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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 11:05 | kados | hi everyone |
| 11:05 | paul++ | |
| 11:10 | paul | hi kados |
| 11:54 | ok guys (kados, hdl and everybody...) my ZOOM problem is solved. | |
| 11:54 | unfortunately, the problem is : | |
| 11:54 | In other words, it's precisely correct to say that the symbol you're | |
| 11:54 | linking against doesn't exist, because (IIRC) you're using YAZ 2.1.10. | |
| 11:54 | So before we continue, you need to upgrade to YAZ 2.1.11. The only | |
| 11:54 | tiny problem with this plan is that it doesn't yet exist, because it | |
| 11:54 | still awaits release. | |
| 11:55 | so many time lost... | |
| 11:55 | shedges | wow. That must be very discouraging. |
| 11:55 | paul | (the complete mail should arrive at koha-devel & koha-zebra in 3 hours...) |
| 11:56 | yep. | |
| 11:56 | shedges | any release date for 2.1.11? |
| 11:56 | paul | nope. But I bet it will be very soon now ! |
| 11:57 | (and Mike don't remember where I could DL a nightly tarball) | |
| 11:57 | (but anyway I don't plan to build a nightly, I prefer official/stable releases) | |
| 11:58 | kados | yikes ... sorry about that paul |
| 11:59 | that's a real shame | |
| 11:59 | paul | (not your fault kados. but a shame, I agree) |
| 11:59 | kados | waste of many hours :( |
| 12:00 | hopefully the rest of the conversion will go smoothly | |
| 12:01 | paul | in french we say "l'espoir fait vivre" (=hope keeps you alive) Except when you say this it mean you think "poor guy, you'll never succeed" |
| 12:08 | shedges : http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/album162?page=2 => baby name is benjamin | |
| 12:22 | shedges | ah -- thanks, Paul! |
| 12:22 | (a very good name -- my son's name) | |
| 12:27 | paul | (my neveu one too) |
| 12:38 | kados | in case anyone missed it late yesterday, pre-preannouncement for a new site: http://labs.liblime.com/ |
| 12:38 | paul: opencataloger demos are there | |
| 12:38 | paul: (one not working yet) | |
| 12:40 | paul | any interesting news aroung opencataloger ? |
| 12:42 | kados | hehe |
| 12:42 | morning owen | |
| 12:42 | owen | Hi kados |
| 12:42 | paul | hi owen |
| 12:42 | kados | http://labs.liblime.com was announced just a sec ago |
| 12:43 | paul | (you should change chat title ;-) ) |
| 12:43 | kados | good point |
| 12:44 | owen | Very nice, kados! |
| 12:45 | kados | I also purchased kohazilla.org/com |
| 12:45 | paul | kados : how many ppl work for liblime (full time I mean) ? |
| 12:45 | kados | where I plan to have a small site where users can submit their firefox plugins, etc. |
| 12:45 | paul: well ... we have four employees | |
| 12:46 | paul: + we're sub-contracting out to three others | |
| 12:46 | paul | "we" have ? |
| 12:46 | kados | it's a corporation :-) |
| 12:46 | well ... it basically means I don't own the business | |
| 12:47 | there are shareholders and a board of directors | |
| 12:47 | of course I am both ... and so are the other four employees | |
| 12:47 | paul | wow. It's a large company... shareholders, directors... |
| 12:47 | :-D | |
| 12:47 | kados | well ... only four of everything :-) |
| 12:47 | and very modest paychecks :-) | |
| 12:48 | paul | when do you plan to be introduced in NASDAQ ? |
| 12:48 | kados | hehe |
| 12:48 | it's 'privately held' ... so noone but the four of us owns shares in the company | |
| 12:48 | which is the way I'd like to keep it | |
| 12:48 | (but I could be voted down :-)) | |
| 12:49 | hehe | |
| 12:49 | paul | you're 25% x4 |
| 12:49 | ? | |
| 12:49 | are the other 4 known in the Koha project ? | |
| 12:49 | kados | yep |
| 12:49 | paul | I want NAMES :-) |
| 12:49 | kados | not well known no |
| 12:49 | hehe | |
| 12:49 | Ryan is one | |
| 12:50 | Tina and Sara are the others | |
| 12:50 | but they don't irc on #koha very much | |
| 12:50 | paul | neither write on koha-devel or somewhere else if I don't mind |
| 12:51 | kados | not much |
| 12:51 | sara is our 'junior tech' | |
| 12:51 | paul | (tina & sara : name for woman, isn't it ? while Ryan if for a man ?) |
| 12:51 | kados | she's still a student |
| 12:51 | (yes) | |
| 12:51 | Ryan and Tina have other full-time jobs | |
| 12:51 | they work part-time for liblime | |
| 12:52 | paul | hehe.. typically US behaviour : in France, you can't legally have a full time job + another one. |
| 12:52 | kados | right :-) |
| 12:52 | paul | nobody can work more than 48H/week as employee. |
| 12:52 | kados | a of today, I'm only an employee of liblime |
| 12:52 | s/a/as/ | |
| 12:52 | not NPL anymore | |
| 12:52 | paul | (but it's free for a boss ;-) ) |
| 12:52 | I remember you told me that already | |
| 12:53 | kados | ahh |
| 12:53 | paul | and NPL is your 1st contract iirc |
| 12:53 | but still living in Athens anyway ? | |
| 12:53 | kados | not 1st actually ... in fact, latest :-) |
| 12:53 | yes still in athens | |
| 12:54 | paul | no plans to move ? because Athens is quite far from airport, and US is business area is large if I don't mind |
| 12:54 | kados | yea, it's definitely something I've thought about |
| 12:54 | being closer to an airport would be nice | |
| 12:54 | but I don't have any plans yet :-) | |
| 12:55 | paul | be quick, or you'll find a wife in Athens and never move :-D |
| 12:55 | kados | hehe |
| 12:58 | paul | ... for the best happiness I hope ;-) |
| 12:58 | owen | So far so good :) |
| 13:04 | kados | thanks :-) |
| 13:05 | owen | ...succumbed to the wife-in-Athens-never-moving. But also to the charms of Liblime ;) |
| 13:05 | kados | hehe |
| 13:05 | paul | you mean you're one of the sub-contractors ? |
| 13:06 | kados | yep |
| 13:06 | paul | katipo is as well... seems i'm the only one that isn't for instance... |
| 13:06 | kados | hehe |
| 13:08 | https://addons.mozilla.org/ext[…]&numpg=10&id=1469 | |
| 13:08 | it's called 'CoBrowse' | |
| 13:09 | might be nice for conference calls and webinars | |
| 13:09 | paul | wow, it's really great plugin it seems ! |
| 13:09 | we give it a try now kados ? | |
| 13:09 | kados | I've tried it ... works well |
| 13:10 | let me give you my ip | |
| 13:10 | paul | (I need it too or no ?) |
| 13:10 | kados | no |
| 13:10 | paul | (the plugin I mean) |
| 13:10 | kados | after installing, restart firefox |
| 13:10 | then, put this into your 'CoBrowse Server' bar: 70.106.186.214 | |
| 13:10 | and click on 'connect' | |
| 13:11 | anyone else can try it too | |
| 13:11 | paul | so I need the plugin or not ? |
| 13:11 | kados | yes, you need it |
| 13:12 | paul | done, but seing nothing for instance |
| 13:12 | kados | how about now? |
| 13:12 | paul | seeing now ! |
| 13:12 | kados | pretty neat eh? |
| 13:13 | paul | yep. |
| 13:13 | kados | hehe |
| 13:14 | paul | do you know a way to reorganize firefox to avoid so many toolbars ? |
| 13:14 | i have 30% of the top of the screen used by toolbars | |
| 13:14 | (webdev, cobrowse...) | |
| 13:15 | kados | yep ... view->toolbars :-) |
| 13:16 | paul | I mean another way that hiding/showing the toolbar : having it minimal/maximal) |
| 13:16 | kados | uncheck the unwanted ones |
| 13:16 | ahh | |
| 13:16 | no ... not offhand | |
| 13:16 | maybe in 'customize'? | |
| 13:17 | nope | |
| 14:18 | shaun | Hey all - kados around? |
| 14:18 | paul | hello shaun. |
| 14:18 | was here 1 hour ago. | |
| 14:18 | and I leave now ;-) | |
| 14:19 | bye & read you later | |
| 14:24 | thd | kados: I am awake again. Are you there? |
| 14:47 | kados | shaun: I"m here |
| 14:47 | thd: missed your email last night :-) | |
| 14:51 | thd | kados: I was having so much fun looking at opencataloger that I could no longer stay sufficiently awake enough to write it at 4 AM. |
| 14:52 | kados | hehe |
| 14:53 | yea it's a fun bit of code | |
| 14:53 | thd | kados: I could not determine how opencataloger sets the Z39.50 search target. What database is being searched in the demo? |
| 14:53 | kados | it's NPL's catalog :-) |
| 14:54 | but eventually, it'll be selectable | |
| 14:54 | thd | kados: I guessed that but failed to notice where that was being set. How is it set? |
| 14:54 | kados | that's actually server-side at the moment |
| 14:55 | but the goal is to do a client-side srw/sru query (using POST) | |
| 14:55 | thd | kados: Where is the call to the server for the present implementation? |
| 14:55 | kados | then, all we need is a client-side (javascript) MARC library :-) |
| 14:56 | thd: it's in the server-side script that you can't see | |
| 14:56 | thd: because it's server-side :-) | |
| 14:58 | thd | kados: I mean that something I can see must be calling the server side script. I examined main.js and the xsl files. I did not look at the JavaScript library files but I assumed they would be just standard for the JavaScript library used. |
| 14:59 | kados | there's an XMLHttpRequest |
| 14:59 | that grabs the XML from the server | |
| 14:59 | I think ideally, the way to go with this is XUL for the next class | |
| 15:00 | thd | kados: and that is called from main.js (not having the code in front of me now)? |
| 15:01 | kados | I'd have to look to be sure, but probably |
| 15:03 | thd | kados: Is the current class with all new people working toward debugging extending the team 42 work with all new people? |
| 15:05 | kados | all new people, yes |
| 15:06 | not sure if they will be debugging or not | |
| 15:06 | might start fresh with XUL | |
| 15:06 | the class doesn't start for a few months | |
| 15:07 | here's some javascript MARC libraries: | |
| 15:07 | http://dlist.sir.arizona.edu/9[…]1/MARC2XMLjs.html | |
| 15:08 | thd | kados: so you and the instructor are the ones providing continuity for perfectly understanding the code. It did not seem hard to follow but seemed a little short of comments. Yet, I cannot see all the code. |
| 15:08 | kados | yep, me and the prof |
| 15:09 | thd | kados: was code from the University of Arizona used? |
| 15:09 | shaun | kados: sorry, I timed this badly - I'll send back an email or talk tomorrow. |
| 15:11 | kados | thd: for our project? not that I know of |
| 15:11 | thd | kados: where can I see the rest of the code? |
| 15:11 | kados | thd: it should be on sourceforge somewhere |
| 15:11 | :-) | |
| 15:11 | CSS 456 or something | |
| 15:12 | thd | kados: under the name opencataloger? |
| 15:12 | kados | nope |
| 15:12 | it's a class sourceforge project | |
| 15:12 | for all of CSS 456's projects thusfar | |
| 15:12 | don't have a url ... sorry | |
| 15:13 | thd | kados: I found no whois record for opencataloger.org |
| 15:13 | kados | prolly hasn't propogated yet |
| 15:13 | just bought it yesterday | |
| 15:13 | :-) | |
| 15:13 | thd | kados: Is the next class in the summer |
| 15:13 | ? | |
| 15:14 | kados | spring I think |
| 15:14 | thd | kados: a one quarter class or one trimester? |
| 15:20 | kados: paul had know sense of how long until Yaz 2.1.11 yet if it is not merely a few days it is likely to delay the projected time for a Koha 3.0 release. | |
| 15:21 | s/know/no/ :) | |
| 15:24 | kados | I'm sure they'll get it out in short order |
| 15:24 | ID is very responsive | |
| 15:28 | thd | kados: Oh yes, I forgot about the promise of solving all problems and remaking the world in 10 days :) |
| 17:26 | kados: searching for Ohio helped http://sourceforge.net/projects/ouoss | |
| 17:45 | kados: what is the relationship between team42 and teamIPG? | |
| 17:54 | kados | thd: competing teams within one class ... separate codebases |
| 17:54 | unfortunately not optimal for us | |
| 17:54 | but it's one of the professor's requirements | |
| 17:54 | thd | kados: only one of which was successful in producing working code? :) |
| 17:58 | kados: definitely not optimal for Koha as compared to cooperating teams where everyone ought to have had working code even if some parts would be less complete than others there would be more parts or more debugging. People often do better competing against themselves than competing against others. | |
| 18:51 | chris | hi audrey |
| 18:51 | audrey | hi chris |
| 18:51 | what's the url for the koha archive? | |
| 18:52 | chris | the mailing list archive? |
| 18:52 | audrey | yes. |
| 18:52 | Is that the address in the topic line? | |
| 18:52 | chris | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/ |
| 18:53 | or http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha | |
| 18:53 | the second one is searchable | |
| 18:55 | audrey | thanks from Audrey and Rosalie |
| 18:55 | chris | :-) |
| 19:09 | thd | chris: hello, now that might New Jersey court troubles are over, I need to make a claim in a formal proposal,, about normal acquisitions in Koha 3.0. How confident are you about having a sufficiently abstracted version working in 3.0. Independently, what might you charge to have a US hard coded shortcut as opposed to a NZ hard coded shortcut for 2.X? |
| 19:10 | chris | you'd have to talk to russ about that, he schedules my time .. 3.0 will have a working full acquisitions (budgets and bookfunds) tho .. 2.x not likely |
| 19:14 | thd | chris: so I should ask russ about what charge might be possible to suggest in case this person wanted a fallback in 2.X? Should I also ask russ about your schedule for working on acquisitions in 3.0? |
| 19:15 | chris | yep, he's the man to ask, drop him an email |
| 19:16 | thd | OK, thanks chris |
| 21:02 | amanda | hello |
| 21:03 | Jose, are you around? | |
| 21:04 | Jose, do you want to join us in the Katipo Lobby? | |
| 21:05 | irc1.katipo.co.nz:6667 | |
| 21:43 | Jose? | |
| 21:54 | thd | russ: I just sent you an email |
| 21:55 | russ | righto |
| 21:56 | thd | russ: If you had time to give any reply tonight it would be very helpful to me. Thanks. |
| 21:57 | russ | righto - it hasnt come through yet - i'll see what i can do |
| 22:21 | thd | kados: I forgot to ask this morning about the apparent lack of provision for indicators in opencataloger. Their absence .was immediately obvious but had there been a plan for treating them in a special manner? |
| 00:03 | audrey | Chris, hi. the fixes that you were doing with Jo yesterday on the daily cash report appear to be related to a question from an engineer in India-- |
| 00:04 | Priyanka Mishra, who wrote a question now located in the archives--His question was never followed up on, as far as I can tell from the archives. | |
| 00:05 | chris | who/what/where? |
| 00:05 | got a url of the message? | |
| 00:06 | audrey | The question is labeled "Problem with circulation report of Koha" from 19 December 2005 at 11:37 |
| 00:06 | chris | ahh i was on holiday |
| 00:06 | i think its probably different | |
| 00:06 | audrey | the url I am looking under is "http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha" |
| 00:06 | because he uses a different version? | |
| 00:07 | chris | circulation report is a different report, the daily til report i was fixing for jo, isnt in the main koha bit yet |
| 00:07 | audrey | ah, yes. |
| 00:07 | Well, that is good to know. | |
| 00:07 | chris | but we have a bug lodged from rangitikei library about the circulation report |
| 00:07 | so it should get fixed soon | |
| 00:08 | audrey | That's good. I am new to reading the bugzilla and the archives log. Hopefully I will not have too many questions :) |
| 00:09 | chris | questions are fine :) |
| 00:09 | its the same question repeatedly asked that gets annoying :-) | |
| 00:12 | off topic audrey .. whereabouts in Ohio are you from? | |
| 00:12 | kados (joshua) is in Athens Ohio | |
| 00:13 | audrey | I am from Alliance and Newton Falls and Akron Ohio; it all depends on when in my life we are talking about. |
| 00:13 | chris | ahh |
| 00:13 | audrey | Athens is about 3-4 hours (not sure about the miles) away |
| 00:13 | chris | i havent visited any of those places ... ive been to Athens, Columbus, Cleveland and Toledo |
| 00:14 | audrey | but my brother Nathaniel has gone to university in Athens at Ohio University |
| 00:14 | Cleveland is closest | |
| 00:14 | chris | cool |
| 00:14 | there is a museum in Cleveland that was using Koha .. not sure if they still are | |
| 00:14 | i want to say the natural history museum | |
| 00:14 | but ill check that | |
| 00:14 | audrey | that would be quite cool. |
| 00:15 | many museums circle the university circle area | |
| 00:16 | chris | i went to an NFL game .. and the rock and roll hall of fame when I was there, and got lost on a bus somewhere too |
| 00:16 | audrey | I got to drive through the area frequently during a recent internship |
| 00:17 | I've never been to the rock and roll hall of fame but would like to go | |
| 00:17 | chris | Jennifer Wilms, Librarian, Cleveland Museum of Natural History |
| 00:17 | audrey | WOW |
| 00:17 | chris | im not sure if they used Koha in the end but I had quite a long email conversation with her |
| 00:18 | do you have an email address there? I can forward you the latest email .. maybe you could make contact when you get back ? | |
| 00:19 | audrey | I have two email addresses, which I am using now and back home--ahurley1kent.edu and booksreferenceyahoo.com |
| 00:19 | chris | cool, ill forward her latest email to the first one |
| 00:20 | ohhh Kent, ive heard of that university | |
| 00:20 | audrey | Thanks. Jo and I will be talking koha presently so I will be a bit occupied |
| 00:20 | chris | i sat next to a girl from kent on the bus to cleveland |
| 00:20 | ok, ill leave you to it, and ill get back to work | |
| 00:28 | audrey | Chris, back to the question from the Indian engineer. Jo thought that the second part of his question "I also need the transaction details for the specific period of time as this is important from the audit point of view." is actually about cash reports because of "audits". Which would make yesterday's fix relevant to him, maybe in a sideways manner. |
| 00:28 | What do you think? | |
| 00:30 | chris | could well be, when the daily cash reports are all working properly (we are pretty close) then ill commit them, and they can come it either 2.2.6 or in 3.0 .. and that oughta fix his problem |
| 00:31 | audrey | great |
| 05:09 | osmoze | hello world :) |
| 05:41 | _hdl_ | hello world |
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