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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 12:11 | kados | paul: the z39.50 server I wrote doesn't discard results that the library has ;-) |
| 12:11 | what would be the point? ;-) | |
| 12:12 | or were you using Koha's z-client to search the z-server? | |
| 14:56 | slef | shaun: reading logs? |
| 15:00 | owen | Or maybe sawing logs? |
| 15:02 | tim | at least about to saw. gotta move around a bit |
| 15:03 | shaun | slef: yes |
| 15:03 | i solved the problem. | |
| 16:02 | Genji | morning guys. |
| 16:25 | kados | morning Genji |
| 16:36 | Genji | hiya all. |
| 17:16 | kados | hey russ |
| 17:16 | russ | hi |
| 17:49 | slef | what's FRBR? |
| 17:54 | kados | Functional Requirements for Bibliographic Records |
| 17:54 | http://www.ifla.org/VII/s13/frbr/frbr.pdf | |
| 17:54 | http://www.oclc.org/research/p[…]/frbr/default.htm | |
| 17:54 | http://www.loc.gov/cds/FRBR.html | |
| 17:54 | that last one is probably the best intro | |
| 19:22 | Genji | hiya yall. how do you make a book nonfiction or fiction? is it a itemtype thing? |
| 19:23 | So, a book, adult non fiction (ANF) would pass through nonfiction filter *NF? | |
| 19:24 | how would my script know what itemtype/class is nonfiction/fiction? | |
| 20:58 | rach | it is itemtype |
| 20:58 | but i was trying to agrigate kids NF + Teens NF + Adult NF | |
| 21:21 | Genji | oh hiya rach. |
| 21:21 | ya. hmmmm.... | |
| 21:22 | Ahh... its common for libraries to have KNF TNF ANF as their itemtype codes? | |
| 21:32 | rach | it was the idea of "super classes" really |
| 21:32 | and i think that certainly they have junior non fiction and just non fiction | |
| 21:32 | Genji | ahh. so really.. you want super classes implemented? |
| 21:32 | rach | in a public library |
| 21:33 | I wanted a library to tell us if it was a good idea | |
| 21:33 | Genji | hmm.... i can see that it would be cool. |
| 21:33 | rach | I thought it would be cool, so that's 2 of us :-) |
| 21:33 | but it might be hard | |
| 21:33 | Genji | nope. |
| 21:33 | rach | however I think the rest is not so hard |
| 21:33 | Genji | i can see that it'll be a preferences table i think... |
| 21:34 | superclasses -> superclassname (multiple) -> superclassitem (string of class codes) | |
| 21:35 | chris | way ahead of ya :) |
| 21:35 | take a look here | |
| 21:35 | Genji | yes please. |
| 21:36 | chris | http://opac.library.org.nz/cgi[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 21:36 | see the classes? | |
| 21:36 | Genji | hmm.. ya.. i been there. |
| 21:36 | chris | ysql> select * from itemtypesearchgroups; |
| 21:36 | +-------------------+-----------------------------------------------+ | |
| 21:36 | | groupname | itemtypes | | |
| 21:36 | +-------------------+-----------------------------------------------+ | |
| 21:36 | | Adult Fiction | BF|BLF|BSF|BPF|PHB|PPB|BYF | | |
| 21:36 | | Adult Non Fiction | BN|BLN|BPN|BSN|BYN|BR|F|BH|BM | | |
| 21:37 | | CD Rom | C|CD|CJ | | |
| 21:37 | | DVD | DP|DJP|DYP|D|DJ|D | |
| 21:37 | rach | ah nice |
| 21:37 | Genji | ahh... cool.. |
| 21:37 | chris | which is used in the template |
| 21:37 | Genji | ill put it into rach's feature request. |
| 21:37 | chris | <option value="BF|BLF|BSF|BPF|PHB|PPB|BYF">Adult Fiction |
| 21:37 | <option value="BN|BLN|BPN|BSN|BYN|BR|F|BH|BM">Adult Non Fiction | |
| 21:37 | rach | this is something you'd have to do for each library - because they all use different classes |
| 21:37 | Genji | yup. |
| 21:37 | rach | and would want different things |
| 21:38 | chris | so that needs a nice interface to edit that table |
| 21:38 | Genji | sounds like it would be easy. |
| 21:38 | chris | im thinking checkboxes or something |
| 21:39 | Genji | Would save them the effort of remembering itemtype codes. |
| 21:41 | hmmm.. is rach always like this? here for a few minutes, gone again? | |
| 21:41 | chris | yep, cos shes working |
| 21:41 | like me | |
| 21:41 | so during the day we only glance at #koha | |
| 21:42 | Genji | i have three screens. |
| 21:42 | and #koha has been on the right one for the last 24 hours. | |
| 21:42 | chris | i watch #koha but dont usually say much during the day cos im usually too busy |
| 21:47 | Genji | so, pesudocode for the interface would be, 1. load itemtypes from its table. name and code only. 2. create table with headers. 3. place an add textbox with add command button. 4. on already added groupnames, put all the itemtypes in checkboxes (X) with full name. 4. have Save and Cancel buttons. Save would "update" the groupname table.. and "insert" if add was ever pressed.... then return to system preferences. |
| 21:47 | what you think? | |
| 21:48 | chris | sounds ok to me |
| 21:52 | Genji | okay.. think ill finish off rach's feature request. |
| 21:52 | then work on the table and interface. I need to modify updatedatabase.pl to account for the new table, right? | |
| 21:52 | chris | yep |
| 21:54 | Genji | is there a table to tell systempreferences to display a link to edititemtypegroup.pl? |
| 21:54 | chris | dunno, u might have to edit the template |
| 21:55 | Genji | cool. |
| 21:58 | could i get your source for opac-search.pl from you? | |
| 21:59 | chris | probably wont help you much thats old 1.2 koha |
| 22:00 | Genji | hrm.... well.. the source for the group lookup would be good, and how it gets put into the catalogsearch. |
| 22:00 | chris | ahh thats just fetched from the table and put into a template |
| 22:00 | ie its stored as | |
| 22:00 | BN|BLN|BPN|BSN|BYN|BR|F|BH|BM | |
| 22:01 | and thats what ends up in the form | |
| 22:01 | Genji | oh.. right. |
| 22:01 | chris | <option value="BF|BLF|BSF|BPF|PHB|PPB|BYF"> |
| 22:01 | Genji | so it just becomes &marclist=items.itemtype ----- &value=BF BLF BSF etc? |
| 22:02 | chris | no marclist in 1.2 |
| 22:02 | Genji | ah. |
| 22:02 | chris | (as i said, it wont help ya much) :) |
| 22:03 | Genji | hmm.... |
| 22:03 | ill see what i can come up with. | |
| 22:07 | out to do stuff. back in... oh.. an hour. | |
| 23:17 | back | |
| 23:18 | chris, ya watching? | |
| 02:17 | ouch. cleaning my room, and my computer plug got pulled out accidently. | |
| 03:02 | hdl | Salut. |
| 03:02 | Genji | Salut, hdl. I only speak english. |
| 03:02 | hdl | Hi Genji. |
| 03:04 | paul : I have read The latests issue of LinuxPratique Magazine. It has an article about Koha. ;) | |
| 03:52 | Sylvain | salut tout le monde |
| 04:01 | Genji | ah. drat. wheres the logbots output address? |
| 04:11 | found it.. and found what i was looking for. I love the logbot. | |
| 04:31 | hdl | paul : commiting acqui/histsearch modifications : interface design could certainly be improved |
| 04:32 | But I have no idea how. | |
| 04:34 | For detail.pl problem in intranet... Problem on subject search. I think I cannot use Authorites search, and search.march/search.pl either. Am I right ? | |
| 05:24 | paul : the 'filter' proposed on borrowers w/o issues is not realy a "filter" as such : Indeed, it leads to much more results. For Instance, borowers w/o issues since today... ;) But I did it ;) | |
| 07:46 | paul | hdl ? |
| 07:46 | ton commit sur borrowers_out.pl fonctionne bien ? | |
| 07:46 | parce que pour moi, pas du tout. Tu utilises des requètes imbriquées, qui ne sont supportées que depuis mySQL 4.1 | |
| 07:47 | or ce n'est pas encore assez répandu, il faut être compatible avec 4.0 | |
| 07:47 | et faire sans requètes imbriquées. | |
| 08:43 | FrancoisL | Hi everyone, hi Paul ! I finally have 10 minutes free (my next appointment isn't started yet !) |
| 08:44 | paul | alors bienvenue. c'est une heure habituellement calme. |
| 08:44 | FrancoisL | I was at the BPI (largest public library in Paris, 450 public stations) with the SAN this morning. |
| 08:44 | 'twas gorgeous :) | |
| 08:44 | paul | what kind of gorgeous ? You install Koha next week ? |
| 08:44 | lol | |
| 08:44 | FrancoisL | :) nope - MMediaView... |
| 08:50 | kados | hu FrancoisL, paul |
| 08:50 | hi even ;-) | |
| 08:50 | paul | 'morning joshua |
| 09:02 | FrancoisL | Salam, Joshua :!: How's life ? |
| 09:02 | kados | pretty good, and you? |
| 09:02 | weather in athens is beautiful today | |
| 09:03 | paul | in Marseille too. |
| 09:03 | FrancoisL | Nice :) 31° C here, some clouds... |
| 09:03 | paul | in Paris, probably raining (for francoisl) |
| 09:03 | kados | about 30 here today ;-) |
| 09:03 | paul | ;-) |
| 09:03 | kados | hehe |
| 09:03 | FrancoisL | I was in Martinique last week - 35°C, great sun (water at 28°C) |
| 09:03 | kados | oohh nice! like a bath ;-) |
| 09:04 | (except for brief times in Greece) | |
| 09:04 | FrancoisL | No see in Athens - what a paradox... |
| 09:04 | Must lmeave friends ! Be back in an hour... | |
| 09:04 | kados | I know! although the real Athens is pretty dirty -- the islands are nice for swimming ;- |
| 09:04 | ciao | |
| 09:05 | paul | joshua/kados, do you have few minuts to speak ? |
| 09:05 | (it's about "quest for search") | |
| 09:12 | kados | sure |
| 09:12 | paul: you have an idea? | |
| 09:12 | paul | (on phone) |
| 09:12 | kados | ok |
| 09:21 | paul: I'm listening so when you're back let me know your ideas | |
| 09:24 | slef | hi shaun |
| 09:30 | paul | kados, i'm back |
| 09:30 | hdl | paul : par rapport à ce que tu me dis sur mon commit : chez moi ça marche, sinon je ne l'aurais pas commité. ;) |
| 09:30 | paul | et tu es en 4.1 |
| 09:30 | ? | |
| 09:30 | hdl | oui. |
| 09:31 | paul | donc le pb vient des requètes imbriquées. |
| 09:31 | hdl | Mais je ne vois pas comment faire autrement que par une requête imbriquée. |
| 09:31 | paul | en général la réponse est : en 2 requètes |
| 09:31 | kados | me too |
| 09:31 | ;-) | |
| 09:31 | paul | i wanted to speak of Search. |
| 09:31 | kados | right |
| 09:31 | paul | i've some questions |
| 09:32 | kados | ok ... shoot |
| 09:32 | paul | plucene seems not to be what we are looking for isn't it ? |
| 09:33 | on one hand I agree it's stupid to re-invent the wheel. So if we can find a useful tool, then we should use it. | |
| 09:33 | On the other hand, we are looking for a very specific tool. | |
| 09:33 | kados | well the features are very good with plucene but as far as I can tell it's too slow |
| 09:33 | paul | it seems. |
| 09:33 | kados | I agree |
| 09:33 | paul | we are looking for a very specific tool because we have a complex scheme & dependancies. |
| 09:33 | for example an "author" can be more than 1 thing. | |
| 09:34 | kados | http://www.namazu.org/doc/tutorial.html#run-mknmz |
| 09:34 | paul | (author, co-author, authority author...) |
| 09:34 | kados | http://59.93.161.79/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi (here is an example of Namzu with a Koha database ... sort of --it's indrag's) |
| 09:34 | right ... all the relevant marc tags/subfields | |
| 09:35 | paul | (ip unreachable) |
| 09:35 | kados | too bad |
| 09:35 | he must have turned off his machine ;-) | |
| 09:35 | slef | is plucene related to lucene? |
| 09:35 | kados | yep ... a perl port (a slow one) |
| 09:35 | paul | my goal is to have a Koha not to hard to install |
| 09:35 | kados | hmmm |
| 09:35 | paul | (s/to/too) |
| 09:36 | slef | lucene was never the fasted IME |
| 09:36 | kados | slef: that explains it ;-) |
| 09:36 | indradg | hi guys |
| 09:36 | paul | hi indradg |
| 09:36 | slef | paul: on that note, can you stop adding undocumented code to the installer, please? |
| 09:36 | kados | slef: do you know of a fast and comprehensive fulltext indexer/search engine? |
| 09:36 | indradg | not shut off... IP changed... ADSL |
| 09:36 | kados | ahh |
| 09:36 | paul | do you think my idea with marc_words should be definetly discarded ? |
| 09:37 | kados | not definitely |
| 09:37 | slef | kados: I've not used searchers much for years. htdig, swish and glimpse were the state of the art back then. |
| 09:37 | kados | but I don't think it's a long term solution |
| 09:37 | paul | slef : what are you talking about ? i haven't commited things on installer since months. |
| 09:37 | kados | we still would have trouble doing boolian searching |
| 09:37 | indradg | kados : http://59.93.166.247/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi |
| 09:37 | slef | We may well find that custom searching is needed, but to do that, we probably need to give a search guru a map of the database |
| 09:37 | paul | kados :not sure, because we can do join, unions... with perl arrays. |
| 09:38 | slef | paul: auto_install. |
| 09:38 | kados | if we use a textual database tool that already exists, all we will have to do is get our marc data into a textual format for easy indexing ... it allows us to easily create indexes of anything we way |
| 09:38 | want | |
| 09:38 | slef | indradg: The requested URL /cgi-bin/whereever you want it to go was not found on this server. |
| 09:38 | paul | slef, OK |
| 09:38 | kados | and it allows us to do complex query syntax without having to reinvent the wheel |
| 09:39 | (and it should be faster) | |
| 09:39 | paul | kados, should I give a try to my idea ? |
| 09:39 | kados | sure ... if you get a script to create marc_words I will try it on NPL data and we can compare to Lucene, Namzu, etc. |
| 09:39 | paul | like some code to build marc_words table & do union/join search on 2 items ? |
| 09:39 | kados | yep |
| 09:39 | let's try iit | |
| 09:39 | it | |
| 09:39 | paul | ok, i'll give it a try asap. |
| 09:40 | another question : | |
| 09:40 | about argentinian code. | |
| 09:40 | you've got it isn't it ? | |
| 09:40 | kados | I haven't heard from emiliano since the last two times I emailed him |
| 09:40 | he hasn't sent me the tar.gz yet | |
| 09:40 | so no ;-) | |
| 09:40 | I'll bug him again | |
| 09:40 | paul | ah, ok. I thought he did it. |
| 09:40 | kados | you will hear when he does ;-) |
| 09:41 | paul | OK, thanks ;-) |
| 09:42 | kados | paul, slef, indradg, anyone else listening: what is a good time for a 'bug squashing session' on #koha? |
| 09:42 | paul | what do you call a "session" ? a bug squashing like an IRC meeting ? |
| 09:42 | kados | yes |
| 09:43 | session is 'period of time' | |
| 09:43 | 'where something is done' | |
| 09:43 | paul | for bug squashing assignment or writing/commiting code in real time ? |
| 09:43 | kados | both |
| 09:43 | we'll step through each bug | |
| 09:43 | and decide: hard/easy | |
| 09:43 | easy ones get squashed in real time | |
| 09:43 | paul | most bugs remaining are hard one. |
| 09:43 | kados | hard ones get assigned |
| 09:44 | paul | i'll have some times for bug squashing in the next weeks. |
| 09:44 | slef | kados: during work hours ;-) |
| 09:44 | paul | thanks to hdl hard work I have some time that i hadn't before. |
| 09:44 | kados | slef: can you give me a range of hours that would work for you? |
| 09:45 | paul | the problem being work hours are differents between NZ / Europe / America :-( |
| 09:45 | kados | right ... well I can work anytime |
| 09:45 | so NZ/Europe is the big prob ;-) | |
| 09:45 | slef | kados: 09:00-17:00 +0000, some evenings 19:00-20:00 or 22:00-00:00 |
| 09:46 | paul | for me it's 7 => 16GMT |
| 09:46 | kados | maybe we can rotate the 'session' times |
| 09:46 | paul | (being GMT+2) |
| 09:46 | kados | right |
| 09:46 | paul | i think an irc meeting for bug assignment would be great, at minimum |
| 09:46 | slef | I can try to do earlier (badly, mostly) but would rather not go late |
| 09:46 | kados | slef: is that GMT? |
| 09:46 | slef | yeah, assignment and bouncing |
| 09:46 | paul | (GTM) |
| 09:46 | slef | kados: well, +0000 |
| 09:47 | kados | ahh |
| 09:47 | slef | is that GMT or UTC? ;-) |
| 09:47 | kados | hehe nice |
| 09:47 | lucky bastard ;-) | |
| 09:47 | paul | isn't it the same thing ? |
| 09:47 | slef | (solar or atomic) |
| 09:47 | no | |
| 09:47 | :) | |
| 09:48 | kados | paul: best times for you (GMT)? |
| 09:48 | hdl: you too? | |
| 09:48 | paul | as you want. |
| 09:48 | best between 12 and 16 (GMT) | |
| 09:48 | hdl | ok. for me. |
| 09:48 | slef | brb, navigating legislation |
| 09:49 | kados | ok ... so 15:00 GMT would work for slef, paul, and hdl |
| 09:49 | how about indradg ? | |
| 09:49 | indradg | right now its 0305 UTC |
| 09:49 | since I'm +0530 GMT | |
| 09:50 | UTC == GMT ? | |
| 09:51 | kados | I think so in practice |
| 09:51 | indradg | that makes to about 7:30 AM IST |
| 09:51 | works for me | |
| 09:55 | kados | ok ... I will propose 15:00 GMT for the first meeting |
| 09:55 | it's 3am in NZ so I doubt we'll get chris to join us | |
| 09:55 | so next meeting we'll have to rotate | |
| 09:57 | shaun | hi slef |
| 09:58 | hdl | kados : which day ? |
| 09:59 | kados | http://tinyurl.com/chp5t |
| 09:59 | Tuesday, May 31 good for all of you? | |
| 09:59 | indradg | kados, makes sense... rotation of meeting time |
| 09:59 | 31st May is good | |
| 10:00 | kados | good ... that way, probably only one continent will be sleeping ;-) |
| 10:00 | for each meeting ;-) | |
| 10:00 | paul | ok for me |
| 10:00 | kados | slef, hdl paul, is Tue the 31 good for you? |
| 10:00 | ok good. | |
| 10:00 | that's quorum then ;-) | |
| 10:00 | paul | 14 would be better |
| 10:00 | (I meanla bibliothèque de sociologie du CNRS | |
| 10:00 | CNRS - UPS 2716 | |
| 10:00 | 59/61 rue Pouchet | |
| 10:00 | 75849 PARIS cedex 17 | |
| 10:01 | oups, sorry) | |
| 10:01 | I mzn 2PM GMT would be sooner & we would have 3 hours behind | |
| 10:01 | (before dinner) | |
| 10:01 | kados | so 14:00 GMT? |
| 10:01 | on Tue 31? | |
| 10:01 | paul | if OK for other, then OK for me. |
| 10:01 | hdl | ok |
| 10:02 | kados | alright I'll write the email |
| 10:02 | indradg | ok |
| 10:02 | hdl | tx. ;) |
| 10:02 | shaun | kados: under which category does the blogging come? just so I know to keep it out of the discussion tonight ;-) |
| 10:05 | kados | shaun: I think blogging would be a fine thing to talk about tonight |
| 10:13 | slef | kados: I think it works. |
| 10:15 | kados | cool |
| 10:22 | shaun | just it wasn't mentioned on the agenda, that's all |
| 10:24 | kados | shaun: I'll add it |
| 10:24 | shaun | great |
| 10:24 | kados | shaun: thanks for the catch |
| 10:30 | slef | any other RSS for the shared blog? |
| 10:31 | indradg | slef, where is the blog being setup? |
| 10:32 | slef | I'll tell you once it looks halfway there |
| 10:32 | could do with more CSS love than I have time for now, but like all good things, rushed CSS doesn't work | |
| 10:34 | indradg | right-o! |
| 10:36 | slef | hrm, kados's feed is breaking it, I think |
| 10:37 | kados | slef: hehe |
| 10:38 | slef: what about my feed is breaking it? (is it timing out?) | |
| 10:38 | slef | it's not detecting your name, for some reason |
| 10:38 | doesn't quite break it, but it looks ugly ;-) | |
| 10:38 | kados | I've got some special chars there ... that might be the problem |
| 10:39 | creen chars | |
| 10:39 | greek chars that is ;-) | |
| 10:39 | slef | as entities too |
| 10:39 | kados | is it the <title> tag causing probs? |
| 10:39 | owen | Seems to validate okay (mostly): http://feedvalidator.org/check[…]m.cgi%2Findex.rss |
| 10:40 | slef | well, minor... mostly it goes "uh, I can't parse that" and drops it on the floor |
| 10:40 | it's at the next pass (copying the latest entries out of the cache) it gets an odd display bug | |
| 10:40 | kados | the <title> or the <language>? |
| 10:41 | slef | title, pretty sure |
| 10:41 | can you try unicode instead of entities? | |
| 10:41 | kados | hum ... I think I did and it didn't work well |
| 10:41 | slef | really, I should update the parser library on that machine ;-) |
| 10:41 | it's >1 year old | |
| 10:42 | ok, I'll bodge this | |
| 10:43 | kados | it validates now |
| 10:43 | slef | ok, I'll try before bodging |
| 10:44 | still broken, bodging | |
| 10:45 | kados | these are utf-8 right? |
| 10:45 | καδος | |
| 10:45 | hehe | |
| 10:45 | slef | damned if I know. Shouldn't matter. |
| 10:46 | kados | I thought they were unicode |
| 10:46 | at the time | |
| 10:47 | slef: here's a chart: | |
| 10:47 | http://www.theorem.ca/~mvcorks[…]art=0370&end=03FF | |
| 10:48 | I'm not sure how to 'write' the numbers (instead of entities) in the html ... do I just do U+03BA | |
| 10:48 | ? | |
| 10:48 | erp ... xml | |
| 10:49 | it doesn't actually print the letter when I view it that way -- just the U+03BA :-( | |
| 10:55 | slef | tum tee tum |
| 10:55 | well, that's not quite what it should be | |
| 10:55 | kados is now known as "unknown" | |
| 10:55 | kados | hehe |
| 10:58 | slef: with this increased activity, now might be a good time to try to revive your webring | |
| 10:58 | I'm sure chris would join | |
| 10:58 | and maybe we could get owen to start a weblog too ;-) | |
| 10:58 | owen | If he wasn't so damn lazy... |
| 10:58 | kados | :-) |
| 11:01 | slef | http://www.otherwayup.org.uk/planets/koha/ is the bodgeup |
| 11:03 | owen | How can we get it not to show non-Koha posts? |
| 11:03 | Is it possible? | |
| 11:03 | kados | with my blog it is |
| 11:03 | slef | non-koha posts? |
| 11:03 | kados | and chris's too |
| 11:03 | slef | just shove whatever you want into the blog I use |
| 11:04 | owen | Maybe it's a question of having each person set up a special feed of only Koha-categoried posts |
| 11:04 | slef | I have a koha feed |
| 11:04 | kados | http://kados.org/cgi-bin/blosx[…]og/koha/index.rss |
| 11:05 | that's my Koha feed | |
| 11:05 | here's chris's: | |
| 11:05 | http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz/[…]om/koha/index.rss | |
| 11:06 | FrancoisL | (ouf!) back from neverending meeting... |
| 11:06 | kados | hey FrancoisL :-) |
| 11:07 | looks nice slef | |
| 11:09 | it would be nice if each 'different' blogger had a unique background color for their 'title' div | |
| 11:09 | slef | kados: you can't write html, you notice? ;-) |
| 11:09 | kados | slef: hehe yep |
| 11:09 | slef | yeah, underlying code needs a rewrite |
| 11:11 | I need to add an html parser as well as the xml, as you're not alone | |
| 11:14 | owen | Strange that some links word and some don't |
| 11:15 | (that is, some are displayed as HTML) | |
| 11:15 | slef | depends if it's valid xhtml |
| 11:15 | one in the top post has an unescaped & | |
| 11:20 | right, sorted out the categories | |
| 11:20 | I'll add it to the tridaily update | |
| 11:23 | kados | huh ... it's not catching everything |
| 11:26 | slef: I'm using rss 2.0 and chris is using .91 fyi |
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