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| 01:45 | THiera_ joined #koha | |
| 01:45 | THiera_ | Hi |
| 06:03 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 06:04 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:21 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 06:32 | matts | hello ! |
| 06:43 | magnuse | kia ora matts! and happy birthday that was |
| 06:44 | matts | thank you magnuse :) |
| 06:56 | thd | pauldersheid[m]: Did you receive my email about general mailing list contacts from two weeks ago? |
| 07:07 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:16 | thibaud_g joined #koha | |
| 07:35 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 07:53 | Fixing patron search problem from bug 36302 quickly right now - will be back in the afternoon then for more pushes. | |
| 07:53 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36302 critical, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, Pushed to master , Patron search from search bar broken |
| 08:21 | PedroAmorim[m] | \o |
| 08:37 | cait | o/ |
| 09:33 | paulderscheid[m] | Morning #koha |
| 09:33 | thd yes | |
| 09:36 | thd | pauldersheid[m]: I have subsequently discovered that the mailgate service we are using to send mail for the wiki and some other services does not attach DKIM signatures nor have a DMARC record. |
| 09:38 | pauldersheid[m]: I have been working on a Postfix mail relay to fix the problem. The mailgate service may still be valuable for maintaining mail IP address reputation but mail needs to go first to another server which applies a DKIM signature. | |
| 09:39 | pauldersheid[m]: I have things almost working now for docker-mailserver after starting with some simpler Postfix mail relays in Docker containers. | |
| 09:42 | pauldersheid[m]: In the past two weeks there were two people for whom I had to set passwords manually on the command line because lack of DKIM directly from secure-mailgate was leading even a library mail system in one case to block the account confirmation email and not even leave it in spam. | |
| 09:43 | s/set passwords/set wiki passwords/ | |
| 09:45 | pauldersheid[m]: Configuring a mail server on the host system is much easier than the supposedly user friendly interface to Postfix etc. provided by cotainerised mail servers with some mysterious options unique to the particular container. | |
| 09:46 | s/particular container/particular container configuration design/ | |
| 09:54 | pauldersheid[m]: An hour ago I had mail relaying from a testing instance of the wiki to docker-mailserver providing a DKIM signature and then to secure-mailgate for sending. However, my last setting change did the wrong thing and broke authentication from Dovecot in docker-mailserver becasuse ENABLE_SASLAUTHD=1 turns off Postfix SMTPD authentication provided by Dovecot over the Postfix smptd port, not the Dovecot port, for docker-mailserver. | |
| 09:59 | pauldersheid[m]: docker-mailserver seems to have some nonstandard implementation of virtual mailboxes for them to be managed by Dovecot but not Postfix. | |
| 10:00 | s/non-standard/uncommon/ | |
| 10:06 | alohabot joined #koha | |
| 10:11 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 10:13 | thd | tcohen: Is that really you? |
| 10:38 | mtj | hi cait, about now :) |
| 10:39 | hi Joubu, will finish off bug 35614 now | |
| 10:39 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35614 major, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Update cpanfile for Mojolicious::Plugin::OpenAPI v5.09 |
| 11:05 | tcohen | hola |
| 11:05 | thd | hola |
| 11:06 | tcohen: Did you see my IRC message from late in the day yesterday about wiki backup completeness? | |
| 11:06 | tcohen | I haven't |
| 11:07 | thd | tcohen: I may have discovered a deficiency with wiki backups. The gzipped SQL file backup file included in srv.tar.gz posted to Nextcloud is only current for the wiki.test database which is necessarily not current content. The backup in daily/srv/mariadb_10_6/mysql/mariadb_10_6_wiki.sql.gz has updated dates but despite the name of the file seems to be the wiki.test database. |
| 11:07 | tcohen: I was able to restore the database from the backup of /var/lib/docker/volumes from var_lib_docker_volumes.tar.gz but the current Gzipped SQL file in srv.tar.gz does not seem to include the current wiki database and may mistakenly have the wrong name. | |
| 11:07 | tcohen | is there a problem with the wiki? |
| 11:07 | I will check the backup scripts | |
| 11:08 | thd | No everything is more than fine with the wiki generally. |
| 11:08 | tcohen | we put the backups on an external service |
| 11:08 | so I have doubts about what's in that 'daily' directory | |
| 11:08 | but you might be right | |
| 11:08 | let me check and come back to you | |
| 11:09 | thd | I looked closely at the backups in the wake of the wiki going down for several hours in what might have been hardware failure. |
| 11:09 | When the wiki was restored, nothing appeared to be lost. | |
| 11:11 | Did the hosting company explain what had happened? It seemed unlikely that even a daily snapshot would not have lost something in the interval. | |
| 11:14 | tcohen: In other news, I have an improvement for mail services with DKIM signing on a Postfix relay then to secure-mailgate which does not do DKIM signing. | |
| 11:14 | paulderscheid[m] | When does the meeting start? |
| 11:14 | thd | I believe in 45 min. |
| 11:15 | tcohen | paulderscheid[m] I don't know, I just woke up |
| 11:15 | hehe | |
| 11:15 | paulderscheid[m] | maybe in 45 min, cait? |
| 11:16 | * thd | has not slept for testing a Postfix relay service. |
| 11:16 | tcohen | thd that sounds great |
| 11:17 | thd | tcohen: I have the mail relay working in docker-mailserver. Doing this directly on the host would be much easier but maybe docker-mailserver has some small portability advantage. |
| 11:18 | cait | oh no |
| 11:18 | sorry | |
| 11:18 | did i mess up the meeting time? | |
| 11:19 | ah ok, in 40 minutes, phew | |
| 11:19 | thd | tcohen: I had to set passwords on the command line for a couple of new wiki users because without DKIM they never received an email confirmation message nor would they receive a reset password message. |
| 11:20 | paulderscheid[m] | gcal says it's 2PM in our time |
| 11:20 | tcohen | yeah, same problem with jenkins notifications |
| 11:20 | paulderscheid[m] | our = europe/berlin |
| 11:21 | thd | I was surprised to discover that secure-mailgate was not applying DKIM signatures but that is apparently not part of their service. |
| 11:22 | Mail sender IP reputation management is still important and difficult. | |
| 11:25 | Some of my systems are blocked for delivering mail to current default Postfix instances because myVPS.hostingcompany.com does not have a DNS record matching my IP address even though my own domain for the IP address does. | |
| 11:27 | There may be a correction for such problems but they are outside my control as the user of the VPS. | |
| 11:32 | * cait | shakes her first at the yellow jenkins icon |
| 11:33 | cait | mtj: did you see fridolin's email? |
| 11:34 | mtj | hi cait, oops... just read it |
| 11:39 | tcohen | someone said jenkins? |
| 11:54 | cait | tcohen: I have a perlcirtic failure I don't ndertand on the left |
| 11:54 | D10 | |
| 11:55 | tcohen | Joubu is it possible to make the commit hooks work within KTD without those 'docker not found' warnings? |
| 11:56 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu" (43 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/41344 |
| 11:58 | cait | meeting in 3 minutes! |
| 11:58 | Jitsi room is open | |
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| 11:59 | cait | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 3 April 2024 |
| 11:59 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Apr 3 11:59:29 2024 UTC. The chair is cait. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 11:59 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 11:59 | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_3_april_2024' | |
| 11:59 | cait | #topic Introductions |
| 11:59 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_3_April_2024 Agenda | |
| 12:00 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany | |
| 12:00 | paulderscheid[m] | #info Paul Derscheid, LMSCloud GmbH, Germany |
| 12:02 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi |
| 12:02 | EmmiTakkinen[m] | #info Emmi Takkinen, Koha-Suomi Oy, Finland |
| 12:03 | cait | #chair tcohen |
| 12:03 | huginn` | Current chairs: cait tcohen |
| 12:03 | cait | #topic Announcements |
| 12:03 | #info Hackfest in Marseille is next week! | |
| 12:05 | #info thd might have a fix for the email issues with the wiki | |
| 12:05 | thd++ | |
| 12:06 | domm[m]: are you around maybe? | |
| 12:07 | talking about the email configuration | |
| 12:07 | emlam joined #koha | |
| 12:08 | emlam | #info Emily Lamancusa, MCPL, USA |
| 12:09 | cait | #topic Update from the Release manager |
| 12:11 | #topic Updates from the Release maintainers | |
| 12:11 | #info RM will try to empty queue as much as possible before next week, lots of QA has been done over Easter holidays | |
| 12:12 | #info Release should happen today! | |
| 12:12 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 12:12 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 12:14 | cait | #info QA queue is pretty full, please QA! |
| 12:15 | #topic Status of roadmap projects | |
| 12:15 | #info tcohen working on the holds table merge (reserves, old_reserves) | |
| 12:16 | #info tcohen will be testing a new pipeline for building ktd images on gitlab | |
| 12:22 | #topic paulderscheid[m] using SMTP settings from HKS3 now for the Discourse project. Stuck on not being able to use DKIM which creates a problem sending to Google/Outlook | |
| 12:23 | #action paulderscheid[m] and thd to figure out if the same mail solution as for the wiki can be used | |
| 12:28 | #action cait to set a date for moving master to main after the hackfest (trying not to break workflows right now) | |
| 12:29 | #info bugs with easy to re-do notices in TT are marked with Academy | |
| 12:31 | #info TT switch: items.fine and some custom parameters need to be figured out in the code | |
| 12:31 | #chair emlam | |
| 12:31 | huginn` | Current chairs: cait emlam tcohen |
| 12:32 | cait | #topic Security bugs and news |
| 12:34 | bug 35984 | |
| 12:34 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35984 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , automated static code analysis should include security tests |
| 12:35 | tcohen | #info Evelyn and Tomas to contact german company offering static code analysis with Perl support |
| 12:36 | cait | #info API still needs some CSRF work |
| 12:37 | #topic Actions from last meeting | |
| 12:37 | #info No actions from last meeting! | |
| 12:37 | #topic General development discussion | |
| 12:38 | #info tcohen's proposal for REST API: Make our returns consistent when something doesn't exist | |
| 12:40 | #info We are leaning towards having specific returns: patron X doesn't exist etc. | |
| 12:41 | #info tcohen's review turned up a lot of inconsistencies to work on | |
| 12:44 | fridolin joined #koha | |
| 12:45 | fridolin | hi |
| 12:45 | cait | #topic Reviewof coding guidelines |
| 12:46 | #action tcohen to write a guildeline for the API returns when work has gone through QA | |
| 12:46 | #topic Any other business | |
| 12:51 | caroline | I just came in, I can give an update on kohacon if you wish |
| 12:52 | cait | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 12:53 | #topic KohaCon24 | |
| 12:53 | will you come into Jitsi or do you ant to type it up? | |
| 12:53 | caroline | oh I forgot it was video meetings now |
| 12:53 | give me a few seconds | |
| 12:53 | thd | Yes, caroline but you can also type. |
| 12:54 | cait | #info CfP and workshops is still open until end of April |
| 12:55 | #info Preliminary program to be sent later this month | |
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| 12:56 | cait | #info Information on hotels and special booking coditions is in the works |
| 12:58 | #info Presentations will be streamed online, no plans for online workshops yet | |
| 12:59 | #info Registrations will probably open by the end of the month/May | |
| 13:00 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 13:01 | #info Next meeting: 17 April 2024, 12 UTC | |
| 13:01 | #endmeeting | |
| 13:01 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Apr 3 13:01:49 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 13:01 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-04-03-11.59.html | |
| 13:01 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]4-04-03-11.59.txt | |
| 13:01 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]03-11.59.log.html | |
| 13:07 | domm[m] | cait: Sorry, I was offline. But regarding mail/DKIM we're investigating this with the mail provider |
| 13:16 | puphaus[m] | Hi together :) I just read about the security updates and wanted to tell that on the page for 22.11.16 update ( the https://koha-community.org/koh[…]2-11-16-released/ ) the securitybugs are not listed :) |
| 13:22 | magnuse | gah, missed the meeting |
| 13:22 | is it possible to move a hold/reserve from one record to another in koha? | |
| 13:25 | ah nm, bug 31698 | |
| 13:25 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31698 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add ability to move a hold to a new biblio/item |
| 13:52 | Joubu | tcohen: "docker not found" - yes we can certainly remove the warning, but the tests won't run. You can still use --no-verify. |
| 13:55 | tcohen | yeah, I was trying not to use --no-verify |
| 13:57 | Joubu | then startup your docker container ;) |
| 13:57 | cait | puphaus[m]: you can refer to the other release notes if they are listed there - they should all hve the same fixes |
| 13:57 | Joubu | we could skip the tests if the container is not running, and display a nicer warning |
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| 14:04 | Joubu | fredericd: this is for you: 22.11 release notes do not contain sec bugs. |
| 14:05 | fredericd: 36244 for instance | |
| 14:05 | The branch for this version of Koha and future bugfixes in this release | |
| 14:05 | line is 22.11.x-security. | |
| 14:05 | this also needs adjustement it seems ^ | |
| 14:05 | (too late for this time, but maybe it needs to be fixed in the release-tools script) | |
| 14:17 | puphaus[m] | cait: yeah i looked at the other versions but i thought it would be good if i would inform about that bug :) |
| 14:17 | cait | true, I just wanted to provide you immediate help |
| 14:20 | puphaus[m] | that's was really nice from you, thank you! |
| 14:26 | thd | tcohen: I need to sleep now but I should be able to provide a non-messy set of config files for docker-mailserver acting as a mailserver which provides DKIM signatures before relaying them on to secure-mailgate. The default has a large file of environment variables which we mostly do not need to set to a value but I do not know if excluding all the variable= with nothing after the '=' might break something. Some of those environment variables |
| 14:26 | might need to be defined or set as having no value for which they have a default value as distinct from being unset or undefined which might produce a problem. | |
| 14:36 | paulderscheid[m] | So just to be clear. 22.11.16 contains the CSRF fixes? |
| 14:36 | cait | not the big fixes that are in master, no |
| 14:36 | paulderscheid[m] | Huh? |
| 14:36 | cait | they are not to be backported, some smaller stuff has |
| 14:37 | the big patch set that we froze master for is not going to be backported | |
| 14:37 | but it contains a lot of important security fixes anyway | |
| 14:38 | paulderscheid[m] | Ok |
| 14:38 | That's good to know. I completely misunderstood the state then. | |
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| 14:39 | paulderscheid[m] | Thanks cait |
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| 14:46 | domm[m] | ups, I clicked on the mark-as-resolved button on the vue-discussion in the hackfest doc, and now the discussion is gone |
| 14:46 | anybody knows how to undo that? | |
| 14:48 | ah, found it... sorry | |
| 15:00 | aude_c[m] | Hello, may I ask about Bug 20447 please... Has been signed off or has it not been signed off?! (Sorry for getting confused) |
| 15:00 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20447 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Add support for MARC holdings records |
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| 15:04 | paulderscheid[m] | Currently not signed off it seems. |
| 15:06 | On the other hand all attachments seem to have been signed off. | |
| 15:08 | aude_c[m] | Thanks! I'm glad I'm not the only one for whom it looked confusing :D |
| 15:09 | Also, paulderscheid while you're still here... Are any libraries you're working with using your Room Reservations plugin? | |
| 15:10 | paulderscheid[m] | Yes, like 5 or so |
| 15:10 | aude_c[m] | Great. We have a library that may be interested! |
| 15:10 | paulderscheid[m] | Cool, would love you folks getting involved :D |
| 15:11 | aude_c[m] | (But we're making them wait until after their upgrade... So in a couple of months we'll know whether they still want to try it out.) |
| 15:11 | Will let you know if they take it up! | |
| 15:11 | But if you have public examples they could look at, I'm sure they'd be grateful | |
| 15:13 | paulderscheid[m] | Yes, I will add a bit of stuff to the README |
| 15:14 | aude_c[m] | Brilliant, thank you |
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| 19:15 | tacksline | good afternoon |
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| 22:09 | dcook | . |
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| 23:38 | mtj | hi tcohen, could we setup a jenkins build to test packages in the koha-staging/exp release/suite/pocket? |
| 23:40 | ...this would allow us to use jenkins to test new packages, without potentially breaking sandboxes and developer systems | |
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