plus some more fixes to SearchMarc.pm |
| 22:52 | and we are good to go | |
| 22:53 | kados | ok, I"ll give it a shot |
| 22:54 | you deleting from MARCdetail? | |
| 22:54 | what did I need to change in the template again? | |
| 22:54 | I got distracted by the index problem | |
| 22:56 | chris | just hit delete |
| 22:56 | and ull get a server error probably | |
| 22:56 | (after clicking ok to the javascript prompt) | |
| 22:56 | and a url that looks like | |
| 22:56 | kados | yep |
| 22:57 | http://kohatest2.liblime.com/c[…]delete&bibid= | |
| 22:57 | no id unfortunately | |
| 22:57 | strange | |
| 22:57 | chris | cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl?op=delete&bibid=33 |
| 22:57 | ohh | |
| 22:57 | hmm interesting | |
| 22:57 | what about from the normal view? | |
| 22:57 | kados | huh |
| 22:57 | [Tue Mar 28 19:59:30 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] Can't locate C4/Log.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/modules /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl line 30., referer: http://kohatest2.liblime.com/c[…]tail.pl?bib=58057 | |
| 22:57 | is that a new module in head? | |
| 22:57 | chris | must be |
| 22:58 | kados | I'll try copying it over |
| 22:58 | chris | better add that to the list |
| 22:58 | on the MARCdetail.pl page? | |
| 22:58 | Biblionumber : 33 With Framework | |
| 22:58 | does it have somethign like that? | |
| 22:58 | oh and what templates are u using? | |
| 22:59 | kados | rel_2_2 templates |
| 22:59 | npl | |
| 22:59 | chris | ah |
| 22:59 | i havent tried | |
| 22:59 | them | |
| 22:59 | kados | you're using default? |
| 22:59 | chris | you could try default |
| 22:59 | kados | damn it :-) |
| 22:59 | chris | we will want to fix the npl ones anyway |
| 23:00 | anyway | |
| 23:00 | this url | |
| 23:00 | yoursite/cgi-bin/koha/acqui.simple/addbiblio.pl?op=delete&bilionumber=33 | |
| 23:00 | will delete that record | |
| 23:00 | kados | k ... I'll try that |
| 23:01 | hmm | |
| 23:01 | 500 ing | |
| 23:01 | chris | sorry my typo |
| 23:01 | biblionumber | |
| 23:01 | kados | [Tue Mar 28 20:03:50 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] \tHTML::Template::new('HTML::Template', 'filename', '/home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/default/...', 'die_on_bad_params', 0, 'global_vars', 1, 'path', 'ARRAY(0x8de2d64)', ...) called at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Output.pm line 77 |
| 23:01 | chris | not bilionumber :) |
| 23:01 | kados | ahh |
| 23:02 | ahh ... need to edit addbiblio.pl | |
| 23:02 | and add that to the list | |
| 23:02 | chris | bibid ? |
| 23:02 | ohh the template path? | |
| 23:03 | kados | ahh ... so that means my symlink didin't work |
| 23:04 | # ls -l cataloguing | |
| 23:04 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root jmf 43 Mar 28 18:57 cataloguing -> /home/koha/plugin/rel_2_2/koha/acqui.simple | |
| 23:04 | wonder why it's not working | |
| 23:04 | chris | i think it is |
| 23:04 | thats just for the script isnt it | |
| 23:04 | and its finding the script | |
| 23:04 | kados | ha |
| 23:04 | I'm a dumbass | |
| 23:04 | chris | :) |
| 23:05 | the delete should just do a redirect anyway, not display a template | |
| 23:06 | you should all things going well end up at the catalogue search page | |
| 23:07 | kados | huh ... for some reason it's trying for the default |
| 23:07 | chris | it will do that |
| 23:07 | kados | [Tue Mar 28 20:08:17 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] HTML::Template->new() : Cannot open included file /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/default/en/cataloguing/addbiblio.tmpl : file not found. at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Template.pm line 1580 |
| 23:07 | chris | if it cant find the corresponding npl one |
| 23:07 | ie, it fails back to the defaul | |
| 23:07 | t | |
| 23:07 | kados | ahh |
| 23:09 | well ... I think it worked | |
| 23:09 | chris | zebra log will tell ya |
| 23:09 | if you see | |
| 23:09 | 15:06:29-29/03 zebrasrv(8) [request] EsRequest OK: Done ! | |
| 23:09 | kados | nopw, but we're close |
| 23:09 | [Tue Mar 28 20:08:17 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] HTML::Template->new() : Cannot open included file /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/default/en/cataloguing/addbiblio.tmpl : file not found. at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Template.pm line 1580 | |
| 23:09 | woops | |
| 23:09 | 20:11:40-28/03 zebrasrv(9) [request] EsRequest ERROR 224 only XML update supported | |
| 23:10 | chris | ah ha |
| 23:10 | get the latest version of Biblio.pm | |
| 23:10 | i fixed that | |
| 23:12 | kados | h |
| 23:12 | uh | |
| 23:12 | now I get: | |
| 23:12 | 20:15:03-28/03 zebrasrv(12) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 | |
| 23:12 | 20:15:03-28/03 zebrasrv(12) [warn] cannot delete record above (seems new) | |
| 23:12 | 20:15:03-28/03 zebrasrv(12) [warn] zebra_delete_record failed r=1 | |
| 23:13 | but the detail page for that record still works | |
| 23:13 | strangely | |
| 23:13 | chris | interesting |
| 23:13 | i havent seen that error before | |
| 23:13 | i get | |
| 23:13 | kados | and it's a 500 error too |
| 23:13 | chris | 15:06:29-29/03 zebrasrv(8) [log] 1605 bytes: |
| 23:13 | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?> | |
| 23:13 | <collection xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/ ... | |
| 23:13 | 15:06:29-29/03 zebrasrv(8) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 | |
| 23:14 | 15:06:29-29/03 zebrasrv(8) [log] zebra_end_trans | |
| 23:14 | kados | huh |
| 23:14 | apache has: | |
| 23:14 | [Tue Mar 28 20:16:27 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] ZOOM error 224 "ES: immediate execution failed" (addinfo: "delete_record failed") from diag-set 'Bib-1' | |
| 23:14 | lemme try another biblionumber | |
| 23:15 | same deal | |
| 23:15 | chris | hmmm |
| 23:15 | kados | 20:17:53-28/03 zebrasrv(16) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 |
| 23:15 | 20:17:53-28/03 zebrasrv(16) [warn] cannot delete record above (seems new) | |
| 23:15 | 20:17:53-28/03 zebrasrv(16) [warn] zebra_delete_record failed r=1 | |
| 23:15 | chris | whats before the delete bit |
| 23:15 | some xml? | |
| 23:15 | kados | 20:17:53-28/03 zebrasrv(16) [log] 2189 bytes: |
| 23:15 | <record xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim"><leader>00686 2200217 4500</leader><controlfield tag="001">105730</controlfield><controlfield tag="003">ACLS</contr ... | |
| 23:15 | chris | right |
| 23:16 | kados | ahh ... I did modify my version of MARC::File::XML |
| 23:16 | to strip out the <collection> tag | |
| 23:16 | chris | ah |
| 23:16 | kados | could that be it? |
| 23:16 | chris | that might be |
| 23:16 | kados | lemme uncomment that |
| 23:16 | chris | i get |
| 23:16 | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?> | |
| 23:16 | <collection xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/ ... | |
| 23:16 | kados | right |
| 23:16 | chris | i might be this bit |
| 23:17 | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?> | |
| 23:17 | thats needed | |
| 23:18 | kados | huh ... and how do I get that big? |
| 23:18 | bit even | |
| 23:18 | chris | no idea |
| 23:19 | lets just try with the collection bit | |
| 23:19 | kados | huh ... I can't seem to find that modif |
| 23:19 | guess I'll just delete it and reinstall | |
| 23:22 | huh ... now my rmmod.pl script says it's not even installed | |
| 23:22 | arrrg | |
| 23:31 | I think I know what the problem is | |
| 23:31 | chris | whats that? |
| 23:31 | kados | when I indexed those records |
| 23:31 | they went in with a <record> wrapper | |
| 23:31 | cause I indexed them using zebraidx | |
| 23:31 | which doesn't use a collection wrapper | |
| 23:31 | I'll drop a replacement XML.pm file in C4 | |
| 23:32 | with <record> wrapper | |
| 23:32 | course, that still might screw things up | |
| 23:32 | chris | hmm |
| 23:32 | kados | cause somewhere we might need <collection> right? |
| 23:32 | chris | could be |
| 23:32 | kados | (zebra doesn't create a collection wrapper when you use zebraidx) |
| 23:32 | chris | ahh right |
| 23:33 | kados | arrg, my head hurts |
| 23:54 | chris: I've no idea what to do here | |
| 23:54 | chris: maybe put a collection wrapper back in if one doesn't exist? | |
| 23:55 | chris: zebra shouldn't use it anyway | |
| 23:55 | so I'm confused about why it should matter | |
| 23:55 | chris | i have no idea im afraid, im not sure why it works on mine, but not there |
| 23:55 | kados | is there a way I can delete in yaz? |
| 23:57 | chris | hmmmm |
| 23:57 | not that i know of | |
| 23:58 | kados | well what else could it be |
| 23:58 | 20:58:15-28/03 zebrasrv(24) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 | |
| 23:58 | chris | yep |
| 23:58 | kados | 20:58:15-28/03 zebrasrv(24) [warn] cannot delete record above (seems new) |
| 23:58 | 20:58:15-28/03 zebrasrv(24) [warn] zebra_delete_record failed r=1 | |
| 23:59 | could you paste in your log | |
| 23:59 | starting with the xml bit | |
| 23:59 | chris | 15:22:27-29/03 zebrasrv(13) [log] delete grs.xml <no file> 0 |
| 23:59 | 15:22:27-29/03 zebrasrv(13) [log] zebra_end_trans | |
| 23:59 | thats the bit right after the xml bit | |
| 23:59 | no warns | |
| 23:59 | it just does it | |
| 00:00 | can u check ur koha-error_log | |
| 00:00 | it should have the record in xml in it | |
| 00:01 | kados | I [Tue Mar 28 20:58:15 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] heres the record to delete 58058 at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Biblio.pm line 1001. |
| 00:01 | [Tue Mar 28 20:58:15 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] ZOOM error 224 "ES: immediate execution failed" (addinfo: "delete_record failed") from diag-set 'Bib-1' | |
| 00:01 | I put a warn in with the XML | |
| 00:01 | chris | you could edit Search.pm |
| 00:01 | in get_xml_record | |
| 00:01 | kados | yea, I did |
| 00:01 | chris | where it says ###$record |
| 00:01 | kados | added a warn, also tried adding a <collection wrapper |
| 00:02 | chris | make that ### $record |
| 00:02 | kados | really? waht woudl that do? |
| 00:02 | chris | thats using smart::comments |
| 00:02 | it will output it nicely | |
| 00:02 | kados | ok |
| 00:03 | chris | should be just before that heres the record to delete line shows up |
| 00:03 | in the log | |
| 00:03 | kados | yea |
| 00:03 | it's there | |
| 00:03 | [Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] ### $record: '<record xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim"><leader>00686 2200217 4500</leader><controlfield tag="001">105730</controlfield><controlfiel | |
| 00:03 | <snip> | |
| 00:03 | [Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] <idzebra xmlns="http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/"> | |
| 00:03 | [Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] <size>686</size> | |
| 00:03 | [Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] <localnumber>50800</localnumber> | |
| 00:03 | [Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] <filename>records/npl.iso2709</filename> | |
| 00:04 | [Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] </idzebra> | |
| 00:04 | [Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] </record>' | |
| 00:04 | so I'm guessing that's different thank yours | |
| 00:04 | chris | hmm thats with ur warn eh |
| 00:04 | with smart comments you dont get all the stuff in front | |
| 00:04 | just the variable | |
| 00:04 | kados | huh ... |
| 00:04 | chris | all this |
| 00:04 | [Tue Mar 28 21:05:43 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] | |
| 00:04 | makes it easier to see :) | |
| 00:05 | well i have no filename bit | |
| 00:05 | kados | what i pasted above is not my warn |
| 00:05 | cause I uncommented my warn | |
| 00:05 | chris | ah maybe ur logs just do that |
| 00:05 | kados | yea, could be |
| 00:05 | chris | <idzebra xmlns="http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/"> |
| 00:05 | <size>1454</size> | |
| 00:05 | <localnumber>44</localnumber> | |
| 00:05 | </idzebra> | |
| 00:05 | </collection> | |
| 00:05 | is how mine finishes | |
| 00:06 | kados | huhso mine has a filename |
| 00:06 | chris | plus </record> instead of </collection> |
| 00:06 | kados | and is wrapped in <record> |
| 00:06 | chris | heres where my record bit is |
| 00:06 | </record> | |
| 00:06 | <idzebra xmlns="http://www.indexdata.dk/zebra/"> | |
| 00:06 | <size>1454</size> | |
| 00:06 | <localnumber>44</localnumber> | |
| 00:06 | </idzebra> | |
| 00:06 | </collection> | |
| 00:06 | before it | |
| 00:07 | kados | huh |
| 00:07 | so maybe when I index I need to specify something special | |
| 00:07 | chris | you could try bulkmarcimporting 1 or 2 records |
| 00:07 | kados | yea |
| 00:07 | I'll do that | |
| 00:07 | chris | and see if they delete |
| 00:07 | kados | but we still need a way to deal with both types |
| 00:07 | because there's no way we're importing 150K records with perl-zoom | |
| 00:07 | it'd take 4 days | |
| 00:09 | chris | yep |
| 00:09 | itd be good to know if that was the problem | |
| 00:09 | though | |
| 00:10 | kados | huh ... |
| 00:10 | i imported three records | |
| 00:10 | chris | yep |
| 00:10 | kados | but I can't find them |
| 00:10 | chris | hmmm |
| 00:12 | kados | looks like they imported ok |
| 00:12 | 21:11:39-28/03 zebrasrv(26) [log] 3053 bytes: | |
| 00:12 | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><collection xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim http://www.l ... | |
| 00:12 | got a commit start and clean | |
| 00:12 | chris | hmm |
| 00:12 | kados | so something definitely changed |
| 00:12 | chris | weird |
| 00:13 | kados | yea |
| 00:14 | I wonder if anything else works | |
| 00:14 | like modifies or check-outs | |
| 00:15 | huh ... member searches 500 | |
| 00:15 | wtf | |
| 00:15 | Tue Mar 28 21:17:54 2006] [error] [client 70.106.189.214] Undefined subroutine &main::BornameSearch called at /home/koha/plugin/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/member.pl line 80., referer: http://kohatest2.liblime.com/c[…]tail.pl?bib=58058 | |
| 00:15 | great ... | |
| 00:16 | chris | what the hell |
| 00:16 | ahh thats probably in Search.pm | |
| 00:17 | kados | it's in Borrowers.pm in rel_2_2 |
| 00:17 | ahh .. head I mean | |
| 00:17 | chris | right, that will be the problem it must have been in Search.pm in 2_2 |
| 00:17 | kados | yup |
| 00:17 | that's gonna wreak havok | |
| 00:18 | I've had enough for tonight :-) | |
| 00:18 | heading to bed | |
| 00:18 | chris | what we will need to do, is add the sub routines to Search.pm for rel_2_2 not replace Search.pm |
| 00:18 | kados | more beating my head against the wall tomorrow :-) |
| 00:18 | chris | :) |
| 00:18 | i have no idea why the deletes wont work | |
| 00:18 | but ill look into it more | |
| 00:19 | kados | thanks |
| 00:19 | chris | its tricky as i dont seem to be able to replicate it |
| 00:19 | kados | let me send you my install notes |
| 00:19 | so you can | |
| 00:20 | chris | i cant make it not delete |
| 00:20 | i mean | |
| 00:20 | kados | well, you imported differently than me too |
| 00:20 | which I suspect is the problem | |
| 00:20 | chris | yeah i did bulkmarcimport |
| 00:20 | but why didnt that work for you either | |
| 00:20 | kados | dunno |
| 00:20 | chris | anyway, go get some sleep |
| 00:21 | kados | before i go |
| 00:21 | chris | clear head always helps |
| 00:21 | kados | here's what you would need to do |
| 00:21 | record.abs is already committed | |
| 00:21 | so just create a zebra/records dir | |
| 00:21 | chris | whats different between record.abs and collection.abs ? |
| 00:21 | kados | copy the npl.mrc I gave you over to the records dir |
| 00:21 | chris | anything? |
| 00:21 | kados | and rename it as npl.iso2709 |
| 00:22 | nothing different | |
| 00:22 | chris | k |
| 00:22 | kados | to import |
| 00:22 | go: | |
| 00:22 | # zebraidx -g iso2709 -d kohaplugin update records -n | |
| 00:22 | # zebraidx commit | |
| 00:22 | chris | maybe we should just symlink them |
| 00:22 | kados | where zebraplugin is your dbname |
| 00:22 | yea, good idea | |
| 00:22 | we need both if we're going to zebraidx as well as bulkmarcimport | |
| 00:22 | chris | right |
| 00:22 | kados | because MARC::File::XML uses a collection wrapper but zebra doesn't |
| 00:23 | anyway, that will get you up and running like me | |
| 00:23 | chris | zebraidx does create the koha stuff right? |
| 00:23 | doesnt even | |
| 00:23 | kados | it assumes you've got the koha stuff in there already |
| 00:23 | chris | right |
| 00:23 | kados | npl's data does |
| 00:23 | so meadville will import into 2.2 | |
| 00:23 | then export with the marc.pl script | |
| 00:24 | then import into zebra with zebraidx | |
| 00:24 | chris | ah right |
| 00:24 | kados | (I modified marc.pl to just dump to a file) |
| 00:24 | (which is what the npl.mrc file is) | |
| 00:24 | (do you still have that btw?) | |
| 00:24 | chris | ok ill have a look see if i can get it to break |
| 00:24 | kados | (I'll post is somewhere just in case) |
| 00:25 | chris | id have to load all the npl data for it to be useful |
| 00:25 | ill just export a couple of the records ive already loaded | |
| 00:25 | and then zebraidx them | |
| 00:25 | and see if that breaks | |
| 00:27 | kados | all you need to do to modify the marc.pl export script |
| 00:27 | is comment out the first print | |
| 00:27 | then you can run it like | |
| 00:28 | ./marc.pl op=export start_bib=1 end_bib=3 > records.mrc | |
| 00:28 | chris | ta |
| 00:28 | kados | k ... I'm out |
| 00:28 | chris | cya |
| 03:27 | osmoze | hello |
| 03:40 | pierrick | is an old koha developer present ? |
| 03:45 | chris | im not that old, im only 32 |
| 03:45 | :-) | |
| 03:45 | what do you need pierrick? | |
| 03:48 | hdl | hi |
| 03:48 | chris | hi hdl |
| 03:54 | pierrick: im just off to wash the dishes, ill be back in a bit, if you want to ask anything about old koha | |
| 04:08 | pierrick | about bugtracker, I was wondering what meant the state "RESOLVED VERIFIED"? What is required to close the bug after this? |
| 04:14 | chris | back |
| 04:15 | ahh, it should go resolved - fixed, or resolved - invalid, etc | |
| 04:16 | then verified when someone has checked it | |
| 04:16 | closed when its been released | |
| 04:17 | so resolved - invalid, could go straight to closed | |
| 04:17 | fixed, should be verified, then closed | |
| 04:17 | at least thats how i use it | |
| 04:18 | ideally a developer marks something as fixed, when he/she thinks they have fixed it, someone else verifies the fix, then the qa person closes the bug | |
| 04:18 | if they are happy | |
| 04:20 | pierrick | OK, so every bug VERFIED on Koha 1.x should be CLOSED today |
| 04:20 | chris | yes |
| 04:21 | pierrick | thank you chris, I'll close som bugs today |
| 04:21 | chris | thank you |
| 04:21 | pierrick | chris, do you take care of koha.org ? |
| 04:21 | or is that russ work ? | |
| 04:21 | chris | some of it |
| 04:21 | russ does most of it | |
| 04:22 | if you want something changed i can do that | |
| 04:22 | pierrick | yesterday, you said I made good suggestions about user oriented tools |
| 04:22 | chris | ah yes you did |
| 04:23 | number 2 is already started | |
| 04:28 | the extensions/templates is a great idea | |
| 04:28 | ive been wanting to do something like that for a long time, where people can submit their templates | |
| 04:29 | pierrick | I wanted to discuss with kados about extension manager, because he said he wanted a kohazilla.org who would do the same |
| 04:30 | chris | we could have |
| 04:30 | templates.koha.org | |
| 04:30 | extensions.koha.org | |
| 04:30 | etc | |
| 04:30 | pierrick | why only "templates" ? |
| 04:30 | OK, better with "extensions" | |
| 04:30 | Imagine customers sharing their biblioframeworks as well... | |
| 04:31 | chris | true that would be great |
| 04:31 | coordinating this, and looking after these sort of things are the kind of things id like to see a foundation take charge of | |
| 04:32 | pierrick | when I searched this kind of software for PhpWebGallery, I found nothing, so a team member wrote something |
| 04:32 | we are going to make it free independant software, usable for any project | |
| 04:33 | chris | sweet |
| 04:33 | pierrick | it is based on extensions, revisions of extension, compatibility with the extended software. For example, revision 2 of template "darksky" is compatible with Koha 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 |
| 04:34 | you come to the extension manager and ask template compatible with Koha 2.2.5, "darksky" will be listed | |
| 04:34 | chris | ooohh that sounds ideal |
| 04:35 | pierrick | did you work with Joshua about an extension manager ? |
| 04:35 | chris | no, it was just in the idea stage |
| 04:35 | we didnt get any further | |
| 04:35 | (no time) | |
| 04:37 | pierrick | OK, will you or russ have time to install something on koha.org in April |
| 04:38 | chris | yep ill make time |
| 04:39 | osmoze | someone knows if a module inventory is in todo list ? |
| 04:40 | chris | i think tumer has written some code to do stock inventory |
| 04:40 | i seem to remember an email he sent paul about it | |
| 04:40 | but i havent seen it working | |
| 04:40 | osmoze | ok, i will investigate :) |
| 05:52 | pierrick | reading koha-devel archive, I've found a suggestion on user tagging feature : http://lists.nongnu.org/archiv[…]-10/msg00011.html Was this feature added? Is someone interested in doing it? |
| 05:53 | chris | it seems like something interesting, but no one has worked on it as far as i know |
| 05:54 | pierrick | OK :-) |
| 05:55 | are there features like suggestions to borrowers already been planned ? | |
| 05:55 | chris | suggestions to borrowers? |
| 05:55 | pierrick | I mean like on Amazon. Based on what you already look and buy, Amazon suggests to look at other items. |
| 05:55 | chris | ahhh |
| 05:56 | pierrick | tagging would do this in some way |
| 05:56 | chris | we could do something like that |
| 05:56 | pierrick | based on other users experience |
| 05:56 | chris | that would be cool |
| 05:58 | pierrick | "see" and "see also" are already a first suggestion way, but very static. In fact, I don't know very well how "see" and "see also" work... I have to investigate |
| 05:58 | chris | yeah, letting users suggest others |
| 05:59 | would be good | |
| 05:59 | pierrick | so the user tagging feature is interesting :-) |
| 06:00 | chris | yep |
| 06:00 | pierrick | but does not exactly suggest... it's something else... |
| 06:00 | chris | yeah, grouping |
| 06:01 | hmm suggestions, how to do it nicely | |
| 06:02 | pierrick | the Amazon way ? |
| 06:02 | chris | well we'd have to collect more info |
| 06:02 | the trick is | |
| 06:02 | that in order to be useful we need to track what users look at | |
| 06:03 | which is scary in the USA with the patriot act | |
| 06:03 | pierrick | lol |
| 06:04 | chris | only being slightly joking, if you dont track what users look at, you cant hand that info over to the FBI |
| 06:04 | pierrick | I have the same problem with PhpWebGallery navigation logs |
| 06:04 | paul | pierrick ? |
| 06:05 | pierrick | we don't need to make logs associated to a borrower. We just need to know that "a" borrower did this and then that. |
| 06:05 | paul, yes ? | |
| 06:06 | paul | you should read carefully the wiki page about KohaCon, may 3rd. |
| 06:06 | chris | ohh true |
| 06:06 | paul | i've added you as a speaker ! |
| 06:06 | chris | good point pierrick |
| 06:06 | hi paul | |
| 06:06 | paul | hi chris. |
| 06:06 | pierrick | paul, OK, interesting to speak in public :-) |
| 06:07 | osmoze | what is "vendangeur" for pierrick Paul ? |
| 06:07 | paul | hi osmoze. |
| 06:07 | pierrick will explain itself ! | |
| 06:07 | osmoze | hi :) |
| 06:10 | chris | cool |
| 06:13 | pierrick | chris, about user tagging, what would be the difference with virtual shelves? I think user tagging is just improving virtual shelves functionnality |
| 06:14 | chris | hmm you could be right |
| 08:34 | osmoze | paul ? |
| 08:34 | paul | yep |
| 08:37 | osmoze | une suggestion, dans les transferts |
| 08:38 | a chaque livre il faut remettre la branch | |
| 08:38 | c est pas tres pratique quand on transfert 500 livres | |
| 08:38 | qq un a deja fait cette remarque ? | |
| 08:40 | (je m explique, je passe 500 livres de laf à vazerac, a chaque fois je dois remettre vazerac...Une tres grosse perte de temps pour nous | |
| 08:40 | ) | |
| 08:40 | je reprend | |
| 08:40 | paul | tu veux dire que la branche de destination doit être resaisie après chaque transfert ? |
| 08:40 | osmoze | oui |
| 08:41 | il serai bien de faire comme pour le pret, tu mets ta branches et hop, ca reste | |
| 08:43 | tu vois mon idée alors paul ? | |
| 08:44 | paul | (au tel) |
| 08:51 | oui je vois l'idée | |
| 09:07 | osmoze | tu penses qu une petite modifs pourrait etre faite pour la 2.4 ? |
| 09:07 | paul | je vais la noter. |
| 09:07 | je pense que ca devrait être simple | |
| 09:09 | osmoze | cool :) |
| 09:22 | paul | hdl ? |
| 09:23 | hdl | oui |
| 09:23 | paul | tu as réservé l'hotel à partir du dimanche 7 mai à Marseille ? |
| 09:23 | hdl | Oui. |
| 09:23 | paul | ah, ok, je me demandais si c'était une erreur de date. |
| 09:23 | hdl | Tu pense que je devrais réserver à partir du 8 ? |
| 09:24 | paul | du tout, tu passeras le dimanche soir avec nos hotes étrangers |
| 09:24 | (et pierrick, qui a réservé le 7 au soir lui aussi) | |
| 09:24 | hdl | Il me semblait que ce serait mieux d'être sur place la veille. |
| 09:38 | kados | paul: yes, I was trying to call them rjust now |
| 09:38 | paul: I never recieved an email from them | |
| 09:39 | paul: after I submitted the web form | |
| 09:39 | paul | they told me they sended one to request your credit card number |
| 09:39 | kados | hmmm, I did not recieve it |
| 09:39 | paul | they at least have recieved your mail |
| 09:39 | kados | great, can they send it again? |
| 09:39 | paul | if you don't succeed to get them, let me know. |
| 09:40 | kados | I have attempted to dial +33 4 91 33 65 64 |
| 09:40 | but it doesn't seem to connect ... | |
| 09:41 | paul | that's the correct # |
| 09:41 | kados | I'll try again |
| 09:41 | paul | you can also try http://www.europe-hotel.fr/fr/[…]tacts/contact.php |
| 09:43 | kados | ok |
| 09:43 | paul: quick question | |
| 09:43 | paul: in the US, often a hotel does not charge extra for more persons in a room (up to 5) | |
| 09:43 | is this the same in France? | |
| 09:43 | (we will add one to our number) | |
| 09:44 | paul | it depends on the hotel. |
| 09:44 | who will you add ? | |
| 09:44 | kados | Sara, our junior programmer :-) |
| 09:44 | programmer in training ... she attends the local college | |
| 09:44 | paul | for europe hotel, it seems they only have single / twin. |
| 09:44 | kados | and 'double' whatever that is |
| 09:44 | paul | twin is for 2, same price if you are 1 or 2. |
| 09:45 | kados | right |
| 09:45 | paul | twin is : 2 1 person bed |
| 09:45 | double is : 1 2 person bed | |
| 09:45 | kados | right |
| 09:45 | paul | they have a 'triple' |
| 09:45 | (75€) | |
| 09:45 | you could ask them. | |
| 09:45 | kados | yes, I will |
| 09:46 | paul | but 1 man & 2 women in the same bedroom will make ppl looking at you as a strange guy... |
| 09:46 | kados | hehe |
| 09:46 | ok, message sent | |
| 09:46 | paul | how much cost a flight ticket Columbus => paris ? |
| 09:47 | (& back to columbus) | |
| 09:47 | kados | approx $700 USD |
| 09:47 | paul | that's what I was thinking. Quite the same for us paris > columbus > paris |
| 09:48 | my student arrive in 20mn | |
| 09:48 | youpi ! | |
| 09:49 | kados | woohoo |
| 09:51 | paul: are there many riots in Marseille? | |
| 09:51 | paul | riots ? |
| 09:51 | kados | revolutions :-) |
| 09:52 | small revolutions == riots :-) | |
| 09:52 | paul | do you want to laugh a little : |
| 09:52 | the police says that yesterday there was 28 000 ppl in the street (against the CPE) | |
| 09:52 | kados | yes |
| 09:53 | (in US they reported 200K in Marseille alone) :-) | |
| 09:53 | paul | and how many for ppl organising the défilé (don't know the word in english) ? |
| 09:53 | they said 250 000 | |
| 09:53 | usually police says X and ppl say 2X or 2.5X | |
| 09:53 | kados | hehe |
| 09:53 | paul | but in Marseille, there is always a *8 or *10 factor ! |
| 09:53 | kados | he |
| 09:54 | so which is it? 28K or 250K ? :-) | |
| 09:54 | pierrick | that's why Marseille is so much appreciated... |
| 09:54 | kados | hehe |
| 09:54 | paul | to answer your question : don't be afraid and don't hear what NYT says : france is safer than Badgad ! |
| 09:54 | pierrick | let's say 50K |
| 09:54 | paul | s/hear/believe/ |
| 09:54 | I would say 2 things : | |
| 09:55 | * police has a constant method to cound ppl : they take a photo from the sky, and use a grid. | |
| 09:55 | 100 in a grid & 100 grids filled => 10 000 persons. | |
| 09:55 | kados | right |
| 09:55 | paul | organisators counts ppl passing on a given point. |
| 09:56 | so, it's not strange to have a x2 or x2,5 difference. | |
| 09:56 | but I bet that Marseille want always to be the largest & highest & tallest & biggest & ...est city in france. | |
| 09:56 | so, it's not enough to have 30 000 ppl. | |
| 09:56 | 250 000 is better. | |
| 09:56 | so let's say we were 250 000. | |
| 09:57 | pierrick | to conclude I would say that riots should never take place in forrest... |
| 09:57 | paul | (note that the city is 800 000 ppl) |
| 09:57 | pierrick | trees would prevent from counting! |
| 09:59 | kados | paul: I finally got through to the hotel ... they are writing me another email right now |
| 10:00 | paul | great ! |
| 10:06 | kados | chris got deletions working last night |
| 10:06 | well, partly | |
| 10:06 | they work for records imported via perl-zoom | |
| 10:07 | paul | kados : my student is here. |
| 10:07 | kados | but not yet for records imported with zebraidx (like Tumer's example) |
| 10:07 | paul | and I still don't have anything from you ! |
| 10:07 | kados | paul: tell him hello for me :-) |
| 10:07 | ha | |
| 10:07 | paul | (you told me you had some suggestions to do) |
| 10:07 | kados | yes ... I can tell you right now |
| 10:07 | paul | but is here if you prefer a chat |
| 10:07 | kados | ok ... in fact I'll update the wiki |
| 10:08 | paul | great |
| 10:08 | kados | http://wiki.liblime.com/doku.p[…]catalogingproject |
| 10:15 | paul | kados : can I add sara to the 2nd week list ? |
| 10:16 | kados | paul: yes, though I'm not 100% sure she will spend all time with developers |
| 10:16 | paul | no prob |
| 10:16 | kados | paul: but certainly some :-) |
| 10:29 | paul: http://wiki.liblime.com/doku.p[…]catalogingproject | |
| 10:29 | paul: I will expand it later today | |
| 10:29 | paul: I need to head out for a bitt | |
| 10:29 | paul: back in about an hour | |
| 10:40 | pierrick | I have the same problem Owen encountered 3 months ago : http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.p[…]:18&search=Search |
| 10:40 | branchcode in aqbookfund | |
| 10:40 | not supported in HEAD it seems. Do I suppose it is a result of a too violent merge from rel_2_2 ? | |
| 10:44 | hdl, you worked on this, can you help me? http://lists.nongnu.org/archiv[…]-01/msg00120.html | |
| 11:13 | paul | hdl ? |
| 11:13 | hdl | oui |
| 11:47 | kados | paul: hotel confirmed :-) |
| 11:47 | paul | great. |
| 11:47 | for 3 ? | |
| 11:47 | (in the triple I mean) | |
| 11:49 | kados | paul: how far is it from the hotel to the dev meeting location? |
| 11:50 | paul | something like 15km |
| 11:50 | kados | ahh |
| 11:50 | quite far then | |
| 11:50 | paul | yes, but hotel is in marseille center. |
| 11:50 | while CMI is in the north. | |
| 11:50 | kados | right |
| 11:50 | it's best I think | |
| 11:51 | makes it easy to 'see the city' | |
| 11:51 | after work :-) | |
| 11:51 | paul | & marseille center is interesting, while the marseille north is something to avoid generally ! |
| 11:51 | kados | hehe |
| 11:51 | (yes, the triple) | |
| 11:57 | paul: about XUL MARC editor | |
| 11:57 | paul: do you have a moment to discuss it? | |
| 11:58 | paul | yep ? |
| 11:58 | no | |
| 11:58 | kados | ok |
| 11:58 | paul | I write a mail, & leave. |
| 11:58 | kados | I will email you |
| 11:58 | paul | i'll be there tomorrow, but not on friday. |
| 11:58 | kados | ok |
| 11:58 | paul | due to riot, antoine has a last course tomorrow, so he will begin really on monday |
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