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| 08:01 | cait2 | good morning #koha |
| 08:01 | anyone around? | |
| 08:03 | Annelisterman[m] | Physically yes, mentally.. perhaps |
| 08:05 | cait2 | :) |
| 08:05 | davidnind | good evening! |
| 08:06 | cait | hi davidnind! |
| 08:06 | davidnind | :-) |
| 08:06 | cait | hope you two had nice christmas holidays! |
| 08:09 | Annelisterman[m] | It was pretty quiet. Some snow clearing to do. :) |
| 08:10 | davidnind | it was good - had Xmas at my niece's, and visited cousins - hope you had a nice day as well! |
| 08:11 | krimsonkharne[m] | morning all! |
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| 08:59 | cait | Annelisterman[m], davidnind: sorry, got pulled away by restarts for updates... had a lovely christmas with family as well :) |
| 09:13 | ashimema | morning #koha |
| 09:40 | aude_c[m] | 'Morning! |
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| 09:45 | saa | how to enable virtualkeyboard in koha for regional language search |
| 09:46 | in opac | |
| 09:51 | krimsonkharne[m] | saa: I think this was asked once a long time ago, I found a response linking to https://greywyvern.com/code/javascript/keyboard/ |
| 09:51 | see "Installation".. you'll probably need to put that js in the html of the opac header | |
| 09:52 | I don't know how you would use it in Koha's search bar though | |
| 09:53 | saa | right thats what i am wondering |
| 09:54 | is there any simple way to copy paste some script and enable in OPAC so that users can search in different languages | |
| 09:55 | krimsonkharne[m] | the "right" way of doing it would be enabling the installed languages in the system preference OPACLanguages (and make sure opaclanguagesdisplay is enabled) |
| 09:55 | but you would need to install the languages first (I think, I've never done it myself :-) ) | |
| 09:56 | ah, sorry, misunderstood.. that's for display, not for searching | |
| 09:57 | I think someone else will have to chime in on that, I don't have any experience with searching different languages | |
| 09:58 | saa | i hope someone will guide |
| 10:02 | one more query opac suggestions autofill if enabled will it help like google display words while searching | |
| 10:02 | after enabling is it necessary to restart any service to see this feature working in opac | |
| 10:08 | cait | We don't have an auto-complete feature at the moment, but I believe there are some snippets in the jQuery library maybe |
| 10:09 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/JQuery_Library | |
| 10:10 | there is also no feature to enable other screen keyboards, there is a self made solution you could copy here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]C_screen_keyboard - but it's a bit limited and could be better looking (I wrote it, so I know) | |
| 10:11 | krimsonkharne[m] | oh, neat |
| 10:11 | cait++ | |
| 10:19 | cait | there is also Bug 12815 - but it seems to haven't moved in a while - maybe a comment would help |
| 10:19 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 | |
| 10:19 | huginn` | 04Bug 12815: enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, ASSIGNED , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 10:30 | saa | thank you cait let me explore |
| 11:17 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:18 | ashimema | morning tcohen |
| 11:18 | hope you had a good xmas | |
| 11:27 | * cait | waves at ashimema and tcohen |
| 11:28 | tcohen | hi cait! |
| 11:42 | cait | hm why are license users limited to staff with permissions in the ERM module? |
| 11:42 | I had expected that I could also add patrons/members of the institution staff | |
| 11:42 | but maybe I am misunderstanding what users is meaning here | |
| 11:43 | ashimema | pass |
| 11:43 | the chaps in the know here aren't around to day either I'm afraid | |
| 11:44 | tcohen | not on my wheelhouse |
| 11:44 | cait | i found Bug 33427 |
| 11:45 | thx for replying anyway :) at least the bug tells me I didn't miss something fundamental | |
| 11:46 | tcohen | bug 33427 |
| 11:46 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, NEW , Managing individual users with access to subscriptions |
| 11:47 | tcohen | silly VPN issue sorted. back to work! |
| 11:47 | @later tell Joubu I don't have metrics, but it feels like the weblate server is a slow one | |
| 11:47 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:48 | tcohen | I've been looking at the logs while working on translations, the moments it got stuck the Postgres process was using CPU like crazy |
| 11:48 | Annelisterman[m] | I was just about to complain that Weblate is soooooo slow. x) |
| 11:49 | tcohen | Annelisterman[m]: when you translate something, it gets applied to all other versions |
| 11:49 | that's the step that takes a lot of time, sometimes :-P | |
| 11:49 | and the statistics update as well | |
| 11:50 | Annelisterman[m] | I just changed to next translation without any changes and it has been thinking about it for at least 3-4 minutes. |
| 11:51 | tcohen | get a DeLorean and move a few minutes in the future |
| 11:51 | Annelisterman[m] | oh, that would be handy |
| 11:52 | tcohen | server load is around 9 |
| 11:52 | with 4 CPU | |
| 11:53 | Annelisterman[m] | 9 of 100? |
| 11:53 | cait | it can be super fast too, it was in testing initially |
| 11:53 | maybe we need to tweak configuration/setup | |
| 11:53 | tcohen | 900 of 100, Annelisterman[m] |
| 11:53 | cait: maybe it needs a bigger/faster server | |
| 11:54 | it has plenty of memory | |
| 11:55 | Annelisterman[m] | mostly it is ok and quite fast but there are times when it's just pondering something really deep and meaningful. |
| 11:55 | cait | maybe Postgres needs more resources? |
| 11:56 | but I am guessing, it just seems that this was almost our issue with performance recently :) | |
| 11:56 | tcohen | asking my sysadmin to look at it |
| 12:01 | cait | tcohen++ sysadmin++ |
| 12:50 | tcohen | ok, we did some tuning |
| 12:50 | and we have less IO load and IO wait | |
| 12:51 | and Postgres uses much more memory | |
| 12:51 | but it seems anytime someone enters somewhere no one was at before | |
| 12:51 | it takes a lot of resources to build a cache or smth | |
| 12:51 | cait | ah yeah, I noticed that - the second time it speeds up |
| 12:52 | tcohen | the HDD is an old one |
| 12:52 | and there was just too much IO | |
| 12:52 | gabriel++ | |
| 13:10 | cait | anyone else seen a lot of jobs getting stuck as new in rabbitMQ? |
| 13:11 | Elasticsearch indexing jobs especially | |
| 13:21 | ashimema | Es had it's own worker now didn't it |
| 13:30 | cait | it should yes |
| 13:31 | from what I gathered so far there are 3 processes handling the task queue | |
| 13:31 | the "normal" the "long tasks" and the elastic one | |
| 13:40 | ashimema: do your libraries run with RabbitMQ? do you have any issues with jobs not getting done? | |
| 13:52 | ashimema | We turn it off |
| 13:52 | cait | ok thx |
| 13:53 | did you notice any disadvantages without? | |
| 13:53 | and how do you turn it off actually? is there a switch somewhere? | |
| 13:55 | ashimema | Just kill rabbit |
| 13:56 | The workers will then fall back to polling the database | |
| 14:00 | cait | since introduction of rabbitMQ this channel got more violent |
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| 14:13 | ashimema | lol |
| 14:13 | i don't know who is using rabbit honestly | |
| 14:14 | cait | I know someone who is trying |
| 14:15 | ashimema | I think in theory if your going to use multiple workers for the same queue to process jobs in parallel the rabbit is better |
| 14:15 | but so far I've not really seen any need to do that | |
| 14:15 | and really, not many of our jobs are actually designed for such running anyway yet | |
| 14:16 | I think I'd be pro putting a switch in rather than the current behaviour of filling the logs and putting a warning in the about oage | |
| 14:17 | yup | |
| 14:17 | cait | can you explain that last bit? |
| 14:22 | ashimema | currently database polling is a fallback. if you uninstall or stop the rabbit service, SQL will take over. |
| 14:22 | but | |
| 14:22 | we'll spit out a warning in the logs forever | |
| 14:23 | and put a message on the about page | |
| 14:24 | cait | oh that's not realyl nice |
| 14:24 | yeah, a proper switch would do better especially if a lot of people are running with SQL | |
| 14:24 | ashimema | yup |
| 14:24 | cait | do you want me to file a bug for that? |
| 14:25 | .... and bad news on weblate - down for anyone but me? | |
| 14:25 | 502 bad gateway on submitting a translation | |
| 14:26 | ashimema | feel free to submit a bug cait |
| 14:26 | I don't think it would be all that hard to achieve | |
| 14:26 | but I also know some people are keen to rip out the sql polling support entirely instead | |
| 14:27 | I don't know the answer | |
| 14:27 | cait | you mean people might disagree... I can live with that |
| 14:31 | bug 35655 | |
| 14:31 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35655 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Make it possible to switch off RabbitMQ without any warns in logs/about page |
| 14:32 | cait | tcohen: could you check on the weblate server again? |
| 15:10 | it's not working at all for me right now | |
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| 16:28 | * cait | waves |
| 16:42 | tuxayo | 260 working runs of the tests for Bug 35506 so far :) |
| 16:42 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35506 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor, ASSIGNED , selenium/regressions.t is failing randomly |
| 17:01 | cait | ashimema or tcohen still around? |
| 17:02 | RM question about a patch | |
| 17:02 | ashimema | Phone only now I'm afraid |
| 17:02 | cait | maybe it's easy |
| 17:02 | I am reviewing 31297 | |
| 17:02 | ashimema | Fire away |
| 17:02 | cait | you changed the database structure |
| 17:02 | ashimema | Bug 31279 |
| 17:02 | cait | i need to run dbic right? |
| 17:02 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31279 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, CLOSED INVALID, Getting error 500 while doing a search in koha catalogue |
| 17:02 | cait | h |
| 17:02 | 31297 | |
| 17:03 | ashimema | Bug 31297 |
| 17:03 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31297 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , Cannot add new subscription patterns from edit subscription page |
| 17:03 | ashimema | Lol |
| 17:03 | cait | double checked, I got the number right in my DBRev commit |
| 17:03 | ashimema | Okies |
| 17:04 | Yes, you do need to run dbic | |
| 17:04 | cait | so i ran dbic and i have a change in SubscriptionNumberpattern.pm |
| 17:04 | ashimema | And commit the result 🙂 |
| 17:04 | cait | ok cool :) |
| 17:04 | on the right path then | |
| 17:04 | ashimema | Coolioes |
| 17:04 | cait | should i just rwap it in the DBRev patch or better keep separate? |
| 17:05 | hm looks like we keep them separate from history | |
| 17:07 | got it; I think :) | |
| 17:10 | ashimema | Nice one cait |
| 17:12 | cait | another first - but getting there |
| 17:15 | ashimema++ # thx! | |
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