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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:02 | oleonard-away | thanks for the suggestion davidnind, unfortunately that doesn't work for me |
| 00:51 | aleisha joined #koha | |
| 00:51 | aleisha | hello |
| 00:52 | im starting to feel really fed up by background jobs :( we have a whole lot of jobs stuck on New with null/X progress, and the worker-output.log is full of logs like "No job found for id=X" | |
| 00:52 | https://pasteboard.co/xRRsJRHMiTik.png | |
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| 02:17 | mtj | hi aleisha, what version and do you have message-broker set to rabbitmq? |
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| 05:35 | Joubu | tcohen[m]: perltidy's output depend on the version. We discuss that several time, and some work is still needed, see original bug (last comments). |
| 05:36 | @later tell cait translations broken on sandboxes - certainly because of https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]cker/-/issues/405 | |
| 05:36 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:57 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:54 | Joubu | /!\ I am going to upgrade gitea |
| 07:56 | ashimema | 👍 |
| 07:57 | Joubu | done |
| 07:58 | ashimema | That was quick 😁 |
| 07:59 | Joubu | well it was up-to-date already :D |
| 07:59 | ashimema | Feels quicker |
| 07:59 | Lol | |
| 07:59 | Joubu | I need a new version of tar on the docker image :-/ |
| 07:59 | ashimema | I see |
| 08:00 | Joubu | I wished a pull of the docker image would just "fix it" |
| 08:00 | ashimema | I'm travelling most of today so won't be around much btw |
| 08:00 | Shame | |
| 08:00 | Is this for automating the tar builds | |
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| 08:00 | Joubu | yes |
| 08:01 | I am always hitting something I hadn't expected... | |
| 08:06 | well, the version is actually hardcoded in the docker compose file.. | |
| 08:12 | ashimema | I for one am really happy to see some of this stuff being worked on. Automating away infra stuff is great, |
| 08:12 | Hopefully means we have more time for Devs to work on QA and code improvements | |
| 08:13 | Pedro is doing a presentation at our company meeting the next of days around encouraging better more maintainable submissions | |
| 08:13 | Finding the right pragmatism line is hard | |
| 08:13 | I'm looking forward to his presentation, should be good and add weight to the argument for spending more time upfront doing things properly | |
| 08:20 | Joubu | so, tar in alpine is busybox tar, which is missing some basic options of tar... great |
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| 10:30 | cait | Manifestation designation of sequence statement (translating... ) |
| 10:42 | tcohen[m] | Joubu what are you gonna do with GPG signing? |
| 10:43 | Joubu: let me know how I can help you with the release-tools | |
| 10:43 | Maybe we can explicitly install another tar | |
| 10:44 | Or just make it base on debian instead. I picked alpine only because of the size | |
| 10:46 | ashimema: 'Searches regular' | |
| 10:47 | what does that stand for | |
| 10:57 | Annelisterman[m] | <cait> "Manifestation designation of..." <- It's fun to translate when you don't understand the meaning of the original sentence. :D |
| 11:04 | tcohen[m] | How do y'all translate the 'preservation trains' |
| 11:06 | Annelisterman[m] | tcohen what is the context? Where is it used? |
| 11:10 | PreservationNotForLoanDefaultTrainIn? | |
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| 11:19 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:24 | ashimema | huh? |
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| 11:24 | ashimema | what's the context of 'Searches regular' Joubu? |
| 11:24 | sorry. on a train so my internet is rather intermittent right now | |
| 11:26 | tcohen[m] | Anneli Österman: 'train item' |
| 11:27 | Annelisterman[m] | I see, this new feature: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30708 |
| 11:27 | huginn` | 04Bug 30708: new feature, P3, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Creation of a new 'Preservation' module |
| 11:28 | Annelisterman[m] | If I understand correct what this feature does I would translate that in Finnish as "Käsittelyjono".. perhaps |
| 11:32 | tcohen[m] | O 'processing queue' |
| 11:32 | *oh | |
| 11:32 | I like that | |
| 11:33 | Annelisterman[m] | yes :) |
| 11:37 | oleonard | I could really use help testing API access via OAuth2 client credentials... Anyone around who has done that with Postman or something like that? |
| 11:38 | What is "Access Token URL" in this context? | |
| 11:46 | cait | Annelisterman[m]: it was also discussed if "batch" could be a synonym |
| 11:46 | oleonard: sorry to be of no help there :( | |
| 11:46 | only ever used the simple one | |
| 11:49 | can someone translate YOP for me? | |
| 11:49 | i thin it's an abbreviation to do with ERM | |
| 11:50 | oleonard | I'm guessing Year Of Publication... but it's a guess |
| 11:51 | It's probably not Yellow Oleander Poisoning or Yersinia Outer Proteins | |
| 11:53 | cait | aaaah |
| 11:53 | but that makes a lotof sense, thx! | |
| 11:54 | I'll use the poisoning ;) | |
| 11:55 | oleonard | You can keep that one in your back pocket until you need it :) |
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| 12:08 | Joubu | I have created a key for the git user and I will use it to sign the tarballs |
| 12:08 | is that ok for you? | |
| 12:09 | tcohen[m]: I have installed tar (using apk add), but I don't know how to make it persistent | |
| 12:09 | I could just run apk add everytime the hook is triggered, but it's a bit ugly | |
| 12:10 | ashimema: "Search regular", what is the context? | |
| 12:12 | tcohen[m]: I am actually not using the docker image for the tarball, just running some bash commands | |
| 12:12 | tcohen[m]: so using gitea docker image (where alpine is used) | |
| 12:14 | ashimema | Ooh, sorry it was tcohen |
| 12:17 | > ashimema: 'Searches regular' | |
| 12:17 | Confused | |
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| 12:37 | tcohen[m] | Joubu: can't you just use the release-tools image instead? |
| 12:39 | Joubu | it's less easy |
| 12:39 | Annelisterman[m] | <cait> "Anneli Österman: it was also..." <- That would have been consistent with the previously used terminology, yes. |
| 12:40 | Joubu | The image requires a git repo of Koha src. And... paradoxically I don't have it on the git server |
| 12:40 | well, maybe I could, but I also needed a config file, which I will need to generate depending on the tag pushed | |
| 12:41 | really my script is 10 lines length, and I using the docker image will require more work + changes to release tools | |
| 12:41 | 10 lines long* | |
| 12:42 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: could you confirm bug 35374 is not breaking anything for you? | |
| 12:42 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35374 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Translations contain config from ERM/data providers |
| 12:46 | tcohen[m] | Joubu: I trust you a lot. Just count on me if you need some help, more eyes or work on a change on the release-tools image |
| 12:50 | Joubu | I am missing a ssh key on the download.k-c.org server and I am done with the tarballs. I have asked Chris |
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| 16:35 | oleonard | ashimema around? |
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| 16:50 | ashimema | Erm |
| 16:50 | I'm in the bar | |
| 16:50 | But.. fire away | |
| 16:51 | oleonard | Nope, not gonna do that ashimema :) |
| 16:51 | Enjoy! | |
| 16:51 | ashimema | Haha, it's all good |
| 16:51 | I'm still in the coke for now.. it's not even 5 yet here | |
| 16:51 | Company meeting travel day | |
| 16:52 | cait left #koha | |
| 16:54 | oleonard | And I answered my own question, so you're off the hook :D |
| 16:55 | caroline | I really didn't read that like it's about a soft drink... |
| 16:57 | oleonard | So that's what caroline's meetings are like ! |
| 16:57 | caroline | lol!! |
| 17:00 | ashimema | I love being a rubber duck.. especially when all I do is suggest I'll answer without having it actually do any answering |
| 17:00 | Hehe | |
| 17:08 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | <Joubu> "Matthew Blenkinsop: could you..." <- Code looks fine, I'll try and test it later |
| 17:11 | oleonard: I'm looking at bug 34479 (a follow up to your enhancement in bug 29971). We have a customer having issues with patrons being carried through into merges that shouldn't be merged - I'm looking at a possible solution of having a modal pop up after each operation (add to list, merge or batch mod) to show which patrons are selected and asking if the user wants to keep these saved for another operation. In a merge, the merged | |
| 17:11 | patron would be removed from the list by default. Does that sound like an acceptable solution? | |
| 17:12 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34479 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Clear saved patron search selections after certain actions |
| 17:12 | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29971 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Remember selections across patron search pages | |
| 17:12 | * oleonard | pondering |
| 17:12 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | If the user selects no, then the history will be wiped clean or they could opt to de-select some patrons |
| 17:13 | oleonard | MatthewBlenkinsop[m]: The other option I've kicked around in my head would be to clear the selections automatically after each of those operations |
| 17:14 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | That was my first thought |
| 17:14 | But was considering the scenario where a user may want to batch mod a load of patrons, and then add those patrons to a list | |
| 17:14 | Or some other combination of running multiple actions on the same selected patrons | |
| 17:15 | oleonard | Yeah that's true |
| 17:16 | I think your proposal sounds logical | |
| 17:16 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | Another suggestion from Aude was to have a checkbox on the operation screen along the lines of "Keep patrons selected after this operation" |
| 17:16 | Rather than a popup every time you use one of those operations | |
| 17:17 | aude_c[m] | (I'm here too. Sorry, maybe should have thought about where I was writing!) |
| 17:18 | oleonard | I like the checkbox option too |
| 17:19 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | Ok cool, just wanted your thoughts before I start working on a solution |
| 17:19 | I'll work on something later this week after our company get together | |
| 17:19 | oleonard | Great, I'll keep an eye out for it |
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| 17:27 | MatthewBlenkinsop[m] | <MatthewBlenkinsop[m]> "Code looks fine, I'll try and..." <- Just tested and all seems fine, have signed it off 👍️ |
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| 17:49 | reiveune | bye |
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| 18:37 | davidnind | Joubu++ // for fixing installation of translations in KTD |
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| 19:23 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 19:24 | Joubu: ill take a look at the arm KTD stuff now | |
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| 19:59 | tuxayo | @later tell khall bywater sandboxes don't work :( |
| 19:59 | huginn` | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:59 | * kidclamp | cries |
| 20:00 | tuxayo | @later tell ashimema ptfs-e sandboxes don't work :( |
| 20:00 | huginn` | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:02 | tuxayo | ok, turns out the same cause is affecting all 3 sandboxes servers. |
| 20:07 | cc khall_ ↑↑↑ | |
| 20:08 | khall_ | looking into it right now |
| 20:08 | tuxayo | khall++ |
| 20:09 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 20:13 | tuxayo | hi magnuse :) |
| 20:13 | magnuse | kia ora tuxayo |
| 20:15 | * magnuse | loves weblate |
| 20:15 | magnuse | Joubu++ |
| 20:57 | aleisha | hello |
| 20:57 | hey mtj sorry i missed your earlier message , you were on the right track - we didnt have the message broker section in koha-conf! think that's fixed it :) | |
| 21:25 | davidnind | mtj++ |
| 21:25 | aleisha++ | |
| 21:36 | Should you be able to edit the authorized value categories? Where do you add the description? | |
| 21:47 | mtj | hi aleisha, glad that i could help :) 🦆 |
| 21:49 | caroline | davidnind, it didn't used to be possible (I just checked 23.05) |
| 21:49 | mtj | hi davidnind, you can, via Administration > Authorized values |
| 21:49 | caroline | did you mean edit the category of a particular authorized value? |
| 21:50 | mtj | aah, oops ... categories |
| 21:50 | caroline | in 23.05 https://snipboard.io/JknwZ2.jpg |
| 21:51 | mtj | looks like there is no description for auth_value 'catergoies' |
| 21:52 | hi caroline 🐹 | |
| 21:52 | Joubu: i fixed the ktd builds, will send a patch to koha-l10n https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]elines/1079632356 | |
| 21:53 | caroline | hi mtj! :) |
| 21:54 | davidnind | I mean the category itself (rather than the values in a category) - like AR_CANCELLATION (or any of those listed udenr Administration > Basic parameters > Authorized values) |
| 21:55 | caroline | No I don't think you can, you can delete a category if there are no values in it, but I don't think you can rename it |
| 21:56 | if that is what you mean | |
| 21:57 | davidnind | Thanks caroline, I was just wondering why, and where the description are added. Looks like it has been that way for a while - I tried a 22.11 demo site, and you couldn't there either. |
| 22:00 | mtj | davidnind: i think its never been an option? |
| 22:00 | caroline | I think it's because the category name is used in the db and in the code. If you change the category name, the values won't have a valid category anymore... |
| 22:00 | davidnind | Must just be a "feature", or tied up somehow with translations - probably doesn't make sense to rename the actual category. You can't add a description when you add a new authorized value category |
| 22:00 | caroline | there a bug about that |
| 22:01 | the descriptions are currently hardcoded directly in the templates for translatability | |
| 22:02 | bug 23861 | |
| 22:02 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=23861 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add authorised value categories description option |
| 22:04 | davidnind | that explains it! thanks caroline (I should have checked Bugzilla first! 8-)) |
| 22:04 | caroline++ | |
| 22:04 | caroline | no worries! |
| 22:05 | I'm not sure where Weblate gets its "reused" strings. This one tells me "Not an authorized value" has the same translation as "New authorized value" https://snipboard.io/UHiRyl.jpg | |
| 22:05 | But when I search for "(Not an authorized value)" I can't find it? | |
| 22:06 | https://snipboard.io/7v0eyP.jpg | |
| 22:06 | Unless I'm really not looking at the right place, which is entirely possible | |
| 22:07 | It's a new system so I may very well just be lost, heh | |
| 22:13 | davidnind | git grep "Not an authorized value" says it is coming from koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/returns.tt |
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