IRC log for #koha, 2023-11-06

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01:01 schnydszch Hi! Regarding my problem, it was already resolved :)
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06:42 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello! I have a question? How can I optimize koha database?
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06:47 reiveune hello
07:25 ibnsina[m] hi i have problem with connect to ldap
07:25 * ibnsina[m] uploaded an image: (5KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]maEUzUD/image.png >
07:26 uploaded an image: (82KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]qpdGLIN/image.png >
07:27 ibnsina[m] when i use this command
07:27 its retern html page and i copy it to test.html when i try to login its return error 500
07:27 export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ && export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml && perl /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-user.pl userid=user password=userpass
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08:09 paulderscheid[m] Morning #koha
08:10 Damn that was rough weather last week in Amsterdam :D
08:12 khan help i am new at koha want to place header in OPAC using koha 23.05 any one help me i have pasted file in <img src=”/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/images/header.jpg” id=”header-image”> but not working
08:23 cait what do you mean by you have pasted a file? just put in the directory?
08:23 go to Tools > HTML customizations and create an OpacHeader entry there
08:34 ibnsina[m] <ibnsina[m]> "hi i have problem with connect..." <- anyhelp
08:39 cait I don't have logs here, you'll have toa sk the question again
08:39 paulderscheid[m]: Amsterdam is nice - but a lot of rain for you?
08:51 paulderscheid[m] Yeah cait
08:51 Was on vacation there last week
08:51 Two days were so rainy that we had to sprint from one place to the next :D
08:55 <khan> "help i am new at koha want to..." <- Have you read the manual khan?
08:57 https://koha-community.org/man[…]s.html#news-label
09:16 cait paulderscheid[m]: but there is a ton of museums to visit for rainy days :)
09:17 paulderscheid[m]: did you meet with eythian or marcelr?
09:17 PedroAmorim[m]: let's find some time to test your ILL patch for availability issues?
09:18 PedroAmorim[m] o/
09:18 that'd be awesome! thank you so much
09:18 cait also we need a quick patch from you
09:18 we broke editing patron categories with the ILL patch
09:19 PedroAmorim[m] ah bugger, I just started my day and still going through e-mails
09:19 is it 35263
09:19 cait bug 35263
09:19 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35263 blocker, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, NEW , Cannot update patron categories
09:19 cait es
09:19 yes
09:19 PedroAmorim[m] I'm on it
09:19 cait thx! :)
09:31 paulderscheid[m] Nah cait, was a private trip to get away from it all. Maybe next time or if we ever have a KohaCon in the netherlands :D
09:32 Maybe at the Rijksmuseum marcelr :D
09:45 cait I had a behind the scenes tour last time ;)
09:45 paulderscheid[m] Very cool :D
09:57 ibnsina[m] <ibnsina[m]> "image.png" <- is there any help here ?
09:58 cait I already asked you to ask the full question again - i don't see the previous messages here.
09:58 paulderscheid[m] You need to send the screenshot again instead of quoting it ibnsina
09:59 Or better yet use snipboard.io
09:59 cait yes, please
09:59 ibnsina[m] when enable userldapserver login return error 500
09:59 * ibnsina[m] uploaded an image: (3KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]HnKmjcS/image.png >
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10:00 ibnsina[m] here is screenshot
10:01 cait I don't see anything obvious
10:01 does it work for authentication if you deactivate replicate and update?
10:01 it might help to narrow your problem down
10:22 ibnsina[m] can you give me the right step to connect with ldap
10:22 ?
10:25 cait have you seen the instructions in the Koha manual?
10:25 and did you test without replicate and update as I suggested?
10:25 https://koha-community.org/man[…]otocols.html#ldap
10:25 ibnsina[m] i did that but when i enable <userldapserver>1</userldapserver> i got error 500 when login
10:28 paulderscheid[m] Did you look at the logs?
10:28 * ibnsina[m] uploaded an image: (51KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]eWzqSVI/image.png >
10:28 ibnsina[m] yes i disable it
10:28 same
10:28 paulderscheid[m] paulderscheid[m]: ibnsina
10:28 ibnsina[m] which log ?
10:28 apche koha
10:28 opac
10:29 which one do you want ?
10:30 paulderscheid[m] Well, did you look into any of them?
10:30 No errors?
10:31 ibnsina[m] paulderscheid[m]: root@isums-koha:/var/log/koha/library# tail *... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]pHODtHNwqwqnHIYJL>)
10:31 nothing intresting
10:32 just this
10:32 LDAP search failed to return object : 000004DC: LdapErr: DSID-0C090A58, comment: In order to perform this operation a successful bind must be completed on the connection., data 0, v4f7c at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm line 99.
10:33 paulderscheid[m] Did you google the error?
10:35 ibnsina[m] yes
10:35 i think its ldap connection but im sure about all information is good
10:36 use ldapsearch return ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
10:36 additional info: 80090308: LdapErr: DSID-0C090434, comment: AcceptSecurityContext error, data 57, v4f7c
10:36 i dont know why im jure about the info
10:37 paulderscheid[m] Did you look at Auth_with_ldap.pm:99?
10:37 Maybe you can go back some steps in the Code to see where it fails?
10:39 * ibnsina[m] uploaded an image: (59KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]dIaGpEW/image.png >
10:39 ibnsina[m] here
10:40 cait bbl
10:42 ibnsina[m] i used same config on windows and got success result
10:42 * ibnsina[m] uploaded an image: (79KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]AmfgXsa/image.png >
10:42 paulderscheid[m] <ibnsina[m]> "use ldapsearch return ldap_bind:..." <- > <@ibnsina:matrix.org> use ldapsearch return ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
10:42 >         additional info: 80090308: LdapErr: DSID-0C090434, comment: AcceptSecurityContext error, data 57, v4f7c
10:42 If I were you I would triple-check the credentials again
10:42 Ah, is that arabic?
10:42 ibnsina[m] paulderscheid[m]: i did like 10 times not just 3
10:43 paulderscheid[m]: only name is on arabic
10:43 the uid is numbers
10:43 and i installed koha arabic pack works fine
10:43 paulderscheid[m] Ok
10:50 Hmm, I never worked w/ LDAP in koha so I'm not the best person to help you.. Maybe try again in 1-2 hours?
10:51 It's still kinda quiet here atm.
10:52 tcohen[m] hola #koha o/
10:52 ibnsina[m] paulderscheid[m]: ty
10:53 paulderscheid[m] Ah, there's tcohen. Maybe he knows a thing or two.
10:53 LDAP?
10:53 tcohen[m] Maybe, what's up?
10:54 paulderscheid[m] LDAP invalid creds even though they appear to be correctly configured.
10:54 ashimema have you tried the connection outside of koha using ldapsearch or similar~?
10:54 paulderscheid[m] ibnsina?
10:55 They asked for help. I'm trying to find someone who's knowledeable :D
10:55 ashimema ldapsearch -x -b "dc=devconnected,dc=com" -H ldap://192.168.178.29 -D "cn=admin,dc=devconnected,dc=com" -W is a rough example
10:55 ibnsina[m] return ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
10:55 additional info: 80090308: LdapErr: DSID-0C090434, comment: AcceptSecurityContext error, data 57, v4f7c
10:55 ashimema: got this
10:57 ashimema I presume you replaces the content of the -b, -H and -D there 😉
10:57 to match your setup
10:57 it could be firewall related.. at your end or the ldapserver end
10:57 I'd check using ldapsearch with the exact credentials and things setup in your koha
10:58 ibnsina[m] ashimema: i did that its work fine at windows but on ubuntu no
10:59 * ibnsina[m] uploaded an image: (71KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]jvFdOFg/image.png >
10:59 ibnsina[m] here is windows
10:59 * ibnsina[m] uploaded an image: (65KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]HcJqdEb/image.png >
10:59 ibnsina[m] ubuntu config
10:59 paulderscheid[m] The first thing that comes to mind when I hear this is carriage return :D
11:00 ashimema it's been years since I've dug into LDAP I'm afraid
11:00 surprised your not using auth by bind though.. I would have expected that to be the case in 99% of cases
11:09 oleonard Hi #koha
11:10 paulderscheid[m] Hi oleonard
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11:31 ashimema arond?
11:31 cait
11:31 paulderscheid[m] cait's shopping\
11:54 oleonard fridolin and I colliding with Bug 35265 and Bug 35249...
11:54 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35265 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Remove drag and drop in Elasticsearch mappings
11:54 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35249 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use DataTables RowReorder extension instead of tableDND jQuery plugin
11:55 cait I have returned :)
11:55 ashimema: ?
11:55 ashimema I was going to ask about the catalog toggle bug.. looks like you were the last to touch it for QA
11:55 cait yes and it looked nice then
11:55 I commented about that on the bug, something with the CSS appears to be missing?
11:56 ashimema and somehow we lost half the changes in that patch.. only the template change is in that last patch.. the one before it has a lot more
11:56 cait it was a nice slider to the right of the screen instead of the checkbox
11:56 ashimema not jsut css
11:56 the js
11:56 all teh functionality is gone
11:56 cait oh
11:56 wow
11:56 are my uploaded patches broken?
11:56 ashimema I wanted to check if you'd rebased or something and somehow missed re-adding all the files
11:56 I think so
11:56 look at the one patch on bz
11:56 it's only affecting one file
11:57 cait I don't have the branch here
11:57 ashimema if you look at the previous obsoleted one it touches a lot more
11:57 cait so I can't check that - it's on the other computer
11:57 ashimema ah, okies
11:57 well.. we can probably just restore from bugzilla
11:57 I've asked lucas to take a look anyways
11:57 just wondered how it had happened
11:57 cait do we need to revert and push again or how would that work?
11:57 ashimema in other news.. sorry I never got back to the notices and br bug
11:57 cait I have one idea... sometimes my qa tools go... wild
11:57 ashimema thanks for all your work there.. I'm working through now
11:57 cait I have had it happen that it destroyed patches
11:57 but not... partail
11:58 ashimema interesting
11:58 cait usually i notice that, so it's a bit strange, but I don't remember any rebase or other manual work on those
11:58 ashimema doh.. WELCOME email doesn't hit the message queue
11:58 I thought it did
11:58 whats another easy to fake notice in ktd?
12:02 weird
12:02 it does enqueue it
12:02 just doesn't then display it under the patrons notices tab
12:02 ahh..
12:02 maybe I don't have a notice setup
12:13 cait i just made my ktd send emai
12:13 adding my normal smtp server did the trick
12:14 it realyl got tons easier with that dev in
12:14 but I also thought it would go through the message queue
12:14 ashimema I was using a user without an email
12:14 my mistake
12:14 cait ah ok, that would explain that :)
12:14 * ashimema is looking at bug 30287
12:14 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Notices using HTML renders differently in notices.pl
12:16 cait I didn't look closer yet, but I believe it might just need somethign to show html notices differently than the plaint ext ones
12:16 kidclamp ciat++
12:16 cait++ even
12:17 ashimema yes
12:17 it's a tt filter we add
12:18 cait but can't we if else it?
12:18 ashimema yup
12:18 I'm just reminding myself how to spot if a notice is html or not in the first place
12:18 it's interesting
12:18 we use an iframe
12:18 which i wasn't expecting
12:18 cait hmm
12:19 I thin we did that because errors in the HTML kept breaking the page
12:19 ashimema I think I'd have expected the usual modal stuff
12:19 ah, I see
12:19 makes sense
12:19 cait it's a good quesiton about the HTML when coming from the message queue
12:19 paulderscheid[m] Friendly reminder to remove iframes whereever you can :D
12:19 ashimema mm
12:20 cait are they dying or something?
12:20 ashimema not really knowing why we have it there I'm a bit reluctant to remove it in this patch
12:20 but..
12:20 I do think we should completely remove the `html_line_break` filter we're adding and instead wrap the content in a `<pre>` or not depending on is_html
12:21 that's more consistent with what we actually do at print/email time
12:21 cait ashimema: it looks like we set content_type in the message_queue
12:21 at least sometimes
12:21 text/html
12:21 paulderscheid[m] Just for reference, browser native portals are already in experimental phase: https://developer.mozilla.org/[…]ML/Element/portal
12:21 cait maybe we can use that
12:22 or you look it up from letter_code and Message_transport_type
12:22 ashimema mm
12:22 in bug 34728 we set an is_html flag in the controller so we can pass it into the template
12:22 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34728 trivial, P5 - low, ---, matt.blenkinsop, Pushed to oldstable , HTML notices should not be pre-formatted
12:23 ashimema I'm reluctant to do that here creating an additional loop in the controller
12:23 but doing a regex comparison in TT also feels a little dirty
12:23 * ashimema contemplates
12:23 cait i believe we now have objects
12:23 for the messaging things - just not used overall yet
12:24 might mke the look up a tiny bit easier?
12:24 ashimema yeah.. not in this case yet though 😜
12:24 all fun and games
12:28 cait ashimema: you scared oleonard-away away
12:28 ashimema ?
12:28 I did?
12:39 cait it looked like it :)
12:39 (but I am just teasing)
12:42 ashimema darn
12:43 we don't even send content_type back from GetQueuedMessages yet ☹️
12:43 I didn't really want to change the signature of the whole thing.. grr
12:44 cait oh I see, we are in C4
12:44 * cait sends cookies
12:45 ashimema looks like I 'could' fairly easily just switch out GetQueuedMessages for Koha::Notice::Messages->search() I reckon
12:46 going to take the dog round the block and then look into that
12:51 got it
12:51 will send patch after walk
12:51 cait :)
12:52 ashimema sod it.. I'll throw the patch on now and write a test plan properly once back..
12:52 done
12:52 bug 30287
12:52 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Notices using HTML renders differently in notices.pl
12:58 ashimema I'm not 100% on the pre Vs html_line_break filter
12:59 Need to research a little deeper to be confident in that one
13:07 paulderscheid[m] ashimema is styling important? If not you could use a shadowDOM.
13:07 Inside it's boundaries the html can be invalid and due to the encapsulation still not break the light DOM.
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13:08 paulderscheid[m] s/it's/its/
13:27 ashimema The idea is to make it match the actual notice content the end user will receive as closely as possible
13:27 paulderscheid[m] Is the css not embedded?
13:27 ashimema Which were already failing on as we don't apply CSS etc inside the iframe
13:28 paulderscheid[m] It's possible to "inject" the css in the shadowDOM. It's a little dirty but it's less likely to break.
13:28 ashimema part of the problem is we're mega inconsistent with what we apply at notice send/display/print times
13:29 you're really talking about shadowDOM vs iFrames aren't you
13:29 right now I'm not considering taking out the iFrame.. I think that should be it's own bug 😜
13:29 paulderscheid[m] ashimema: Yes
13:30 You're right, this should be its own bug.
13:30 I think there are lots of places in koha where web components would be a much more elegant solution.
13:31 But I'm a little biased, just to be fair.
13:33 ashimema I agree
13:33 and would love to see that bug filed 😜
13:33 hint hint
13:34 paulderscheid[m] Haha, I'll add it to my list.
13:37 ashimema there's always too many things to do isn't there 🙂
13:38 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, I hope we can slowly migrate towards sticking more closely to the community version. Would be more fun and we'd be able to actually contribute.
13:38 But it's an uphill battle.
13:38 Not necessarily because of my ceo but rather historic decisions.
13:40 ashimema honestly.. it's taken us years to get where we are now at ptfs-e.. and we still have a few oddball installs with customisation per site
13:40 and we're still on our own branch.. usually just a few critical enhancements ahead of community.. a few backports that don't make sense in the feature stable versions but our customers "just can't wait"
13:40 but we're getting there
13:40 paulderscheid[m] I think you're doing great!
13:40 Just look at the stats :D
13:41 ashimema the key decision was when we decided that all code we write should have the community in mind.. so we always ask the customer questions before commiting to a development and work hard to understand how it's going to affect community up front
13:41 doesn't always work..
13:41 but having that mentality to think 'community first' does help
13:41 paulderscheid[m] That's as simple as it is insightful. Tough sell, though.
13:42 At least in the german market.
13:42 ashimema it used to be in the UK market too
13:42 😜
13:43 they all think they're unique here
13:43 but..
13:43 it's what lead to things like the ILL module and that's in use all over the place now
13:43 not perfect and in need of a version 2 we're working on
13:43 erm
13:43 also key
13:43 tit's amazing how often need to actually overlap in the end.. it's just finding out how
13:44 paulderscheid[m] You should really chat sometime w/ Roger :P
13:44 :D
13:46 ashimema hehe
13:46 happy to
13:46 we've chatted a few times over the years
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13:57 ashimema there isn't a NoticeCSS equivilent that allows you to just add inline css is there.. as apposed to having to host a file somewhere and point to that?
14:17 caroline_catlady I don't think so ashimema
14:17 ashimema shame
14:17 bug 30287 is nice 😜
14:17 caroline_catlady but I think maybe you can use the id in intranetusercss?
14:17 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Notices using HTML renders differently in notices.pl
14:18 caroline_catlady I don't think I've tried it for notices, but I know I did for quick labels
14:18 ashimema yeah
14:18 that would work
14:18 it's just not elegant 😜
14:18 cait back
14:20 re CSS and the notices: it needs to be embedded or linked to a publicly available one I guess to take any effect in the mail client?
14:21 ashimema we could easily enough serve it ourselves from a preference
14:21 but hey ho
14:21 caroline_catlady ah yes, I was thinking of the slips, not the ones sent my email.. sorry
14:21 Joubu What's happening with October releases?
14:21 cait not that I haven't been trying...
14:22 hm should scroll down lol
14:22 ashimema ?
14:22 cait talking to people about conributing their things to community right away... etc. :)
14:23 ashimema hehe
14:23 I've finished up all I can think of in bug 30287 now cait
14:23 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Notices using HTML renders differently in notices.pl
14:23 ashimema now revisiting bug 34704 to understand what's outstanding
14:23 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34704 normal, P5 - low, ---, matt.blenkinsop, Failed QA , Print templates are formatted incorrectly
14:24 cait sounds good, I'll try to get to it, but need to catch up now from the meeting
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15:36 caroline aude_c[m], yet another thing to discuss in the upcoming docs meeting https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]erge_requests/747 what do we want for this page?
15:41 h2 As a user, I look at the release notes and find them organized in a very helpful way. I think a link to the release notes and the Koha Newsletter may be all that's needed (so newbies find those)--the Koha Newsletter mentions helpful videos, blog posts, etc., and the Release Notes have thorough info.
15:43 caroline for my part, the release notes are not translated (unless I don't know about the translated version?) so they are useless to my clients
15:43 aude_c[m] At the last meeting davidnind explained a bit more what he intended with this page
15:44 caroline *most of my clients (I don't mean to imply all my clients are unilingual)
15:45 aude_c[m] As the Docs team, we need to keep in mind this page isn't the same as the release notes: it's the what's new in the manual from the latest Koha version, rather than "what's new in the latest Koha version" 😅
15:45 I've heard several people in favour of this page
15:46 I feel it will fall to the Documentation Manager to make sure new docs contributions are added to the page
15:46 So what goes in and what doesn't will always be a bit subjective
15:49 I guess that means I personally agree with caroline's comments on the merge request 😄
15:50 Being able to link to further information - like the resources in the Newsletter that h2 mentions - I think is another thing to consider for the manual
15:51 caroline I added the topic to the agenda
15:51 aude_c[m] But not right now, please! We have enough for the next few meetings 🙃
15:51 caroline it was empty, but feel free to postpone the topic!
15:51 aude_c[m] My last comment was in relation to my previous one, not yours!
15:52 caroline ok :)
15:55 aude_c[m] Also, if you merge my request (746) I will merge yours 😜
15:58 caroline I don't necessarily want it merged right away, I'd prefer to have the discussion with the larger docs team, but I will merge your, no problem :)
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16:00 aude_c[m] :D Ok, thank you
16:11 h2 I'm sorry that I didn't realize that the Release Notes weren't translated--gosh!  Then "What's New" in the Manual would be VERY important and helpful!
16:17 caroline It's ok! I realize not everyone needs everything in another language, even myself, unless I try to link to something to one of my clients and they say "I'm not that good in english"... oops!
16:19 h2 I think documentation in a first language is very important! My only experience with Koha in a second language is when I'm viewing, reading, etc., in German, and that usually makes my brain feel like it's doing gymnastics.:)
16:19 caroline it's like accessibility, unless you need it everyday, it's easy to forget to consider it
16:20 h2 Yes--and important to try to keep it in mind!
16:20 caroline (there was a big scandal two weeks ago in the (north american) knitting community about accessibility, that's why I'm thinking of this)
16:22 h2 Gosh--I'm part of the North American knitting community and I missed this--maybe I need to inform myself about it?
16:23 cait we ususally write German release notes for our customers - if you have a needs for some sports h2 :)
16:23 caroline It's the Wool & Folk fair? Apparently is was extremely unaccessible (not sure which type bc I wasn't there, but I'm thinking not enough space bc it was raining that weekend and probably everyone went inside)
16:24 https://www.pacificknitco.com/[…]tivals-and-beyond
16:25 I'm trying to apply these to kohacon, but will have to do more research as a lot of these don't really apply
16:27 h2 I would be interested in the German release notes, @cait!  And, thank you--that's a VERY good post about accessibility of all kinds.  Something our public areas are doing here, too, is scent-free for accessibility to people with respiratory conditions.
16:29 caroline that's good! not just respiratory conditions, I think a lot of people also have just a sensory sensitivity
16:30 h2 Today I've been looking at the Wiki, thinking about the role of the Wiki in relation to the Manual, and I've found this page helpful: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/OCLC_Connexion  I would like to make a page about how my library uses the OCLC Connexion Client because the Connexion Browser interface is being discontinued by OCLC & there will be people converting to the Client.  Maybe I could then contribute/update to this section in the One Manual
16:30 https://davidnind.gitlab.io/ko[…]rty_software.html
16:30 And, yes!!  A lot of people can have reactions to scents or even just particular scents!
16:40 cait I have seen that when I was in Sweden (don't use strong perfumes etc.)
16:40 there is also info on oclc connexion setup in the manual - definitely worth having it only in one place and correct :)
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16:46 h2 Yes--the Connexion info in the manual is from me.:)  In the manual the information is standard and general.  I would like to put on the Wiki all our settings as a museum library--a use case and example for how it can be done in a special library.  There is a lot of info, I think, for public and academic libraries out there, so maybe this will be helpful for little, weird libraries like mine.:)
16:53 reiveune bye
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17:01 aude_c[m] Sounds great h2 👍️
17:02 h2 Cool!  Thanks, <aude_c[m]>!
17:05 @aude_c ...?  (How does one "at" someone in here?)
17:05 huginn` h2: downloading the Perl source
17:05 caroline h2 generally, just writing the name is sufficient... at least with my client
17:05 aude_c[m] using @ is the right way to do it!
17:06 (it worked in both your comments)
17:06 h2 Cool!  Thank you!
17:06 Um...I don't know what "downloading the Perl source" means.  Can that be translated into Librarian?:)
17:06 oleonard The @ symbol is reserved for commands to the bots like huginn
17:06 caroline that's when you use @ with a word that is not a command I think
17:07 oleonard In IRC people are usually just mentioned by username
17:07 aude_c[m] Is it? I'm using Element and I have to use @ to mention people
17:08 oleonard IRC clients typically highlight messages that mention the user's nick
17:08 caroline maybe it's specific to that client... I use hexchat and I just type the name
17:08 oleonard aude_c[m]: I'm not sure what you mean by "I have to"
17:08 What behavior does it trigger?
17:09 paulderscheid[m] Isn't this mentioning you caroline?
17:09 Also using Element
17:09 caroline yes!
17:09 paulderscheid[m] It just doesn't highlight on your end, but it works!
17:09 :D
17:09 h2 I'm using https://webchat.oftc.net/?channels=koha and some things are in red, but not "h2."  Sometimes "==" is in red.
17:10 caroline I instructed my client to highlight other terms too (like french, translation, documentation, startmeeting) so I get a ping whenever my username or these words are mentionned
17:10 h2 Ooooh--neato!
17:10 oleonard caroline: "startmeeting" is a good one!
17:12 aude_c[m] oleonard: When I use the @ I get a nice list of existing usernames to pick from. And when I hit send the name is highlighted in the posted text.
17:12 But I am now learning I apparently don't "have to" do this :D
17:13 oleonard aude_c[m]: As long as you don't mind huginn` complaining every time! :)
17:13 paulderscheid[m] caroline: That's sweet, w/ element?
17:14 aude_c[m] Oh, I don't see huginn complaining! Do you when I @ you oleonard ?
17:14 paulderscheid[m] Ah no hexchat
17:14 caroline paulderscheid[m], I use hexchat, yes
17:14 oleonard @aude_c[m]: huginn` will respond with some nonsense
17:14 huginn` oleonard: I've exhausted my database of quotes
17:14 paulderscheid[m] That's a very nice feature
17:14 caroline it's not as nice looking as element, and I can't use new emojis, but it works well enough
17:15 aude_c[m] oleonard: I'm sorry! I didn't realise because I don't see it 😮
17:15 caroline it's very 90's XD
17:15 oleonard The "@" symbol is so common in other software these days that really huginn` should use a different command trigger
17:15 paulderscheid[m] I use iamb sometimes but Element is the most reliable one.
17:16 Contextual / would be good like /huginn
17:16 aude_c[m] [Sorry, time to finish here and go to the swimming pool... Thanks for an enlightening conversation :D Will catch up with the end of it tomorrow!]
17:31 h2 Oh, I just found this! https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Channel
17:32 caroline++
17:32 aude_c++
17:33 I didn't know huginn was a bot!:):):)
17:42 oleonard h2: and wahanui, who I notice is absent!
17:42 caroline yes, he's been on vacation for a while
17:42 it's?
17:44 h2 Oh, yes!  wahanui++  He is always so helpful, on so many different platforms!  As, well, y'all are!!!
17:45 oleonard++
17:46 I'm going to log off now and concentrate on making that wiki page.  After I brew more coffee.:)  Bye, y'all!  Thank you so much for all your help--I'm so glad y'all were hanging out here today!!!
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18:50 * cait waves
18:52 cait oleonard: attached a screenshot to bug 35262 if you are still around
18:52 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35262 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Improve OPAC self registration confirmation page
19:03 cait hi davidnind :)
19:04 oleonard cait: I don't see that. It's like the HTML in your example is broken somewhere
19:08 cait hm it's a normal master I believe
19:08 did you see the comment from davidnind?
19:08 I can check the source,
19:10 hm I have trouble to get to the source of this page in Chrome - form resubmission sth
19:11 so the block is id="registration-complete"
19:12 I don't see anything obvious
19:12 oleonard Okay, weird, I'm seeing it after a reset_all
19:12 cait I tested your HTML customizations in this database I think
19:12 let me heck
19:12 hm maybe already reset
19:14 would someone have time for a sign-off on bug 35263?
19:14 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35263 blocker, P5 - low, ---, pedro.amorim, Needs Signoff , Cannot update patron categories
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19:17 cait oleonard: cleaning up some old notes and doing a lot of testing - results ina lot of bug reports, thanks for taking them on :)
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19:32 cait is it possible we have a difference in the perltidy from the qa tools and the one in Koha? I pertidied a whole new file and it still complains about 3 lines...
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19:41 davidnind good morning cait!
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19:43 cait hello :)
20:10 oleonard++
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20:55 cait davidnind: did you start ktd with --selenium? new db?
20:55 latest master?
20:59 davidnind aah.. no... 8-) (didn't start with selenium....)
21:15 cait been there... done that.. still no t-shirt
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21:18 cait davidnind: would you mind having a look at bug 35261 too?
21:18 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update links for self registration avoiding "here"
21:18 cait mostly a string change, but we need to hurry a bit with these now :)
21:22 davidnind thanks cait - I didn't read the test plan properly... I've now added my sign-off
21:22 looking now...
21:33 sign-off added
21:35 cait thanks again :)
21:38 davidnind no problem! let me know if there are any others
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22:12 cait I can't believe it... no partial receives are not working again :(
22:12 this receive code will be my death
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23:59 davidnind PTFSEurope++

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