IRC log for #koha, 2023-06-01

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04:23 RafaelFernandes[m] Hi
05:45 Joubu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
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06:31 reiveune hello
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06:38 marcelr hi #koha
06:38 tcohen++ # release time
06:39 fridolin tcohen++ what a joy to see v23.05.00 :D
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08:06 cait good morning #koha
08:07 marcelr hi cait
08:13 cait day after release... how does everyone feel?
08:17 * fridolin warming up for RMaint
08:17 fridolin i need to recreate a fresh KTD :)
08:17 and check credencials
08:19 Joubu: Bug 22802 comment 10, wrong bug maybe
08:19 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22802 blocker, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, When ordering from a staged file, if funds are populated per item order level fund should not be required
08:32 Joubu nope, correct bug
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09:31 marcelr Joubu: would you include the perltidy thing in qa tools ?
09:31 somehow i dont like to fail qa just for spaces and so ?
09:40 Joubu https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]merge_requests/50
09:41 and https://gitlab.com/joubu/qa-te[…]ts/check-tidiness
09:41 and especifically "Check tidiness - consider failure as warning" I have implemented less than 20 min ago :D
09:41 marcelr: we need to teach people to tidy their code
09:42 it's fine for code submitted prior to a possible decision
09:42 jajm Joubu: "The file must be as much tidy after (ARRAY(0x555d38534da8)) than before (ARRAY(0x555d339791a0))" :D
09:42 Joubu but then we will opt for a perltidyrc config people will have to adjust their editor
09:42 jajm: with or without "prevent the tests to explode".
09:42 ?
09:43 jajm Joubu: with
09:43 marcelr will have a look, Joubu; thx
09:44 Joubu erk I forgot to add a file to the commit!
09:44 306     return $full_buf->[0];
09:44 in QohA/File/Perl.pm
09:44 adjusting the commit
09:44 marcelr fix it !
09:45 Joubu jajm: refetch!
09:45 marcelr @later tell khall could you comment on bug 33878 ?
09:45 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
09:47 jajm Joubu: no more warn message, i need to find another commit
09:48 Joubu: it's ok now, thanks
09:49 but i find the message confusing "The file must be as much tidy after (2) than before (1)"
09:49 Joubu feel free to adjust
09:49 it's a POC for now
09:49 still more to do
09:50 * replace xt/perltidyrc with .perltidyrc in the command
09:50 * fix the qa-test-tools test (how do we locate the good .perltidyrc from Koha? Do we want that?)
09:50 * empty lines are caught and warning is raised when it shouldn't
09:52 jajm suggestion: "The file is less tidy than before (bad/messy lines before: 1, now: 2)"
09:54 Joubu done, thanks
09:55 nugged Joubu cait ashimema: what do you think about that - https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=33371#c5
09:55 huginn 04Bug 33371: normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to master , Add 'koha-common.service' systemd service
09:55 nugged it might affect the release
09:55 at least I patched my productions
09:57 Joubu absolutely no idea!
10:00 cait not quite my area of expertise either :(
10:01 mtj hi folks
10:02 nugged: it seems like a good idea :)
10:04 let me test the reboot
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10:51 nugged mtj: 🙏
11:21 tcohen hola #koha o/
11:23 mtj: can you spin up a -1 package?
11:24 mtj hi tcohen, yep, i just poking this systemd thing ^
11:24 tcohen exqctly
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11:29 marcelr o/
11:45 tcohen bbiab
12:14 marcelr @later tell oleonard added followup on 33608
12:14 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
12:14 oleonard 👍🏻
12:19 Joubu tcohen: see https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/117
12:23 tcohen: installer/data/mysql/db_revs/221200026.pl
12:23 it must be *unless* fk exists!
12:24 there is also a typo in the description endopoint
12:32 marcelr thx oleonard++
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12:47 * khall_ waves
12:53 oleonard Hi khall_
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12:56 mtj hi tcohen, nugged, i tested the systemd patch, and it seems to work well
12:57 i added a follow-up patch to bug 33371
12:57 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33371 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Add 'koha-common.service' systemd service
13:13 tcohen Joubu: there seems to be only one difference
13:13 the column comments are...
13:13 nugged but before the patch the issue is there, right?
13:14 this to say - it means release will ruin reboots for those who upgrade so this is "blocker/critical" patch?
13:25 mtj nugged: yes and yes
13:26 nugged mtj: thanks!
13:26 tcohen: ALARM! ALARM!!! :)... 🤷‍♂️
13:27 mtj tcohen: we can either remove the *.service file - or add the follow-up patch
13:28 we could revert, and plan to re-add file in next release, after further testing
13:28 marcelr it fits with the Disaster release name :)
13:29 mtj 23.05 titanic
13:29 marcelr great
13:30 mtj lets no go there team :)
13:30 revert might be the safer option?
13:37 ill build a 23.05 pkg now
13:40 nugged Did we manage to slip into that tiny sliver of time before we presented the .deb to the world?
13:43 cait we are not naming it Titanic!
13:53 marcelr ah cait
13:53 kate :)
13:56 for the fans of Auth.pm bug 33879
13:56 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33879 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Check_cookie_auth overwrites interface set by get_template_and_user
13:59 mtj hi nugged, yep, we havent pushed the 23.05 pkgs yet
14:01 marcelr always wait a bit :)
14:03 mtj we need to add a 23.05 branch to ktd
14:10 cait marcelr: it took me a while, but: lol
14:13 marcelr np
14:21 PedroAmorim[m] marcelr: around? we have a 22.11.06 installation with the same issue describe in bug 32011
14:21 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32011 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to stable , 2FA - Problem with qr_code generation
14:21 PedroAmorim[m] I have not dabbed in 2FA before and I'm a bit confused with the discussion in the bug!
14:21 it's only that specific installation, other 22.11.06 are not suffering from it, my understanding is the secret length is the cause?
14:21 what secret is this and where can I spot it? =D
14:25 marcelr hi PedroAmorim[m]
14:26 that bug is a bit far in my mind currently
14:26 PedroAmorim[m] hey! no worries!
14:26 marcelr you should be able to find it quickly in the module for 2FA
14:26 tcohen Joubu: the DBIC difference is when you rebuild against an updated db. right?
14:28 mtj: what have you done for the build? reverted the unit file?
14:28 I need to get updated on where we are at so I can fix things
14:29 mtj hi tcohen, ive make a build, with the 2nd patch of bz 33371 applied
14:29 tcohen mtj: don't publish packages yet
14:30 we need a fix on a db_rev as well
14:30 ok?
14:30 mtj ...pushed to master and 23.05 dists, on koha-staging repo
14:30 yep, ok :)
14:32 tcohen I'll revert the unit file for now
14:32 in master and in 23.05
14:32 or... have you tested the follow-up?
14:33 nugged tcohen: I am using that .service on production in my beta-build as made in 33371
14:35 tcohen ok, nugged and mtj tested and agreed the follow-up is good to go then
14:35 nugged that's why I signed off that patch in 33371 - at least mine 4 servers now confirmed after koha-common update with this patch started to reboot OKey=ley
14:36 > is good to go then
14:36 ... at least "a little" better with follow-up than without anyway :)
14:37 tcohen can we roll back and add a codename?
14:37 mtj tcohen: you can do whatever you want :)
14:40 cait .. but not titanic.
14:44 nugged Colossal
14:44 Monumental
14:44 Herculean
14:44 Olympian
14:44 Majestic
14:44 Grand
14:44 Epic
14:44 Mighty
14:44 Noble
14:45 Illustrious
14:45 Monumental
14:45 Imperial
14:45 Regal
14:45 Sublime
14:45 🤭
14:46 "Koha goes to Helsinki" :P
14:46 btw, there is the Finnish word you should learn -
14:46 Sisu
14:48 this word doesn't have direct translation to other languages, somewhat Finnish-courage-stubbornness-resilience
14:48 (it's not to say it for us but meaning... ha! it fits instead of Titanic :) )
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14:49 nugged "Sisu" is a Finnish concept that can be roughly translated as strength of will, determination, perseverance, and acting rationally in the face of adversity. It's a form of courage that's typically about taking action against the odds and displaying courage and resoluteness in the face of adversity. In essence, it's the power that enables individuals to push through significant challenges, no matter how insurmountable they seem.
14:50 ok, ok,
14:50 caroline sounds like "grit"
14:50 * nugged fell silent
14:51 fell silent with proposals :), but not in replies
14:52 nugged caroline: very very close, right
14:53 Quoting (my own) another chat –
14:53 "sisu" goes beyond that, incorporating a sense of acting rationally against the odds, continuing when success seems unlikely, and even a form of transformative resilience that can change the course of events.
14:53 While "grit" often refers to long-term goals and consistency of effort, "sisu" is more about short-term bursts of extraordinary courage and determination in extreme situations. It is often described as a reserve of power which enables extraordinary action when normal mental or physical capacities have been exceeded.
14:53 So, while they have overlapping meanings, "sisu" contains elements that go beyond the concept of "grit".
14:54 caroline language is so cool
14:55 cait it's a lot better than Titanic for sure :)
14:55 or yesterday's proposal of Apocalypse
15:00 nugged "Apocalypse"... Ukraine fighting against that right now 💪 ... But it's very close, right. Let's have a resilience and courage, as well with Koha. So right to get to more 'we have a change to survive / we will' name :)
15:03 * nugged brought itching topic, wrapping it. Oss!
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15:15 reiveune bye
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15:19 tcohen We will definitely start using codenames for next releaes
15:19 afk for a while, cya!
15:25 mtj hi tcohen, can you set 23.05 branch on KTD to 'protected'
15:42 oleonard-away Is Library Thing for Libraries still a thing?
15:42 caroline oleonard, I recently had someone migrate from that to Koha, so I would say yes?
15:45 oleonard I wonder if the LTFL features still work in the OPAC
15:47 caroline Maybe I'm not thinking of the same thing then... They were using it as an ILS
15:48 oleonard Maybe it was TinyCat?
15:51 caroline I don't have their old catalog anymore obviously, but the file of records they sent me has "Librarything" in the filename
15:53 might have been tinycat, I'm surprised I don't remember since there is a cat :)
16:10 oleonard kidclamp, khall_ do you know of any libraries using LTFL integration in Koha?
16:11 * khall_ is afraid to ask what LTFL is
16:12 cait library thing for libraries
16:12 (I don't know why I know this)
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17:41 kidclamp I suspect we do, I have heard of it, but educators may know
17:41 What prompted the question oleonard?
17:58 oleonard kidclamp: I wasn't able to get it to work while testing a patch, so I wondered if it was broken
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19:36 davidnind tcohen: what day and time would you like set for the next development meeting?
19:37 tcohen Next wednesday, the usual time
19:37 davidnind++
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19:53 cait davidnind++ thx for the sign and fix :)
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21:17 davidnind Agenda for next development IRC meeting and calendar entry added: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_7_June_2023
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