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07:34 | reiveune | hello |
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08:03 | Joubu | plop |
08:13 | @later tell marcelr Hea - first would be to add the missing ones... see bug 23849 | |
08:13 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
08:14 | cait | good morning all |
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09:13 | paulderscheid[m] | morning #koha |
09:22 | krimsonkharne[m] | morning all |
09:37 | ashimema | I'm baffled about userpermissions/flags |
09:37 | shouldn't setting 'superlibrarian' result in 'borrowers.flags = 0' | |
09:38 | Joubu | = 1 |
09:38 | ashimema | and unsetting it, (and not setting any other perms) set it to 'NULL' |
09:38 | Joubu | superlibrarian => flags = 1 |
09:38 | ashimema | (0,'superlibrarian','Access to all librarian functions',0) |
09:38 | oh.. OK | |
09:38 | I thought it was '0' | |
09:38 | Joubu | 2^0 |
09:38 | ashimema | what set's '0' then? |
09:39 | Joubu | nothing checked? |
09:39 | ashimema | oh my.. I'm an idiot 😉 |
09:39 | ah.. | |
09:39 | so 'NULL' and '0' are equivilent. | |
09:39 | my brain | |
09:39 | how come your here Joubu.. though you were off this week 😜 | |
09:39 | go enjoy your break (but thanks for the enlightenment) | |
09:39 | Joubu | If I uncheck all and save I get flags=0 in DB |
09:39 | break is over :D | |
09:40 | ashimema | ho.. i thought you were out for the whole week |
09:40 | Joubu | from last Wednesday to yesterday |
09:43 | ashimema | okies, I mis-understood |
09:43 | hope you had a good break | |
09:47 | Joubu | too short as usual but excellent ;) |
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10:55 | cait1 | ashimema: I had thoght the same :) I think he gave us wrong dates! :) |
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11:19 | ashimema | Joubu still around? |
11:20 | Joubu | yes |
11:20 | ashimema | I think you may have mis-understood my blocker comment on bug 35329 |
11:20 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35329 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Move patron searches to a modal |
11:21 | Joubu | which one? :) |
11:21 | ashimema | this one: We should have a message similar to that on the funds ownership search in the basket manager search.. we limit that search to users with particular permissions too. |
11:21 | Joubu | I don't think so, see the related bug |
11:21 | ashimema | you added a commit to fix it, but I'm still not seeing the message where I would expect |
11:21 | Joubu | bug 35865, it's on master |
11:21 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35865 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Missing hint about permissions when adding managers to a basket |
11:22 | ashimema | oh, ok.. so you did that one on a separate bug |
11:22 | my mistake | |
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11:23 | ashimema | what does Yes, this is a bug, fixed in "Fix filter vars scope". fix then? |
11:24 | saa | we enabled opac with https support. When we try to see MARC record we receive error as  AH01114: HTTP: failed to make connection to backend: httpd-UDS, referer: https://opac.ncl.res.in/cgi-bi[…]q=su%3A%22Test%22 |
11:24 | [proxy:warn] [pid 3092] AH03408: HTTP: reusable backend connection is not empty: forcibly closed | |
11:24 | can anyone provide a clue to sort this error | |
11:25 | ashimema | should bug 35865 be a dependancy for bug 35329 then |
11:25 | Joubu | ashimema: there are 2 things: |
11:26 | 1. on the fund edit there are "owner" and "users". There is a regression here: users didn't have the hint | |
11:26 | 2. on the basket manager search there is no hint, but it is missing on master as well (hence the new bug) | |
11:27 | ashimema | I actually thought the hint missing on 'users' for the buget page was correct? |
11:28 | Joubu | nope, the list is filtered |
11:28 | see Koha/REST/V1/Acquisitions/Funds.pm | |
11:28 | ashimema | I thought only the owner was able to manage the budget, whilst the users was the list of acq people able to use that budget |
11:28 | Joubu | 69     my $patrons_rs = Koha::Patrons->search->filter_by_have_p​ermission('acquisition.budget_modify'); |
11:28 | ashimema | ah.. ok |
11:28 | Joubu | 93     my $patrons_rs = Koha::Patrons->search->filter_by_have_p​ermission('acquisition.budget_modify'); |
11:28 | ashimema | this is so involved |
11:28 | lol | |
11:28 | at least I'm being thorough 😜 | |
11:29 | Joubu | I don't get what you mean |
11:30 | ashimema | I'm likely just showing my lack of knowledge around acquisitions |
11:30 | I don't really understand the difference between a 'user' and 'manager' on a fund | |
11:31 | I had presumed the users that could be assigned as the budget owner and the users that could be assigned as budget users were different lists of poeple basically | |
11:32 | thus.. I thought the hint should be different | |
11:32 | not duplicated | |
11:32 | but you've just pointed out that in code that is not the case | |
11:32 | so it's fine | |
11:33 | Joubu | I think it's just to highlight that one user is more involved than others, they are the "owner". |
11:34 | there is also a dropdown list "restrict access to " on the edit page | |
11:34 | ashimema | I'd always assumed, without having read the docs around it, that an 'owner' was who set it up and managed the overall amount assigned to it.. and the 'users' were those that could assign orders to it.. haha |
11:34 | i see | |
11:36 | Joubu | upgrading weblate in a couple of minutes |
11:52 | Annelisterman[m] | In Preservation module in Trains there are two words "barcode:" and "name:" that I cannot find from translations/po files. Still they are translated correctly. They are written in lowercase which bothers me and I would have wanted to change the translation to start with uppercase letter. :D |
11:55 | Joubu | I think it's fixed |
11:55 | Annelisterman[m]: bug 35387 | |
11:55 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35387 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Capitalization: Labels in preservation module are not capitalized |
11:58 | Annelisterman[m] | Joubu: thanks! I'll try again. |
12:44 | tuxayo | hi :) can we have a bugzilla keyword like not-testable-on-sandbox ? To not go over the same ticket again after assessing that it's not testable. |
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12:45 | tuxayo | The description of the keyword could point to https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_not_in_a_sandbox |
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12:52 | ashimema | we have the oposite |
12:52 | a 'sandbox' ketword to try and point out easily testable via sandboxes | |
12:54 | cait1 | in theory... can the users use and the owner edit the fund? |
12:56 | ashimema | well that's what I thought was the case 😜 |
12:56 | but I'm told I was wrong | |
12:56 | at least.. it's the same permission that's checked in either case | |
13:01 | tcohen | hola #koha |
13:06 | PedroAmorim[m] | o/ |
13:07 | cait1 | the mysteries of acq |
13:07 | I heard someone was trying to do some blue sky thinking there? ;) | |
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13:31 | domm[m] | Will koha-zebra --stop prevent Zebra from starting after a reboot? |
13:34 | Joubu | no |
13:39 | domm[m] | And is there a way to stop Zebra from starting after reboot? |
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13:40 | tcohen | why are you so mean, poor zebra |
13:40 | it seems we never added a way to disable it! | |
13:40 | Joubu | yes, we should have a --disable flag |
13:41 | tcohen | and make koha-list aware |
13:44 | tuxayo | ashimema: «we have the oposite» «a 'sandbox' ketword to try and point out easily testable via sandboxes» Yes and it's not the same use case. Here it's to not go over the same ticket again after assessing that it's not testable. |
13:47 | The sandbox keyword wouldn't likely be placed by a sandbox user. They would test the bug right away (if they can assess testability) | |
13:55 | And if they can't test, then they could leave a keyword to spare time to another sandbox user. Or just to allow another sandbox user to skip the bug even if they don't know how to assess testability. Which would be most people. | |
13:55 | ashimema | give me a word and I'll add it for you |
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14:02 | tuxayo | ashimema: not-testable-on-sandbox, not_testable_on_sandbox, no-sandbox ? |
14:02 | ^^" | |
14:03 | Anyone else got a preference? | |
14:03 | krimsonkharne[m] | I like no-sandbox |
14:04 | aude_c: around? | |
14:04 | aude_c[m] | yes |
14:06 | ashimema | done |
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14:09 | cait | Joubu: could you run the script for the general IRC meeting? |
14:11 | please :) | |
14:11 | *Â cait | waves at domm |
14:12 | cait | I think he is not mean... he just does want the Zebra to rest when it's not needed |
14:14 | tuxayo | 🦓💤 |
14:15 | ashimema++ thanks it works :) | |
14:25 | Joubu | cait: done |
14:25 | "Actions" part is not relevant for general meeting however | |
14:25 | Actions from last meeting | |
14:25 | aude_c to let cait know there is no Jitsi link for next week's development meeting ashimema to open a new bug to collect suggestions, so a vote can take place at a future meeting. | |
14:25 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_15_May_2024 | |
14:26 | caroline | anyone have an idea why (a lot of) extra `<br>` would be added to an html notice when rendering? |
14:26 | Notice html for the print notice https://snipboard.io/oU6FGB.jpg | |
14:26 | rendering in pdf https://snipboard.io/w4liyq.jpg | |
14:26 | aude_c[m] | Joubu: both these are done anyway |
14:26 | ashimema | what Koha version |
14:26 | we went to pains to fix that recently | |
14:26 | caroline | 23.05 (.05 i think?) |
14:27 | aude_c[m] | Apologies for not realising I shouldn't be using action in General meetings |
14:27 | Joubu | you can use it |
14:27 | if it is relevant for the next one :) | |
14:27 | cait | caroline: which version are you on? |
14:27 | yeah, what ashimema said | |
14:28 | caroline | 23.05 |
14:28 | cait | there was a "bug" that newlines were turned into br... and br were br |
14:28 | so lots of breaks | |
14:28 | caroline | is it bug 35187? |
14:28 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35187 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to oldstable , Fix line breaks in some HTML notices, including WELCOME |
14:28 | cait | it's the tree |
14:28 | that was me going through the sample notices | |
14:28 | but there is another sec | |
14:29 | caroline | I have to put the image in a <p> or something like that? |
14:29 | cait | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34704 |
14:29 | huginn` | 04Bug 34704: normal, P5 - low, ---, matt.blenkinsop, Pushed to oldstable , Print templates are formatted incorrectly |
14:29 | cait | you have to remove the line breaks |
14:29 | ashimema | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]4&hide_resolved=1 |
14:29 | cait | leave the html in, but put everything on one line... |
14:29 | ashimema | that one give's more clues to how involved it was |
14:29 | caroline | ew |
14:30 | Joubu | we should not add <br> when html is ticked |
14:30 | cait | if you only print, you could remove the br... for the line breaks... just do one or the other |
14:30 | Joubu: that#s what we fixed | |
14:30 | if it's html, we don't add any br now | |
14:30 | and I almost had to fight for it :) | |
14:31 | ashimema | looks like bug 35285 still needs a QA eye |
14:31 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35285 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Centralise notice content wrapping for html output |
14:31 | Joubu | I don't understand how caroline's content can generate so much spaces between the logo and the table |
14:31 | ashimema | another tree that didn't quite all go through |
14:31 | caroline | I'll see if I can take the patch onto our version... I'm not so keen on removeing all the line breaks from the html and make it completely unreadable |
14:32 | cait | every \n in the table markup |
14:32 | generates a br | |
14:33 | the fix shoudl be in 23.05.06 - so maybe you could consider an update | |
14:33 | but the fix itself is also not very big | |
14:33 | caroline | yeah unfortunately we don't work that way :) I'll just backport the patch onto our version if that is possible. If not I'll ask one of our devs to make it so that it applies |
14:35 | ashimema | you'll probably want the tree, not just the one bug |
14:35 | they're all closely related | |
14:36 | caroline | so the four "depends on" |
14:36 | I don't think I need to bother with the ones that affect the sample notices | |
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14:51 | ashimema | agreed |
14:51 | unless you're also using that branch for new installs | |
14:52 | caroline | oh right, I hadn't thought of new installs :) |
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15:11 | ashimema | We have that set backported to our 22.11 branch btw Caroline |
15:12 | So I envisage it being trivial on 23.05 | |
15:12 | caroline | +1 I just tried it on our 23.05 and Iit seems to apply cleanly |
15:12 | ashimema | Excellent |
15:12 | cait | hope the effect is also as expected, fingers crossed! |
15:14 | ashimema | Our 23.11's start going live next week |
15:14 | cait | we are in the middle of 22.11 go lives... |
15:14 | ashimema | Fun |
15:14 | cait | but we are quite happy so far - and there have been no issues so far with the new GUI reported |
15:15 | ashimema | Excellent |
15:15 | caroline | us either, we're just finishing our 23.05 updates and no one has been complaining about the design afaik |
15:15 | ashimema | We're really starting to refine our package building process.. it's great to see Jenkins taking the load for us there |
15:15 | Are you an .05 shop caroline | |
15:15 | Or do you do both | |
15:16 | caroline | Do you think it would be pertinent to share your process ashimema, in a conference talk for example? ;) |
15:16 | We only do .05 | |
15:16 | We usually wait until xx.05.05 to make sure the main bugs have been fixed | |
15:21 | cait | LTS we hope... |
15:22 | ashimema | We were a .11 shop |
15:22 | cait | we got it all covered between us ;) |
15:23 | ashimema | Usually around .02 for the early birds and then later as and when we upgrade people. We're moving to doing more upgrades at the same time rather than handling them individually as we have been |
15:23 | Once we have that I think we might push for 05 and 11 | |
15:23 | Certainly for part of the customer base at least | |
15:24 | ByWater are moving that way this year I believe | |
15:24 | As for a talk, not a bad idea though I don't know how good it is for a community aspect . We nearly always run a little ahead of the stables | |
15:25 | caroline | we do a couple of clients at first, volunteers to be our testers, and then we upgrade server by server (so 10-20 clients at a time) |
15:25 | ashimema | I want a rolling release next though . In community |
15:25 | cait | we are on the opposite side right now in terms of update cycle, we used to once a year, but hope to jump from LTS to LTS now |
15:25 | ashimema | Oh, you multi-tenant do you.. we struggled with that.. people wanted configs too different |
15:26 | cait | we do multi-tenant as well for the smaller ones |
15:26 | ashimema | Though we might go back if we can |
15:26 | cait | what kind of configs? |
15:26 | ashimema | Lol, you guys better start thinking about stepping up to rmaint then 😉 |
15:26 | cait | index config etc. is the same for all our ones |
15:26 | I offered to do that if you remember | |
15:26 | the RM kinda came in between | |
15:26 | ashimema | We're yet to see an LTS actually go into lts time |
15:27 | cait | yeah, we will see if it works out if we have a second one, I agree |
15:27 | done a full "LTS cycle" | |
15:27 | ashimema | Yup, though indexing configs work nicely in multi-tenant already if you know how |
15:28 | It's Cron that we come unstuck | |
15:28 | And all the customisations we used to support | |
15:28 | Its been a very slow process weening people off those | |
15:28 | Like a decade plus | |
15:29 | cait | cron is mostly standardized |
15:29 | ashimema | We also struggled to get the different tenants to agree on an upgrade date.. they were all too used to being able to pick their own date |
15:29 | Which is a nightmare | |
15:29 | cait | but we have some extras handled with ansible and a central configuration file - I don't know much about that part of the magic tho |
15:29 | it works :) | |
15:30 | ashimema | Indeed |
15:30 | cait | we could make it easier by moving more options into prefs/config outside cLI params |
15:30 | ashimema | I'm building a crown manager plugin in my spare time |
15:30 | Not that there's much of that these days | |
15:30 | Yup | |
15:30 | cait | spare timeß |
15:30 | ? | |
15:30 | ashimema | Cron prefe |
15:31 | School run, brb | |
15:39 | tcohen | lunch + school drop |
15:39 | cya! | |
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15:50 | cait | I feel left out now... no school runs... |
15:51 | ;) | |
15:51 | oleonard: do you still have school runs? | |
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16:42 | oleonard | cait: No, no school runs unless there are unusual circumstances :) |
16:56 | cait | :) |
17:18 | caroline | should we make it impossible to change 952$y to *not* mandatory? Clients change the marc framework, don't enter item types and then Koha explodes everywhere (latest I found is reception page in acq) |
17:21 | cait | maybe... or make it shout at you? |
17:21 | we could also add it as mistake to the frameworks test | |
17:21 | but with that... I am gone for today :) bye all! | |
17:21 | caroline | Like a howler letter in harry potter? lol |
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17:23 | ashimema | QA queue (for bugs at least) down to 28... |
17:23 | still 150 including enhancements though.. that's rather higher than I'd like | |
17:23 | but.. on that note. I now need to clock out | |
17:43 | oleonard | ashimema++ |
18:01 | ashimema | Matt's going to blitz what he can on erm bugs tomorrow, that'll clear a few too |
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18:23 | tcohen | back |
18:23 | ashimema: do you have the link for the perldoc stuff at hand? | |
19:28 | reiveune | bye |
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20:11 | caroline | anyone else have problems with ktd dying when going up? I do `ktd down`, then `ktd up` and after a while it says koha-1 exited with code 1. It's usually right after "Inserting /kohadevbox/koha/installer/data/mys​ql/mandatory/account_offset_types.sql..." |
20:11 | I tried like 5 times today and it's always the same | |
20:12 | once it stopped when trying to do stuff with apache, but I think that's the time when I did ktd up and then locked my computer | |
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20:14 | davidnz | For KTD I normally do a git pull, ktd pull, then ktd up - if I have trouble I normally delete all the docker images and volumes and do a fresh ktd pull |
20:14 | caroline | it's worth a try! |
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20:15 | davidnz | Mine is currently working OK, before the KTD stuff I normally git pull for koha and make sure I'm on the master branch |
20:15 | good luck! | |
20:18 | caroline | it was working fine yesterday, which is why I'm a bit confused |
20:19 | davidnind | I don't think I have seen any recent ktd git or image changes, so I would be confused as well! |
20:24 | emlam | oof...when mine does that, restarting the computer usually fixes it if ktd down + pull things doesn't. |
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20:26 | blawlor[m] | I've seen that and think it was related to Windows/Docker updates and rebooting resolved it |
20:28 | caroline | it stopped again... :( I will try restarting my computer later |
20:28 | davidnind | I vaguely remember seeing a docker update in the last week (my desktop is Ubuntu 22.04) |
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20:30 | caroline | Mine is 22.04 too, I might-ve done automatic updates |
20:30 | It's still bugging about something now lol | |
20:37 | davidnind | it's always very annoying when things don't work as they should! |
20:39 | the other problem I've had in the past is not enough disk space (I only have a 256GB drive): df -h / | |
20:40 | caroline | oh yeah I had that recently |
20:40 | I didn't realize every ktd pull created a new image. I thought it was like git pull where it updates whatever you already have | |
20:45 | docker image rm <id> cleared about 40% of my 100G disk | |
21:13 | mtj | hi davidnind, caroline |
21:13 | caroline | hi mtj! |
21:13 | mtj | caroline: good news... a git pull wont always create a new image |
21:14 | caroline | yes! I was talking about ktd pull |
21:15 | mtj | aah, yes... ktd pull |
21:15 | caroline: good news... a ktd pull wont always create a new image | |
21:15 | caroline | lol! |
21:15 | mtj | its likely a new image was built, since you last pulled |
21:16 | docker will then try to only downlown the 'layers' of the image that have changed | |
21:17 | caroline: which ktd image are you having problems with? | |
21:17 | ...the master one? | |
21:17 | caroline | Ok that's what I thought, like git pull, it only pulls the changes. But I had at least 6 of each |
21:22 | I don,t know if it was the master one. I guess so, I don't do fancy things or anything | |
21:27 | davidnind | hi mtj! |
21:32 | mtj | hi davidnind, hope you are well :) |
21:37 | caroline: gimme 5 mins, i will test.. | |
21:39 | davidnind | good thanks mtj! |
22:10 | mtj | koha-koha-1 Â Â Â | Fetching koha-l10n... |
22:17 | davidnind | maybe delete the misc/translator/po directory - ktd will git pull the koha-i10n repository when it starts up |
22:21 | Joubu added some notes about problems with translations to the KTD readme: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]#another-problems | |
22:24 | mtj | $ sudo chown -R kohadev-koha:kohadev-koha misc/translator/po |
22:25 | ta, looks to have fixed that ^ | |
22:25 | hi caroline, try 'ktd pull' again | |
22:27 | looks like its working for me, on master - after i fixed that l10n issue | |
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