IRC log for #koha, 2024-03-14

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06:53 reiveune hello
07:17 magnuse davidnind++
07:21 khall++ tcohen++
07:38 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello. I have a question? How to stop sending emails to patrons from Koha!
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07:39 puphaus[m] Completly? you can run koha-disable-email <your instance_name>
07:39 NikolayGospodinov[m] Yes Completly
07:40 puphaus[m] Then this should do the trick :)
07:40 NikolayGospodinov[m] ok
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07:45 NikolayGospodinov[m] After i put the commant it says: Email already disabled for instance
07:45 Joubu puphaus[m]: is this really working?
07:46 NikolayGospodinov[m] How to check if it stops sending emails?
07:48 puphaus[m] Joubu: it did work for me some time ago when testing an instance
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07:48 Joubu puphaus[m]: I am reading debian/scripts/koha-email-disable and I really dont' see how it can work
07:49 it's only creating/removing a file (email.enabled), which is not used in Koha it seems
07:50 magnuse you could also disable the cronjob for process_message_queue.pl in /etc/cron.d/koha-common
07:50 there are some cronjobs that use the --email switch to koha-foreach
07:50 Joubu magnuse: it won't work, we have emails that are sent directly
07:50 magnuse yeah, it won't stop all the emails
07:51 Joubu NikolayGospodinov[m]: if the disable email command does not work you can set  SendAllEmailsTo  to a given address and all emails will be sent to this address. It won't stop sending email, but patrons won't receive emails
07:51 magnuse ...and the --email switch uses the email.enabled file
07:51 Joubu it depends on what you want exactly
07:51 puphaus[m] Joubu: hm it was an older instance and i thought it would be the same on newer versions
07:51 i think i have to read the source code everytime before answering
07:52 sorry Nikolay Gospodinov and thank you Joubu for correcting!
07:52 NikolayGospodinov[m] So what should i do
07:53 Joubu magnuse: correct, so it's used. But not from everywhere..
07:56 created bug 36314
07:56 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36314 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-email-disable does not disable all emails
08:02 cait1 NikolayGospodinov[m]: it stops all automated emails from sending, you can still trigger manually, like when sending a cart
08:03 the crons are simply not run then, that have the email flag, I believe that is the trick
08:03 cait t
08:05 Joubu davidnind: around?
09:06 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
09:37 puphaus[m] Is there a possibility to only sent check-in notifications when it happened via self chekc-in?
09:45 cait vs. sIP?
09:49 puphaus[m] sorry i dont understand it 100% i mean the self checkout module in koha or is there a way via a sip server?
10:00 cait ah ok
10:00 I am not aware of a method to turn it off for one or the other
10:03 puphaus[m] no problem
10:03 thank you anyways for your input! :)
10:18 cait I think it can be limited by branch - but we haven't used that feature and it might not help you :(
10:25 puphaus[m]: I meant this page here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/item_circulation_alerts.pl
10:35 puphaus[m] not really but i saw in the source code that i could maybe program it myself and contribute it if im sucessful with implementing it :)
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10:37 cait sounds great :)
10:38 puphaus[m] hopefully its as easy as i think at the moment :D
11:01 cait it always starts out that way... but don't give up :)
11:01 Joubu it's NEVER as easy as you think initially
11:01 cait sssh
11:01 shush
11:02 we don#t want him to get scared! :)
11:02 Joubu well, sometimes it is!!
11:02 (better?)
11:02 cait yeah, somewhat ;)
11:31 paulderscheid[m] # boolspace: ' ' is false, 'Y' is true. (don't ask)
11:31 Just found this :D
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11:43 cait in the code?
11:45 magnuse paulderscheid[m]: looks like SIP2 code ;-)
11:45 paulderscheid[m] yep
11:46 C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/Checkout.pm (22.11)
11:46 The (don't ask) made me chuckle :D
11:46 magnuse :-)
11:50 cait sometimes it's better...
11:50 late lunch, bbiab
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12:34 tcohen hola #koha o/
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12:40 cait hola tcohen
12:42 tcohen how's koha-land cait?
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12:44 cait hopefully sunny? :)
12:45 tcohen it is foggy here
12:45 yesterday it was 40ºC
12:45 we are all gonna die soon
12:45 haha
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12:47 cait weather changing quickly can be hard
13:13 paulderscheid[m] tcohen: haha :_)
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13:52 krimsonkharne[m] hey y'all
13:53 cait: do you know if it's possible in authorities to search for the authid of an authority record?
13:54 * krimsonkharne[m] uploaded an image: (17KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]szybtIy/image.png >
13:54 krimsonkharne[m] that is, this number:
13:54 cait sec
13:54 Can someone sign-off on [Bug 36277] t/db_dependent/api/v1/transfer_limits.t  is failing please?
13:54 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=36277 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , t/db_dependent/api/v1/transfer_limits.t  is failing
13:54 cait getting Jenkins green!
13:56 krimsonkharne[m]: in bibliographic data it's an
13:56 Elasticsearch or Zebra?
13:56 krimsonkharne[m] Elasticsearch
13:58 I had a question from a client where if they're in a biblio record and they already know the authid of the authority record they want to use in a subject heading, they couldn't search for the authid number in the cataloguing authority plugin
13:58 Joubu krimsonkharne[m]: http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/[…]earch&q=an:424242
13:58 krimsonkharne[m] (or rather wouldn't find the authority record)
13:58 Joubu is that what you are looking for?
13:59 ok forget that, read too quickly sorry
13:59 krimsonkharne[m] still could be helpful for "normal" searching though, thanks :)
14:00 cait sorry, i was not clear, an is the serach index name :D
14:00 but in biblio
14:01 krimsonkharne[m] ahhh :)
14:02 cait I was going to look at elasticsearch config sec
14:03 I feel like our indexing of authority data has been treated a bit "stepmotherly" (Germanism intended)
14:03 krimsonkharne[m] haha
14:04 cait theoretically: local-number
14:04 the authid shoud be reflected in your 001
14:04 can you test?
14:05 krimsonkharne[m] yeah.. maybe I'm stupid but it doesn't seem to work for me
14:06 sec
14:06 screenshot coming
14:06 * krimsonkharne[m] uploaded an image: (16KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]VoJTjPW/image.png >
14:07 krimsonkharne[m] (just 112274 doesn't work either, in any of the fields)
14:09 maybe it's less an Elasticsearch question and more a cataloguing authority plugin question?
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14:09 krimsonkharne[m] anyway don't want to take up your time too much with authority questions... ;-)
14:10 cait I think it doesn't get passed through maybe
14:10 it doesn't work in authority search either
14:14 krimsonkharne[m]: bug 22864 maybe
14:14 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22864 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search by creation date and control number in Authorities
14:15 krimsonkharne[m] oh, thanks!
14:15 cait++
14:15 Joubu++
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17:36 marie-luce Hi Koha community.
17:37 Is anyone familiar with the ILL email notifications?
18:01 cait hi marie-luce: a bit
18:02 do you have a problem?
18:11 marie-luce I was looking for a way to send an email to staff after a new ILL request
18:11 But, after some testing I couldn't figure it out how.
18:12 Koha seems to send email to staff only when the request is modified or cancel
18:14 It will add a comment in this bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35143
18:14 huginn` 04Bug 35143: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add hooks for status changes to ILL requests to send_staff_notice
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18:35 JasonGreene[m] MarcEdit question.... Does MarcEdit have the option to find duplicate entries on a certain Spreadsheet column?
19:28 marie-luce Hi JasonGreen I'm not very familiar with MarcEdit. Maybe try asking again tomorrow when more people are around. Or  you could try asking on the mailing list https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
19:35 cait oh sorry marie-luce - had to leave earlier
19:37 marie-luce no worries cait. Thanks for reaching out.
19:37 cait marie-luce: I am not sure if this needs to be implemented int he ILL backend or not, we don't use that feature (also not using the changes one)
19:38 JasonGreene[m] <marie-luce> "Hi JasonGreen I'm not very..." <- thanks
19:38 marie-luce At the moment, Koha is sending correctly ILL_REQUEST_CANCEL and ILL_REQUEST_MODIFIED emails.
19:40 I've left a comment in bug35413
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19:55 wajasu well, i had some luck baby stepping to run koha-testing-docker with docker compose watch (w/o bind mount or a volume)
19:56 paulderscheid[m] that's awesome wajasu
19:57 wajasu i can edit the file in the host koha, and it sync up into the container.  i presume a git branch change would do the same.
19:58 now i guess, i could setup yarn to rebuild if certain files change.
19:59 or maybe just restart the koha services accordingly
20:01 but one would need to realize a version change my update the db.  but maybe that could be regenerated as well.  it might all just be as long as what we have today.
20:01 paulderscheid[m] yeah, there's yarn js:watch for js and I think domm wrote something w/ inotify to restart plack (but that was for plugins I think)\
20:02 wajasu it might help the workflow for UI work.  with a full ktd down/up
20:02 the docker compose watch has smarts to ignore the .git directory and other web modules platforms like node_modules
20:03 i hadn't messed with this stuff since tcohen was working on it way back
20:03 paulderscheid[m] Always feel free to add documentation and experiments here https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ha-testing-docker
20:04 wajasu the newest docker buildx/buildKit build just what is needs
20:07 paulderscheid[m] wajasu: that's cool
20:09 wajasu the kohadevbox/run.sh  (i.e. files/run.sh)   has alot of smarts to get the newest pkgs, etc into koha testing docker, allowwing everyone testing to be up-to-date
20:09 paulderscheid[m] yeah, I actually don't like that run.sh is so massive
20:10 wajasu my docker image for koha/koha-testing:master-bullseye is 10GB.  to use docker compose watch one needs to do an initial COPY --chown=1000:1000 . /kohadevbox/koha
20:11 then when you start the container, the run.sh is what takes a while, and watch syncs.
20:13 paulderscheid[m] It would be cool to have the extra config in an additional docker-compose.watch.yml, maybe you could add a PR to https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ha-testing-docker
20:14 JasonGreene[m] trying to understand, in koha, is a borrower a patron and is a patron a borrower?   are they the same
20:15 paulderscheid[m] Jason Greene: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Terminology#P
20:16 wajasu i just added a Dockerfile based on docker-compose-light.yml and the files/ and env/ directories to koha git dir.  it builds koha/koha-testing locally, one time, and runs fine.
20:17 paulderscheid[m] Sorry (just read the question), yes (borrower is marked for deprecation.. sorta)
20:18 They refer to the same entity (and table: borrowers) at least
20:19 JasonGreene[m] Thanks... asking as I am reading on "How to delete library data in koha using command line"... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]LMOpPOPVBFLxtftCE>)
20:21 We are looking at deleting all items as the input has made many duplicates and it has become a predicament
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23:22 dcook .
23:28 JasonGreene[m] we deleted all items on one of our libraries...... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]VcaUFgoAKGhIidsBK>)

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