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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 06:42 | paxed | so, there's no command-line script to undelete biblios &c? |
| 06:55 | fridolin joined #koha | |
| 06:55 | fridolin | yellow |
| 07:19 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 07:20 | paxed: don't think so, the only thing i know about is a plugin | |
| 07:20 | paxed | it's simple enough, just few sql, but still ... |
| 07:27 | fridolin joined #koha | |
| 07:35 | magnuse | paxed: either it's not something a lot of people want to do, or it's so simple everyone has their own solutions |
| 07:37 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 07:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:53 | lds joined #koha | |
| 08:05 | cait joined #koha | |
| 08:06 | Joubu | fancy yet another auth bug? bug 35935 |
| 08:06 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35935 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Wrong branch picked after an incorrect login |
| 08:07 | cait | hm auth bug for breakfast? not sure about that |
| 08:09 | Joubu | not what I prefer either |
| 08:10 | but there is a patch and testing is easy.. | |
| 08:36 | cait | I need tot ake care of the other chaos first |
| 08:59 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | Hello, I have the following question. Someone has uploaded Koha electronic materials to Europeana |
| 09:00 | magnuse | Joubu: i'm having a go at 35935 |
| 09:04 | done | |
| 09:08 | magnuse joined #koha | |
| 09:11 | Joubu | thanks, magnuse! |
| 09:14 | ashimema | morning |
| 09:14 | magnuse, just the man 🙂 | |
| 09:14 | Is 'Libris' like a Union catalogue? | |
| 09:15 | magnuse | lets see, yes i guess you would say so |
| 09:16 | cataloguiing happens there, and then records are exported from there to local ils'es | |
| 09:16 | ashimema | I've been tasked with integrating |
| 09:17 | magnuse | Libris does not know about items, but can fetch item data in real time from ils'es |
| 09:17 | lucky you ;-) | |
| 09:17 | ashimema | I'm thinking a regular stage + commit from the command line nightly as a starting point |
| 09:17 | somewhat came out of nowhere for me.. lol.. sales people love committing me to things 😜 | |
| 09:18 | magnuse | lulz |
| 09:18 | ashimema | at some point I think Pedro will likely submit some merge requests to the Libris ILL backend btw.. to update it to ILL2.0 plugin style.. but it's a way off |
| 09:19 | magnuse | that would be awesome |
| 09:19 | here is something a number of libraries use to import records from Libris: https://github.com/Libriotech/ftp2koha it can do both ftp and oai-pmh | |
| 09:20 | ashimema | oh cool, thanks for sharing |
| 09:20 | 🙂 | |
| 09:20 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:21 | ashimema | We have loads of ftp scripts knocking around.. I've been meaning to try and turn them into a plugin for a while |
| 09:21 | magnuse | interesting! |
| 09:21 | ashimema | I kinda want to create a system where plugins can depend on other plugins |
| 09:21 | so a generic 'ftp' plugin would be a dependancy of various 'importer' plugins | |
| 09:22 | magnuse | +1 |
| 09:22 | ashimema | I get the feeling we're all writing our own 'quick and dirty' scripts to do the same stuff |
| 09:22 | mostly | |
| 09:22 | be nice to formalise some bits of it and share the work ☹️ | |
| 09:22 | 🙂 | |
| 09:22 | even | |
| 09:24 | magnuse | hehe, that does sound like an awesome plan |
| 09:28 | ashimema | EDI does ftp/sftp/ftps/scp all 'in koha'.. I reckon we could borrow a lot from it |
| 09:28 | has a nice enough UI for configuring etc | |
| 09:28 | anywho.. many thanks for sharing | |
| 09:29 | magnuse | np |
| 10:52 | tcohen | hola #koha o/ |
| 11:19 | PedroAmorim[m] | \o |
| 11:21 | oleonard | o/ |
| 11:22 | khall joined #koha | |
| 11:23 | paulderscheid[m] | I now know what OAI-PMH is. I want that :D |
| 11:23 | morning #koha btw | |
| 11:25 | maybe we should tag everything on github w/ koha that's related to it ashimema magnuse | |
| 11:25 | Does gitlab have tags? | |
| 11:27 | Joubu | How do I share a list at the OPAC? it's private, OpacAllowSharingPrivateLists is on but "Share list" is hidden (the link is in the DOM) |
| 11:36 | oleonard | I don't see that Joubu |
| 11:40 | Joubu | oleonard: https://snipboard.io/ACEZTI.jpg |
| 11:40 | I am sure I am missing something obvious here... | |
| 11:41 | krimsonkharne[m] | is the link inside the list? |
| 11:41 | Joubu | the "Share list" on the detail and "Share" on the list view, both buttons are missing |
| 11:41 | krimsonkharne[m] | hmm |
| 11:41 | Joubu | ha |
| 11:41 | ... | |
| 11:41 | this one again | |
| 11:42 | bug 33331 | |
| 11:42 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33331 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Qwant VIPrivacy is hidding "Share list" link |
| 11:42 | Joubu | I need more space in my brain to store all those useless things |
| 11:44 | we need to turn wahanui into an AI bot | |
| 11:45 | Prince joined #koha | |
| 11:45 | oleonard | Doesn't speak well of Qwant's extension if the existence of the word "share" is all it takes to get it hidden. |
| 11:48 | Joubu | it's the sharelist class |
| 12:09 | * cait | waves |
| 12:12 | pushes things | |
| 12:12 | oleonard | \o/ |
| 12:13 | cait | well... git bz applying things... but push will be coming |
| 12:15 | oleonard | Pretty soon I'll be ready to slip a Bootstrap 5 patch in between two smaller patches so you don't even notice it's there until after you push it ;) |
| 12:15 | cait | lol |
| 12:15 | you can try... but I doubt it | |
| 12:15 | * cait | is being thorough |
| 12:15 | cait | that said, I trust you tested bug 35483 |
| 12:15 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35483 normal, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Passed QA , Restore item level to record level hold switch in hold table |
| 12:16 | oleonard | I remember testing it |
| 12:16 | cait | always a good sign |
| 12:19 | Herwig joined #koha | |
| 12:23 | cait | hm no Matt around |
| 12:23 | ashimema: can you trigger him maybe? | |
| 12:24 | ashimema | consider him poked |
| 12:24 | he might be on lunch though. | |
| 12:30 | cait | thx anyway :) I think I resolved my first quesiton, running cypress tests now |
| 12:31 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 12:31 | ashimema | 🙂 |
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| 12:55 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | Sorry cait, was just on a lunch run - still need me for something? |
| 12:58 | Herwig_ | Hello we are using koha 3.22 our server has moved to a new machine but now if i stage a mark file it get staged but i cant import them annymore also marc files i imported succesfully before the new server annyone anny id what the cause could be |
| 12:58 | ashimema | wow.. that's going back |
| 12:58 | I've not seen a 3.22 series in years | |
| 12:58 | Herwig_ | ye we did not update in a while |
| 12:58 | cait | maybe |
| 12:59 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: waiting for test results, but I think we might have an issue in preseration | |
| 12:59 | hm | |
| 12:59 | ashimema | not since 2015 😉 |
| 12:59 | cait | or maybe you are not to blame for that, it looks likee we have failing cypress tests either way |
| 13:00 | ashimema | actually.. it went out of support in May 22 2017 |
| 13:00 | was a good release though.. had a long innings | |
| 13:00 | cait | ah, I was confused, but you are talking about 3.22 |
| 13:00 | ashimema | I'm afraid Herwig_ you're unlikely to find many people with a memory that long 😜 |
| 13:01 | Herwig_ | well we are planning an update afther this well that is what it says today ;) |
| 13:01 | cait | MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: as you know more vue than i do... could you confirm that the tests are failing without the patches for you too? |
| 13:01 | https://paste.koha-community.org/37060 | |
| 13:01 | ashimema | you'll likely need to take a deep dive into the logs and look at your dependancies and things |
| 13:01 | Herwig_ | dependdancies on ? |
| 13:02 | ashimema | Koha's depends on all sorts of perl modules and those might depend on various other code libraries and things |
| 13:03 | cait | fi your new server has a new OS it might be something is not compatible |
| 13:03 | ashimema | I'd put money on it being that your new server is using a much newer version of something that Koha is using and that there's been an incompatible change in that dependency that's causing you issues |
| 13:03 | Herwig_ | it is lifted and chifted to a new system so nothing should have been changed |
| 13:03 | ashimema | the hole OS image etc was moved? |
| 13:03 | or just Koha transplanted onto a new system | |
| 13:04 | cait | MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: Joubu confirms he sees the failures too, so we can rule out the infinite scroll - you are innocent ;) |
| 13:04 | Herwig_ | as it is telling me (sitting next to me) they just moved everything os included |
| 13:05 | cait | we used to have 3.22 |
| 13:05 | if it's not a dependency issue... you still need to dig a big | |
| 13:05 | ashimema | interesting |
| 13:05 | OK.. I'm at a blank then | |
| 13:05 | cait | it could be the temp file not having right permissions or something like that |
| 13:05 | I very darkly remember something like that happeneing... | |
| 13:05 | ashimema | anything showing up in the Logs? |
| 13:06 | * ashimema | liked 3.22.. but wow things have moved on since then |
| 13:06 | Herwig_ | they will look at it later i keep you posted |
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| 13:18 | marcelr | o/ |
| 13:19 | does anyone know the background of this qa tools warn pattern :{pattern => qr{_\('.*'\)} , error => "simple-quote string"}, for single quoted strings ? | |
| 13:19 | in templates | |
| 13:21 | Joubu | _('your string') is correct |
| 13:21 | you need _("your string") | |
| 13:21 | marcelr | why is single quote incorrect ? |
| 13:21 | Joubu | _('The elephant') => 'l'éléphant' => boom |
| 13:22 | marcelr | Yes but thats not my example, that just wrong quoting |
| 13:22 | cant we find example with " too ? | |
| 13:24 | Joubu | no |
| 13:24 | or it will explode | |
| 13:24 | marcelr | ok feels like a workaround |
| 13:25 | Joubu | git log and you will find the bug number |
| 13:25 | marcelr | git knows it all :) |
| 13:26 | cait | French |
| 13:26 | it's a translation related coding guideline | |
| 13:27 | translators can't tell the context of the string so they don't know how/when to escape chars | |
| 13:27 | and we also had trouble in Pootle when we tried to escape things in the past | |
| 13:29 | marcelr | ok |
| 13:30 | Joubu | cait: bug 35940 |
| 13:30 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35940 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Cypress tests for the Preservation module are failing |
| 13:31 | cait | thanks |
| 13:31 | does it mean Jenkins was not running them? | |
| 13:31 | Joubu | yes |
| 13:31 | cait | shoudl we fix that too? |
| 13:31 | Joubu | no |
| 13:31 | it's expected | |
| 13:32 | we run them if other things went well | |
| 13:34 | @later tell PedroAmorim[m] could you QA 34886? | |
| 13:34 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:36 | Joubu | cait: I think it is still failing, inconsistently (on another test) |
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| 13:45 | cait | I'll wait for QA step |
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| 14:53 | tcohen | wizzyrea++ |
| 15:15 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 15:15 | website? | |
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| 15:42 | lukeg | marcelr: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35950 |
| 15:42 | huginn` | 04Bug 35950: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Move the handling of statistics patron logic out of CanBookBeIssued |
| 15:42 | lukeg | Your opinion here would be much appreciated |
| 15:42 | marcelr | ok |
| 15:44 | could you add a use case? is this kind of postponed cleanup action? | |
| 15:45 | what should be the trigger? | |
| 15:47 | JasonGreene[m] | Following this "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syebBnhiARk&t=27s" to create the Patron Category, however the new version of Koha doesn't seem to have the link "Patron categories". |
| 15:47 | Is there a new link on Koha 23 ? | |
| 15:47 | marcelr | anyone seeing this on perl -cw Koha/AuthorisedValue.pm ? Inconsistent hierarchy during C3 merge of class 'Koha::AuthorisedValue': |
| 15:47 | on current master | |
| 15:48 | oleonard | Is this a good idea? https://pasteboard.co/jt6MYbDBN6KF.gif |
| 15:48 | marcelr | line 25 use base qw(Koha::Object Koha::Object::Limit::Library); |
| 15:48 | ashimema | I've seen that a bunch of times marcelr |
| 15:48 | I have no idea what the fix might be though ☹️ | |
| 15:49 | marcelr | hmm |
| 15:49 | ashimema | what am I looking at oleonard 🙂 ? |
| 15:49 | Joubu | I like it, oleonard |
| 15:50 | ashimema | I like the idea of putting the library/desk/register stuff in that menu |
| 15:50 | caroline | I like it oleonard |
| 15:50 | ashimema | less sure about cog/menu button/form button there |
| 15:50 | but yeah.. generally I love it | |
| 15:50 | oleonard | ashimema: Yeah that was a quick add for the test |
| 15:52 | lukeg | oleonard: that is nice, i like it. |
| 15:54 | oleonard | Cool I will try to make it a patch... soon. |
| 15:56 | ashimema: What do you have in mind for Bug 35939? Do you not like that the page stretches to fill the whole screen? | |
| 15:56 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Can we have an additional breakpoint for the staff client? |
| 15:57 | ashimema | We actually it to stretch |
| 15:58 | It's that it doesn't for the square ratio right now that they find weird. | |
| 15:58 | oleonard | In what situation? |
| 15:58 | ashimema | Wide-screen looks nice with a left need and centered buttons.. square looks odd having whitespace |
| 15:58 | Let me head back up to my laptop.. on the phone right now having just walked in the door from school run | |
| 16:00 | maybe it isn't an additional breakpoint so much as just triggering the existing one earlier | |
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| 16:03 | ashimema | interesting |
| 16:03 | I just looked at the markup | |
| 16:05 | reiveune | bye |
| 16:05 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 16:10 | ashimema | yeah.. I don't know that this is gong to be all the simple |
| 16:10 | basically they would prefer the existing breakpoint were at an earlier resolution | |
| 16:15 | they'd like lg to trigger higher I think | |
| 16:18 | they want it to stay with the sm layout for a little longer.. for their 1024x1280 display's they've stuck in 'lg' but prefer ratios we have for 'sm'.. they don't want the 'greyspace' on the right side which basically takes up a same space as the left news block | |
| 16:18 | it's a pain I reckon | |
| 16:18 | JasonGreene[m] | Is Patron categories no longer part of Koha or has its name changed? |
| 16:18 | Koha 23 | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | JasonGreene[m]: They're still there |
| 16:19 | ashimema | it's still there |
| 16:19 | on the admin page | |
| 16:19 | caroline | Yeah, they should be under Administration > Patron categories |
| 16:19 | fridolin | see u |
| 16:19 | ashimema | 'Patr categories' first item under 'Patrons and ciruclation' on the 'Administration' page |
| 16:19 | fridolin left #koha | |
| 16:19 | JasonGreene[m] | :-) wherecaroline you got it... thanks... there it is |
| 16:20 | caroline | +1 |
| 16:21 | ashimema | I'm confused.. why is bug 35506 back to assigned? |
| 16:21 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35506 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor, ASSIGNED , selenium/regressions.t is failing randomly |
| 16:21 | ashimema | I thought we'd agreed to push |
| 16:59 | cait | It looks like it never left the ASSGINED status |
| 17:00 | there was no NSO or similar in its history | |
| 17:05 | bye all | |
| 17:06 | JasonGreene[m]: there is also no Koha 23 :) - either 23.05 or 23.11 - we do 2 major ones a year | |
| 17:14 | ashimema | Grr |
| 17:36 | lukeg | Did additional_contents_localizations name get change or something? Wondering why I can't find it here: https://schema.koha-community.org/master/ |
| 17:37 | ashimema | marcelr did some work there fairly recently |
| 17:37 | JasonGreene[m] | cait: Ok, mine is Koha 23.05.04 |
| 19:50 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu I pushed some stuffs that make sense but are WIP |
| 19:50 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:08 | JasonGreene[m] | I'm trying to remove a category and it says "This category is used 366 times" All protons are removed. What am I missing? |
| 20:11 | caroline | JasonGreene[m], maybe check the database? There must be some patrons left with that category |
| 20:12 | SELECT borrowernumber FROM borrowers WHERE categorycode = "ABC"; | |
| 20:12 | JasonGreene[m] | thanks |
| 20:13 | caroline | Or if you want the nuclear approach, you can UPDATE borrowers SET categorycode = "XYZ" WHERE categorycode = "ABC"; |
| 20:15 | JasonGreene[m] | hmmm... I don't know where to run those |
| 20:15 | caroline | If you have access to the database, you can do it directly there. If not, you can do the select in the reports module |
| 20:15 | reports > New from SQL | |
| 20:16 | And from there, you'll be able to batch edit the patrons to give them another category if necessary | |
| 20:16 | New from SQL : https://koha-community.org/man[…]l#report-from-sql | |
| 20:17 | batch modification 1 : https://koha-community.org/man[…]odification-tools | |
| 20:17 | batch modification 2 : https://koha-community.org/man[…]tron-modification | |
| 20:18 | JasonGreene[m] | I'll try, Thanks |
| 20:41 | I think I found it....... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]eOsdnTNboStELBlFE>) | |
| 20:42 | caroline | JasonGreene[m], I would do a batch modification to change them, if that's the ultimate goal. |
| 20:43 | From the report results, there should be a button "Batch operations with X visible records" | |
| 20:44 | You can change the Rows per page first (button right next to the batch button), lets say, Rows per page = 100, then Batch operations with 100 visible records > Batch patron modification | |
| 20:45 | Change the patron category in the batch tool, the rerun the report, you should have 1000 less results | |
| 20:45 | *100 less results | |
| 20:46 | JasonGreene[m] | I'd like to remove all of them |
| 20:46 | caroline | Then Rows per page = 1000 |
| 20:47 | I like to try small batches at first to make sure it's doing what I think it's supposed to do, then do the rest of the batch in one go | |
| 20:53 | JasonGreene[m] | I don't see a "delete" option. |
| 20:54 | or remove | |
| 20:54 | caroline | You want to delete the patrons? |
| 20:54 | JasonGreene[m] | yes please |
| 20:55 | caroline | ok, it's a bit of a longer road, but still possible |
| 20:55 | JasonGreene[m] | I put them in too many times |
| 20:55 | caroline | Oh, I think it might be easier that I thought. Go to Tools > Batch patron deletion and anonymization |
| 20:56 | Check the box "Verify you want to delete patrons" | |
| 20:56 | JasonGreene[m] | ok |
| 20:56 | caroline | Choose the category in "Whose patron category is" |
| 20:56 | Click Next | |
| 20:57 | It should tell you how many will be deleted, then click Finish | |
| 20:57 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]ion-anonymization | |
| 21:00 | JasonGreene[m] | I did that and there are still some in there |
| 21:00 | caroline | do they have checkouts, fines, holds or something like that? |
| 21:01 | JasonGreene[m] | they have nothing... there are all new accounts |
| 21:03 | caroline | I'm not sure what else would prevent deleting them |
| 21:03 | Are you able to delete one of them manually? Patron account > More > Delete patron | |
| 21:05 | JasonGreene[m] | all account are gone and I'm trying to delete a Patron category and one won't let me because it says "This category is used 365 times. Deletion not possible" |
| 21:07 | caroline | They are still in the borrowers table, so they are somewhere :/ |
| 21:07 | JasonGreene[m] | Sorry I' |
| 21:07 | Sorry I'm lost | |
| 21:08 | caroline | yeah I'm a bit stumped too, sorry :/ |
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| 21:15 | JasonGreene[m] | Thanks for your help, I'll pick up tomorrow and see what I can find. |
| 21:20 | I got it... I changed the "Enrollment period" to yesterday and removed 364 connections... now only "one" is keeping it there... I move that date again and see what I get | |
| 21:22 | thanks again. see you tomorrow |
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