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| 06:35 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:35 | marcelr | o/ |
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| 07:14 | marcelr | @later tell cait 30352 is yours |
| 07:14 | huginn | marcelr: The operation succeeded. |
| 07:16 | cait | giving trainign this and next week - I'll try to do QA as soon as I can |
| 07:28 | marcelr | a signoff would be nice too |
| 07:30 | magnuse__ | anyone know what "Bankable" means, in the context of the point of sale/cash register thingies? ashimema? |
| 07:33 | ashimema | cash that can be taken out of the register and taken to the bank |
| 07:34 | so it's real money as apposed to credit card payments and it excludes the float that's assigned to the register | |
| 07:34 | school run time, brb | |
| 07:38 | magnuse__ | ok, thanks! |
| 08:52 | Joubu | I have submitted patches on bug 33568 to replace the items table on the biblio detail page with to make it use the REST API |
| 08:52 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33568 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Use the REST API to display items on the biblio detail view |
| 08:53 | Joubu | catalogue/detail.[pl,tt] are modified significantly, so please it in mind for new submissions |
| 08:53 | help and feedback welcome! | |
| 08:56 | ashimema | nice! |
| 08:56 | I need to focus on some features and enhancements I'm still keen to get into 23.05 I'm afraid.. i've been far too distracted the last months. | |
| 09:00 | marcelr | ashimema: i am digging a bit into refactor db translations; what are your plans there ? |
| 09:03 | ashimema | I have none for the moment |
| 09:03 | I'll happily lend a hand if asked.. | |
| 09:03 | but at this time I'm behind and can't really remember all the details | |
| 09:04 | * ashimema | needs to get bookings all working again.. so much changed in master that a lot of it is plain broken and we have multiple customers and partners crying out for it |
| 09:04 | marcelr | ok |
| 09:05 | there was a lot of changed ideas during the way on that report.. | |
| 09:05 | 24975 | |
| 09:05 | ashimema | yeah |
| 09:05 | we kept refining it | |
| 09:05 | I lost the plot by the end ☹️ | |
| 09:06 | jajm and joubu did most of the heavy lifting | |
| 09:07 | marcelr | yeah and it feels too heavy to me somehow |
| 09:08 | but maybe i didnt get the whole picture yet | |
| 09:09 | Joubu | how too heavy? |
| 09:12 | marcelr | too many changes |
| 09:12 | actually we only did this for itemtypes, and we started programming before we got all ideas what we wanted | |
| 09:12 | ashimema | it's because we were trying to simplify it and make it as flexible as possible I believe |
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| 09:13 | liliputech | hi koha |
| 09:13 | marcelr | o/ |
| 09:18 | Joubu | marcelr: I don't understand the problem you are trying to raise |
| 09:18 | we started with somethign simple, itemtypes | |
| 09:18 | then AVs is a bit more complex, so I extended what existed | |
| 09:18 | but discussions appeared, and alternative approaches | |
| 09:20 | marcelr | the problem is: we got stuck, and I would like to see it move again |
| 09:21 | so maybe a simpler approach could help? | |
| 09:21 | ashimema | my memory is that we kept trying to simplify it and that was the challenge.. simplifying lead to complication 😜 |
| 09:21 | but my memory is vague | |
| 09:22 | Joubu | marcelr: ok then submit a third version :D |
| 09:23 | marcelr | thats always the end of the game :) |
| 09:23 | Joubu | maybe you have not spent enough time on it yet |
| 09:24 | and that's why you think it can be simplified | |
| 09:24 | marcelr | sure |
| 09:24 | Joubu | 24975 is already the simple version |
| 09:25 | ashimema | I was there.. I spent a long time trying to see a simpler way and discussing it with Joubu and jajm.. we simplified it between us as far as we could then got stuck at the last hurdle from memory.. the key construction? that was the last part of the debate to resolve wasn't it? |
| 09:25 | it's been ages.. i really can't remember enough ☹️ | |
| 09:25 | Joubu | it's a naive approach, not in the sense that it is bad. It would work, but IMO there are edge cases, see the comment I pointed you to yesterday |
| 09:28 | marcelr | where is that comment? |
| 09:28 | Joubu | at this point I guess the sync between us (on it at the time) is the key, because I guess the rebase won't be trivial and it will be again a lot energy to put there |
| 09:28 | ashimema | agreed |
| 09:29 | that's why I said we need to get at least the three of us in a room and lock the door until we come out with a solution 😜 | |
| 09:29 | Joubu | same I gave you yesterday - https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=24975#c16 |
| 09:29 | huginn | 04Bug 24975: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Refactor database translations |
| 09:29 | ashimema | it was on my hackfest list.. but there was already a lot on that list 😜 |
| 09:32 | marcelr | yeah i understand that is an example of the whole discussion about going via key or description |
| 09:32 | Books or BK2 | |
| 09:42 | Joubu | marcelr, ashimema: do you have a rebased version, or the patches on the bug are the most recent ones? |
| 09:43 | marcelr | it seems there is no |
| 09:45 | ashimema | I tihnk the bug is probably the most recent work |
| 09:46 | On branch bug_24975... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]IUrBmwncLWFKIXtuA>) | |
| 09:46 | that's the branch I have | |
| 09:47 | Joubu | ok, I will try to rebase it |
| 09:47 | ashimema | do you have a branch to rebase on.. or are you trying to apply the patches and fix on apply? |
| 09:47 | I can push that branch if it helps.. it's probably cloned on gitlab/github already | |
| 09:48 | Joubu | I will be using your branch |
| 09:48 | there is a "lost" patch on the bug, the first one "fix bug" | |
| 09:50 | ashimema | https://github.com/PTFS-Europe[…]ha/tree/bug_24975 |
| 09:51 | our master on github is behind btw.. that's why the numbers are different.. my local tracks upstream properly and I read those numbers from the local | |
| 09:53 | Joubu | ok, on it |
| 09:59 | marcelr | brb |
| 09:59 | Joubu | I wish I would not need to spend time to rebase stuffs I already spent a lot of time 4 years ago... :D |
| 10:46 | ashimema | marcelr |
| 10:46 | I've lost track a bit on DB consistency | |
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| 11:32 | marcelr | o/ |
| 11:33 | ashimema | the final bug on 31028.. is it actually needed |
| 11:33 | you seem to have added a catch for such statements in another bug | |
| 11:33 | which has been pushed since | |
| 11:33 | I think it's still a good cleanup | |
| 11:51 | Joubu still around? | |
| 11:54 | Joubu | yes |
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| 12:47 | anpu26[m] | Hello |
| 12:48 | I have a question, what about the new RDA Marc field(336,337,338) Koha automatically add those or I need to edit the cataloging frameworks and add those fields and subfields? | |
| 12:49 | marcelr | Joubu: will have a try on 24975; hope that I like what I see :) |
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| 12:53 | Josephu | Hello, I |
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| 13:05 | marcelr | Joubu: main form does not load; 500 errror with DataTables |
| 13:07 | Joubu | main form? |
| 13:08 | marcelr | admin/localization |
| 13:08 | Joubu | works for me |
| 13:09 | what error do you get? | |
| 13:10 | marcelr | cache problem |
| 13:11 | resolved | |
| 13:12 | Joubu | marcelr: regarding the last patch - I think we should clean all the item types code, in pl and tt. The mix between db_t calls and ItemTypes.t() TT plugin is confusing |
| 13:13 | I haven't finished, I think I am introducing perf regression. We should do that better. The Koha::ItemTypes set could be unblessed (with the translation_key in it) and cache in the TT plugin | |
| 13:14 | then we always send the code to the template (or the translation_key?) | |
| 13:14 | marcelr | yes, how to cache is an interesting topic |
| 13:15 | Joubu | the strings are cached in L1, in the I18N module |
| 13:15 | but here I am talking about caching the Itemtype objects | |
| 13:15 | marcelr | yes thats interesting |
| 13:15 | Joubu | image_url could then be cached as well |
| 13:16 | could even be in L2 actually, it's easy to clear | |
| 13:17 | to preserve my mental health I need to stay away of this topic for today, I may have a look at that again tomorrow | |
| 13:18 | let me know if you catch 500s! | |
| 13:25 | marcelr | ok |
| 13:32 | magnuse | did someone say pootle was updated with new files? or did i dream it? cait? |
| 13:32 | ashimema | cait did |
| 13:32 | but not for 22.11 | |
| 13:32 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 13:33 | ashimema | not sure why though |
| 13:33 | caroline | I received an email yesterday though |
| 13:33 | from Jacob | |
| 13:33 | ashimema | yeah.. we announced last night |
| 13:33 | I have no idea what actually triggers bernardo to build them | |
| 13:34 | caroline | not sure either |
| 13:35 | this maybe? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s_for_the_release | |
| 13:36 | magnuse | the announcement was string freeze, not new files on pootle? |
| 13:36 | ashimema | correct |
| 13:36 | caroline | It's usually the same though no? |
| 13:36 | ashimema | nope |
| 13:37 | that url is when we grab the translated po files and merge them | |
| 13:37 | not when pootle grabs the latest strings | |
| 13:37 | caroline | oh ok |
| 13:37 | ashimema | as for announce.. I've never totally tied it all together |
| 13:37 | we announce when we're ready.. as if by magic the strings get updated some time | |
| 13:38 | caroline | cait and I have had trouble getting in touch with bernardo for the 22.11 manual too |
| 13:38 | magnuse | ah magic, that explains it ;-) |
| 13:38 | caroline | lol! |
| 13:38 | ashimema | I've been trying to wrap my head around i for literally years.. |
| 13:38 | there are so many issues with our translations workflow that need fixing | |
| 13:41 | magnuse | i think string freeze means no more patches that affect strings are accepted? then po files should be updated from the code and pootle should be updated, so there is time for translating before the release? but not sure how things *actually* work... |
| 13:42 | but now i have some moules to frit :-) | |
| 13:45 | ashimema | exactly magnuse |
| 13:45 | that how it all should work | |
| 13:49 | tcohen | hi all |
| 13:49 | marcelr | o/ |
| 13:49 | tcohen | hola marcelr |
| 13:49 | mtj: have you tried koha-dpkg-docker? we are having an issue with 22.11 builds | |
| 13:50 | the command is: docker run --volume=/home/tcohen/git/koha:/koha --volume=/home/tcohen/tmp/debs:/debs --volume /proc:/proc --privileged --env VERSION="22.11.04" --env RELEASE="22.11" koha/koha-dpkg:master | |
| 14:10 | cait | sorry, not really here today, if it was something important please repeat :) |
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| 14:44 | kohaio[m] | Hello there ! |
| 14:45 | cait | hi kohaio |
| 14:47 | kohaio[m] | We're currently migrating our OPAC solution to KOHA, and i'm a bit stuck with the API usage. Is someone familiar with the koha api endpoints? |
| 14:47 | cait | if you ask a more specific question someone might jump in |
| 14:47 | (not me probably... but maybe) | |
| 14:48 | kohaio[m] | :) |
| 14:49 | I'm trying to use the items api endpoint so that we can search in the KOHA library from another solution, but the expected params are pretty unclear to me | |
| 14:49 | especially the q (query) one, not sure about the format expected | |
| 14:50 | cait | tcohen: paulderscheid[m] kidclamp maybe? |
| 14:51 | paulderscheid[m] | The query param is pretty well explained here |
| 14:51 | https://api.koha-community.org/ kohaio | |
| 14:51 | cait | there is al little bit here, but no example I think; https://api.koha-community.org[…]ltering-responses |
| 14:51 | ah sorry, there is one :) | |
| 14:51 | paulderscheid[m] | What exactly are you trying to achieve kohaio ? |
| 14:52 | kohaio[m] | i have tried, based on the documentation but it keep returning some "malformated query string" |
| 14:52 | kidclamp | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]T_API_Users_Guide |
| 14:52 | paulderscheid[m] | What's your query? |
| 14:52 | kohaio[m] | not sure how to build properly the array format expected :D |
| 14:52 | paulderscheid[m] | Can you give us an example you tried? |
| 14:53 | kohaio[m] | sure, for example this one : /api/v1/items?q[field]=title&q[value]=xxx&q[type]=contains&_per_page=10&_order_by=relevance&fields=id,title,author |
| 14:53 | cait | it#s not working like the OPAC |
| 14:53 | kohaio[m] | also tried with q[0][field]=title |
| 14:54 | paulderscheid[m] | You have to restructure that like a JSON object. |
| 14:54 | cait | i mean the relevenace sorting |
| 14:55 | kohaio[m] | also tried using body json format, but still stuck, do you have a simple example of expected json structure? |
| 14:55 | paulderscheid[m] | No, in the query itself |
| 14:55 | * paulderscheid[m] | sent a code block: https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]rSbVAwuiBKhCtbZfX |
| 14:56 | paulderscheid[m] | * ````... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]yPolPFBRvpubqMSst>) |
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| 14:57 | paulderscheid[m] | or... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]ucvFoTkInnZDjKAkI>) |
| 14:58 | Although I think the "type":"contains" doesn't belong in there | |
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| 15:00 | kohaio[m] | Thanks Paul for your proposals, i have tried the two solutions from the URL parameters and using raw json but it gives me an error, but that should be something like that :) |
| 15:01 | paulderscheid[m] | Yeah, sorry I just blindly converted it |
| 15:05 | Here's a super simple example for an OR query... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]kFzBbpANNwgwidvHf>) | |
| 15:05 | I have to relearn this every time I use it ^^ | |
| 15:08 | And of course you can also use that in the request body | |
| 15:09 | kohaio[m] | Thanks for your clear example :) I'll try in the body to see i can go with more complicated ones :) |
| 15:09 | paulderscheid[m] | Always happy to help. |
| 15:10 | and spread fake news sometimes :D | |
| 15:10 | kohaio[m] | :D |
| 15:18 | reiveune | bye |
| 15:18 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 15:19 | tcohen | paulderscheid[m]: did you make any progress with the q_ccl bug? |
| 15:19 | that would make the endpoint more useful | |
| 15:20 | paulderscheid[m] | I had no time to work on it so caroline and her devs took over |
| 15:20 | caroline | tcohen, hammat tried but I think he had questions |
| 15:20 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=25870#c34 | |
| 15:20 | huginn | 04Bug 25870: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.derscheid, ASSIGNED , Add a q_ccl query parameter to /biblios |
| 15:24 | tcohen | Joubu: do you know why Selenium auth is fragile? |
| 15:24 | what breaks it | |
| 15:42 | cait | tcohen: and I put it in the QA email this week that Hammat had questions... |
| 15:43 | just noone has replied to his questions yet I think? | |
| 15:47 | tcohen | cait: see? I asked about selenium and got no answer either |
| 15:48 | cait | true true.. |
| 15:48 | but I don't know the answer | |
| 16:05 | cait left #koha | |
| 16:06 | liliputech | bye |
| 16:11 | ashimema | cait |
| 16:11 | bug 33574 has a patch now | |
| 16:11 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33574 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Restriction type is not stored, all restrictions fall back to MANUAL |
| 16:14 | oleonard | tcohen++ |
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| 16:35 | Nathan | Hi. We're planning on setting up Koha on cloud based server. What cloud based server provider is recommendable? |
| 17:38 | cait joined #koha | |
| 17:58 | paulderscheid[m] | Depends where your live Nathan |
| 17:59 | s/your/you/ | |
| 18:08 | caroline | cait are you around? |
| 18:49 | cait | kind of |
| 18:49 | caroline: | |
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| 18:50 | caroline | cait, it's not urgent... I was just wondering how you handled translations when stuff is added in database updates |
| 18:51 | The installation file is translated, but if something is put directly in the DB, it doesn't go through the installation file | |
| 18:56 | cait | what we do is run an sQL script with updates |
| 18:57 | so I translate these and then we run our own SQL statements after Koha is done with the update | |
| 18:57 | not integrated into the web installer just as an additional step to our upgrade process | |
| 18:58 | at least for the one s that will appear as changes directly after update - for features libraries need to activate separately we can still fix later | |
| 19:01 | caroline | ok thanks... I'm going through all the dv_revs right now to find all the letters, authorized values, etc. and adding them to a separate sql file |
| 19:01 | it's the first time I do this, we usually catch them afterwards when clients complain | |
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| 20:12 | cait | caroline: I like to avoid the compaints when I can :) |
| 20:18 | caroline | definitely a better course of action :) |
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| 22:21 | Nathan | I'm in the Philippines Paul |
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| 23:00 | aleisha | hello |
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| 23:52 | thomas63[m] | hi there... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]aYCRXyQIJCpNaXJxA>) |
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