IRC log for #koha, 2023-08-01

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02:57 MichaelAngeloAquino[m] hi, seeking help re patron zip upload error on koha 22.11
04:19 thomas63[m] hi there... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]acmnVwEtZHsHRlIEg>)
04:56 PriyanshuSoni[m] Good morning guys...
04:56 http://symbiosis-koha.informindia.co.in/
04:56 I want to make this type of crousel in my OPAC version. Please help me with the step to follow and the necessary coding or plugin files.
05:08 TriveniChandriki[m] <PriyanshuSoni[m]> "Good morning guys......" <- > <@priyanshu10230:matrix.org> Good morning guys...... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]dJzmJDkyBxSZtZtVJ>)
05:08 Please check.
05:09 If u need any help on this. Let me know. U can give access
05:37 PriyanshuSoni[m] <TriveniChandriki[m]> "> <@priyanshu10230:matrix.org..." <- Thanks you so much. Its working now.
06:25 Joubu paulderscheid[m]: dev container's extension is not available in codium :-/
06:25 https://github.com/microsoft/v[…]lease/issues/1925
06:25 https://code.visualstudio.com/[…]nents-open-source
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06:29 reiveune hello
06:29 wahanui hola, reiveune
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08:14 cait good morning #koha
08:30 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
08:31 Joubu: https://github.com/VSCodium/vs[…]sions-marketplace
08:31 You can add all extensions by adding the marketplace AFAIK
08:32 On Arch there's even an AUR package (which you can theoretically also use) https://aur.archlinux.org/pack[…]m-bin-marketplace
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08:50 paulderscheid[m] Just tried it w/ VSCodium, definitely works
11:05 tcohen[m] Are you on arch?
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11:20 marcelr o/
11:20 tcohen[m] \o
11:21 Is anyone available to work on CSRF bugs today?
11:22 khall hasn't been able to write the small docs for that, but I think we can move forward regardless
11:22 dcook explained what needs to be done on the umbrella bug
11:25 marcelr i wont tcohen
11:26 we could make some kind of division?
11:26 cait I was hoping for the docs
11:26 to help
11:26 marcelr module wise of whatever
11:26 or
11:27 cait I am out for today, maybe I can make time tomorrow, for sure on Friday
11:27 a tiny tutorial or 2 best practice for the cases you mentioned would be helpful
11:28 marcelr lets prevent duplication of work just like the scheduler bug; just wasted time
11:28 cait always happy about deduplication
11:28 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] I also can't do today but could do some later in the week
11:28 cait what do you suggest? we can not put it on the wiki etc. can we?
11:29 marcelr we could put it on a security omnibus ? if not already there
11:29 cait bugzilla is not so great for managing lists etc.
11:29 yeah an omnibus
11:29 and file first, start working on it later
11:29 file, claim, patch
11:29 marcelr right
11:30 cait and maybe some easy to search for naming - witht he name of the files or so?
11:30 not sure how granular we should go, haven't seen the test yet
11:31 tcohen[m] I'd say a bug per area
11:32 cait do we use the framework bug as the omnibus?
11:32 it looks like some bugs area already linked there: bug 30524
11:32 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30524 is not accessible.
11:33 cait I was really hoping for the tutorial/notes- maybe someone could important the best to read comments?
11:43 tcohen[m] Kyle had personal stuff to deal with and hasn't showed up this week
11:43 It is what it is
11:44 I think dcook explained it in a comment
12:04 paulderscheid[m] Hi tcohen, yeah got an Arch box lurking
12:04 For personal stuff mostly
12:06 cait it's not waht I meant
12:06 I am sure there is a reason
12:07 the problem is what is clear to you all, is not always to me, and finding the right comment in 66 is also not easy
12:07 that's why I asked for someone to highlight the important bits at least
12:16 tcohen[m] I get it, cait
12:16 But if the people involved don't act I'm not sure there's something I can do
12:17 cait it sounded like you knew where the important comment was, I'll wait for the first patches to drop
12:18 tcohen[m] https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=30524#c66
12:18 huginn 04Bug 30524: is not accessible.
12:21 tcohen[m] I don't know what to say cait
12:21 maybe marcelr, Joubu, ashimema or dcook can enlight us?
12:22 cait ashimema is gone for 2 weeks
12:22 tcohen[m] right
12:23 marcelr if tcohen doesnt know, i certainly dont
12:23 Joubu I won' have time for that in the next month
12:23 cait right and i'd like to help and don't know how yet. great.
12:23 marcelr but kyle made a change
12:23 too
12:23 he removed the token from Auth
12:23 Joubu This has started 4 years ago, not sure why it's now urgent...
12:23 tcohen[m] and he's not around
12:24 marcelr this is really urgent Joubu
12:24 Joubu so it was 4 years ago
12:24 marcelr we should have fixed this 4 years ago
12:24 Joubu yes, listen to me :D
12:24 marcelr thats hard
12:24 tcohen[m] you are complaining
12:25 Joubu just wondering why it's more urgent now than before
12:25 marcelr due to the number of security reports
12:25 wake up call
12:25 Joubu because we got 2 more reports
12:26 tcohen[m] I guess it is because someone found it could be use for remote code execution?
12:27 and then we started thinking there could be other places, and better resurrect that work
12:27 and fix it for good
12:27 marcelr we should just get this fixed for 23.11
12:28 cait I think ashimema also said they get a lot of pressure to fix it
12:28 I'd also feel better having it fixed because we might get in the focus more and more
12:32 marcelr cait: you need to add a statement to generate token in the template (calling new method from Kyle) and you need to check the token in the controller script
12:32 you will find examples of that in the scripts that already fixed some places
12:33 Joubu we can fix the urgent ones, but it seems very hard to fix all csrf in Koha in August, during holidays, when not many of us are around
12:33 marcelr sure, but we could divide the work and then we do not wait for each other
12:33 and certainly not for one special day
12:33 cait maybe focus on opac first if that#s not done yet?
12:33 tcohen[m] what if
12:34 cait then circ... move from most used to the least used
12:34 Joubu opac is not that important
12:34 tcohen[m] each of us runs the tests
12:34 picks a Koha module
12:34 files a bug,
12:34 and works on i
12:34 t
12:34 cait marcelr: that's why I said I'll wait for the first patches - so i can see how it's done
12:34 tcohen[m] I will work on one today
12:34 cait we alsready said that we'd use the frmework one as omnibus
12:34 marcelr tcohen[m]++
12:34 tcohen[m] hopefully I do it right, and we can use it
12:34 cait so make sure you link to tit
12:35 to it...
12:35 marcelr all eyes are on tcohen
12:35 cait and there are already some bugs for different modules it looks like
12:35 marcelr we need to coordinate via the omnibus
12:35 tcohen[m] one problem we have
12:35 is that the stable releases are delayed
12:36 marcelr Koha never delays?
12:36 cait I think it's not just the summer, we need more hands/minds/keyboards whatever
12:36 tcohen[m] lucas expected to have better internet while on trip
12:41 paulderscheid[m] Quick question, does the instance plack.psgi get populated from /etc/koha/plack.psgi when creating new instances?
12:42 cait a series of non-ideal events
12:42 ... and I am stuck at an event related bug in JS... *sigh*
12:42 tcohen[m] heh
12:42 on the bright side, cait. I'm looking at the things you pointed yesterday
12:43 cait thank you
12:43 I can't test today, but I'Ll try to do my best to comment and test tomorrow
12:47 tcohen[m] I hope to submit today
12:47 but I already promised to work on CSRF heh
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14:27 tcohen[m] paulderscheid: I just noticed your question, answer is ye
14:27 s
14:27 paulderscheid[m] Thanks tcohen
14:27 Was suspecting that
14:28 tcohen[m] it is done by this script
14:28 https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]pe=heads#L160-184
14:30 paulderscheid[m] Thanks
14:38 tcohen[m] have you got somewhere with the cities Vue stuff?
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15:13 paulderscheid[m] Not really, was too occupied w/ work but it's still on my list
15:13 And since I have more free time now I might finally be able to do it
15:15 reiveune bye
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15:21 h2h2 Hello!
15:24 cait hi h2h2 :)
15:24 h2h2 Hi cait!!:):)
15:25 cait how are you doing?
15:25 thx for testing the preservation module - big test plan and all
15:33 h2h2 I'm well, thank you!  How are you doing?  It was fun testing the preservation module--it's way more complex than we would need, but I have enough of a pres workflow to understand it's awesomeness!  I'm excited about it!
15:33 I think it could be adapted to other workflows, too.
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17:03 KarinaEsterDiez[m] hola! como estan, me uni, para hacer una consulta. trabajo en Argentina en una dependecia del estado, biblioteca publica y no podemos buscar, ni por nro. de inventario, ni por autor ni materia ni nada.  zebra no estaria funcionando. Yo solo soy una de las bibiotecarias no parametrice el koha que tenemos en nuestro espacio, pero quisieramos saber si alguna vez les paso algo similar y como pudieron resolverlo. Porque no tenemos a quien
17:03 consultar y no es un problema o error que lo haya encontrado en distintos foros sobre el tema. Muchas Gracias, desde ya por leerme! Karina desde Argentina.
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17:05 tcohen[m] Puedo ayudarte
17:06 Escribirme a tomascohen@theke.io y hacemos una llamada
17:06 O más tarde por acá que estoy en reunión
17:07 KarinaEsterDiez[m] hola! te escribo! muchas gracias y coordinamos. muy muy amable!
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17:28 KarinaEsterDiez[m] saludos a todos !!!
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19:19 Kolvir I am trying despertly to format spine labels. Ideally, with the quick spine label, but the label creator or bywater's plugin would be fine. What I need is the a call number like '235.51 Har' to print on three lines split like '235' '.51' 'Har'. I can not get the regex figured out and have been hacking at it all day.
19:22 I've seen a couple examples, but i'm getting something wrong. At bywater's site: https://bywatersolutions.com/e[…]in-in-koha-part-2 , the code near the end of the page doesn't work, and I don't have the knowledge to fix it.
19:22 caroline Kolvir, you are using the splitting rules in classification sources?
19:26 Kolvir, like this? https://snipboard.io/nioSze.jpg
19:26 Kolvir I've tried that, but am having a hard time getting it to work with my zebra printer.
19:30 I can print sucessfully from the plugin to it, but just not how I want.
19:31 caroline I don't know the plugin, so I can't help with that... but I think there might be a bug with the quick label tool...
19:31 bug 28691
19:31 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Quick spine label should split the same way the label creator does / use splitting rules
19:34 caroline You can contact bywater directly for help with the plugin, i'm sure they'll be happy to help... as for Koha itself, the splitting rules seem to only be used with the regular label creator. This can be used with a printer that prints one label at a time, but it's a lot of steps (create a batch, export the batch, etc.)
19:35 Kolvir I'd love to have the quickspine work but it has been very difficult to get it formated for my label printer.
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19:39 caroline It's not ideal, but you can click on 'Edit this label' and manually add a line break before the period
19:40 It could be a temporary solution until bug28691 is fixed
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19:55 Kolvir I can't figure out how to swetup the quick spine label to work with my label printer. Is there a guideline somewhere?
19:59 caroline Not that I can find... what is not working?
19:59 Kolvir I just get a blank.
20:00 caroline You see it on the screen but it prints blank?
20:01 Kolvir In the print popup it looks like there is just part of a header and fotter, no call number
20:01 footer
20:02 caroline did you deactivate the plugin and any css or js, just to make sure it's not hidden by something?
20:02 Also which version are you working on?
20:02 Kolvir saved it to a file and there isn't a call number at all.
20:03 23.05.01
20:03 not that I am aware of. are there settings I can check?
20:04 caroline Check the system preference SpineLabelFormat to make sure it contains itemcallnumber
20:04 It should by default, but you never know...
20:04 Kolvir yep. <itemcallnumber>
20:05 caroline and your item has something in itemcallnumber? you can check in the database (select itemcallnumber from items where barcode = ''; ) or using reports
20:06 Kolvir where can I run sql commands at on it?
20:06 in Koha or from the terminal
20:07 caroline You can use reports if you don't have access to the database. Reports > Create from SQL
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20:08 Kolvir I'm the admin, Lord help us, but the system isn't in production yet, still cataloging.
20:09 caroline lol! I'm not sure how to access the db from the terminal in a "normal' installation... mine has a bunch of aliases, which makes my life easier but it means I can't really help on that front
20:10 Kolvir it has the call number from in the report
20:11 caroline ok... :/ It's good, but I was kind of hoping it was not there lol
20:11 Kolvir me too
20:13 caroline cait around? maybe you've seen this problem before?
20:16 Kolvir Separate question? Is there a way to add the first three letters of the author's last name to the call number, or concatenate it from the author field and add a new MARC field for it? Or a suggestion on the best way to handle it? I am getting MARC data from open sources and am running it through some programs and could do it that way, but wondered what the best practice is. Add it to the call number, or create a new field for it.
20:16 caroline it's a bit late now, but maybe check back tomorrow morning (if you're in north/south america), usually we have a lot of people from europe around, maybe one of them will be able to help
20:17 Kolvir Do you know where the spine label pulls the printer info from? from the built in label tool?
20:17 ok, thanks for the help. As I've said before, the Koha community is great.
20:17 caroline hm... I've never thought about adding the letters automatically... I know you can add an entire field, but I'm not sure you can add part of a field
20:18 On my system, it opens the regular browser printer window thing
20:18 Kolvir is it a bad idea to create some 9xx field for the author's first 3?
20:19 caroline h2h2 around?
20:19 Kolvir I'm a volunteer at a church library, not a librarian, and MARC was completely new for me.
20:19 caroline h2h2 is my reference for cataloging :)
20:20 Kolvir, there is a group meeting for cataloguing things on Thursday (headed by h2h2), you could ask there
20:21 Cataloging special interest group here https://koha-us.org/calendar/
20:21 Usually they have really good ideas and insights
20:21 Kolvir Thank you. So much in my head at the moment, forgot about the other groups and lists.
20:22 caroline there is a lot of information scattered a bit everywhere
20:22 Kolvir thanks for posting that to bugzilla.
20:23 caroline Hopefully, it will help move it along...
20:24 Kolvir thank you for the help, I have to run out of town, I'll try and get on in the morning and as about the printer. I'm UTC-5.
20:24 caroline good luck!
20:41 h2h2 Oh!  Sorry I missed Kolvir!!  Thank you for mentioning the Cataloging SIG--I hope Kolvir comes!  I also got CCd on Bug 28691--I'd love to try to test that, but am not sure about the regex, etc.--I'll take a look at it tomorrow.
20:41 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Quick spine label should split the same way the label creator does / use splitting rules
20:43 h2h2 Libraries that I know of that add something like the first three letters of the author's name just type it in at the end of the call number--humans do it because of titles that lack an author, adaptations, etc.
20:43 caroline h2h2, just copy-paste the regex, no thinking required! :P
20:44 h2h2 But I'm sure libraries that actually do such a thing would have better ideas, insights, etc.!
20:44 caroline yes, that's why I think the SIG is a great place to ask that kind of question
20:46 h2h2 Also, many libraries use an 099 field for local call number info--that might be a good field to use, if Kolvir wants to put in some free text info like this.
20:46 caroline Where I used to work we used Cutter-Sandborn and there was an online tool to "calculate" the Cutter, but like you said, it was done manually. If there was no author, it was the title I think
20:47 It wasn't this tool, but something similar http://cutternumber.com/
20:49 h2h2 Ah--thanks for mentioning that tool--it looks great!!  And thank you, too, for letting me know that just copy/paste with the regex is OK--I'll try testing the bug tomorrow!  FUN!!!
20:51 I also really want this bug to move along--I'd love to figure out how to use it in our setting, too!!
20:51 caroline cait just commented that you can tweak it with JQuery...
20:52 I'm not good enough with JQuery to do it though
20:58 h2h2 I saw that--I've seen JQuery and been exposed to a lot of it, but I've had some regex instruction so it's less foreign to me!:)  Have to run, now--see y'all next time!!  Bye!
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20:58 caroline good night!
23:31 dcook Looks like I missed all the fun while I was sleeping

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