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| 07:18 | marcelr | o/ |
| 07:18 | gk_ | KOHA 23.11 version on Debian 11, upon checkout "An Error has occurred-Errot 500" |
| 07:28 | Joubu | gk_: what's the error? Check the Koha log files |
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| 07:35 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:26 | mtj | Hi folks |
| 08:26 | Hie Cait.. I'm about now 👋 | |
| 08:27 | Sorry I missed you yesterday | |
| 08:40 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 08:40 | mtj: we should be ready for the packages | |
| 08:40 | I checked the branches and they appear complete | |
| 08:45 | we have several open unit test buts marked RM_priority - please test these :) | |
| 08:46 | marcelr | easy signoff bug 35969 |
| 08:46 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35969 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , opac-sendbasket: Improve error message, remove some logging |
| 08:50 | Joubu | please postpone all easy/trivial/cosmetic works |
| 08:51 | I am going to mark as blocked everything new that will conflict with CSRF fix | |
| 08:51 | cait | Joubu: if you could take care of that this woudl be good |
| 08:51 | what shoudl I watch for? anything forms? | |
| 08:51 | Joubu | anything everywhere |
| 08:51 | cait | how far are you guys with CSRF? |
| 08:51 | if you need me to stop pushing, we need to talk :) | |
| 08:52 | Joubu | we should actually block everything and people should focus on it |
| 08:52 | marcelr | Joubu: blocking every patch does not sound good |
| 08:52 | Joubu | yes it is |
| 08:52 | cait | It comes a bit out of the blue right now |
| 08:52 | Joubu | it's a nightmare to fix and rebase |
| 08:52 | marcelr | for an In discussion patch |
| 08:52 | Joubu | it's not in discussion |
| 08:52 | go see the remote branch | |
| 08:52 | marcelr | few secs ago |
| 08:53 | it was | |
| 08:53 | Joubu | it is, but it's not reflecting its state |
| 08:53 | adjusting | |
| 08:53 | cait | that's why I said we need to talk - communication |
| 08:53 | marcelr | i know that several people promised to work on it, so i let them do what they promised |
| 08:53 | cait | my plan this morning was to push the regressions.t and see if I can get jenkins green and the small bug fixes |
| 08:54 | ashimema | resgressions.t is fine to push |
| 08:54 | that's one of the few that won't affect I believe | |
| 08:54 | pretty much anything that touches a controller or template does affect it | |
| 08:54 | and people are busting a gut working on that bug.. but it's huge and laborious | |
| 08:55 | Joubu | marcelr: I've adjusted the status and added a comment |
| 08:55 | marcelr: we cannot be too many, you are welcome | |
| 08:56 | It's 110 commits on top of master so far | |
| 08:57 | marcelr | did you block other patches too ? |
| 08:57 | Joubu | not yet :D |
| 08:57 | marcelr | ok thats bad |
| 08:57 | Joubu | what is bad? |
| 08:57 | marcelr | you make it personal |
| 08:57 | Joubu | ok |
| 08:57 | marcelr | i dont like that |
| 08:57 | Joubu | see you later |
| 08:58 | cait | the problem is, we don't see your work, you need to communicate |
| 08:58 | at elast with me | |
| 08:58 | Joubu | lol |
| 08:58 | cait | tell me :) |
| 08:58 | Joubu | there are comments on the bug |
| 08:59 | marcelr | it would be helpful to know who is doing what and when, and see that on the bug |
| 09:00 | cait | yep - I was slightly aware of ongoing work, but not of the extend |
| 09:00 | Joubu | marcelr: read the comments! |
| 09:00 | if there are too many comments people don't read because things get lost | |
| 09:01 | marcelr | https://git.koha-community.org[…]/branch/bug_34478 |
| 09:01 | 404 | |
| 09:02 | Joubu | there are very few comments marked "important" |
| 09:02 | one is | |
| 09:02 | I have pushed a remote branch to our security repo (rebased and with new commits). | |
| 09:02 | https://git.koha-community.org[…]/branch/bug_34478 | |
| 09:02 | (If you need access let me know) | |
| 09:02 | marcelr | yes ^^ |
| 09:03 | Joubu | login then |
| 09:03 | because you should be able to have access to the security repo, you are in the security group on gitea | |
| 09:04 | marcelr | lol |
| 09:07 | mtj | Hi cait. Many thanks.. Will build pkgs now 🙆 |
| 09:40 | cait | running around a bit in the office this morning, but will read back in between |
| 09:59 | kidclamp: ping | |
| 10:05 | kidclamp: RM ping | |
| 10:23 | paulderscheid[m] | cait still around? |
| 10:24 | morning #koha btw | |
| 10:25 | cait | kind of, still between 2 things |
| 10:25 | can it wait like 10 minutes? | |
| 10:25 | paulderscheid[m] | Yes |
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| 10:40 | cait | paulderscheid[m]: now is your chance :) |
| 10:41 | paulderscheid[m] | Do you have a recommendation where I can lookup all the possible formats in 260$c |
| 10:41 | ? | |
| 10:41 | date of publication | |
| 10:41 | cait | what do you mean with format? |
| 10:41 | @marc 260$c | |
| 10:41 | huginn` | cait: unknown tag 260$c |
| 10:41 | cait | @marc 260 |
| 10:41 | huginn` | cait: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
| 10:42 | cait | is c the year? |
| 10:42 | paulderscheid[m] | Huh, that's cool :D |
| 10:42 | yeah | |
| 10:42 | cait | @marc 260c |
| 10:42 | huginn` | cait: unknown tag 260c |
| 10:42 | cait | hm there was a way, but I forgot :) |
| 10:42 | anyway, you can't | |
| 10:42 | It's "wie in der Vorlage" | |
| 10:43 | if you want a normalized date, you need to check 008, pos 7-10 | |
| 10:43 | Joubu | @marc 260 c |
| 10:43 | huginn` | Joubu: Date of publication, distribution, etc. May contain multiple dates (e.g., dates of publication and copyright). (Repeatable) |
| 10:43 | cait | you's probably encounter copyright symbols, [] and similar there |
| 10:43 | paulderscheid[m] | Ah, yeah |
| 10:43 | cait | it's also repeatable |
| 10:43 | and RDA records will use 264 | |
| 10:43 | paulderscheid[m] | There were some rules if I remember my cataloguing class correctly |
| 10:43 | cait | instead of 260 |
| 10:43 | paulderscheid[m] | Thanks |
| 10:44 | cait | I believe Koha has code for gussing |
| 10:44 | I remember marcelr working on something related | |
| 10:44 | paulderscheid[m] | marcelr? |
| 10:44 | still around? | |
| 10:44 | cait | marcelr: do you remember? I think it related to work on the koha to MARC mappings |
| 10:45 | marcelr | gussing? |
| 10:45 | cait | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19098 |
| 10:45 | huginn` | 04Bug 19098: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Additional logic for 260/RDA 264 fields |
| 10:45 | cait | well... extracting a year from bad data :) |
| 10:45 | marcelr | yeah i vaguely remember |
| 10:45 | not sure now where it ended | |
| 10:46 | cait | digging in Bugzilla sec |
| 10:46 | marcelr | probably needs a bugzilla dive , yes |
| 10:46 | paulderscheid[m]: just put some patches on 19098 :) | |
| 10:47 | cait | Bug 11046 - Better handling of uncertain years for publicationyear/copyrightdate |
| 10:47 | paulderscheid[m] | Cool stuff |
| 10:47 | Thank you | |
| 10:48 | cait | I think that last one is a good candidate |
| 10:49 | paulderscheid[m] | Thank you marcelr++ cait++ |
| 10:50 | I knew there was no perfect solution. Just wanted to create structured data if I can match certain patterns. | |
| 10:58 | I have one other question. Is there a way to access the indicator fields w/ MARC::Record/MARC::Field? | |
| 10:58 | For fields above '010'. | |
| 10:58 | Or do I just have to dereference the objects? | |
| 11:07 | ashimema | MARC::Field->indicator(indno) |
| 11:08 | ho.. above 010 | |
| 11:10 | paulderscheid[m] | Yeah, for example in 100$a you have the indicator 1 denoting whether a name is a 0 => Surname, 1 => Forname or 3 => Family name, |
| 11:10 | But I read through the perldoc of MARC::Record and I guess there's just no method for that. | |
| 11:11 | ashimema | control fields don't have indicators as such |
| 11:11 | paulderscheid[m] | Thought there might be a trick I'm not aware of. |
| 11:11 | ashimema | hang on.. I misread again |
| 11:11 | you mean above 010.. i.e. NOT controlfields | |
| 11:11 | so yeah.. ->indicator(indno) | |
| 11:13 | paulderscheid[m] | Huh? Is that not documented or am I blind? |
| 11:13 | ashimema | so in your above example.. if you have a MARC::Field for a 100.. then you can use `my $indicator0 = $field100->indicator(1);` |
| 11:13 | paulderscheid[m] | But it works. Thanks ashimema. |
| 11:13 | ashimema | https://metacpan.org/pod/MARC::Field#indicator(indno) |
| 11:13 | paulderscheid[m] | Ah it's in field :D |
| 11:13 | ashimema++ | |
| 11:14 | ashimema | those libraries are nice once you wrap your head around them 😜 |
| 11:14 | but they do take a little wrapping | |
| 11:15 | paulderscheid[m] | That's on me, honestly. |
| 11:15 | I should have parused ˆˆ | |
| 11:16 | *perused | |
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| 11:40 | oleonard | o/ |
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| 11:51 | paulderscheid[m] | \o |
| 12:13 | magnuse | o/ |
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| 12:32 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:32 | o/ | |
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| 12:32 | marcelr | back o/ |
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| 12:47 | * kidclamp | waves |
| 12:48 | kidclamp | cait: RM ping seems important :-) |
| 12:49 | cait | aah there he is |
| 12:49 | kidclamp: pm | |
| 12:53 | tcohen | oh secret talks :P |
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| 12:55 | cait | not fun ones maybe ;) |
| 13:23 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | Hello. I have a question. What settings do I need to make so that the Koha search engine can search more accurately and filter more accurate results? |
| 13:25 | cait | that's a very very broad question |
| 13:26 | what is the issue that you see? too many results? | |
| 13:26 | are you using zebra? | |
| 13:29 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | I'm using zebra and too many results are showing |
| 13:30 | oleonard | NikolayGospodinov[m]: Can you make a guess at why you have too many results? |
| 13:31 | NikolayGospodinov[m]: Matching parts the record you don't want it to? Search being to "fuzzy" ? (matching variations of words) | |
| 13:33 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | For example, when i search in Authorities for specific title I get a lot of results that are not related to my search |
| 13:33 | I don't know the reason | |
| 13:42 | oleonard | NikolayGospodinov[m]: Have you done a full Zebra reindex? |
| 13:42 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | Yes |
| 13:43 | oleonard | NikolayGospodinov[m]: I think you'll have to try to identify ways in which Zebra is making mistakes before you'll be able to find out how to tune Zebra to work better. |
| 13:43 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | oleonard: How do I do that! |
| 13:44 | oleonard | Examine a record which you think shouldn't have been included in search results to see if there are instances or variations of the words you searched with |
| 13:45 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | aha. Okey |
| 13:46 | oleonard | NikolayGospodinov[m]: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Category:Zebra |
| 13:47 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | I tried searching for a personal name "Elin Pelin", but all sorts of other names like "Anje" appear in the results |
| 14:08 | marcelr | kidclamp are you updating the pad ? i see entries already done |
| 14:09 | we are working in the saem section | |
| 14:09 | same | |
| 14:09 | kidclamp | I am updating |
| 14:09 | Trying not to overlap | |
| 14:10 | marcelr | we did |
| 14:10 | shall i jump a bit lower ? | |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | I'm at the bottom working up |
| 14:11 | marcelr | ok than it was just already done.. |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | yeah, there may be some that were fixed on other pads |
| 14:13 | oleonard | How best to report a problem when testing 34478? |
| 14:20 | Or maybe the question is, how to know which pages are ready for testing? | |
| 14:20 | marcelr? kidclamp? ^^ | |
| 14:21 | kidclamp | the various pads tell you what we have done oleonard - I don't think it can be tested really until done |
| 14:22 | I am not sure how we plan to handle SO/QA - I think Joubu is reviewing all our patches and (I have assumed) we are all testing as we make changes | |
| 14:22 | I expect (many) followups once we push | |
| 14:25 | oleonard | Okay. So no way to contribute through testing at this time? |
| 14:37 | magnuse__ | bug 34478 |
| 14:37 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34478 is not accessible. |
| 14:40 | kidclamp | oleonard: correct -not testing time...yet |
| 14:40 | magnuse__: ping Joubu for access | |
| 14:40 | oleonard | kidclamp 👍🏻 |
| 14:45 | magnuse__ | kidclamp: i have access, just didn't realize it was a security bug :-) |
| 14:52 | cait | Joubu: success, regression.t is not failing, but now it's running the cypress tests (and failing) ;) |
| 14:54 | Joubu | cait: the one I fixed 2 days ago? |
| 14:54 | it's SO IIRC | |
| 14:54 | cait | NikolayGospodinov[m]: did you limit your search to the main heading? default I think is to search the whole record |
| 14:54 | NikolayGospodinov[m]: look at the marc record and search for elin there - maybe it references it or has another name form that matches | |
| 14:55 | Joubu: that one exactly | |
| 14:55 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | is to the main hading |
| 14:55 | cait | Joubu: so we know where to head next - I can push test file changes, right? |
| 14:56 | Joubu | well you are RM you decide |
| 14:56 | cait | that's mean |
| 14:56 | Joubu | yes push |
| 14:56 | cait | I'd like to push them, the only changes are .ts |
| 14:56 | I just checked | |
| 14:57 | I guess that shoudl not interfere? | |
| 14:57 | Joubu | it won't |
| 14:57 | cait | cool, so I'll do that now and maybe we will get to green, who know, stranger things have happened |
| 15:07 | Joubu | kidclamp, ashimema, tcohen: I am totally stuck on bug 33568. I've tried to explain what's going on in the following commit message |
| 15:07 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33568 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, ASSIGNED , Use the REST API to display items on the biblio detail view |
| 15:07 | Joubu | https://gitlab.com/joubu/Koha/[…]3e82e5cacf03b5834 |
| 15:08 | and.. do we really (really?) want this LPAD ordering? | |
| 15:08 | I think cait told me yes already when I tried to remove it some months ago | |
| 15:11 | cait | LDAP ordering? |
| 15:13 | Joubu | LPAD |
| 15:13 | left pad on copynumber | |
| 15:13 | \"LPAD( me.copynumber, 8, '0' )", | |
| 15:14 | just tell me we don't need it please. I lost 4 hours in my day but at least it's fixed! | |
| 15:18 | cait | I have no idea what you are talking about, but sure! ;) |
| 15:19 | left pad I think woudl only make sense if we can't sort numerical, but I think datatables can do that nicely anyway? | |
| 15:19 | kidclamp | the reason would be that copynumber 10 would sort before copynumber 8 without this, correct? |
| 15:19 | cait | I think it depends, I believe if you only have numerical values... does datatables not sort correctly? |
| 15:19 | I thouht it did some kind of data detection | |
| 15:20 | kidclamp | Yeah, I say remove it and we build a copynumber_sort column in the future if needed |
| 15:20 | Joubu | bug 3521 explains it |
| 15:20 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3521 trivial, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, CLOSED FIXED, Items table in catalogue/detail.pl and cataloguing/additem.pl is sorted nonsensically |
| 15:20 | Joubu | now |
| 15:20 | cait | 3.8.2 |
| 15:20 | Joubu | the idea is to display the items depending on this sort |
| 15:20 | kidclamp | the performance issue for sites with many copies is bigger than sorting issues imho |
| 15:21 | Joubu | when sort on library name, enumchron, then this copynumber stuff and finally date |
| 15:21 | cait | I tink sorting by copynumber shoudl not be solved more elegantly |
| 15:21 | Joubu | hum? |
| 15:21 | cait | well in the gui |
| 15:21 | kidclamp | drop the LPAD I say :-) |
| 15:21 | cait | if it#s about detail pages, the detail pages sort differently already anyway |
| 15:21 | Joubu | ok! |
| 15:21 | cait | not even sure if that sequence is kept now |
| 15:21 | Joubu | don't tell me twice, should have asked before! |
| 15:22 | cait | if we need to let Joubu remove something to make Joubu happy... we can do that :D |
| 15:22 | kidclamp: how is my patch set? | |
| 15:23 | I expect you to finish before I leave next week ;) | |
| 15:23 | kidclamp | the CSRF? We're going - I tasked Lucas and Khall to focus on this too |
| 15:23 | cait | good job |
| 15:27 | hm I see something strange | |
| 15:27 | my master branch tells me it's not up to date with master... but I am the only one changing master | |
| 15:34 | I figured it out I think... | |
| 15:45 | yep | |
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| 16:04 | reiveune | bye |
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