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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:40 | tuxayo | wiki down indeed |
| 00:42 | plus api doc, jenkins and portainer | |
| 00:42 | @later tell tcohen portainer down | |
| 00:42 | huginn` | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 00:53 | tuxayo | Any opinion about the phrasing of the options of new sysprefs from bug 34643? It's about giving more granularity for CircConfirmItemParts (by introducing CircConfirmItemPartsSCI and CircConfirmItemPartsSCO) |
| 00:53 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34643 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Split CircConfirmItemParts for self-checkout and self-checkin |
| 00:53 | tuxayo | The existing phrasing is : |
| 00:53 | CircConfirmItemParts: **Don't require** staff to confirm that all parts of an item are present at checkin/checkout. | |
| 00:53 | CircConfirmItemParts: **Require** staff to confirm that all parts of an item are present at checkin/checkout. | |
| 00:53 | The new is: | |
| 00:53 | CircConfirmItemPartsSCI: **Allow** multi-part items to be checked in via the web-based self check-in or self checkout modules. | |
| 00:53 | CircConfirmItemPartsSCI: **Don't allow** multi-part items to be checked in via the web-based self check-in or self checkout modules. | |
| 00:53 | CircConfirmItemPartsSCO: **Allow** multi-part items to be checked out via the web-based self checkout module. | |
| 00:53 | CircConfirmItemPartsSCO: **Don't allow** multi-part items to be checked out via the web-based self checkout module. | |
| 00:57 | It seems we have to use require for legacy one and allow for the new ones due to the context they are used. | |
| 01:01 | But the swap in meaning (Allow is permissive and require is about enforcing) confuses me for some reason. I wonder if that's avoidable. And the "don't" having the meaning "disabled" for CircConfirmItemParts and "enabled" for CircConfirmItemPartsSCI and CircConfirmItemPartsSCO is also confusing. | |
| 01:02 | 😵💫 | |
| 01:03 | So insight is welcome on this ^^ | |
| 01:11 | davidnind | The new phrasing seems OK to me |
| 01:38 | tuxayo | davidnind-away: thanks, then I can move on, it's just classic non native speaker confusion :) |
| 01:50 | thd | davidnind: I posted some messages to you a little later than this hour yesterday explaining that I may have identified why a few users had trouble receiving the wiki email confirmation messages. |
| 01:51 | davidnind: I confirmed an email account yesterday for someone reporting no confirmation message. | |
| 01:52 | davidnind: I will have to set a password for her on the command line when the server running the wiki is functioning again. | |
| 01:54 | davidnind: secure-mailgate.com is serving the messages for the wiki and Joubu is asking how we can set DKIM signatures for messages there. | |
| 01:59 | davidnind: Mostly library organisation email systems which people use allow messages to pass without DKIM or DMARC but the library system from yesterday is an exception. The mail system was working for the wiki before the wiki server went down. The problem was about authentication that email messages have the content and origin which the message headers claim. | |
| 02:13 | davidnind | thd: thanks for sorting out - for the last month things have been looking OK. Most registrations have been having confirmed show up. There is still one in the holds queue that I sent a message to, so when things are up again if you could have a look that would be great! |
| 02:13 | tuxayo++ | |
| 02:13 | thd++ | |
| 02:15 | tuxayo | davidnind++ Thanks helping with that English proofreading issue ^^ |
| 02:21 | thd | davidnind: Maybe you could get Rachel at Katipo's attention about adding the DMARC line to the DNS for lists.katipo.co.nz while we test Discourse. It may only affect a minority of Koha people behind restrictive systems but people on such systems cannot confirm their email for the Koha general mailing list. |
| 02:24 | davidnind: She is waiting to handover the mailing list to an active maintainer but Discourse needs much testing and fixing a third party mail system for the wiki, Discourse, etc. is not so trivial even if the third party system is fixed tomorrow there is still much more to do. | |
| 02:36 | dcook | I suppose this highlights how the koha community infrastructure is a bit "behind the curtain" |
| 02:36 | The email thing really isn't that hard, especially if we were using one mail server | |
| 02:38 | thd | Having community infrastructure widely distributed helped the community survive when there was turmoil with LibLime. |
| 02:39 | dcook | You can still do that via DNS |
| 02:39 | If there were turmoil with an individual now, we'd be pretty bad off | |
| 02:43 | thd | Apparently, no one in the Koha community has direct access for configuring DKIM at secure-mailgate.com or we do not yet know what to do. The underlying problem is that in 2024 you have much difficulty catching an IP address with good mail reputation for a VPS to run a mail server. |
| 02:45 | Joubu has sent an email to ask the people at secure.mailgate.com | |
| 02:46 | dcook | Yeah mail reputation is... ugh. Even if you legitimately send a lot of email, you'll still get a bad reputation. |
| 02:46 | Yeah, fingers crossed they say something good | |
| 02:46 | thd | Joubu also does not have low level access to all the systems otherwise we might have a few more things working correctly if he was not otherwise too busy. |
| 02:47 | dcook | I liked Owen's joke about checking the wiki for which systems are managed by who (when the wiki first went down) |
| 02:47 | by whom* | |
| 02:48 | thd | The people at secure-mailgate.com must have something good to say as email is their primary business. |
| 02:48 | dcook | Do we really know that for sure? |
| 02:48 | There's no info about them online | |
| 02:48 | It could be someone in their basement running it as a side hustle for all we know | |
| 02:49 | thd | Are they not securemailgate.de ? |
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| 02:50 | dcook | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 02:51 | thd | Still very little about them online other than some party is funding Koha to use their service for solving an important problem of mail server reputation which never used to be a problem when spam was rampant. |
| 02:52 | They are German. We may know some people near them. | |
| 02:57 | I hardly send any email. Have been running the same mail server of my own for years and I end up in the spam box when sending test messages to a newly created test Gmail account when I had been in the inbox in previous testing. | |
| 02:59 | Problems can be nothing wrong with your IP address but there had been a problem with another IP address in the same subnet. | |
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| 03:01 | thd | I may also have taken too long to join the DKIM and DMARC party. Gmail does not even validate whether DKIM signatures match message content and passes things to the inbox with DMARC and no DKIM signature. |
| 03:01 | wajasu | remember the days when you could send an email to joecool.net and everyong in the cool.net domain would get it? |
| 03:03 | i had throw away email addreses and the domains are getting blacklisted | |
| 03:04 | i seem to recal, that i couldn't sign onto github or gitlab a year ago so i coulnd participate with koha stuff. | |
| 03:04 | thd | wajasu: Was that a general property of email delivery at some early time such that xxdomain.tld was sent to yydomain.tld and zzdomain.tld ? |
| 03:05 | wajasu | yes in the 70s and 80s. then in the 90s when businesses came onboard spam was born. |
| 03:06 | we used to just ask for a domain and they were free. | |
| 03:07 | i used to scream that people were wasting the namespace. abusing the commons | |
| 03:07 | so nothing can be completely free | |
| 03:07 | thd | I was around then but I only had access to 18th century computers, card catalogues and their early electronic versions. |
| 03:07 | wajasu | i had blocks of IP4 and they stole them from me a few years back. |
| 03:09 | wheni was a young C programmer, I used to implement RFCs as they first become available. TCP stacks, SMTP, FTP, GOPHER, ... Web Browser. | |
| 03:09 | it took me hours to compile XWindows in the 80s. | |
| 03:10 | i had to get an XWindow terminal that was monochrome to have multiple windows open. We were using serial switch boxes with dumb terminals. | |
| 03:10 | today people use tmux | |
| 03:11 | thd | It took me hours to bring up XWindows while the system thrashed the swap space the first time I tried. The console worked fine without graphics. |
| 03:13 | Lynx, Elinks, etc. no longer render enough sites not because of graphics but because of unnecessary JavaScript. | |
| 03:14 | I hope that deprecating TemplateToolkit in favour of Vue.js does not leave an entirely blank page with no fallback for anything in the OPAC. | |
| 03:14 | wajasu | while you guys are at it, with the DNS, one should check if old subdomains are left adrift. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH6O3oBZLK8 |
| 03:20 | thd | I have a recently acquired IP address at which someone else's old subdomain keeps trying to resolve. |
| 03:24 | wajasu | i had a koha server for someone that would get bogged down every 6 months. i though maybe it was amazon prime day, but in the end, i had to work on the robots.txt. the robots kept coming for a couple of days, then it subsided. |
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| 04:09 | tuxayo | The explanation field in the systempreference table is weird, I don't get where it's displayed. Because the actually text we see comes from circulation.pref. |
| 04:10 | > i used to scream that people were wasting the namespace. abusing the commons | |
| 04:10 | XD | |
| 04:10 | true | |
| 04:13 | > i had blocks of IP4 and they stole them from me a few years back. | |
| 04:13 | lol, to be fair, that's even more of a common than domain names. | |
| 04:13 | However, there are many more actors that should have been expropriated before getting at you wajasu https://xkcd.com/195/ | |
| 04:15 | Various US army organization and early US tech companies have an insane number of ipv4 adresses. | |
| 04:17 | And of course, they are the less used blocks: https://i.pinimg.com/originals[…]d544383b73595.jpg | |
| 04:17 | What would Ford and GE do with all those IPs XD | |
| 04:18 | wajasu | he who owns the IPs owns the ... |
| 04:21 | tuxayo | thd: |
| 04:21 | > I hope that deprecating TemplateToolkit in favour of Vue.js does not leave an entirely blank page with no fallback for anything in the OPAC. | |
| 04:21 | Yeah thd, we can still proudly advertise some level of compat with IE4 or IE5 I don't remember (when the wiki work, I'll be able to find my test results) it would be a shame to loose that :) | |
| 04:22 | thd | I have the backup |
| 04:22 | tuxayo | One problem to go more backwards in browser support was that the browser don't support <button> XD |
| 04:22 | > I have the backup | |
| 04:22 | ho lol, the test wiki?N | |
| 04:23 | https://wiki.test.koha-community.org | |
| 04:23 | maybe not that one, it might be on the same server | |
| 04:24 | thd | I have not tried running restoring it but I downloaded the most recent backup from tcohen's Nextcloud instance. |
| 04:25 | tuxayo | no worries, that silly page isn't going anywhere |
| 04:26 | thd | The test wiki has an old database from the time of migration. There is no process in place to synchronize the test wiki database with the current database. |
| 04:27 | I think that quite a few things were on the same server. | |
| 04:28 | We might loose a day or two of content. | |
| 04:32 | tuxayo | wajasu: thanks, that DNS video was interesting |
| 04:32 | thd | There may also be a more recent snapshot in the data centre. |
| 04:32 | tuxayo | Sending to my sysadmin friends ^^ |
| 04:33 | > We might loose a day or two of content. | |
| 04:33 | There are no news that the server store is dead, are they? | |
| 04:33 | *storage | |
| 04:33 | Last time it was just an outage I think, no loss | |
| 04:33 | thd | I have seen that presenter previously. He definitely has an engaging style, NetworkChuck. |
| 04:34 | The server would not start. | |
| 04:34 | wajasu | i'm just slooowly trying to tweak the ktd to start/stop faster. i added the init: true to the koha service section and it doesn't delay and kill after 10 secs now. that adds up when you work bugs. |
| 04:35 | tuxayo | wajasu: nice :) |
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| 04:35 | tuxayo | Maybe paralelism would help? At least for the update of the l10n there is not need to have this blocking. |
| 04:35 | thd | The storage device could be fine and the hardware fault may be some other problem. |
| 04:37 | tuxayo | For the rest, there might be too many dependencies to make things parallel. Maybe not all the built of the JS and CSS stuff |
| 04:37 | Could be started earlier. | |
| 04:37 | Or at least could be done in parallel to zebra and ES indexing. | |
| 04:40 | Yeah, the rest, I'm not sure. But it seems l10n update and yarn build could be launched right away. | |
| 04:40 | thd | I have two types of backup from tcohen's Nextcloud. One is the database and persistent volumes and the other is /var/lib/docker/volumes which includes docker configuration in portainer_data and other important things. There are also other backups which are not wiki specific which their was no reason to make available to me. |
| 04:41 | tuxayo | On first run, that would make KTD fully usable minus translating while it's downloading l10n. Likely not many people would even notice this. |
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| 06:53 | wajasu | i just added https://docs.docker.com/refere[…]ache-apt-packages into the dists/bullseye/Dockerfile and if I drop my koha testing image, when i rebuild its done. |
| 06:54 | that would really might help whoever does koha/koha-testing builds. | |
| 06:55 | i needed to do docker buildx prune OR docker buildx prune -a to remove all those internat caches. WARNING dont do the prune if you have stuff to keep. | |
| 06:56 | so now i am thinking about the run.sh. | |
| 06:58 | i wonder if i could do a git show -s --format="%H" HEAD to get a hash for a directory like misc/translator/po and compare to the remote | |
| 06:59 | but the git filter isnt that slow, once the whole things is pulled | |
| 07:00 | or maybe we can list some language prefixes in the .env TRANSLATE_PREFIX and then just download those that we want to work on. | |
| 07:02 | if i could detect if the directories containing SQL changed, then i could only re-populate the db when it changed | |
| 07:05 | maybe using a tool like hashdir | |
| 07:08 | i could run hashdir on the sql/schema dirs in the koha git, and write to a volume(in koha git) and when the container restarts, we see if there is a change, and if so repopulate the db. | |
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| 07:24 | marcelr | o/ |
| 07:28 | patches are not really moving these days.. | |
| 07:30 | Joubu: 36081 is for you, you can do it better.. | |
| 07:33 | magnuse | bug 36081 |
| 07:33 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36081 is not accessible. |
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| 07:39 | marcelr | @later tell cait please push 35536 and friends (35548); 35062 touches few lines waits for 2m in pqa |
| 07:39 | huginn` | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:41 | marcelr | hi all, i need some testers for bug 27893, 36068, 36018 and 35994 simple acquisiton improvements |
| 07:41 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27893 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Delete of biblio should warn about attached acq orders and cancel them |
| 07:45 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:52 | cait | good morning #koha on this sunny GBSD! |
| 07:52 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 07:52 | sunny?? | |
| 07:52 | cait | very sunny here :) |
| 07:52 | marcelr | grey |
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| 07:52 | marcelr | rainy |
| 07:53 | its coming your way later | |
| 07:53 | cait | it might, because I am invited to a birthday party this weekend |
| 07:53 | Joubu | the weather is grey but you heart is sunny marcelr, right? ;) |
| 07:53 | marcelr | sure |
| 07:54 | always positive | |
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| 08:28 | cait | Joubu filed all the recent Jenkins failures - but I think we don't have patches yet |
| 08:29 | Joubu | they are random failures |
| 08:30 | cait | always fun |
| 08:30 | well, let's GBSD! Working on the bug bugs now | |
| 08:30 | Joubu | especially when it's always me looking at them, yes |
| 08:30 | cait | yes, that's why I was putting it out here - hoping to raise attention and get more eyes on it |
| 08:31 | Joubu | you won't :D |
| 08:31 | and they are tricky ones... | |
| 08:32 | cait | let me try! think "sunny" :) |
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| 08:43 | ashimema | Woop woop, that's two PRs for bugzilla merged.. we're moving again 🙂 |
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| 08:52 | magnuse | ashimema++ |
| 08:53 | cait | cool :) |
| 08:53 | ashimema++ | |
| 08:53 | moving here too | |
| 08:55 | Joubu | marcelr: 36326 - IIRC only my patch was needed |
| 08:56 | cait | not pushed yet |
| 08:56 | but on ym branch | |
| 08:57 | Joubu | please wait for marcelr reply, or push only the first patch :) |
| 08:57 | see the discussion there | |
| 08:57 | cait | hm bit confusing - on the bug you said only the second patch? |
| 08:58 | I'll wait with both right now - remove them from my branch for now | |
| 08:59 | marcelr | will have a look |
| 08:59 | cait | when the first one is the one, can you pelase make the commit message a little nicer? |
| 09:00 | marcelr | no i think he means the second |
| 09:00 | first is from Pedro | |
| 09:00 | iirc | |
| 09:00 | Joubu | yes, sorry |
| 09:00 | marcelr | Joubu always makes nice commit messages ;) |
| 09:01 | cait | not always ;) |
| 09:01 | but mostly | |
| 09:12 | thd | Wiki seems to be back up as if it was never down. Even my login state was preserved. |
| 09:21 | Maybe tcohen will have some information later about what actually failed. The system was evidently completely recoverable without resorting to a backup which would have been older and probably not even a data centre snapshot from before it went down. | |
| 09:22 | cait | some problem witht he hoster is what I got, he might know more |
| 09:22 | not specific to the wiki | |
| 09:22 | thd | Not specific to the wiki certainly but there seemed to be some hardware failure with the server not starting. |
| 09:24 | The file system was obviously intact as some updates would otherwise have been lost. | |
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| 09:28 | dolf | From time to time, I get an e-mail from the Cron Daemon of the Debian VM on which my Koha is running: |
| 09:28 | Connection to the memcached servers '127.0.0.1:11211' failed. Are the unix socket permissions set properly? Is the host reachable? | |
| 09:28 | If you ignore this warning, you will face performance issues | |
| 09:28 | This happens sporadically, sometimes a few days apart, and sometimes a month apart. Is there any known cause for this? MemCached seems to be running fine all the time. | |
| 09:28 | It happens in the /etc/cron.hourly/koha-common script | |
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| 09:32 | thd | ssh access to the VPS host for the containers was lost for me yesterday as things went down. My screen session was not preserved which indicates that the system was likely at least restarted even though it would not restart after going down yesterday. |
| 09:33 | The database state must have preserved my login state for the wiki which I find most surprising. | |
| 09:36 | cait | dolf: hm usually happens when koha is down for a bit - maybe a backup run or similar? |
| 09:36 | is it always the same/similar time? | |
| 09:38 | first batch pushed for today | |
| 09:38 | ashimema | can someone remind me what the bug was for the cas thing that filled sessions |
| 09:40 | Joubu | bug 36034 |
| 09:40 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36034 blocker, P1 - high, ---, andreas.jonsson, Pushed to oldstable , cas_ticket is set to serialized patron object in session |
| 09:42 | cait | first 12 bugs pushed today - will be back for more :) |
| 09:44 | dolf | cait: It seems to be mostly between 06:30 and 09:30 in the morning, but with some exceptions (around 22:00 and 01:00). About 4 time this month, but not weekly. |
| 09:48 | cait | hm not sure then, we usually get that if the server is down |
| 09:48 | for some reason | |
| 09:49 | or might get it, it depends on what is going on, but I have seen int in maintenance sometimes | |
| 09:55 | dolf | OK, thanks. I'll try to monitor memcached more closely to see if it really goes down, and why. |
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| 10:18 | cait | davidnind++ :) |
| 10:18 | paulderscheid[m] | morning #koha |
| 10:18 | So much happened here last night. O.O | |
| 10:22 | cait | did it? |
| 10:23 | it's GBSD! | |
| 10:23 | confetti! | |
| 10:29 | oleonard | wahanui AWOL for GBSD? Scandalous. |
| 10:40 | cait | that's true |
| 10:40 | on strike? | |
| 10:41 | oleonard | wahanui's job is not that taxing but the hours are terrible |
| 10:42 | cait | lol |
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| 11:09 | cait | can we please get SO/QA on bug 3612? |
| 11:09 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3612 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, CLOSED FIXED, bookseller search & management |
| 11:09 | cait | um not that one |
| 11:10 | can we please get SO/QA on bug 36012? | |
| 11:10 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36012 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , ERM/Agreements_spec.ts is failing if run too slow (?) |
| 11:10 | cait | needed for Jenkins |
| 11:19 | tcohen | hola #koha o/ |
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| 11:19 | cait | hola tcohen |
| 11:19 | happy GBSD! | |
| 11:19 | tcohen | happy GBSD everyone! |
| 11:19 | I'm sorry the technical issues might got in the middle | |
| 11:20 | next week I'll move the server | |
| 11:21 | oleonard | Sorry for the noise on Bug 36081, I was looking at the wrong thing |
| 11:21 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36081 is not accessible. |
| 11:22 | Joubu | tcohen: do you know what happened? |
| 11:31 | cait | I don#t want them to stay, but all round numbers on dashboard: NSO 140, SO 180, PQA 60 |
| 11:32 | another 12 bugs pushed - heading out for lunch break, bbiab | |
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| 11:42 | paulderscheid[m] | I just added a .prettierrc.js in bug 36400 |
| 11:42 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36400 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Centralize {js,ts,vue} formatting config in .prettierrc.js |
| 11:43 | paulderscheid[m] | Does someone want to test? |
| 11:43 | I tested w/ vscod{e, ium} and neovim (w/ lazyvim config) and it seems to work as we want it for vue files. | |
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| 11:53 | Joubu | paulderscheid[m]: you need to fix the git hook (part of ktd) and the qa script, to make them all use the same config file |
| 11:54 | paulderscheid[m] | Could you point me to the files? |
| 11:55 | Joubu | ktd:files/git_hooks/pre-commit |
| 11:55 | paulderscheid[m] | Do you mean .git/hooks/ktd/pre-commit |
| 11:56 | Ah ok, thanks | |
| 11:56 | Joubu | QohA/File/JS.pm: my $tidy = qx{yarn --silent run prettier --trailing-comma es5 --arrow-parens avoid $absf}; |
| 11:56 | QohA/File/Vue.pm: my $tidy = qx{yarn --silent run prettier --trailing-comma es5 --semi false --arrow-parens avoid $absf}; | |
| 11:56 | this in qa-test-tools | |
| 11:56 | paulderscheid[m] | Alright |
| 11:57 | Joubu | for QA the script must be run at the root of the koha dir, so you will be able to locate the config file easily |
| 11:57 | for ktd you know where it is ;) | |
| 11:58 | paulderscheid[m] | Yep, are PRs fine for those repositoroes? |
| 11:59 | *repositories? | |
| 11:59 | Or also through the bug tracker? | |
| 11:59 | Joubu | PR on gitlab please :) |
| 11:59 | paulderscheid[m] | Alright |
| 12:00 | Joubu | better first an issue, then a PR linked to the issue (start the commit with "Issue #42") |
| 12:00 | paulderscheid[m] | Ok |
| 12:18 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "EOENT error when running gulp po:update --lang xx-XX" (17 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/40325 |
| 12:19 | oleonard | Working with translations is really troublesome lately |
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| 12:44 | cait | how was GBSD while I was out? |
| 12:45 | EOENT is described in the docs I think | |
| 12:45 | did you make sure your branch as in a clean state? | |
| 12:46 | oleonard | yes |
| 12:46 | cait | hm |
| 12:46 | Joubu: ? :) | |
| 12:47 | paulderscheid[m] | I added the PRs. Hope I followed the conventions correctly. |
| 12:48 | cait | paulderscheid[m]++ |
| 12:49 | paulderscheid[m] | We can ++ when it's merged :D But thanks cait :) |
| 12:49 | cait | hm I broke Jenkins more |
| 12:49 | *sigh* | |
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| 13:01 | * tcohen | looks |
| 13:02 | cait | tcohen: I think i narrowed it down - bug 36331 and a follow-up on bug 35793 (I have that on my branch already) |
| 13:02 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36331 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Items that cannot be held are prevented renewal when there are holds on the record |
| 13:02 | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Remove Koha::Template::Plugin::Cache | |
| 13:02 | cait | but double checking wouldnot hurt :) |
| 13:02 | oh and 36012 would be great (need SO/QA) | |
| 13:03 | tcohen | bug 35536 |
| 13:03 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35536 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to master , Improve removal of Koha plugins in unit tests |
| 13:03 | cait | wrong number |
| 13:03 | tcohen | ^^ I'm adding a follow-up for that one |
| 13:04 | cait | Bug 36012 |
| 13:04 | ok | |
| 13:04 | ok! | |
| 13:04 | tcohen | bug 36012 |
| 13:04 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36012 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , ERM/Agreements_spec.ts is failing if run too slow (?) |
| 13:06 | tcohen | cait: attached |
| 13:10 | follow-up on bug 35793 as well | |
| 13:10 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Remove Koha::Template::Plugin::Cache |
| 13:10 | cait | tcohen: that I already had written myself |
| 13:10 | tcohen | ah |
| 13:11 | ok | |
| 13:11 | cait | hm but I had killed the file |
| 13:11 | maybe need to ttake another look | |
| 13:11 | tcohen | ? |
| 13:11 | I'm not following | |
| 13:11 | cait | ah no, it's the same |
| 13:12 | the git patch confused me for a second | |
| 13:12 | we wrote an identical patch | |
| 13:12 | tcohen | The required follow-up for 35793 is just removing the tests |
| 13:12 | cait | yes |
| 13:12 | Joubu | cait: ? |
| 13:12 | cait | that's what I did |
| 13:12 | tcohen | good |
| 13:12 | cait | we agree, sorry for making it soudn complicated :) |
| 13:12 | Joubu | oleonard: rm misc/translator/*.pot |
| 13:12 | tcohen | looking at bug 36331 |
| 13:12 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36331 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , Items that cannot be held are prevented renewal when there are holds on the record |
| 13:13 | oleonard | Thanks Joubu I will try shortly |
| 13:13 | blawlor[m] | Good morning from UTC -5 happy GBSD! |
| 13:13 | tcohen | kidclamp: can you look at the t/db_dependent/Holds.t failure? the RM narrowed it down to 36331 |
| 13:14 | cait | Happy GBSD! :) |
| 13:14 | tcohen: test file is dead and grabbed the follow-up on bug 35536 | |
| 13:14 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35536 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to master , Improve removal of Koha plugins in unit tests |
| 13:21 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 13:22 | grabbing the Agreements one next | |
| 13:26 | Joubu | paulderscheid[m]: you have not based your PR on top of master! |
| 13:26 | ktd #415 | |
| 13:26 | paulderscheid[m] | Whoopsie |
| 13:27 | Joubu | we modified this part of the code yesterday |
| 13:28 | cait | you are all just moving too fast :) |
| 13:32 | Joubu | paulderscheid[m]: my $prettier_config_file = '.prettierrc.js'; |
| 13:32 | this is not correct I think, you need an abs path. You can commit from somewhere else than the root dir | |
| 13:32 | paulderscheid[m] | Ok, then I will fix that. |
| 13:33 | Joubu | paulderscheid[m]: I would use `git rev-parse --show-toplevel` |
| 13:34 | paulderscheid[m] | But just for ktd, as the qa-script is expected to run in the project root, huh? |
| 13:34 | Joubu | yes, only ktd, but actually it should not hurt to have it in qa as well |
| 13:34 | paulderscheid[m] | Alrighty |
| 13:47 | blawlor[m] | paulderscheid: to test your bug is the idea to test a bunch of vue files and see if you get any errors? Id the command something like this: npx prettier -c .prettierrc.js /koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/vue/components/Breadcrumbs.vue |
| 13:48 | paulderscheid[m] | Yes, essentially if the already present vue files don't change on format, it's all good because by default a ';' would be inserted after statements. |
| 13:48 | But you can also just format before and after the patch is applied and look at the difference in output. | |
| 13:49 | blawlor[m] | ok I'll give it a try |
| 13:49 | paulderscheid[m] | Please also document which editor(s) you've used. |
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| 13:56 | kidclamp | tcohen: patch attached |
| 13:58 | cait | tcohen: do oyu have a moment to check it? |
| 13:58 | just about to push, but then I'll wait | |
| 13:58 | tcohen | ok |
| 13:58 | checking | |
| 13:58 | cait | thanks! |
| 14:03 | tcohen | looks good, attaching a signed and tidied version |
| 14:03 | cait | thank you! |
| 14:03 | tcohen | there are some warnings when tests are run, but unrelared |
| 14:04 | cait | yeah, some tidy up for another day |
| 14:09 | ... and that's another 11 bugs | |
| 14:09 | + Jenkins follow-ups | |
| 14:11 | tcohen | good harvest |
| 14:12 | cait | let's see what explodes this time :D |
| 14:14 | are you ready to GBSD some more? :) | |
| 14:17 | blawlor[m] | <paulderscheid[m]> "Please also document which..." <- I'm using VScode. before the patch there's an error because the file in the command doesn't exist yet. After the patch it has some warning but no error.... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]kvtSZTigesbVfruAG>) |
| 14:17 | > <@paulderscheid:matrix.org> Please also document which editor(s) you've used.... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]MFGEjhYcjEADPfWAh>) | |
| 14:18 | paulderscheid[m] | Before the patch is applied you just need to run npx prettier ./<FILE_PATH> as we want to see the difference. |
| 14:19 | Joubu | paulderscheid[m]: actually the PR I was talking about previously (the conflict) is not pushed yet |
| 14:19 | paulderscheid[m]: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]erge_requests/494 | |
| 14:19 | paulderscheid[m] | You can ignore the warnings about the editorconfig option. I linked a gh discussion about why that occurs (I know, it's annoying). |
| 14:20 | I just added the change in the qa-script repo | |
| 14:20 | What should I do for the ktd repo then Joubu? | |
| 14:23 | Joubu | do you mind to rebase it again? :D |
| 14:23 | paulderscheid[m] | No, but I think I just made a mistake |
| 14:24 | Joubu | ok, merged |
| 14:25 | blawlor[m] | <paulderscheid[m]> "Before the patch is applied..." <- before the patch if I run npx prettier ./koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/vue/components/Toolbar.vue it looks like it just outputs the file, is that right? |
| 14:26 | oleonard | Joubu: Still getting the same po:update error after clearing the .pot files |
| 14:26 | paulderscheid[m] | Yes, you can use -w to write to the file otherwise it will just output the corrections to STDOUT |
| 14:27 | Joubu | oleonard: paste the error |
| 14:27 | oleonard: did you chown? | |
| 14:27 | oleonard | chown anything in particular? |
| 14:28 | Joubu | all the things :D but first try with -R misc/translator/po |
| 14:30 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "EOENT error when running gulp po:update --lang xx-XX" (17 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/40330 |
| 14:31 | Joubu | oleonard: is there something in misc/translator/po? |
| 14:33 | paulderscheid[m] | Should be mergeable now. |
| 14:35 | oleonard | Joubu: The .po files plus /debian and /ru_RU |
| 14:36 | paulderscheid[m] | I think you need to teach me some git foo either cait or Joubu at hackfest. |
| 14:36 | There's still a lot I need to learn it seems. | |
| 14:37 | pastebot | "Joubu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "things to check before po:update" (59 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/40331 |
| 14:37 | Joubu | oleonard: misc/translator/po should have a .git directory |
| 14:37 | oleonard | Oh yes, that too sorry |
| 14:38 | Joubu | if it's not there: rm -rf misc/translator/po && git clone --depth 1 https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-l10n misc/translator/po |
| 14:38 | if I have not typoed something | |
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| 14:41 | oleonard | Joubu: What does `ls -l misc/translator/po|wc -l` do? |
| 14:42 | Joubu | just show it's not empty :) |
| 14:42 | the number of files in the dir | |
| 14:42 | but I just noticed the paste does not contain all what I selected on the screen | |
| 14:42 | did the clone fix the problem? | |
| 14:46 | oleonard | Waiting for the clone to finish |
| 14:49 | blawlor[m] | <paulderscheid[m]> "Yes, you can use -w to write..." <- I think I may be missing something with the command after the patch it doesn't seem to make any changes to the files. |
| 14:49 | paulderscheid[m] | That’s the point :D |
| 14:50 | blawlor[m] | paulderscheid[m]: Oh haha |
| 14:50 | cait | ok, that was another 9 bugs |
| 14:51 | QA queue down from 79 this morning to 43 | |
| 14:51 | ... and some QA happened in between this morning and now, so it's some more than that :) | |
| 14:52 | blawlor[m] | so for example before the patch:... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]YtHaiPxIqRDziHhTL>) |
| 14:52 | cait | ... and small victories: all enhancements from January are now gone from the queue |
| 14:52 | paulderscheid[m] | Doing cardio for 45 min |
| 14:52 | Be back in a jiffy | |
| 14:52 | But that looks good blawlor | |
| 14:52 | cait | ... way to make us feel bad :) |
| 14:53 | paulderscheid[m] | If I'm not mistaken Joubu already formatted all of those files in the way we want it, so your experience is exactly what we want. |
| 14:54 | Joubu | all the .vue files are correctly formatted yes, we have tests to ensure that :) |
| 14:54 | cait: we fixed that failure already.. | |
| 14:54 | cait | which one? |
| 14:55 | Joubu | see d130a6c66b6cc6fb3221c0ea7e26f2d0825f4f72 |
| 14:55 | not exactly the same, but same problem with D10 | |
| 14:55 | cait | sorry, missing context |
| 14:55 | Joubu | https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/1431/consoleText |
| 14:55 | koha_1 | Can't locate object method "mock" via package "0" (perhaps you forgot to load "0"?) at t/db_dependent/Koha/Plugins/KitchenSink.t line 56. | |
| 14:58 | cait | passes for me locally - what do youneed me to do? |
| 14:59 | Joubu | *D10* |
| 14:59 | paste that on the last bug you pushed that changes the plugin area | |
| 15:01 | cait | there were a few |
| 15:01 | oleonard | Still no luck Joubu but I'm going to move on |
| 15:01 | cait | mostly Marcel |
| 15:04 | Joubu | oleonard: try that: for i in marc-MARC21 marc-UNIMARC staff-prog opac-bootstrap pref messages messages-js installer installer-MARC21 installer-UNIMARC; do gulp po:update --lang ru-RU --task $i; done |
| 15:04 | cait | Joubu: I am not following you - I'll step out for a few minutes |
| 15:05 | davidnind | ByWater Solutions Global Bug Squashing Day live has started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Taq5Hta3w |
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| 15:14 | wise_mike[m] | Hi, first time here. Do I ask questions here or where? |
| 15:14 | If I have Moha on my server with 1000 books, is there an option or an extension so that logged in visitors can add some books to their own personal virtual libraries on the same server? Like "add to cart" but they permenantly add what they want (something like librarything or so)? | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | wise_mike[m]: Patrons could add existing titles to their own list, but they can't add records to the catalog |
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| 15:18 | wise_mike[m] | Thanks oleonard for the prompt reply. Yes, only I will add the records. Patrons are like users who can sign up in Koha on my server? |
| 15:19 | oleonard | wise_mike[m]: Yes. They can sign themselves up if you enable patron self-registration in system preferences. |
| 15:21 | wise_mike[m] | Another thing, if I imported a marc record for a book, and then import the same book from another source with a little bit of different details, or a different print and cover, does koha give the option to merge them or something, or how it works? |
| 15:22 | caroline | wise_mike[m], https://koha-community.org/man[…]l#merging-records |
| 15:22 | oleonard | wise_mike[m]: Yes. MARC imports can have "match points," like ISBN or control number. |
| 15:22 | wise_mike[m] | great.. thanks |
| 15:29 | Joubu | cait: added a comment 35548#c5 |
| 15:33 | cait | thx, just stood in the sun a little bit |
| 15:35 | oleonard | recharging just like a Kryptonian |
| 15:35 | cait | heh |
| 15:41 | paulderscheid[m] | back |
| 15:44 | cait | Joubu++ |
| 15:48 | Joubu | When Jenkins says "all good" for Koha_Master at "the end of a Friday afternoon" (for me!), you should stop pushing :D |
| 15:48 | good job, cait :) | |
| 15:50 | cait | I am going to stop pushing anyway, ran out of focus I think |
| 15:51 | dashbard is still running - where do you see the "all good"? | |
| 15:51 | Joubu | last line in koha-bots - https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/2821/ |
| 15:51 | cait | oh good :) |
| 15:52 | Joubu | I didn't check if there was still one running! |
| 15:52 | cait | on the dashboard it's 5 still running |
| 15:53 | Joubu | indeed! :D |
| 15:53 | cait | ... well there is hope at least :) |
| 15:53 | I kept Jenkins pretty busy today, maybe it will be too exhausted to keep complaining ;) | |
| 15:57 | there is more green in koha-bots, but not on the dashboard yet | |
| 16:00 | ok, now htere is red *chews nails* | |
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| 16:07 | davidnind | jzairo++ |
| 16:07 | kellym_++ | |
| 16:08 | oleonard | Indeed! |
| 16:08 | cait | oh, was there an online session? |
| 16:09 | oleonard | Yep |
| 16:09 | cait | and I missed it :( |
| 16:10 | oleonard | cait: Pretty standard stuff :) |
| 16:13 | cait | k |
| 16:18 | davidnind | It was Kelly and Jessie covering the basic work flow: using Bugzilla and sandboxes and working through signing off a bug |
| 16:18 | cait | can't show that often enough |
| 16:19 | davidnind++ btw :) and isn't that a strange time for you? are you trying to do GBSD in ALL timezones? | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | Double-check davidnind's work after he's hit about 20 hours online :D |
| 16:20 | cait | oleonard: I have a report that after our update tot he 22.11 the behaior of the search box changed |
| 16:20 | but I am not sure if it was intentional... or what to do about it | |
| 16:21 | oleonard | What's the change? |
| 16:21 | cait | it says that previous to the new staff interface design, if you clicked into the catalog serach box, it would alredy "mark" the search term, so it was easier to remove or change |
| 16:21 | oleonard | I don't think that's true |
| 16:22 | cait | don't have prove yet either |
| 16:22 | oleonard | Could it have been a customization that was broken by the upgrade? |
| 16:22 | cait | I don't think so, it would have been me doing that |
| 16:22 | doublechecking anyway | |
| 16:23 | davidnind | I'm up early today, watched the ByWater Solutions live session (had a 'nap' yesterday afternoon...) |
| 16:24 | cait | just make sure you get sleep at some point :) |
| 16:24 | oleonard: nothing suspicious | |
| 16:26 | hm in 16.11 it wuld not even show the search term in the input | |
| 16:26 | ashimema | so lovely to see the koha-bots notifications flooding my screens again 🙂 |
| 16:26 | cait | maybe that is the change? |
| 16:26 | oleonard | cait: 16.11 is what they were upgrading from? |
| 16:28 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:28 | cait | 20.11 |
| 16:28 | it was the only older one I ofund lying around right now | |
| 16:29 | was dreading to reset my master... but probably need to | |
| 16:34 | wise_mike[m] | oleonard: Can a Patron with his own list of 100 books search just inside his list of books? |
| 16:34 | oleonard | No |
| 16:36 | wise_mike[m] | Does koha have extensions for such things? Or a place to suggest such feature? |
| 16:36 | cait | what are you trying to do? |
| 16:38 | bug 33092? | |
| 16:38 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add ability to search within a list |
| 16:39 | wise_mike[m] | I am setting up koha on my server, adding like specific genre of books, say 1000 books (records). Then open the website to users (I was the could be made patrons so they can add the books they own to their own list). My question is, if it is possible for a user with list of 50 books for example to search just inside his own list. |
| 16:40 | oleonard | wise_mike[m]: The link cait posted above links to Koha's bug tracker, where someone has filed an enhancement request for this feature. |
| 16:40 | wise_mike[m] | * I am setting up koha on my server, adding like specific genre of books, say 1000 books (records). Then open the website to users (I was told they could be made patrons so they can add the books they own to their own list). My question is, if it is possible for a user with list of 50 books for example to search just inside his own list. |
| 16:40 | oleonard | The feature hasn't been developed |
| 16:41 | cait | oleonard: hm reset_all fails for 20.11.19 r |
| 16:41 | wise_mike[m] | Oh thanks, I though that was answering another question. Thanks |
| 16:46 | Can patrons add private notes on a certain book in their list? Or add reviews? | |
| 16:47 | cait | no, but there is also a bug for that |
| 16:47 | a very old one I am afraid | |
| 16:47 | bug 813 | |
| 16:47 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=813 enhancement, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , OPAC lists should store comments |
| 16:49 | wise_mike[m] | Thanks, so I just add a comment there to "revive" it, maybe it would get looked on? |
| 16:49 | cait | a comment is always good |
| 16:49 | but most of Koha#s features are sponsored developments | |
| 16:49 | so someone paying someone to do the development | |
| 16:50 | oleonard | wise_mike[m]: Patrons can add public comments on books, but not private ones. |
| 16:50 | cait | a comment can be a good "advertising" reminding people about the idea tho |
| 17:06 | kidclamp | on master the patron search on the holds page loads patrons before any data is entered, was this intentional? |
| 17:08 | oleonard | That doesn't look right to me |
| 17:09 | * cait | hides |
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| 18:00 | oleonard | "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 5 and 11716 different commits each, respectively" |
| 18:00 | I think that might be a new personal best | |
| 18:02 | cait | wow |
| 18:12 | happy GBSD and a nice weekend to you all :) | |
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| 19:21 | ashimema | WOW... oleonard that's impressive |
| 20:02 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | Hello! Where in the database the uploaded cover images are kept? |
| 20:02 | caroline | NikolayGospodinov[m], look in the cover_images table |
| 20:03 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | thank you |
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