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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 14:34 | kados | yay ... owen's back online |
| 14:34 | owen | Finally. |
| 14:35 | They came out, climbed the tower, unplugged the access point and plugged it in again. | |
| 14:35 | kados | hehe |
| 14:36 | what then need is a remote controlled power strip | |
| 14:36 | owen | I cycled some switches on the electric panel, but that didn't seem to help |
| 16:34 | rach | morning |
| 16:34 | we use RT for some stuff | |
| 16:37 | kados | the storm did more than knock me out ... it destroyed my ups and surge protector and blew all the circuits in my house |
| 16:37 | rach: what's RT? | |
| 16:37 | rach | request tracker |
| 16:37 | http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/ | |
| 16:37 | this thing | |
| 16:37 | kados | ahh ... right |
| 16:38 | rach | but we tend to use it for tracking requests, rather than bug reports at the moment |
| 16:39 | so we let customers use RT for their small jobs, but we're still using bugzilla for actual bugs. | |
| 16:42 | Simon's team use RT for incident reporting, network faults, work requests etc | |
| 18:37 | gavin | who |
| 18:59 | rach | ? |
| 02:48 | jean | hi |
| 03:04 | paul | salut jean |
| 03:39 | slef | Can someone boot Madeleine.Kisscec.eu.int from the koha lists, please? I'm getting autoreplies again. |
| 06:07 | kados | morning all |
| 06:12 | paul | hello kados/joshua |
| 06:23 | kados | paul: have you tested Genji's new feature for the OPAC? |
| 06:23 | paul | no. no time to do this. |
| 06:23 | if you have a demo site I can look | |
| 06:23 | but no time to install & test | |
| 06:23 | kados | I just tried last night but I didnt find any docs on setting up categories, etc. |
| 06:24 | paul | I had the same problems when I tried, and didn't investigate. |
| 06:24 | kados | http://opac002.liblime.com/ |
| 06:24 | that's as far as I've gotten | |
| 06:24 | and his email keeps bouncing back to me | |
| 06:24 | paul | did you follow the [IMPORTANT] thread on infokoha-fr.org mailing list ? |
| 06:24 | s/did/do/ | |
| 06:24 | kados | no ... could you summarize? |
| 06:24 | paul | yes. |
| 06:24 | kados | (this week's been too busy to read french ;-)) |
| 06:25 | paul: you'll be happy to know I'm meeting with NPL catalogers today | |
| 06:25 | paul | I also had 2 mails in my mailbox about this. |
| 06:25 | the general idea being : | |
| 06:25 | * nice to see Koha going to large scale libraries & high tech tools | |
| 06:26 | * prefer having the possibility to choose zebra or not zebra | |
| 06:26 | plus 1 very interesting point : | |
| 06:26 | z3950 is an outdated protocol. So we should not too much invest on it. | |
| 06:26 | & be ready for next generation tools | |
| 06:26 | (except that there is none ready yet :-( ) | |
| 06:27 | kados | exactly |
| 06:27 | well my reply: | |
| 06:27 | paul | Christian Rogel pointed that the ZING group will have a meeting next week. |
| 06:27 | & hopefully publish something, after 4 years... | |
| 06:27 | kados | Zebra is less 'high tech' that our current system and will require far les maintenance |
| 06:28 | and | |
| 06:28 | Z39.50 may be outdated but it's going to add many features for searching Koha that would otherwise not be available (speed increase, relevance ranking, stemming) | |
| 06:29 | paul | less high tech ? how can it be possible : if we ADD a new tool, we can't lower technicity & complexity, isn't it ;-) |
| 06:29 | kados | Zebra is far less troublesome than marc_word |
| 06:29 | IMO | |
| 06:30 | and dealing with static MARC files is far easier than with SQL-based marc tables | |
| 06:30 | again IMO | |
| 06:30 | paul | I understand the point about "outdated" as "go to zebra, but think you could switch to something else soon, so have a good code design" |
| 06:30 | & I only can agree with this warning. | |
| 06:30 | kados | yep |
| 06:30 | CQL may be the up-and-coming thing | |
| 06:31 | paul | yep too... |
| 06:31 | kados | (but I'll point out it's still Z39.50) |
| 06:31 | paul | yes, but far most user friendly ;-) |
| 06:31 | kados | and my belief is that indexdata will support it |
| 06:31 | paul | zebra speaks CQL isn't it ? |
| 06:32 | kados | I believe so but I haven't checked |
| 06:32 | I'd be surprised if not | |
| 06:33 | currently, from what little research I've done, Z39.50 is still the best method for retrieving items in a library | |
| 06:34 | paul | Embedding the zebra, page 7 |
| 06:35 | "natively zebra supports only RPN queries, but it comes with tools that make is possible to use CQL | |
| 06:35 | " | |
| 06:35 | or CCL | |
| 06:35 | kados | cool |
| 06:35 | paul | given a mapping to RPN |
| 06:35 | kados | right ... which shouldn't be too hard |
| 06:35 | I bet there's some discussion about this on the list | |
| 06:36 | Here are some thoughts about Koha and the future | |
| 06:36 | from the beginning the koha project has bee focused on smaller libraries | |
| 06:37 | and since 'library and information retrieval standards' weren't as important for smaller libraries | |
| 06:37 | koha didn't use them | |
| 06:37 | when NPL joined we added MARC | |
| 06:37 | which 'was a good thing' | |
| 06:38 | now it's time to look at other standards (especially for searching) | |
| 06:38 | but also for ILL | |
| 06:39 | etc. | |
| 06:39 | at its core Koha will operate much the same | |
| 06:39 | but the idea is that since larger libraries require compliance with international standards | |
| 06:39 | they are more inclined to join the project if Koha already has support for these | |
| 06:39 | and if they join that means more resources for Koha | |
| 06:45 | paul: quick question if you're available | |
| 06:45 | paul: when I run perl -I /path/to/modules -file /path/to/marcfile | |
| 06:46 | oops | |
| 06:46 | perl -I /path/to/modules bulkmarcimport.pl -file /path/to/marcfile | |
| 06:46 | how does bulkmarcimport know which database to use? | |
| 06:46 | since I don't specify where to find koha.conf | |
| 06:47 | paul | export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/koha.conf |
| 06:48 | (if you don't it automatically search /etc/koha.conf only | |
| 06:48 | ) | |
| 06:48 | kados | right that's what I thought |
| 06:48 | IMO it should take koha.conf as an argument | |
| 09:40 | morning owen, jean | |
| 09:40 | owen | Hi |
| 09:40 | paul | (not morning for jean ;-) |
| 09:41 | hi owen. | |
| 09:41 | owen/kados : reading the logs, it seems you had a storm in athens ? | |
| 09:41 | owen | A big sudden thunderstorm |
| 09:41 | Did it knock out your power kados? | |
| 09:42 | kados | yep ... I had a major surge that blew out both my surge protector and actually _blew up_ my UPS |
| 09:42 | and my screen server was powered down as a result | |
| 09:42 | paul | they are "life guaranteed" isn't it ? |
| 09:42 | owen | Holy cow. |
| 09:42 | kados | yea ... still looking into the guaranttee |
| 09:42 | paul | (i mean UPS) |
| 09:42 | kados | yep |
| 09:43 | so I had to run down to Radio Shack and pick up a cheapo replacement to bring the server back online | |
| 09:43 | yea the ups is severaly damaaged internally -- the case managed to remain intact but it's singed | |
| 09:44 | I think the problem is the wiring in my apt | |
| 09:44 | I investigate the 'ground' and found it's not connected to anything | |
| 09:45 | which would explain why the UPS was destroyed :-) | |
| 09:45 | owen | Sounds like you're not up to code |
| 09:45 | kados | so I've got to re-wire one of these days (at least that one) |
| 09:45 | yep | |
| 09:46 | owen | We have a lovely three-bedroom house available for rent :) |
| 09:47 | kados | hehe |
| 09:47 | in athens? | |
| 09:47 | owen | Morris Ave. |
| 09:47 | kados | actually I love my place ;-) |
| 09:47 | it's a one room studio | |
| 09:48 | owen | Yeah, better than having to share with other people |
| 09:48 | kados | and I've got a year-two garden |
| 09:48 | so that'd be hard to give up | |
| 09:48 | plus there's the wildlife ;-) | |
| 09:53 | hehe | |
| 09:53 | hdl: did you just take out Genji's additions to the marc_word search? | |
| 09:54 | they were breaking my search too | |
| 09:54 | paul | he take out a completly buggy SQL select. |
| 09:54 | kados | yep |
| 09:54 | paul | either something's missing, either I don't know. |
| 09:54 | kados | When I tried to email genji It bounced back |
| 09:55 | does anyone have a current email address for him? | |
| 09:55 | his additions look nice ... but I'd like to see them cleaned up a bit | |
| 09:55 | paul | try koha & koha-devel mailing lists. |
| 09:56 | hdl | kados : I only modified the search string to remove tables that were uncarefully joined. |
| 09:57 | So that now, when meking a search, I don't bring my machine down. | |
| 09:57 | kados | right ... reserves, issues, etc. IIRC |
| 09:57 | paul | brign everybody computer down ;-) |
| 09:58 | kados | hehe |
| 10:18 | owen | Why is it that the debarred patrons always come in when the network is down? |
| 10:19 | kados | hehe |
| 10:30 | owen | It would be handy to be able to do a report that listed all available items at your branch which had a different home branch. It would help locate items which hadn't been returned to the proper branch. |
| 11:22 | Lotsa folks here today, but everyone's keeping quiet | |
| 11:23 | hdl | ;) |
| 11:23 | tim | Did anyone notice that someone posted a request for Koha to be added to the list of packages for the next Ubuntu release? |
| 11:23 | http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/ | |
| 11:24 | wondering if maybe it was someone from #koha | |
| 11:26 | owen | Someone here mentioned it...shaun maybe? |
| 11:26 | shaun | not me, owen, I was talking about making RPMs though |
| 11:27 | owen | Hi indradg |
| 11:27 | indradg | hi owen |
| 11:27 | hi all | |
| 11:30 | tim | It would be nice to have it made into RPM and deb |
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