IRC log for #koha, 2023-04-11

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06:09 * magnuse waves from 127.0.0.1
06:11 * dcook waves to magnuse
06:15 magnuse kia ora dcook
06:16 see you in marseille next year? :-)
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06:17 magnuse kia ora cait
06:19 dcook magnuse: We can hope although it sounds like a lot of people got sick this time around? :(
06:19 magnuse yeah, it did
06:22 but not until the end of the hackfest ;-)
06:22 cait there is always a risk now when people come together... but it was still a great week
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06:25 reiveune hello
06:25 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:25 ashimema Morning
06:26 * ashimema is home too now
06:27 cait how was your vacation? :)
06:29 ok brb
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06:40 magnuse bonjour ashimema
06:41 * cait waves
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07:12 Joubu @later tell tcohen we actually need a pre-push hook for RM to tell them to run yarn install when package.json is modified (and commit yarn.lock if not done yet)
07:12 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:13 ashimema nice idea Joubu
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08:59 ashimema cait++ #QA Machine
09:03 cait heh :)
09:04 magnuse wow cait++
09:05 cait ... now imagine what I could have done without my souvenir from Marseille...
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09:28 ashimema @later tell mtj are packages built from tags or branches?.. I'm thinking 22.11.04
09:28 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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09:51 TriveniChandriki[m] good afternoon
09:52 when i am runing fines.pl
09:52 i am facing this issue
09:52 * TriveniChandriki[m] uploaded an image: (75KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]kwzYvvw/image.png >
09:54 uploaded an image: (440KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]mUQtTcd/image.png >
09:54 TriveniChandriki[m] this is log file
09:54 please help me on this
09:56 cait trivenichandriki don't export the variables, run the script as the koha user
09:56 sudo koha-shell instance
09:56 the link to koha-conf.xml is not found, that has the db connection information
10:00 TriveniChandriki[m] i am doing git installation
10:01 this client i am facing issue. other client working properly
10:05 cait then you probably have an issue with the paths
10:06 TriveniChandriki[m] This one different system aslo testing. Same problem
10:06 In data any issues is there
10:23 cait I don't run things in a git installation - I can't help you more than that
10:23 I think the paths are probably wrong
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10:45 oleonard o/
10:47 cait hi oleonard :)
10:52 TriveniChandriki[m] <cait> "I don't run things in a git..." <- Ok
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12:07 paulderscheid[m] Are you there oleonard ?
12:07 oleonard yes
12:07 paulderscheid[m] Do you want to check out penpot?
12:08 oleonard I was planning to
12:08 paulderscheid[m] I have an instance running for testing. I'll dm you the creds
12:09 oleonard Oh cool, thanks!
12:09 ashimema Nice
12:10 paulderscheid[m] You want one too ashimema ?
12:10 ashimema still catching up on all the things at the minute so best not let myself get distracted
12:10 paulderscheid[m] Alright
12:10 ashimema but at some point maybe 😉
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12:26 cait similar for me... not getting distracted
12:31 paulderscheid[m] I'm still adjusting the infrastructure anyway. When setup properly there'll probably be an email registration.
12:32 cait thx paulderscheid[m]
12:32 paulderscheid++
12:32 ashimema bug 22276 and friends
12:32 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add client storage of user-selected DataTables configuration
12:33 ashimema do we want to just outright enable stateSave for all datatables.. or require we set it?
12:33 * ashimema is looking at moving the code to centralise it a bit
12:38 paulderscheid[m] This is a useful feature but I think enabling it by default may lead to confusion for some users.
12:38 ashimema mmm
12:39 that worried me slightly too
12:40 paulderscheid[m] On the other hand one could argue that the tables are straightforward enough in ergonomics to easily set it how you want it again.
12:40 ashimema I'm tempted to only require 'stateSave: true' and do the rest internally though.. rather than require devs to add all the other bits for each table themselves
12:40 also true
12:41 paulderscheid[m] I see your point.
12:41 ashimema I think the bit that surprised me here was I initially thought it was just about columns
12:41 reading the datatables page is appears to save more.. like the current filter/search and things?
12:41 and pagination.
12:41 paulderscheid[m] Yeah
12:42 cait if you jump back and forth from the page (a lot of people don't use tabs) that would proably be nice?
12:42 ashimema that could be more confusing
12:42 mmm
12:42 I understand your point cait
12:42 well
12:42 I'll stick a patch somewhere and people can adopt it and take it forward
12:43 paulderscheid[m] I think cait has a great point there. If you navigate in a single tab, the stateSave would be insanely useful.
12:43 ashimema another option.. only enable it where table_settings is passed?
12:44 cait yes, maybe
12:44 paulderscheid[m] That sounds like a logical approach.
12:45 cait although for some tables it could still be super useful
12:45 hm we can start there and still extend I guess 'on demand' :)
12:45 Joubu it's awful IMO. If you search for something and find it, click, go navigate, etc. Then come back again (even the day after), the table will be displayed filtered, sorted, etc. like it was before
12:45 paulderscheid[m] It's rather useful in a single session.
12:45 Joubu at least please let me disable it globally :D
12:46 'on demand' is also awful
12:46 ashimema lol
12:46 Joubu some tables will be configured like that and others not?
12:46 cait i meant we could make the feature broader if people ask for it
12:46 ashimema I've created a hornets nest
12:46 cait ok, so maybe we just keep the columns?
12:46 Joubu 1 bug report per table we have in Koha?
12:46 paulderscheid[m] Haha
12:46 cait Joubu: ashimema was working ons omething globally i think
12:46 ashimema yeah.. it's the one bug per table that was annoying me Joubu
12:47 but I get your point also about making it optional to the end user somehow
12:47 Joubu yes, that's why I am not against an implementation that will "do it for all" (if we can disable it :D)
12:47 paulderscheid[m] I like the idea of having my table states saved during a session. When I log in the next day I'd expect everything to be reset.
12:47 That'd be my expectation of that feature.
12:48 ashimema I really shouldn't have let myself get distracted by this
12:48 Joubu ashimema: yes please, do it :D
12:48 at least to avoid 1 bug per table! :)
12:55 ashimema hmm
12:55 did anyone test this works as is.. now I dig through the code it doesn't look quite right
12:56 we appear to expect the columns_settings form still rather than the table_settings for we switched to
13:02 Joubu bug 27467 is the way :D
13:02 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Provide a static URL for tables
13:03 ashimema 🙂
13:03 that does similar does it not?
13:05 Joubu it modifies the url, so the back button will work as expected
13:06 and it keeps the column filtering (there is a dedicated patch for that so I guess the implementation we pushed recently does not do that)
13:07 ashimema the patch we pushed is a bit half way
13:07 it does more that I think it says on the box
13:07 it uses saveState to do the column stuff
13:07 but it also expects you to set saveState so has side effects..
13:08 looking at the docs.. I'm not sure if we actually need to set saveState.. it looks like since 1.11. datatables stores it regardless and only uses it if set to true
13:08 thus we could grab from the stored variable regardless..
13:08 what dt are we on these days?
13:10 Joubu 1.10.18
13:10 ashimema darn
13:10 so we do need it
13:19 caroline good morning!
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13:26 cait hi caroline :)
13:27 Joubu tcohen: about the cypress failure Koha_Master/2471 - this is (again) a random one. I don't recreate it right now locally, but I have seen similar one
13:27 it happens in AfterAll (when we are click outside the Vue app), and it's removed by bug 32983
13:27 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32983 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs documenting , Use REST API route to retrieve authorised values
13:28 Joubu it's not that one...
13:28 bug 33408
13:28 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Fetch sysprefs from svc/config/systempreferences
13:28 Joubu I would not spend time on it before we have 33408 pushed to master
13:28 also for PedroAmorim[m] ^^
14:06 ashimema bug 33484
14:06 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33484 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Generalise table saveState for all tables
14:16 tcohen +1
14:19 ashimema though I agree with Joubu's fears.. enabling it by default for all could be really rather jarring
14:19 I wish we could just get the column handling without enabling all the rest.. maybe make the other state stuff more optional
14:20 it would be trivial with dt 1.11.. but needs some extra wrapper code for our version ☹️
14:41 paulderscheid[m] I think I can finally appreciate the Koha::Objects implementation 🥳 First time I actually went through the whole thing.
15:20 reiveune bye
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15:40 tcohen Joubu: no yarn.lock changes with yarn install
15:40 ashimema: worth a try?
15:40 paulderscheid[m]: great!
15:41 ashimema ?
15:57 cait hm any Elasticserach experts aruond?
15:57 I am updating some training materials we have... and have some questions
15:58 like: any index: Zebre: full record. Elasticsearch: ?
15:58 From testing I think it's only "What is indexed somehow", but not completely sure
16:01 kidclamp: ping? :)
16:01 paulderscheid[m]: ping? :)
16:03 paulderscheid[m] What do you want to achieve. I'm 4 sure no expert, btw :D
16:09 caroline cait, I'm not an expert either, but from the behaviour I observed, yes "everything" in ES is "everything that is indexed". So if a subfield is not indexed in a specific index, it will never show up in search
16:19 kidclamp Unless you change the format for es records to searchable array
16:19 Then you can have full search again
16:19 Otherwise we store compiled Marc
16:22 cait is it recommended to do one or theother?
16:22 kidclamp++ also :)
16:22 paulderscheid[m]: understanding mostly - I am giving training next week and they are using Elasticsearch, but we don't yet :)
16:22 kidclamp One takes less space
16:22 cait so have to learn myself
16:23 kidclamp: what do you use?
16:23 kidclamp Marc unless someone asks
16:23 The other gives you the ability to query specific Marc Fields as well
16:24 cait hm so without the index... i coudl do a marc field search?
16:24 i mean without having a specific index defined
16:24 i could tell it to search marc xxx
16:24 ?
16:27 kidclamp: ^
16:28 kidclamp Yeah, I don't know the exact syntax, but can find later
16:28 Or look the at Marc search plugin we have
16:28 cait can you maybe point me to it?
16:29 to the plugin
16:30 kidclamp https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]-opac-marc-search
16:30 cait thank you kidclamp :)
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20:37 cait hm the ERM module seems broken :(
20:37 I have git pulled, ktd pulled
20:37 and the tables are not showing
20:38 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: currentRenderingInstance is null
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20:47 Joubu yarn build?
20:47 well, should have been run by ktd startup
20:48 if you have /kohadevbox/koha/node_modules, then you need to either remove it, or run `yarn install`
20:48 cait i did that
20:48 and shut down my ktd twice now
20:48 i just posted the errors in full on bug 33066
20:48 huginn 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , We need a KohaTable Vue component
20:48 cait I#ll try yarn instal
20:50 you were right, that fixed it
20:52 Joubu it's easier to remove the node_modules directory and let ktd does the things for you
20:53 cait I'll try to do that next time
20:55 thx for the help :)
20:56 Joubu++
20:57 back on the aliases now
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