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| 04:23 | RafaelFernandes[m] | Hi |
| 05:45 | Joubu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE |
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| 06:31 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:38 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:38 | tcohen++ # release time | |
| 06:39 | fridolin | tcohen++ what a joy to see v23.05.00 :D |
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| 08:06 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 08:07 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 08:13 | cait | day after release... how does everyone feel? |
| 08:17 | * fridolin | warming up for RMaint |
| 08:17 | fridolin | i need to recreate a fresh KTD :) |
| 08:17 | and check credencials | |
| 08:19 | Joubu: Bug 22802 comment 10, wrong bug maybe | |
| 08:19 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22802 blocker, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, When ordering from a staged file, if funds are populated per item order level fund should not be required |
| 08:32 | Joubu | nope, correct bug |
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| 09:31 | marcelr | Joubu: would you include the perltidy thing in qa tools ? |
| 09:31 | somehow i dont like to fail qa just for spaces and so ? | |
| 09:40 | Joubu | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]merge_requests/50 |
| 09:41 | and https://gitlab.com/joubu/qa-te[…]ts/check-tidiness | |
| 09:41 | and especifically "Check tidiness - consider failure as warning" I have implemented less than 20 min ago :D | |
| 09:41 | marcelr: we need to teach people to tidy their code | |
| 09:42 | it's fine for code submitted prior to a possible decision | |
| 09:42 | jajm | Joubu: "The file must be as much tidy after (ARRAY(0x555d38534da8)) than before (ARRAY(0x555d339791a0))" :D |
| 09:42 | Joubu | but then we will opt for a perltidyrc config people will have to adjust their editor |
| 09:42 | jajm: with or without "prevent the tests to explode". | |
| 09:42 | ? | |
| 09:43 | jajm | Joubu: with |
| 09:43 | marcelr | will have a look, Joubu; thx |
| 09:44 | Joubu | erk I forgot to add a file to the commit! |
| 09:44 | 306 return $full_buf->[0]; | |
| 09:44 | in QohA/File/Perl.pm | |
| 09:44 | adjusting the commit | |
| 09:44 | marcelr | fix it ! |
| 09:45 | Joubu | jajm: refetch! |
| 09:45 | marcelr | @later tell khall could you comment on bug 33878 ? |
| 09:45 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:47 | jajm | Joubu: no more warn message, i need to find another commit |
| 09:48 | Joubu: it's ok now, thanks | |
| 09:49 | but i find the message confusing "The file must be as much tidy after (2) than before (1)" | |
| 09:49 | Joubu | feel free to adjust |
| 09:49 | it's a POC for now | |
| 09:49 | still more to do | |
| 09:50 | * replace xt/perltidyrc with .perltidyrc in the command | |
| 09:50 | * fix the qa-test-tools test (how do we locate the good .perltidyrc from Koha? Do we want that?) | |
| 09:50 | * empty lines are caught and warning is raised when it shouldn't | |
| 09:52 | jajm | suggestion: "The file is less tidy than before (bad/messy lines before: 1, now: 2)" |
| 09:54 | Joubu | done, thanks |
| 09:55 | nugged | Joubu cait ashimema: what do you think about that - https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=33371#c5 |
| 09:55 | huginn | 04Bug 33371: normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to master , Add 'koha-common.service' systemd service |
| 09:55 | nugged | it might affect the release |
| 09:55 | at least I patched my productions | |
| 09:57 | Joubu | absolutely no idea! |
| 10:00 | cait | not quite my area of expertise either :( |
| 10:01 | mtj | hi folks |
| 10:02 | nugged: it seems like a good idea :) | |
| 10:04 | let me test the reboot | |
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| 10:51 | nugged | mtj: 🙏 |
| 11:21 | tcohen | hola #koha o/ |
| 11:23 | mtj: can you spin up a -1 package? | |
| 11:24 | mtj | hi tcohen, yep, i just poking this systemd thing ^ |
| 11:24 | tcohen | exqctly |
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| 11:29 | marcelr | o/ |
| 11:45 | tcohen | bbiab |
| 12:14 | marcelr | @later tell oleonard added followup on 33608 |
| 12:14 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:14 | oleonard | 👍🏻 |
| 12:19 | Joubu | tcohen: see https://tree.taiga.io/project/koha-ils/task/117 |
| 12:23 | tcohen: installer/data/mysql/db_revs/221200026.pl | |
| 12:23 | it must be *unless* fk exists! | |
| 12:24 | there is also a typo in the description endopoint | |
| 12:32 | marcelr | thx oleonard++ |
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| 12:47 | * khall_ | waves |
| 12:53 | oleonard | Hi khall_ |
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| 12:56 | mtj | hi tcohen, nugged, i tested the systemd patch, and it seems to work well |
| 12:57 | i added a follow-up patch to bug 33371 | |
| 12:57 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33371 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , Add 'koha-common.service' systemd service |
| 13:13 | tcohen | Joubu: there seems to be only one difference |
| 13:13 | the column comments are... | |
| 13:13 | nugged | but before the patch the issue is there, right? |
| 13:14 | this to say - it means release will ruin reboots for those who upgrade so this is "blocker/critical" patch? | |
| 13:25 | mtj | nugged: yes and yes |
| 13:26 | nugged | mtj: thanks! |
| 13:26 | tcohen: ALARM! ALARM!!! :)... 🤷♂️ | |
| 13:27 | mtj | tcohen: we can either remove the *.service file - or add the follow-up patch |
| 13:28 | we could revert, and plan to re-add file in next release, after further testing | |
| 13:28 | marcelr | it fits with the Disaster release name :) |
| 13:29 | mtj | 23.05 titanic |
| 13:29 | marcelr | great |
| 13:30 | mtj | lets no go there team :) |
| 13:30 | revert might be the safer option? | |
| 13:37 | ill build a 23.05 pkg now | |
| 13:40 | nugged | Did we manage to slip into that tiny sliver of time before we presented the .deb to the world? |
| 13:43 | cait | we are not naming it Titanic! |
| 13:53 | marcelr | ah cait |
| 13:53 | kate :) | |
| 13:56 | for the fans of Auth.pm bug 33879 | |
| 13:56 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33879 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Check_cookie_auth overwrites interface set by get_template_and_user |
| 13:59 | mtj | hi nugged, yep, we havent pushed the 23.05 pkgs yet |
| 14:01 | marcelr | always wait a bit :) |
| 14:03 | mtj | we need to add a 23.05 branch to ktd |
| 14:10 | cait | marcelr: it took me a while, but: lol |
| 14:13 | marcelr | np |
| 14:21 | PedroAmorim[m] | marcelr: around? we have a 22.11.06 installation with the same issue describe in bug 32011 |
| 14:21 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32011 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to stable , 2FA - Problem with qr_code generation |
| 14:21 | PedroAmorim[m] | I have not dabbed in 2FA before and I'm a bit confused with the discussion in the bug! |
| 14:21 | it's only that specific installation, other 22.11.06 are not suffering from it, my understanding is the secret length is the cause? | |
| 14:21 | what secret is this and where can I spot it? =D | |
| 14:25 | marcelr | hi PedroAmorim[m] |
| 14:26 | that bug is a bit far in my mind currently | |
| 14:26 | PedroAmorim[m] | hey! no worries! |
| 14:26 | marcelr | you should be able to find it quickly in the module for 2FA |
| 14:26 | tcohen | Joubu: the DBIC difference is when you rebuild against an updated db. right? |
| 14:28 | mtj: what have you done for the build? reverted the unit file? | |
| 14:28 | I need to get updated on where we are at so I can fix things | |
| 14:29 | mtj | hi tcohen, ive make a build, with the 2nd patch of bz 33371 applied |
| 14:29 | tcohen | mtj: don't publish packages yet |
| 14:30 | we need a fix on a db_rev as well | |
| 14:30 | ok? | |
| 14:30 | mtj | ...pushed to master and 23.05 dists, on koha-staging repo |
| 14:30 | yep, ok :) | |
| 14:32 | tcohen | I'll revert the unit file for now |
| 14:32 | in master and in 23.05 | |
| 14:32 | or... have you tested the follow-up? | |
| 14:33 | nugged | tcohen: I am using that .service on production in my beta-build as made in 33371 |
| 14:35 | tcohen | ok, nugged and mtj tested and agreed the follow-up is good to go then |
| 14:35 | nugged | that's why I signed off that patch in 33371 - at least mine 4 servers now confirmed after koha-common update with this patch started to reboot OKey=ley |
| 14:36 | > is good to go then | |
| 14:36 | ... at least "a little" better with follow-up than without anyway :) | |
| 14:37 | tcohen | can we roll back and add a codename? |
| 14:37 | mtj | tcohen: you can do whatever you want :) |
| 14:40 | cait | .. but not titanic. |
| 14:44 | nugged | Colossal |
| 14:44 | Monumental | |
| 14:44 | Herculean | |
| 14:44 | Olympian | |
| 14:44 | Majestic | |
| 14:44 | Grand | |
| 14:44 | Epic | |
| 14:44 | Mighty | |
| 14:44 | Noble | |
| 14:45 | Illustrious | |
| 14:45 | Monumental | |
| 14:45 | Imperial | |
| 14:45 | Regal | |
| 14:45 | Sublime | |
| 14:45 | 🤭 | |
| 14:46 | "Koha goes to Helsinki" :P | |
| 14:46 | btw, there is the Finnish word you should learn - | |
| 14:46 | Sisu | |
| 14:48 | this word doesn't have direct translation to other languages, somewhat Finnish-courage-stubbornness-resilience | |
| 14:48 | (it's not to say it for us but meaning... ha! it fits instead of Titanic :) ) | |
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| 14:49 | nugged | "Sisu" is a Finnish concept that can be roughly translated as strength of will, determination, perseverance, and acting rationally in the face of adversity. It's a form of courage that's typically about taking action against the odds and displaying courage and resoluteness in the face of adversity. In essence, it's the power that enables individuals to push through significant challenges, no matter how insurmountable they seem. |
| 14:50 | ok, ok, | |
| 14:50 | caroline | sounds like "grit" |
| 14:50 | * nugged | fell silent |
| 14:51 | fell silent with proposals :), but not in replies | |
| 14:52 | nugged | caroline: very very close, right |
| 14:53 | Quoting (my own) another chat – | |
| 14:53 | "sisu" goes beyond that, incorporating a sense of acting rationally against the odds, continuing when success seems unlikely, and even a form of transformative resilience that can change the course of events. | |
| 14:53 | While "grit" often refers to long-term goals and consistency of effort, "sisu" is more about short-term bursts of extraordinary courage and determination in extreme situations. It is often described as a reserve of power which enables extraordinary action when normal mental or physical capacities have been exceeded. | |
| 14:53 | So, while they have overlapping meanings, "sisu" contains elements that go beyond the concept of "grit". | |
| 14:54 | caroline | language is so cool |
| 14:55 | cait | it's a lot better than Titanic for sure :) |
| 14:55 | or yesterday's proposal of Apocalypse | |
| 15:00 | nugged | "Apocalypse"... Ukraine fighting against that right now 💪 ... But it's very close, right. Let's have a resilience and courage, as well with Koha. So right to get to more 'we have a change to survive / we will' name :) |
| 15:03 | * nugged | brought itching topic, wrapping it. Oss! |
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| 15:15 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:19 | tcohen | We will definitely start using codenames for next releaes |
| 15:19 | afk for a while, cya! | |
| 15:25 | mtj | hi tcohen, can you set 23.05 branch on KTD to 'protected' |
| 15:42 | oleonard-away | Is Library Thing for Libraries still a thing? |
| 15:42 | caroline | oleonard, I recently had someone migrate from that to Koha, so I would say yes? |
| 15:45 | oleonard | I wonder if the LTFL features still work in the OPAC |
| 15:47 | caroline | Maybe I'm not thinking of the same thing then... They were using it as an ILS |
| 15:48 | oleonard | Maybe it was TinyCat? |
| 15:51 | caroline | I don't have their old catalog anymore obviously, but the file of records they sent me has "Librarything" in the filename |
| 15:53 | might have been tinycat, I'm surprised I don't remember since there is a cat :) | |
| 16:10 | oleonard | kidclamp, khall_ do you know of any libraries using LTFL integration in Koha? |
| 16:11 | * khall_ | is afraid to ask what LTFL is |
| 16:12 | cait | library thing for libraries |
| 16:12 | (I don't know why I know this) | |
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| 17:41 | kidclamp | I suspect we do, I have heard of it, but educators may know |
| 17:41 | What prompted the question oleonard? | |
| 17:58 | oleonard | kidclamp: I wasn't able to get it to work while testing a patch, so I wondered if it was broken |
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| 19:36 | davidnind | tcohen: what day and time would you like set for the next development meeting? |
| 19:37 | tcohen | Next wednesday, the usual time |
| 19:37 | davidnind++ | |
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| 19:53 | cait | davidnind++ thx for the sign and fix :) |
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| 21:17 | davidnind | Agenda for next development IRC meeting and calendar entry added: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_7_June_2023 |
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