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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 14:11 | owen | I have trouble enough understanding how the *concept* of authorities works, let alone how Koha uses them :( |
| 15:01 | Hi shaun | |
| 15:03 | shaun | hi |
| 15:08 | I haven't had a chance to do any work on koha today - but my new hd is in the server now, with raid enabled, and i have 160 gigs more storage space on this box (now i don't have to randomly delete stuff to be able to work on anything locally) *reading through logs* I'm a performance freak, maybe I should try to get a high-performance mod_perl and mysql combination... *upgrades to mysql 4* :p | |
| 15:09 | owen | Well, note that Joshua said he didn't see any performance improvement under mod_perl. But that's all I know about it. |
| 15:11 | shaun | hmm, theoretically mod_perl would only make a minor improvement, as the heavy stuff is all done by the perl - mysql bit... *investigates fedora/rhel/mysql 4* |
| 15:12 | Ben | hi |
| 15:12 | owen | Hi Ben |
| 15:13 | shaun | hi ben |
| 15:18 | Ben | hmm, seems eventless this evening.. |
| 15:19 | any luck on the argentinians? | |
| 15:19 | owen | Give it more time. Paul said yesterday the relevant folks were going to be at a conference this week and next week. Paul's going to re-contact them after that. |
| 15:20 | Ben | goodo |
| 15:21 | shaun | *moves server back out to conservatory* |
| 15:24 | Ben | so /me is doing it |
| 15:26 | shaun | o...i am working on the typed document (or i was...) |
| 15:26 | Ben | okie doke |
| 15:26 | is that the speech then? | |
| 15:27 | I asked you a while ago to come up with some formatting | |
| 15:28 | which will be usable on the school pcs.. | |
| 15:28 | shaun | to other devs: i am (we are?) writing a document on the advantages of koha over other ILS that could be used in schools, particularly ALICE, OLIVER, Liberty3 and cards ;) - we will release it under GFDL, if anyone else wants to use it... |
| 15:28 | Ben | how does Palatino Linotype grab you for the title? |
| 15:29 | it looks nice at 48pt | |
| 15:29 | is lucida sans on the school computers? | |
| 15:29 | shaun? | |
| 15:31 | shaun | umm, this is a printed document - as long as i have it installed on my system, it's fine |
| 15:32 | Ben | I know. |
| 15:33 | however, in case you have not been reading what I have written, I am writing a presentation to be delivered. Is lucida sans on the school computers? | |
| 15:33 | shaun | she asked specifically for a written document. |
| 15:34 | Ben | I know that |
| 15:34 | is lucida sans on the school computers? | |
| 15:34 | shaun | i presume so... |
| 15:34 | Ben | good |
| 15:34 | finally.. | |
| 15:35 | what is the verb form of administrator? administer or administrate? | |
| 15:35 | shaun | why are you producing a presentation when we need a proposal as a written document? |
| 15:35 | Ben | because I am. |
| 15:35 | what is the verb form of administrator? administer or administrate? | |
| 15:36 | owen | Administrationify |
| 15:36 | shaun | lol |
| 15:36 | Ben | I am not going to try to explain why to you or what I propose to do, since you have made up your mind and are not going to change it |
| 15:37 | shaun | http://haileris.com/cgi-bin/dict?administrate |
| 15:37 | in the same context, http://haileris.com/cgi-bin/dict?root | |
| 15:38 | Ben | lol |
| 15:39 | shaun | see http://haileris.com/cgi-bin/dict?hacker and http://haileris.com/cgi-bin/dict?cracker :D |
| 15:40 | kados | hi everyone |
| 15:41 | shaun | hi kados |
| 15:41 | kados | shaun: you'll want at least mysql 4.0 because it's got the query cache |
| 15:41 | this helps out Koha quite a bit | |
| 15:41 | owen | hi kados |
| 15:41 | kados | you'll also want to tweak my.cnf based on your hardware and the size of your database |
| 15:43 | for example | |
| 15:43 | here are some settings from NPLS: | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = key_buffer=1024M | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = max_allowed_packet=16M | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = table_cache=512 | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = sort_buffer_size=2M | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = record_buffer=2M | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = thread_cache=8 | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = query_cache_size=128M | |
| 15:43 | # Try number of CPU's*2 for thread_concurrency | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = thread_concurrency=2 | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = myisam_sort_buffer_size=64M | |
| 15:43 | set-variable = tmp_table_size=128M | |
| 15:44 | there should be a my-huge.cnf somewhere in your install that should give you some good docs on the variables and what they mean ... also see the mysql manual | |
| 15:44 | we have 2 gigs of ram so if you have less that that you could really screw things up by using the above variables btw ;-) | |
| 15:45 | and some of the variables switch names from version to version so be careful there too | |
| 15:45 | shaun | how many people who use koha on servers use some form of red hat? how about non-linux *nix variants? and how many are still on mysql <4? (to your knowledge, not asking for a survey ;) ) |
| 15:46 | Ben | gtg, bye |
| 15:46 | kados | I think we're the only production system on a red hat variant |
| 15:46 | paul uses mandrake | |
| 15:46 | katipo uses debian | |
| 15:46 | (we use debian too ;-)) | |
| 15:46 | shaun | which rh variant is it? |
| 15:46 | kados | RC3 |
| 15:46 | that's FC3 ;-) | |
| 15:47 | good stuff may come of it some day ;-) | |
| 15:47 | it's still just a baby | |
| 15:47 | but it's kina cute ;-) | |
| 15:47 | shaun | o (im running it here - did you get mysql 4 working from rpms or source of some sort?) |
| 15:47 | kados | I use the official rpms on the mysql site |
| 15:48 | you'll need the backwards compat rpms too | |
| 15:48 | for some of the libraries that Koha depends on | |
| 15:48 | things like dbi and dbd iirc | |
| 16:02 | two good lines | |
| 16:03 | shaun | ??? |
| 16:03 | kados | sorry ... |
| 16:03 | wrong # | |
| 16:15 | log "/home/jmf/koha.log" | |
| 16:15 | oops | |
| 16:15 | :-) | |
| 16:19 | owen | kados has slippery fingers ;) |
| 16:21 | shaun | gtg, bye |
| 17:36 | tim | Just looking back on things I missed. Wouldn't Mandrake be a Red Hat variant? |
| 22:21 | indradg | hi all |
| 22:22 | morning | |
| 22:24 | rach | morning |
| 22:25 | indradg | rach, RHEL 4 was released in my city (Calcutta) yesterday |
| 22:27 | I had quite a good discussion with both Redhat and Intel guys looking after the education tech stack in India abt the possibility of having Koha + a CMS system being made available through their distribution n/w in India | |
| 22:28 | its all very early, but the signs are quite positive :) | |
| 22:29 | rach | excellent |
| 22:29 | rebecca? | |
| 22:29 | bex? | |
| 22:29 | indradg | sorry? |
| 22:29 | rach | wrong channel |
| 22:30 | indradg | heh |
| 22:30 | no probs |
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