IRC log for #koha, 2025-02-11

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11:53 mbridge [mattermost] <smoeast-library> I have about 15 minutes right now, to answer your question from yesterday, this is an ubuntu server 24.11 with xRDP and XFCE4 installed on it because I am not used to everything via CLI so to minimize switching between the RDP session and my computer, I have the chat open in a browser.
11:54 [mattermost] <jpahd> Alright.
11:57 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> so it is stioll doing this: : https://chat.koha-community.or[…]XtWrK8ZKns6pVIPpE
12:03 [mattermost] <jpahd> I think you need to chown the plugins dir to the instance user.
12:04 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> What does that mean?
12:06 [mattermost] <jpahd> Let's start by this:
12:06 [mattermost] <jpahd> `ls -al /var/lib/koha/<instance>/plugins`
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20:50 mbridge [mattermost] <smoeast-library> 2 things,
20:50 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> 1. root@KohaServer:/home/LibraryUser# ls -al /var/lib/koha/<instance>/plugins
20:50 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> bash: instance: No such file or directory
20:50 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> 2. When I did not see your message, I was trying to get it to work and I had an AI(Perplexity)  telling me what to do, so it made me change something in a php file and now I get this error when trying to access koha:
20:50 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> Service Unavailable
20:50 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> ===================
20:50 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
20:50 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> * * *
20:50 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> Apache/2.4.58 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8078
20:52 [mattermost] <jpahd> Try to retrace your steps or reinstall.
20:52 [mattermost] <jpahd> This is just a personal install, right?
20:53 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> It is for a Church but we have not catalogued books yet, but we did mostly set it up to be ready for use.
20:54 [mattermost] <jpahd> Right, now I vaguely remember something.
20:55 [mattermost] <jpahd> Anyway I don't know what exactly you did so it's hard to help.
20:56 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> Probably would be hard to look at, at this point but these were the instructions it was giving me:
20:56 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> https://www.perplexity.ai/sear[…]R0aBQ0GNiY2f7w#65
20:56 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> It had me update PHP and change some max upload file stuff but when it made koha stop working it told me to uninstall it.
21:04 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> Is PHP needed for koha, if so does it need a specific version?
21:05 [mattermost] <jpahd> We don't have any PHP in Koha.
21:07 [mattermost] <jpahd> It't funny because Perplexity seems to have interpreted perl as PHP. Didn't run into that one very often. Especially in the early days of commercially available LLMs, they often mistook it for python for some reason
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21:07 mbridge [mattermost] <smoeast-library> So is there something I can do to prevent reinstalling?
21:08 [mattermost] <jpahd> Well if you are not able to reverse the changes, it's probably reinstalling.
21:09 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> Is there a way to backup the settings? or are there logs that I should check?
21:10 [mattermost] <jpahd> If you updated the source itself, there are no logs of that.
21:11 [mattermost] <jpahd> You can do a database dump (just google it). But today it's again to late to walk you through it, sorry.
21:11 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> What do you mean the source?
21:11 [mattermost] <jpahd> The source code.
21:11 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> Ok, thanks fo you help, I am going to see if I can find a backup of my azure server.
21:12 [mattermost] <jpahd> Just backup the database.
21:12 [mattermost] <jpahd> That'll be cheaper.
21:15 [mattermost] <smoeast-library> I dont pay for the azure server since it is a nonprofit, we get grants from azure/microsoft
21:16 [mattermost] <jpahd> That's cool.
21:17 [mattermost] <jpahd> Still, the db backup will allow you to restore what with spend time on. A backup of the VPSs disk just gives you the messed up instance.
21:17 [mattermost] <jpahd> Still, the db backup will allow you to restore what you spent time on. A backup of the VPSs disk just gives you the messed up instance.
21:18 [mattermost] <jpahd> Of course with the db state, but it's less precise.
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