IRC log for #koha, 2023-09-06

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07:15 dcook_ I imagine I've overwhelmed everyone with Bugzilla reports and comments before they've even woken up heh
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07:17 Joubu I love to see bz activities when I am waking up!
07:19 matts_ I love the smell of BZ in the morning :)
07:20 dcook_ :3
07:20 ashimema lol
07:20 dcook_ I was planning on doing some other work the next 2 days, but maybe I can do some bugzilla tomorrow morning too...
07:20 Adarsh Hello, I am eager to build and deploy Koha at Azure Kubernetes Cluster for which I'm looking for instructions. Please kindly share.
07:21 dcook_ Need to leave the office now though O_O
07:21 ashimema I'm still on catch-up mode after vacation 😜
07:21 sooooo much bugmail to work through
07:21 dcook_ Adarsh: There's no instructions for that. You'd have to do a lot of that work yourself.
07:21 Adarsh: If you want some inspiration you can look at https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ocker/koha-docker
07:21 ashimema: Just burn it down and start over hehe
07:21 Hopefully I made some dents in some queues today...
07:22 Need to go and cook for my lady though. No rest for the wicked.
07:22 Ciao ciao folks
07:24 Joubu enjoy your evening, dcook_!
07:26 * cait1 waves good morning
07:36 Adarsh what should be good start point. https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ha-testing-docker or https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ocker/koha-docker ?
07:38 cait ashimema++
07:49 Adarsh: I can not tell you, but the purpose of koha-testing-docker is not production installations, but development
07:49 so maybe the later as pointed by dcook is better
07:56 NikolayGospodinov[m] Hello, I have a question? When i finished importing the new database in Koha and i run: sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f k7000, I get the following error: error retrieving biblio 777, 778... at /usr/shate/koha/bin/migrat​ion_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 69
08:12 s/migration_tools/migration\_tools/, s/rebuild_zebra/rebuild\_zebra/, s/69/691/
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08:50 cait maybe you have incorrect MARC in some records
08:50 or they are missing the biblionumber in the correct fields (it's neede by Zebra to connect the record in your database with the one in the index)
08:51 NikolayGospodinov[m]: ^
08:51 are you using MARC21 or UNIMARC?
09:01 NikolayGospodinov[m] MARC21?
09:01 * MARC21
09:08 cait ok
09:08 it's important because the field mappings are different for UNIMARC and MARC21
09:08 and that can cause issues with Zebra
10:24 oleonard Hi #koha
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11:36 cait MatthewBlenkinsop++
11:51 ashimema anyone else still having issue's getting ktd to come up todayt?
12:00 cait I last tried yesterday, it worked ok then with fresh images
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12:08 ashimema hmm
12:08 it's fresh images that killed mine yesterday afternoon
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12:18 Joubu ashimema: I pulled this morning and it's working
12:18 cait1 I also pulled yesterday - maybe a bit earlier than you did?
12:18 di you update your ktd repo too?
12:18 ashimema Grr
12:18 Ok
12:19 Joubu yeah, you need origin/master + fresh ktd images
12:19 ashimema My git and my docker are both freshly pulled
12:19 Still failung
12:19 One for after lunch
12:19 cait1 what is the error?
12:23 caroline_catlady cait++ #having *all* the answers ;)
12:24 cait1 that sounds really scary
12:24 cait caroline_catlady: the ML spree?
12:24 caroline_catlady yes!
12:25 cait I just feel bad if people don't get a reply and we had quite a few stuck with the ML problem
12:26 caroline_catlady what is/was the ML problem?
12:28 I often hesitate to answer ML questions because I'm not 1000% sure of my answer
12:32 cait they got into the archive, but were not sent for... i believe aout 2 weeks?
12:32 only for the Koha main mailing list
12:32 davidnind++ noticed and it was fixed
12:33 caroline_catlady davidnind++
12:35 we have two new interns for this semester (their first day is today!) so send easy bugs to SO my way and I'll have them look at it probably early next week
12:36 cait I think there are also some easy typo fixes available right now for patch writing, once they get there
12:36 Joubu caroline_catlady: koha-howto?
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12:37 caroline_catlady koha-howto? is that a command?
12:37 Joubu ask Éric
12:38 I told him to redirect newbies there, it should be the first thing for every new Koha dev
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12:38 Joubu with ktd - http://localhost:8081/cgi-bin/koha/how-to.pl
12:39 caroline_catlady ok let me start my ktd, back in 15 ;)
12:46 tcohen[m] ashimema: it would help to see the error logs
12:46 I tried in both ARM64 and AMD64 arch successfully
12:47 well, jenkins shows it works too
12:52 caroline_catlady can I close the terminal where I started ktd or I have to keep it always open?
12:52 ashimema stick a -d on caroline_catlady and that will daemonize it instead of running it in the foreground
12:53 caroline_catlady ooh that sounds evil, I love it
12:53 so `ktd up -d` ?
12:55 Joubu I like to have it open, in case a container crashes you have the logs
13:00 tcohen[m] I use ktd --logs
13:00 but yeah, I prefer the colors hehe
13:15 * ashimema sticks it in tmux in the background
13:16 tcohen[m] khall: would you take a look at 34683
13:16 khall 👍
13:18 tcohen[m] I fully agree!
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13:22 tcohen[m] is anyone able to run the meetings script?
13:22 cait to create the agenda?
13:22 not me (yet)
13:23 Joubu: ?
13:23 ashimema ooh, did I miss a meeting?
13:29 davidnind tcohen: worked for me just now for the next General IRC Meeting
13:30 * cait is tempted to send davidnind back to bed... but so happy to see him too :)
13:31 davidnind he he, I just woke up after falling asleep on the couch ... off to bed now 8-)
13:36 tcohen[m] I need to schedule a new dev meeting next wednesday
13:36 can you do that davidnind?
13:37 Joubu the dev meeting never happened
13:37 the script cannot guess when will be the next one ;)
13:38 I was not replying about your last request, tcohen[m].
13:39 I was checking the last dev meeting
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15:01 oleonard ktd failing for me today :(
15:02 Up-to-date ktd, pruned Docker, fresh pull... Still can't get it working
15:02 ashimema yes.!
15:02 I'm not imagining it!
15:02 sorry to hear your stuffed too oleonard
15:03 but when I said this this morning everyone told me I was imagining it 😜
15:07 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Relevant?" (8 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/25812
15:07 ashimema that's the error I've thrown at tcohen a couple of times
15:07 I've since sent him the whole log of a fresh startup
15:08 think he's been a tad busy since.. I've not heard back
15:09 magnuse around?
15:14 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] Thats an error with the new cypress upgrade - check your package.json to see what version of cypress you have
15:29 tcohen[m] What docker images are you pulling?
15:30 Show me a `docker ps` output when launching it
15:31 oleonard tcohen: What do you mean, when launching it?
15:32 tcohen[m] Yes
15:32 Launch it, and run docker ps in parallel
15:32 Jenkins is running those images fine, so we need to dig a bit more
15:39 ashimema my runs it all up.. again
15:39 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "docker ps --no-trunc" (4 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/25814
15:40 ashimema 6 layers memcached, 8 layers db and 35 layer of koha take a while to dowload
15:40 oleonard tcohen: That's what it says before koha-koha-1 exits, right after the cypress error
15:43 ashimema same pretty much
15:44 only difference for me is 'koha/koha-testing:master' instead of 'koha/koha-testing:master-bullseye'
15:45 tcohen[m] the error means your KTD image is shipping an old cypress version
15:45 which is weird
15:46 ashimema can we control where that's pulled from.. I'm assuming there's a pool of those images as apposed to single one somewhere.
15:46 tcohen[m] when we rebuild the images,  the latest Debian image is picked
15:46 so if that underlying image is built
15:46 rebuilt by debian, then a ktd
15:46 will need to fetch from scratch
15:47 Koha_Master* is running all images and green-y
15:47 besides some -cough cough- new cypress tests
15:47 ^^ Pedro Amorim, Joubu
15:48 running kids to school, will be back to debug in a frew
15:48 oleonard tcohen++
15:50 ashimema ?
15:50 PedroAmorim[m] tcohen: I've pushed a follow-up to 33480
15:51 that follow-up adds vendor aliases tests, but also fixes the currently failing tests on the master build
15:51 some intercepts were missing
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17:56 tcohen[m] did y'all make it work?
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18:51 ashimema make what work
18:53 davidnind KTD starting up
18:53 ashimema ah, no
18:53 all dead for me still
18:53 I went to make dinner
18:53 heading off again now.. that's another tomorrow problem
18:53 ☹️
18:53 have a good day davidnind
18:54 davidnind same to you!
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20:04 KevinFurst[m] When I run the barcode generator tool with code39 type, it doesn't generate the correct barcode. Our scanners wouldn't pickup the correct barcode and then when examining it closely with code 39 examples online and those on our older books, the format generated by the barcode tool in Koha is not code30. It doesn't have the same opening and closing bars that identifies it as code39. Are there any known issues with that or has it come up
20:04 before? (The tool page works fine and it quickly generates the barcode image).
20:09 My other issue is unrelated and deals with the autogenerated barcode when adding an item. In my autobarode setting, I have EAN-Incremental 13 Barcode selected. When creating a new item for a record, the system does autofill the barcode field however the formatting however it shows up in scientific number format rather than just... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]DWwPjYRdMasXrRZOB>)
20:14 caroline_catlady KevinFurst[m], I'm not sure how the incremental EAN 13 works, but the Incremental 1, 2, 3 one takes the largest barcode in the database and adds one. So If your barcodes are normally like 3000123456 and somewhere in your collection you have 3000000000123456, it will take that larger one as it's basis
20:14 KevinFurst[m] Ahh.. ok. I was wondering why there wasn't a field for starting value when switching to that.
20:15 And presumably others are using that without issue? Maybe I'll try that.
20:16 caroline_catlady A lot of my clients use incremental 1, 2, 3 with great success, the only hiccups are with new clients when we migrate their DB and they have weird long barcodes as above
20:18 KevinFurst[m] Hmm. ok. This library has an odd mix. There seem to be alphanumeric for anything they use pre- Follett Destiny and then 34517x000xxx for anything during the follett years. My librarians are getting antsy to get new books on the shelves so I'll need to get it working soon. I don't think they care what the number is (ie its format) just that it autofills and is unique.
20:20 caroline_catlady I understand
20:21 although I'm not exactly sure how you could do it without changing the old barcodes... sorry :(
20:21 KevinFurst[m] No worries, I'm going to try the incremental and see if that gives a better option for us.
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20:22 caroline_catlady as for the image generator, I think it was an external tool that was added into koha, so I don't know how much we can change it, but I would advise you write a bug report on bugzilla
20:22 In the mean time, you can use the label creator which works fine afaik
20:24 KevinFurst[m] Will do.
20:45 jalway KevinFurst[m]: Assuming they don't care what the format is, "generated in the form <branchcode>yymm0001" or "
20:45 generated in the form <year>-0001, <year>-0002" may be good options to take to your Librarians.
20:45 For reference: https://koha-community.org/man[…].html#autobarcode
21:07 davidnind tcohen: Agenda for the next development created, and added to the calendar https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]13_September_2023
21:10 KevinFurst[m] jalway: The incremental 1,2,3 was still giving me the e scientific notation but the year as you suggested works, so I'm going to leave it on that setting.
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