IRC log for #koha, 2024-03-26

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06:59 reiveune hello
07:15 magnuse \o/
07:18 Joubu @later tell dcook can you have a look at 36349 please?
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08:05 * cait waves
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09:35 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
09:42 cait morning paulderscheid[m], morning #koha
09:42 paulderscheid[m] morning cait
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09:53 shohl hi everyone!
09:54 quick question: what is the default behaviour for deleting action logs? it seems our cronjobs do not delete the action log and the table ballooned to the biggest one in our whole koha database
09:55 cait it depends on what you want to delete - I think the cleanup_database.pl job takes parmeters for modules etc.
09:55 we delete the AuthSuccessLog and AuthFailureLog with a different delay than other logs for example
09:55 shohl yes, but is everybody else keeping the logs for ever?
09:56 cait i guess it depends
09:56 shohl our cron logs like this: `koha-foreach --chdir --enabled --noemail /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl --confirm --mail`, i think its the default
09:56 cait for circulation statistics the statisticas table is the more important one I would say
09:56 have a closer look at cleanup_database - it has a lot of options for deleting different kind of data
09:56 but since librareis are very different, they are not set up by default
09:56 shohl hm ok
09:57 currently its the table 101gb on disc :D
09:57 cait that IS a lot
09:57 maybe check which modules are the biggest for you
09:58 if you have catalouginglog activated, that could explain - it logs the whole marc record for a change
09:59 it can be super useful, but we don't activate it for that reason
10:03 shohl so everything in "Logging preferences" goes into action_logs?
10:05 cait yes
10:07 shohl thanks
10:09 background_jobs is also quite big, with 11gb
10:09 is that a reasonable size for that table?  :D
10:10 cait not really
10:11 there is also an option to delete these regularly in the cleanup_database options
10:11 I think we have like 8 days or so (it only cleans finished ones)
10:11 for a bigger system other settings might make sense
10:11 shohl ok, I will look into it
10:11 cait beware that deleting the data might not free the space
10:12 I think that requires taking soem other steps with mysql/mariadb
10:14 to shrnk the db back
10:39 oleonard o/
10:40 magnuse \o
10:40 isn't it very early for you oleonard?
10:41 oleonard Well, it *is* early, but normal time for me to start working these days
10:42 magnuse ah ok, guess it's later than it felt like...
10:42 anyone want some snow? we have about 35 cm to spare
10:44 oleonard magnuse: My kids would take the 5cm required to close the schools around here :)
10:45 * magnuse grabs a shovel and a box and heads out
10:48 cait brb, switching locations
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11:00 ashimema lol
11:00 * ashimema is pushing his scss skills today.. it's been a while since I've done anything remotely complicated with css
11:02 oleonard You can do it ashimema
11:07 ashimema 🙂
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12:20 tcohen hola #koha o/
12:21 cait hola tcohen
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12:27 LuisRukscha[m] * Hi all, I am trying to use the DB of a very old Koha instance (3.22.05) in a new server with the latest version installed. I imported the DB and when run "koha-upgrade-schema instance" I get the error:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]yLzHaFvFhCTBThfaC>)
12:28 s/koha_baker/INSTANCE/, s/koha_baker/INSTANCE/
12:33 PedroAmorim[m] @later tell Joubu can you have a look at 36302 please?
12:33 huginn` PedroAmorim[m]: The operation succeeded.
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12:42 cait LuisRukscha[m]: it might be a problem with the newer dbms version - you need to identify the database update that fails and try to do the change in your database
12:43 I am not sure if the older update lists the version it tries to updte to, missing it in your output
12:43 they are all numbered ususally
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12:54 cait tcohen: could you have a look at the newest jenkins fails maybe?
12:59 Bug 36429
13:00 mtj hey team, just checking in
13:00 hi cait, sorry to msg your msg before
13:05 release tags look good
13:08 hi lukeg: can you push new tag for 22.11 🍕😍🍻
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13:34 ashimema Joubu around?
13:36 lukeg mtj: I think you want frederic for 22.11 tags
13:39 Joubu yes
14:02 mtj hi Joubu, tcohen... shall we arrange a time to add the security builds to jenkins, after this release?
14:04 Joubu https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Sec/ ?
14:06 all unstable, nice
14:08 tcohen Isn't it nice to have homogeneous colors?
14:08 caroline lol!
14:10 mtj Joubu: ooh, looks good
14:12 i think i overcomplicated my solution, where only certain some users have access to the SEC build logs
14:13 ..i realise now that the logs dont contain any sensitive info :)
14:14 lukeg: oops, thanks for the correction ^
14:14 tcohen Joubu: is that sec run current? or has already been solved on stables/master?
14:15 cait: ?
14:15 mtj fredericd: did you sort your KTD stuff on your mac/osx system? (sorry for late reply)
14:16 tcohen is anyone working on t/db_dependent/Cache?
14:18 mtj bug 36429 ?
14:18 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36429 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/db_dependent/Cache.t fails on D11
14:18 mtj hi tcohen, that problem? ^
14:21 Joubu no idea, tcohen
14:21 cait sorry, was in a meeting, what's up?
14:22 I thought all tags were there when I checked this morning
14:22 I saw Frederic's
14:26 still see it in the security repo history
14:27 mtj hi cait, i think we are waiting for v23.05.10 tag?, from lukeg
14:28 hi Joubu: could we get a Koha_22.05 build for SEC, too?
14:30 cait ah yes, lukeg said he will finish until end of day today
14:32 Joubu mtj: I am not the one who created those builds
14:32 cait I think tcohen worked on those
14:32 tcohen anyone reproduced the Cache.t failure locally
14:32 mtj aah ok, tcohen ^
14:32 cait just checking, do you need something from me right now?
14:33 tcohen: not me :(
14:33 tcohen me neither
14:33 cait tcohen: it starts to feel personal with Jenkins ;)
14:35 tcohen with all of us
14:36 mtj: done
14:37 mtj ta
14:38 tcohen: did we move default ktd builds from d11 to d12?
14:39 seems no, shall we do that?
14:41 tcohen don't do anything heh
14:41 propose it, we discuss and review
14:41 and make an informed decision altogether
14:41 it would make sense for master, IMHO
14:41 mtj yes, and yes :)
15:41 tcohen who maintains 22.05?
15:41 cait No "afternoon pushes" today - I need to take care of something else today, will do some extra tomorrow ;)
15:42 tcohen I need to upgrade Jenkins toda
15:42 y
15:42 cait tcohen: Wainui and Danyon
15:42 tcohen have they said something about tests failing?
15:42 I could fix them...
15:51 cait please offer, I am sure they would be glad to have some help
15:52 * cait takes RM hat off
15:52 cait someone to SO Bug 33237 maybe? It's been bugging us since the update
15:52 * cait puts RM hat back on
15:56 ashimema .
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16:04 ashimema I'll QA that one once I'm back from school run.  Seem to remember that code fairly well
16:06 Joubu no tests, FQA, it's an easy one :D
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16:08 ashimema Lol, I hadn't got that far.. still on my the phone
16:09 Grr, it's like a year old this code.. suppose I'll end up writing those tests for them or it'll just get stuck forever 😔
16:14 LindaSmith Hello. I think the screen I am seeing on my private Koha setup is the ILS and not the OPAC. How do I reach the OPAC?
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16:24 ClaudioChavarra[m] Hola, buen día. Necesitaría si me pueden indicar dónde puedo bajar koha para instalar en windowa?
16:24 windows?
16:25 Hello good morning. I would need if you could tell me where I can download koha to install on Windows
16:25 muchas gracias.
16:27 caroline LindaSmith, I'm not the expert, but I think it depends on the url for the staff interface, usually, there is like -intra somewhere, and you remove that and get the opac
16:28 ClaudioChavarra[m], I don't think it's possible, it needs to be debian or ubuntu
16:29 LindaSmith caroline: thanks!
16:29 ClaudioChavarra[m] existe algún paquete que instale debian o ubuntu en un entorno windows y que contenga koha?
16:30 Is there a package that installs debian or ubuntu in a Windows environment and contains koha?
16:31 caroline ClaudioChavarra[m], No I think those are two separate things... maybe a virtual ubuntu or debina virtual machine on the windows machine and install Koha using the packages
16:35 ClaudioChavarra[m] Gracias!
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17:12 LindaSmith Am I right to assume, that when it comes to Koha themes, most people will not be editing templates to have some custom OPAC, but simpy doing CSS tweaking for colors and other changes......but overall changing how items are listed or changing menus, etc etc...this stuff can get really messy
17:17 oleonard LindaSmith: Correct
17:17 LindaSmith oleonard: thank you
17:21 oleonard: would it be reasonable if I just let OPAC be, apply basic CSS theming, but say I want a custom home page, could I use the REST API to handle that, eg. display X latest books and do my own layout and have the login form too
17:22 oleonard I would say that's theoretically possible depending on whether the API provides what you need.
17:24 LindaSmith oleonard: thanks
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18:06 tcohen rmaints
18:06 rmaints?
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22:10 dcook .
22:10 @later tell Joubu Ok I'll make some time for 36349 today
22:11 huginn` dcook: The operation succeeded.
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