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| 04:48 | thomas63[m] | hi there |
| 04:51 | what are other libraries do in case of a power outage? In ours, librarians write down the borrower and the book‘s number and title to a sheet of paper. And maybe you can imagine, that this is extremely prone to error. And I mean a power outage, and all computers are down… Is there a mobile app, which scans the borrower’s member card and the book barcodes? And then export that later somehow to Koha? Is there any interface to process a | |
| 04:51 | list in any specific format? | |
| 05:06 | mtj | hi thomas63[m]: try https://bywatersolutions.com/e[…]-circulation-tool |
| 05:15 | thomas63[m] | thanks, I already found that, but this still needs a PC running. Unfortunately in NZ we have more power outages as in Europe. I think having a mobile phone running during a power outage is more realistic, than having a PC running. I already found a „stupid“ barcode scanner app for my iPhone, which at the end can export the data, which would simply be numbers of borrowers and numbers of books with timestamps. With some reformatting of |
| 05:15 | this list, I hoped it’s possible to import it into Koha. | |
| 05:24 | is there somewhere a description how this Upload offline circulation file (.koc) must be created, with an own tool? I mean the exact file structure? | |
| 06:57 | ok, I know, RTFM 😁, I finally found it 👍 | |
| 06:59 | pastebot | "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Example .koc file" (5 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/9076 |
| 07:00 | davidnind | thomas63: ^^ this is an example file I used when testing a bug some time ago - can't remember how I worked out what is required (or the bug number...) |
| 07:15 | thomas63: thinking out load here, maybe you could install the Firefox extension on a mobile device and use that (disclaimer - I have not tried it!) https://koha-community.org/man[…]ml#firefox-plugin | |
| 07:25 | .. loud.. | |
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| 08:32 | tolu | Good Morning here |
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| 09:21 | * cait | waves |
| 09:50 | tolu | I need help on installing koha, please help |
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| 11:23 | paulderscheid[m] | What do you need help with? |
| 11:23 | tolu | |
| 11:30 | thomas63[m] | <davidnind> "thomas63: thinking out load here..." <- thanks… I think about using in a first step an existing barcode scanner app from the appstore, and simply scan the borrower’s card and the book‘s barcodes in defined order. The app allows to export the scans with timestamp to a .csv file. Doing then the rest with simple Excel functions on a PC, when the power is back. I guess, it’s not really complicated. When it works, I am happy |
| 11:30 | to share the solution here. | |
| 11:32 | thomas63[m]: I also thought about the Firefox plugin on a mobile phone, but then there is no way to use the camera as a scanner (at least I do not see a way). | |
| 11:51 | mtj | thomas63[m]: you could also attach a usb/bluetooth barcode scanner to your fone/tablet |
| 11:59 | if you have an existing scanner attached to a circ computer, you can probably repurpose that | |
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| 12:27 | * cait | waves at khall |
| 12:27 | * khall | waves |
| 12:27 | cait | :) |
| 12:28 | just waiting for my ktd pull to finish | |
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| 12:32 | cait | hi caroline |
| 12:34 | Someone available for a SO on bug 33639? | |
| 12:34 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33639 trivial, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , Adding item to item group from 'Add item' screen doesn't work |
| 12:55 | caroline | hi cait! |
| 12:55 | I have training this morning, but I can SO after | |
| 13:04 | cait | caroline: thanks :) i just failed it I am afraid :( |
| 13:05 | good luck with training! | |
| 13:10 | caroline: if you have time later, bug 33590 would be great - it includes, but not only, the broken select all/unselect all link in serial collection | |
| 13:10 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33590 normal, P5 - low, ---, slavashishkin, Needs Signoff , WRAPPER tab_panel breaks JS on some pages (Select all/Clear all, post-Ajax updates) |
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| 15:51 | cait | caroline++ |
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| 16:32 | cait | lukeg++ :) |
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| 18:38 | ADC_ | I need help figuring out what happen to the add item section in one of my frameworks. I edited some fields and now i can't add a barcode. |
| 18:44 | caroline | did you hide it? |
| 18:45 | The visibility 'Editor' needs to be checked for 952$p (if you are using MARC21) | |
| 18:48 | ADC_ | I deleted a few fields like 000 and 008 and some others. |
| 18:48 | caroline | eesh... that's not a good idea... |
| 18:49 | A lot of functionalities rest on those fields | |
| 18:50 | It's always better, in my opinion, to 'hide' the fields rather than delete them. But those two specifically (000 and 008) should not be hidden or deleted at all | |
| 18:51 | ADC_ | It will not let me add anything back either. Do you know what i can do |
| 18:52 | caroline | Did you remove them from the default framework or one of the other ones? |
| 18:53 | ADC_ | The fast add framework |
| 18:53 | It will not let me delete it and start over either | |
| 18:55 | caroline | you could try exporting the default and FA in CSV, copy the lines from the default CSV to the FA CSV and reimport it? |
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| 18:57 | ADC_ | Where can i get that from |
| 18:57 | I had thought of this | |
| 18:57 | caroline | Administration > MARC frameworks > Action button > Export |
| 18:58 | ADC_ | Wil it tell me which file to export |
| 18:59 | caroline | The Action button is specific to the framework, so you'll have to do it for both |
| 18:59 | ADC_ | ok let me see |
| 19:00 | is it marc bibliographic framework that i go to | |
| 19:00 | caroline | yes |
| 19:01 | ADC_ | the the fast add? |
| 19:01 | caroline | yes, and default so you can see what are the lines that need to be added |
| 19:02 | ADC_ | do the same thing in default |
| 19:02 | then import right? | |
| 19:04 | caroline | you could simply import the default CSV in the FA framework and work from there if you want |
| 19:04 | or you could open both files in a text editor and copy the 000 and 008 lines from the default to the FA. and then import the FA back | |
| 19:06 | ADC_ | Ok, can i remove unwanted fields in this csv file before importing. I am trying to keep it very simple with just author title and isbn and barcode. |
| 19:07 | oh ok I tried to add the 000 field back myself in edit mode and it wouldn't add back. | |
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| 19:09 | ADC_ | i am trying to keep from deleting one by one of the unwanted fields |
| 19:10 | caroline | I understand the need to keep it simple |
| 19:10 | especially if you're working with volunteers | |
| 19:11 | ADC_ | Can i delete the unwanted fileds in the csv file and upload |
| 19:11 | just keep the required right. maybe i messed it all up when i deleted the 000 and 008 | |
| 19:11 | caroline | You can, however I advise against deleting them. It would be better to change the visibility |
| 19:11 | let me get you the values | |
| 19:12 | ADC_ | but you have to do that one by one right? |
| 19:12 | caroline | there is a column in the CSV for visibility |
| 19:12 | it should be a value between -8 and 8 | |
| 19:12 | ADC_ | oh great! |
| 19:13 | however don't ssee it | |
| 19:13 | caroline | in the subfields section? |
| 19:13 | It wount be in the fields section | |
| 19:14 | If you enter 8 as the value, it should be completely hidden (same as unchecking all boxes) | |
| 19:14 | ADC_ | how do i see subfields in the ccv file |
| 19:14 | caroline | it might be at the bottom? |
| 19:15 | It starts with all the fields, and then all the subfields | |
| 19:16 | the column for visibility is called 'hidden' | |
| 19:16 | You can CTRL+F hidden and yoou should be able to jump to the subfields | |
| 19:18 | ADC_ | liblibrarianlibopacrepeatablemandatoryimportantkohafieldtabauthorised_valueauthtypecodevalue_builderisurlhiddenframeworkcodeseealsolinkdefaultvaluemaxlengthdisplay_order |
| 19:18 | That is the only word hidden | |
| 19:18 | caroline | yep that's the one |
| 19:19 | under that line, you should see all the subfields | |
| 19:19 | and you can change the 'hidden' value to 8 for the ones you don't want | |
| 19:19 | ADC_ | oh i see i will try this. thank you so very much. |
| 19:20 | caroline | +1 good luck! |
| 19:20 | ADC_ | i am a copy cataloger and don't know all these fields. |
| 19:20 | i will report back for others | |
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| 20:41 | ADC_ | Well it didn't change anything. All those fields are still not there. Like 000 and 008 |
| 20:43 | caroline | Did you reimport the csv file? |
| 20:43 | did it give you a message? | |
| 20:43 | ADC_ | yes |
| 20:43 | no message | |
| 20:45 | caroline | weird. I haven't used that in many years, but it should work |
| 20:47 | Ok I just tried it in master and it seems to work correctly. | |
| 20:47 | ADC_ | where is the master |
| 20:48 | caroline | Can you try to import the csv file for the default framework in Fast add, without any changes? |
| 20:48 | Maybe there was a comma missing somewhere and it freaked out, it can happen when we edit it manually | |
| 20:49 | master is the development version of Koha. I was working in it right now, so I tried exporting and importing and it worked fine for me | |
| 20:49 | granted I didn't change the CSV file | |
| 20:50 | ADC_ | all i changed was the hidden field |
| 20:50 | caroline | what software did you use to change it? Maybe it added some characters it wasn't supposed to when you saved? |
| 20:52 | ADC_ | excel |
| 20:54 | caroline | It's possible it added something, or changed the separator from comma to semi-colon or something like that. |
| 20:57 | ADC_ | i will try again |
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| 20:58 | aleisha | hello |
| 20:59 | caroline | good morning aleisha! |
| 20:59 | aleisha | morning caroline :) |
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