IRC log for #koha, 2023-05-01

← Previous day | Today | Next day → | Search | Index

All times shown according to UTC.

Time Nick Message
00:53 khall joined #koha
04:48 thomas63[m] hi there
04:51 what are other libraries do in case of a power outage? In ours, librarians write down the borrower and the book‘s number and title to a sheet of paper. And maybe you can imagine, that this is extremely prone to error. And I mean a power outage, and all computers are down… Is there a mobile app, which scans the borrower’s member card and the book barcodes? And then export that later somehow to Koha? Is there any interface to process a
04:51 list in any specific format?
05:06 mtj hi thomas63[m]: try https://bywatersolutions.com/e[…]-circulation-tool
05:15 thomas63[m] thanks, I already found that, but this still needs a PC running. Unfortunately in NZ we have more power outages as in Europe. I think having a mobile phone running during a power outage is more realistic, than having a PC running. I already found a „stupid“ barcode scanner app for my iPhone, which at the end can export the data, which would simply be numbers of borrowers and numbers of books with timestamps. With some reformatting of
05:15 this list, I hoped it’s possible to import it into Koha.
05:24 is there somewhere a description how this Upload offline circulation file (.koc) must be created, with an own tool? I mean the exact file structure?
06:57 ok, I know, RTFM 😁, I finally found it 👍
06:59 pastebot "davidnind" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Example .koc file" (5 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/9076
07:00 davidnind thomas63: ^^ this is an example file I used when testing a bug some time ago - can't remember how I worked out what is required (or the bug number...)
07:15 thomas63: thinking out load here, maybe you could install the Firefox extension on a mobile device and use that (disclaimer - I have not tried it!) https://koha-community.org/man[…]ml#firefox-plugin
07:25 .. loud..
08:32 tolu joined #koha
08:32 tolu Good Morning here
09:18 cait joined #koha
09:21 * cait waves
09:50 tolu I need help on installing koha, please  help
10:23 khall joined #koha
11:23 paulderscheid[m] What do you need help with?
11:23 tolu
11:30 thomas63[m] <davidnind> "thomas63: thinking out load here..." <- thanks… I think about using in a first step an existing barcode scanner app from the appstore, and simply scan the borrower’s card and the book‘s barcodes in defined order. The app allows to export the scans with timestamp to a .csv file. Doing then the rest with simple Excel functions on a PC, when the power is back. I guess, it’s not really complicated. When it works, I am happy
11:30 to share the solution here.
11:32 thomas63[m]: I also thought about the Firefox plugin on a mobile phone, but then there is no way to use the camera as a scanner (at least I do not see a way).
11:51 mtj thomas63[m]: you could also attach a usb/bluetooth barcode scanner to your fone/tablet
11:59 if you have an existing scanner attached to a circ computer, you can probably repurpose that
12:14 khall joined #koha
12:27 * cait waves at khall
12:27 * khall waves
12:27 cait :)
12:28 just waiting for my ktd pull to finish
12:31 caroline joined #koha
12:32 cait hi caroline
12:34 Someone available for a SO on bug 33639?
12:34 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33639 trivial, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , Adding item to item group from 'Add item' screen doesn't work
12:55 caroline hi cait!
12:55 I have training this morning, but I can SO after
13:04 cait caroline: thanks :) i just failed it I am afraid :(
13:05 good luck with training!
13:10 caroline: if you have time later, bug 33590 would be great - it includes, but not only, the broken select all/unselect all link in serial collection
13:10 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33590 normal, P5 - low, ---, slavashishkin, Needs Signoff , WRAPPER tab_panel breaks JS on some pages (Select all/Clear all, post-Ajax updates)
13:27 Dyrcona joined #koha
13:40 khall joined #koha
14:01 lukeg joined #koha
15:00 bag joined #koha
15:00 khall_ joined #koha
15:41 khall joined #koha
15:51 cait caroline++
16:31 khall joined #koha
16:32 cait lukeg++ :)
16:45 khall_ joined #koha
16:58 khall joined #koha
17:20 MarkHofstetter joined #koha
17:33 khall joined #koha
17:50 khall_ joined #koha
18:25 khall joined #koha
18:37 ADC_ joined #koha
18:38 ADC_ I need help figuring out what happen to the add item section in one of my frameworks. I edited some fields and now i can't add a barcode.
18:44 caroline did you hide it?
18:45 The visibility 'Editor' needs to be checked for 952$p (if you are using MARC21)
18:48 ADC_ I deleted  a few fields like 000 and 008 and some others.
18:48 caroline eesh... that's not a good idea...
18:49 A lot of functionalities rest on those fields
18:50 It's always better, in my opinion, to 'hide' the fields rather than delete them. But those two specifically (000 and 008) should not be hidden or deleted at all
18:51 ADC_ It will not let me add anything back either. Do you know what i can do
18:52 caroline Did you remove them from the default framework or one of the other ones?
18:53 ADC_ The fast add framework
18:53 It will not let me delete it and start over either
18:55 caroline you could try exporting the default and FA in CSV, copy the lines from the default CSV to the FA CSV and reimport it?
18:55 khall joined #koha
18:57 ADC_ Where can i get that from
18:57 I had thought of this
18:57 caroline Administration > MARC frameworks > Action button > Export
18:58 ADC_ Wil it tell me which file to export
18:59 caroline The Action button is specific to the framework, so you'll have to do it for both
18:59 ADC_ ok let me see
19:00 is it marc bibliographic framework that i go to
19:00 caroline yes
19:01 ADC_ the the fast add?
19:01 caroline yes, and default so you can see what are the lines that need to be added
19:02 ADC_ do the same thing in default
19:02 then import right?
19:04 caroline you could simply import the default CSV in the FA framework and work from there if you want
19:04 or you could open both files in a text editor and copy the 000 and 008 lines from the default to the FA. and then import the FA back
19:06 ADC_ Ok, can i remove unwanted fields in this csv file before importing. I am trying to keep it very simple with just author title and isbn and barcode.
19:07 oh ok I tried to add the 000 field back myself in edit mode and it wouldn't add back.
19:08 MarkHofstetter joined #koha
19:09 ADC_ i am trying to keep from deleting one by one of the unwanted fields
19:10 caroline I understand the need to keep it simple
19:10 especially if you're working with volunteers
19:11 ADC_ Can i delete the unwanted fileds in the csv file and upload
19:11 just keep the required right. maybe i messed it all up when i deleted the 000 and 008
19:11 caroline You can, however I advise against deleting them. It would be better to change the visibility
19:11 let me get you the values
19:12 ADC_ but you have to do that one by one right?
19:12 caroline there is a column in the CSV for visibility
19:12 it should be a value between -8 and 8
19:12 ADC_ oh great!
19:13 however  don't ssee it
19:13 caroline in the subfields section?
19:13 It wount be in the fields section
19:14 If you enter 8 as the value, it should be completely hidden (same as unchecking all boxes)
19:14 ADC_ how do i see subfields in the ccv file
19:14 caroline it might be at the bottom?
19:15 It starts with all the fields, and then all the subfields
19:16 the column for visibility is called 'hidden'
19:16 You can CTRL+F hidden and yoou should be able to jump to the subfields
19:18 ADC_ liblibrarianlibopacrepeatablemandatoryimportantkohafieldtabauthorised_valueauthtypecodevalue_builderisurlhiddenframeworkcodeseealsolinkdefaultvaluemaxlengthdisplay_order
19:18 That is the only word hidden
19:18 caroline yep that's the one
19:19 under that line, you should see all the subfields
19:19 and you can change the 'hidden' value to 8 for the ones you don't want
19:19 ADC_ oh i see i will try this. thank you so very much.
19:20 caroline +1 good luck!
19:20 ADC_ i am a copy cataloger and don't know all these fields.
19:20 i will report back for others
20:08 MarkHofstetter joined #koha
20:41 ADC_ Well it didn't change anything. All those fields are still not there. Like 000 and 008
20:43 caroline Did you reimport the csv file?
20:43 did it give you a message?
20:43 ADC_ yes
20:43 no message
20:45 caroline weird. I haven't used that in many years, but it should work
20:47 Ok I just tried it in master and it seems to work correctly.
20:47 ADC_ where is the master
20:48 caroline Can you try to import the csv file for the default framework in Fast add, without any changes?
20:48 Maybe there was a comma missing somewhere and it freaked out, it can happen when we edit it manually
20:49 master is the development version of Koha. I was working in it right now, so I tried exporting and importing and it worked fine for me
20:49 granted I didn't change the CSV file
20:50 ADC_ all i changed was the hidden field
20:50 caroline what software did you use to change it? Maybe it added some characters it wasn't supposed to when you saved?
20:52 ADC_ excel
20:54 caroline It's possible it added something, or changed the separator from comma to semi-colon or something like that.
20:57 ADC_ i will try again
20:58 aleisha joined #koha
20:58 aleisha hello
20:59 caroline good morning aleisha!
20:59 aleisha morning caroline :)
22:30 cait joined #koha

← Previous day | Today | Next day → | Search | Index

koha1