IRC log for #koha, 2024-01-02

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07:01 krimsonkharne[m] morning #koha!
07:10 ashimema Morning
07:58 magnuse davidnind++ 595 signoffs in 2023 is just amazing!
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08:19 cait good morning #koha
08:29 puphaus[m] Good Morning everyone :)
08:29 PedroAmorim[m] o/
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08:46 cait good morning and a happy new year everyone :)
08:48 Annelisterman[m] Happy new year! :)
09:07 paulderscheid[m] From me as well, good morning #koha
09:09 aude_c[m] Happy new year!
09:14 cait confetti! :)
09:14 ashimema happy new year 🙂
09:14 cait hm wahanui bot still missing
09:15 magnuse happy new year!
09:17 cait: o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
09:20 cait thx magnuse :)
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09:38 ashimema bye bye xmas theme
09:38 it was nice seeing you
09:42 cait wasn#t it a winter theme? :)
09:42 ashimema it was rather christmassy
09:42 wouldn't mind some more seasonal themes for the dashboard though
09:43 but I'd also rather like it to be bootstap updated and a few other things first
09:43 doesn't get a great deal of love
09:44 * ashimema wonders if todays quote is cait
09:44 ashimema >i can not not plan! i am german!
09:56 cait that sounds very much like me yes
09:56 but it changes with every reload, so... :)
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11:35 oleonard Hi #koha, Happy New Year
11:55 cait happy new year oleonard :)
11:56 * oleonard has just a bit of email to get through today ;)
11:57 cait I was hoping fora nother quiet week, but I think it's not going to happen
11:57 tcohen Hola
11:57 happy new year!
11:57 cait hola and happy new year! :)
12:03 magnuse happy new year!
12:05 trying to figure out how to use koha-dpkg-docker. guess i'm a bit confused about what happens where... currently stuck at some problem with local changes to .css and .po files. should it work? anyone got a hint? tcohen?
12:05 "dpkg-source: info: you can integrate the local changes with dpkg-source --commit" but where should "dpkg-source --commit" go?
12:05 https://paste.koha-community.org/33965
12:06 cait can someone remind me of the max size of a MARC (not XML) record?
12:07 magnuse cait: 9999 chars or bytes or something?
12:07 cait Record length  (character positions 00-04), contains a five-character ASCII numeric string equal to the length of the entire record, including itself and the record terminator.  The five-character numeric string is right justified and unused positions contain zeroes (zero fill).  The maximum length of a record is 99999 octets.
12:07 magnuse something to do with a field at the start that can only hold 4 digits
12:07 cait yah
12:07 magnuse ah, one off
12:07 cait one more, but yes
12:07 magnuse :-)
12:07 cait octets = characters here?
12:08 tcohen magnuse
12:08 magnuse tcohen:
12:08 tcohen looking
12:08 magnuse s/://
12:08 cait All ASCII characters are encoded using one octet in the ASCII encoding and the Unicode UTF-8 encoding, thus a character is equivalent in length to an octet when an element's values are restricted to ASCII.
12:08 tcohen magnuse: local changes need to be commited
12:09 magnuse tcohen: but it looks like local changes are made in the process, generating .css files and also something with the .po files?
12:09 tcohen ah
12:09 it mmakes sense
12:10 I wonder what is mtj doing
12:10 because that's not a koha-dpkg-docker error, but from the build process itself
12:11 khall: are you aware of this issue? did you solve it on your builds?
12:18 magnuse oops, scared him away...
12:34 https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]docker/-/issues/4
12:36 cait magnuse: not sure if that is your issue, but when we did our last packages we had issues with CSS files
12:36 and the fix from the "easy" page worked - you need to makre sure to use the correct yarn etc. versions
12:37 magnuse sounds like it could be related
12:37 cait po files etc. worked after we fixed that
12:37 https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way
12:38 It's this bit: Check npm/gulp/nodejs package versions
12:38 magnuse ah, interesting
12:40 cait but we ar using the old pbuilder process, not the koha-dpkg-docker one
12:51 magnuse but pbuilder is involved there too, so i am testing it now
12:57 that did remove the long list of css and po files
12:59 and now i notice https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]/koha-dpkg-docker says "Example of directories that must be removed permanently or backed up elsewhere ... koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css/maps/"
13:00 cait so.. it helped a little?
13:03 magnuse i think so!
13:03 cait yay!
13:04 if it worked, the package will be much smaller thaqn beofre (because no po files)
13:10 @seen paul_poulain
13:10 huginn` cait: I have not seen paul_poulain.
13:10 cait paul_p++
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13:33 magnuse cait: bleurgh, i had some other uncommitted changes. when i took away those i get the same error again. so it looks like npm etc stuff didn't help after all...
13:34 tcohen magnuse: if you run the build-git-stanpshot script the old way
13:34 magnuse cait: the "time" link in the email about the dev meeting is for "Wednesday, 13 December 2023"
13:34 tcohen I guess you will get the same
13:34 so this doesn't seem like a koha-dpkg-docker error, but on the tooling we have
13:38 magnuse "$ sudo ./debian/build-git-snapshot" gives "dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../koha_22.11.12.kbase.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}" so different errir
13:38 *error
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13:44 cait magnuse:: gah.
13:44 i read it like 3 times
13:47 ah, got the wrong time link...
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14:07 thd pauldersheid[m] Are you present?
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15:46 paulderscheid[m] yeah
16:04 thd pauldersheid[m] Did you find the Loïc Dachary's Mailman 2 to Discourse import scripts?  They need some updating for Discourse changes in the past year or to and changing of some hardcoded values but they are much better than merely using the Discourse mbox import.
16:07 Discourse mbox archive import only imports users who posted to the previous mailing list and then only as "staging" users not real users with permissions to do something useful.  Loïc Dachary's Mailman 2 to Discourse import scripts create real users.
16:12 pauldersheid[m]  https://lab.enough.community/dachary/rezo-import/ .  git clone needs an extra parameter for that repository to include components.
16:15 git clone --recurse-submodules https://lab.enough.community/dachary/rezo-import
16:15 paulderscheid[m] Thanks, i will look into it soon
16:16 thd ... etc. under Setup in the README.
16:17 I have made some extensive research into all aspects of Discourse and will post the various aspects in pieces for the bug soon.
16:17 paulderscheid[m] That's great to hear! Looking forward to it :)
16:18 thd Loïc Dachary uses undocumented Discourse API calls for configuration.
16:19 Most of the Discourse API is undocumented.  Civilized Discourse Construction Kit does not really do documentation.
16:23 It would be great to add some better user default settings for each user created from the mailing list.  Loïc Dachary API use is for Discourse admin settings but it would be nice if mailing list members had a mailing list compatible configuration created to start.  Setting all the options for proper mailing list compatibility is not obvious as an admin or a user.
16:24 * thd has been doing repairs at my place on and off the past few days and working all night.  /ME needs sleep :)
16:29 thd Plugin to test Discourse with real user data but blocking email being sent to users from the test system https://github.com/merefield/discourse-isolation .
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