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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:02 | hdl | (hi owen) |
| 02:13 | osmoze | hello |
| 03:42 | Sylvain | chris ? |
| 03:42 | chris | hiya sylvain |
| 03:42 | Sylvain | Your mail helped me but raised new questions :) |
| 03:44 | I understood more about the biblio/bibitem/item structure but can't see (haven't searched more right now) how bulkmarcimmport can know that an item is a "part" of a biblioitem | |
| 03:46 | chris | im not sure it does |
| 03:47 | i suspect it makes one biblioitem and one item for each | |
| 03:48 | it should be possible to make it smarter | |
| 03:48 | so that it checks if a biblioitem already exists thats the same, it attaches an item to it, rather than making another identical biblioitem | |
| 03:48 | thats how all the import from non-marc scripts work | |
| 03:49 | Sylvain | well, it'll be longer than what I was thinking ! |
| 03:49 | let's go for a funny day :) | |
| 03:50 | chris | :) |
| 03:50 | the other thing you can do, with marc off is move items between biblioitems | |
| 03:51 | so import them all in, then go through and combine things .. but you wouldnt want to do that for a big catalogue :) | |
| 03:51 | Sylvain | yes, 30 000 items so I'm going to 'hack' bulkmarcimport |
| 03:52 | chris | :) |
| 03:52 | it might be worth asking paul too, as he might say "you cant do that" or "that wont work" | |
| 03:52 | :) | |
| 03:53 | Sylvain | unless he's there I'm going to play with bulkmarcimprt (hoping he won't then say that wont work :)) |
| 03:53 | chris | :) |
| 05:34 | Sylvain | chris, does horowhenua use marc ? |
| 05:35 | chris | not currently no |
| 05:35 | none of the 13 or so libraries we look after do, but hlt might use it a bit for copy cataloguing in the future | |
| 05:36 | (the marc is there in the background for most of them, but they just dont prefer to see it :-)) | |
| 05:38 | Sylvain | for the example you gave me (the two towers), it is stocked in marc ? |
| 05:38 | chris | hmm not at hlt ... it will be in a month or 2 when we finish their upgrade to 2.2 |
| 05:39 | Sylvain | k |
| 05:39 | chris | hang on ill find it in the one we are testing |
| 05:39 | 2 seconds | |
| 05:39 | Sylvain | thanks |
| 05:44 | chris | http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/c[…]etail.pl?bib=4069 <--- its not very complete at all |
| 05:46 | Sylvain | yes but there, you are losing the ability to know if an item is video, fiction or whatelse |
| 05:46 | chris | yep |
| 05:47 | http://opac.hlt.katipo.co.nz/c[…]etail.pl?bib=4069 <-- thats why here, we have taken off the link to the marc info | |
| 05:47 | since on an opac, that will just confuse most people | |
| 05:47 | Sylvain | ok. But when you edit biblios, are you using (or will you) marc ? |
| 05:48 | chris | wont use it, they may use marc for importing records, acquisitioning |
| 05:48 | but after that, they will just edit it as normal | |
| 05:48 | Sylvain | ok. |
| 05:49 | because there the infos that an item is a video is stored in biblioitems but not in marc_subfield_table ? | |
| 05:49 | orelse how is it stored ? | |
| 05:50 | chris | im not sure how its stored in the marc part |
| 05:50 | Sylvain | I really can't see how to solve my problem :( |
| 05:50 | chris | i havent worried about it too much, as its all going to change for 3.0 |
| 05:51 | Sylvain | I know yes, my only problem is a customer wanting a test version next week :) |
| 05:51 | chris | i think the problem is, some of the info from bibliotems isnt being stored in marc |
| 05:52 | Sylvain | yes and in biblioitems for example, there is the isbn which can't be duplicated in marc ... |
| 05:52 | chris | yeah |
| 05:53 | essentially a biblio, needs to link to more than one marc record | |
| 05:53 | Sylvain | yes |
| 05:53 | chris | but the way koha currently works, there is a one to one relationship |
| 05:53 | unfortunately, i cant see any quick fix for it :( | |
| 05:53 | Sylvain | and it makes me angry :) |
| 05:54 | it's time to lunch, hope I'll find a solution afterthat :) | |
| 05:54 | chris | the biblio->biblioitems->items is a normalised way to represent the data |
| 05:55 | and MARC .. for all it positives, is anything but normalised :-) | |
| 05:55 | enjoy lunch | |
| 05:55 | Syl-Away | thanks :) |
| 08:49 | dccpark | hi all, i have a quick question about the bulkauthimport.pl script. |
| 08:59 | osmoze | hello |
| 09:10 | hdl | hi all |
| 09:15 | Sylvain | salut hdl |
| 11:42 | hdl | Salut Sylvain |
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