IRC log for #koha, 2023-06-20

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03:03 dcook Only a few hours to wait to share cool news haha
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04:57 TriveniChandriki[m] Good morning all
04:58 Can we use koha notification - WhatsApp messaging instead of SMS service
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05:34 cait @seen Frido
05:34 huginn cait: I have not seen Frido.
05:34 cait @seen fridolin
05:34 huginn cait: fridolin was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 17 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <fridolin> super green ;)
05:34 * dcook_ waves to cait
05:34 cait @later tell fridolin please push bug 33966 - breaks reporting for all non-english users
05:34 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
05:34 cait hi dcook
05:34 wahanui hi dcook are you around?
05:39 cait dcook: any opinion on the datatype for bug 34029? I'd really like to see it moving, it breaks imports of valid data
05:39 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34029 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Import breaks when data exceeds size of mapped database columns
05:40 dcook cait: I haven't thought about it enough to get a good opinion yet :/
05:40 The only sticking point in my head might be in terms of preallocation of bytes based on data type
05:40 But it might not be an issue
05:41 cait I am totally not an expert there - we did the move to longtext for lccn, so I copied that mostly
05:42 dcook Another thing to take into account could be indexing on different data types
05:42 And I think overall text might take up more space
05:42 cait I just know varchar(255) won't do anymore, especially with RDA
05:42 dcook Yeah fair enough
05:42 cait 264 is repeatable and it can get to be a lot of data
05:43 we also had problems with illus/pages with manuscripts, where things often are very descrpitive
05:43 dcook At some point, we might want to rethink some of the relational columns anyway
05:45 I do have database schema on the brain atm thanks to bug 34064
05:45 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34064 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Compare kohastructure.sql against current database using database audit script
05:45 dcook Hoping that is a bit of a game changer...
05:46 But yeah with bug 34029... not sure yet.
05:46 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34029 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Import breaks when data exceeds size of mapped database columns
05:48 dcook Actually at a glance the index thing isn't a problem since we're already only indexing the first 191 characters of publishercode anyway
05:48 cait seems an odd choice with varchar 255, but maybe it was incresased sometime already
05:49 dcook the indexing thing?
05:49 It had to do with the utf8mb4 change
05:49 cait ah
05:50 dcook Can't remember how 191 got picked specifically, but has to do with a bytes vs characters thing
05:50 It's really only a problem for unique indexes I think
05:51 I've had TEXT data types for URL fields, and I wanted to use unique indexes but couldn't in the end because of the truncation needed
05:51 But for a regular index.. it should be fine
05:51 And publishercode is the only indexed field on that bug
05:53 cait that's good I guess?
05:55 dcook Could be a bit of a ticking time bomb but good enough for now..
06:16 Man that database audit script I did is wild. I have so many differences... although some of them aren't that significant but still they represent a discrepancy
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06:21 fridolin salut
06:21 dcook hola frido
06:22 cait hi frido
06:22 left you a note about bug 33966 - just came up on the mailing list
06:22 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33966 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to master , "Update and run SQL" for non-English templates
06:22 * fridolin waves
06:22 fridolin ok i will look at it asap
06:23 cait thx!
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06:55 ashimema morning
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07:03 magnuse kia ora ashimema
07:21 cait too many caits
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07:58 ashimema All the cait
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08:06 klasalle[m] Hello! Very very new to Koha and was wondering if someone could tell me how the data is hosted. I need to be able to be able to have a coherent conversation with the data protection office about Koha and GDPR to move forward, so any help would be great
08:13 ashimema Do you have a support company you're using klasalle?
08:14 Koha has lots of options when it comes to GDPR.. some clientside, some serverside.
08:14 klasalle[m] not currently. I've looked at some but haven't decided on one or if we should get one. Probably want one
08:15 ashimema I see, so self hosted?
08:16 klasalle[m] We'd like to if possible. We're a charity and hope to save money on it if we can
08:16 ashimema the data will all be in the database and depending on the settings you set you can add more, keep existing, anonymize or entirely discard various parts of it at various times.
08:16 there's lots of friendly folk in here that would happily help I'm sure
08:17 klasalle[m] there seems to be a lot of community support which is really nice
08:17 I just know the first question I'll be asked is where is the user data stored, cloud/servers, and if I can't answer it we cant use it
08:18 ashimema https://koha-community.org/man[…]nces.html#privacy
08:18 that's a good start for the clientside settings around GDPR
08:18 well that entirely depends on where you decide to host it
08:19 you can use a local system easily enough.. it'll need a computer turned on all the time so act as the server.. you can run it on pretty low specs really.
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08:19 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] o/
08:20 klasalle[m] ashimema: I see! okay that makes more sense. Thank you for that.
08:20 ashimema or, there are lots of reputable hosting providers out there.. for our clients the main requirement is that it's in the same country
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08:22 ashimema a small debian server is the best option.. for highest security you'd want to keep it in house and prevent firewall it from the outside world... alternatively, good hosting companies will generally come fairly secure by default.
08:23 where are you based?  There are various regulations you can look for in different countries.. like in the UK we have ISO27009 and CyberEssentials certifications that can be used to judge the strength of a companies security
08:24 klasalle[m] ashimema: We're in Ireland. I can ask the IT guy, he'd probably be better suited helping with that
08:24 ashimema 🙂
08:24 Interleaf is a partner of ours (we're PTFS Europe).. just in case you do decide to go the supported route
08:24 klasalle[m] Not to say I'm just the librarian,  but it sounds officially over my head😂
08:25 ashimema https://www.interleaf.ie
08:25 klasalle[m] I know interleaf! my sister in law used to work there. I was looking at PTFS actually
08:25 ashimema I imagine they do some good options for charities
08:25 ah, cool
08:27 klasalle[m] You've been ridiculously helpful. Was feeling overwhelmed , but I officially have a path to get things sorted.
08:27 ashimema 🙂
08:27 glad I could help
08:30 klasalle[m] ashimema: Thank you 🥰
08:39 cait1 ashimema++ :)
08:45 ashimema cait
08:45 cait1
08:45 or magnuse
08:45 bug 24239
08:45 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs documenting , Let the ILL module set ad hoc hard due dates
08:46 ashimema where can you actually set the due date in ILL
08:46 I don't see any UI changes at all..
08:46 is it assuming the backend does that all the time?
08:46 cait1 it#s a backend thing
08:46 and a database column
08:46 when the database column for due date is set, the circulation will use it
08:47 ashimema OK.. so it's entirely backend dependant
08:47 I see
08:47 thanks
08:47 cait1 well, the "how it gets set" is, the way from there is not
08:47 ashimema shame FreeForm wasn't updated
08:48 cait1 we don't use the circulation from the ILL module - we do a "received" step in the ILL module, the due date is entered there and the hold we placed set to waiting
08:48 so they can later check it out normaly at the circ desk when the patron comes to pick it up
08:49 it would be a good idea to update freeform
08:49 where does it live?
08:49 I could make an issue
08:49 Joubu https://github.com/PTFS-Europe[…]l-freeform/issues
08:49 cait1 hm shoudl we move that to Koha-community repos maybe?
08:50 just a thought, if it's the reference one
08:50 not sure if free form has a step for when the item arrives
08:50 Joubu yes, it should be part of ktd as well, I think we discussed that recently
08:50 PedroAmorim[m] FreeForm does not support it
08:51 but the test plan mentions FreeForm
08:51 cait1 yes, but only to create a request
08:51 then the due date is set with SQL
08:51 the key is "has due date been set int he db"
08:52 PedroAmorim[m]: so an issue woudl not make sense then I guess?
08:52 filing one I mean
08:52 ashimema yup
08:53 PedroAmorim[m] yeah, I've only now reading the test plan more attentively
08:53 ashimema no.
08:53 not the ptfs repos
08:53 there's a version in koha repos on gitlab
08:53 * cait1 is confused now
08:53 ashimema that's the definitive
08:54 cait1 all the documentation has the ptfs links https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ILL_backends
08:54 ashimema ho
08:54 it's koha-ill-koha I was thinking of
08:54 I thought FreeForm has also moved to gitlab
08:54 my mistake
08:54 cait1 i've never instaleld koha-to-koha tbh
08:54 so not sure if it woudl fit in there
08:55 ashimema https://gitlab.com/koha-community/plugins
08:55 I can migrate it to koha repo's if people are happy for me to
08:55 I think the FreeForm one should be core
08:56 cait1 moving to core would be nice, would also allow us to fix some minor glitches
08:56 ashimema Pedro has lots of fun things to do with ILL this cycle 🙂
08:57 hopefully we'll have a much cleaner more modern set of options soon
08:57 cait1 btw PedroAmorim[m] - read your PMs
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11:26 cait1 @quote random
11:26 huginn cait1: Quote #224: "jcamins: QueryParser! The all-singing, all-dancing, all-parsing, and all-finding new query parser for the search rewrite!" (added by druthb at 05:13 PM, December 17, 2012)
11:28 ashimema LOL
11:32 cait1 @quote random
11:32 huginn cait1: Quote #235: "libsysguy: I feel like working on koha is like cooking at the fire station. First one to complain is the next one to cook." (added by wizzyrea at 07:55 PM, March 07, 2013)
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12:32 cait1 @quote random
12:32 huginn cait1: Quote #283: "<ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P" (added by mtompset at 01:29 AM, November 01, 2013)
12:32 cait too quiet around here
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12:39 marcelr o/
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12:45 marcelr hey Zwolle ?
12:47 artez_zwolle[m] Hello
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14:20 cait oh, there are people
14:27 * cait waves
14:28 Joubu hi cait
14:29 cait hi Joubu :) just saying hi so I don't feel so lonely
14:29 ?
14:32 marcelr o/
14:38 Joubu hi again cait! hi marcelr!
14:38 :D
14:39 cait hello
14:39 wahanui bidet, cait
15:06 reiveune bye
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15:48 ashimema is it just me.. or do we seem to lookup the user in auth.pm an obscene amount of times..
15:49 could we not just set it earlier in the script and share that object instead of refetching so many times?
16:02 magnuse ashimema: sounds like a good idea
16:02 gah, my worker-output.log is filling up with tons of this: [2023/06/20 17:59:33] [WARN] Frame not processed - malformed JSON string, neither tag, array, object, number, string or atom, at character offset 0 (before "You must log in usin...") at /usr/share/koha/bin/background_jobs_worker.pl line 115.
16:03 i have a hunch i looked at it earlier, but can't remember what i figured out...
16:05 i thought maybe bug 32573 but that is fixed in 22.11.03, and this is 22.11.04
16:05 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32573 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to oldoldstable , background_jobs_worker.pl should ACK a message before it forks and runs the job
16:15 magnuse when i try to view the background jobs in the staff client i get an error and this in plack-api-error.log: [2023/06/20 18:13:48] [WARN] OpenAPI >>> GET api/v1/jobs [{"message":"Expected object - got null.","path":"\/body\/0\/co​ntext"},{"message":"Expected object - got null.","path":"\/body\/1\/co​ntext"},{"message":"Expected object - got null.","path":"\/body\/2\/context"},...
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16:32 cait which version?
16:32 wahanui rumour has it which version is thiis
16:32 cait I think I had filed that and it was fixed
16:33 magnuse looks like my $frame = $conn->receive_frame; my $body = $frame->body; is returning the string 'You must log in using CONNECT first'
16:33 cait bug 32745
16:33 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32745 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to stable , Jobs view breaks when there are jobs with context IS NULL
16:33 magnuse 22.11.04
16:33 cait 22.11.06 patched
16:34 have to run - cya tomorrow!
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16:34 magnuse cait++
16:38 that fixed the problem of viewing the jobs in the staff client, but not the logs filling with errors
16:50 oops, 500 error from https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha-community/Koha
17:21 bug 34070
17:21 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34070 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , background_jobs_worker.pl fills logs when not connecting
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23:18 dcook @later tell ashimema I'd have to look again but looking up the user many times in Auth.pm sounds familiar...
23:18 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
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