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| 03:16 | mtj | TriveniChandriki[m]: https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]nYuyMBv/image.png |
| 03:16 | ^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap' to a number greater than zero | |
| 03:18 | ..else your item's maximum fine will always be zero? | |
| 03:22 | TriveniChandriki[m] | Ok sir |
| 03:23 | Tqsm sir ur helping me lot. You are great sir | |
| 04:18 | mtj | you are welcome 🧁 |
| 04:20 | dcook_: that strange devscripts problem got fixed in bookworm, with libsoap-lite-perl_1.27-3 | |
| 04:21 | the dep for libossp-uuid-perl got dropped | |
| 04:25 | https://packages.debian.org/bo[…]libsoap-lite-perl | |
| 04:26 | ^ manually installing that pkg, should fix the devscripts conflict | |
| 04:27 | TriveniChandriki[m] | Ok sir |
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| 07:29 | NikolayGospodinov[m] | Hello, everyone. When I create a child record from a parent record. In the child record I see who is the parent. Is there a way to see who the children are from the parent record? |
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| 07:36 | alex_ | Bonjour |
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| 08:00 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 08:28 | TriveniChandriki[m] | <mtj> "^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap..." <- Done it sir. For this we have to do fine.pl one line is there exist we have comment that line. It will show overdue book fine in patron account. |
| 08:28 | <mtj> "^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap..." <- Again thanku so much sir | |
| 08:30 | #koha thanku everyone many issues fixing for urs suggestions | |
| 09:10 | cait1 | check your circulation rules |
| 09:10 | the fines cap is the max fine that can be put on an item | |
| 09:10 | and make sure you have entered all with a decimal dot (not a comma) | |
| 09:17 | TriveniChandriki[m] | <cait1> "the fines cap is the max fine..." <- Fine.pl file we have to change sir. It's working now. |
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| 10:50 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 10:50 | kidclamp++ | |
| 10:50 | ashimema | morning tcohen |
| 10:53 | tcohen | hey ashimema |
| 10:53 | jenkins is green \o/ | |
| 10:53 | ashimema | I saw.. great work dude! |
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| 11:34 | tcohen | next meeting |
| 11:35 | next meeting? | |
| 11:35 | next meetings? | |
| 11:49 | who manages huggin? | |
| 11:49 | ashimema | galen I think |
| 11:50 | tcohen | gmcharlt: |
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| 12:38 | marcelr | o/ |
| 12:38 | tcohen | \o |
| 12:38 | caroline | good morning! |
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| 13:13 | emlam | Morning everyone! |
| 13:13 | * cait1 | waves |
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| 13:39 | caroline | My brain needs help with holds... |
| 13:40 | If OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup is set to Don't allow and circulation rules allow on-shelf holds only if at least one is unavailable | |
| 13:41 | (i.e. we don't want people making on-shelf holds if the copy at their library is available, they can only place holds if the copy at their library is out) | |
| 13:41 | (if that makes sense) | |
| 13:42 | would those settings be right? | |
| 13:43 | Right now, if OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup is set to Don't allow and onshelf holds to if any unavailable, and I have a record with one copy checked out and one copy available, the person at the branch where it is available can place a hold for pickup at their own library | |
| 13:44 | that is a bug right? | |
| 13:54 | cait1 | let me re-read this |
| 13:55 | it sounds like a bug | |
| 13:55 | it should not allow a hold on the available at branch one in any case | |
| 13:55 | of onshelf holds | |
| 13:55 | because it's pickup branch = item on shelf | |
| 13:55 | caroline | thanks, it's so convoluted my brain is refusing to process it hehe |
| 13:55 | cait1 | did you check if the available item can actually fill that hold? |
| 13:56 | caroline | You mean if I place the hold, will it appear on Hold tu pull? |
| 13:56 | cait1 | just to make sure there is no interferring rule or setting |
| 13:56 | it would make sens eif the system thinks you will get the other item | |
| 13:56 | i think if you return the other and it triggers the hold | |
| 13:57 | hm no | |
| 13:57 | return the available one... and it fills the hold, it should be | |
| 13:57 | caroline | If on-shelf holds is set to 'Yes', the patron cannot place the hold on the copy from their library |
| 13:57 | mtj | hi JacobOMara[m], i think i spotted a bug with a cherry-picked commit on 22.11 |
| 13:57 | https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]2b897d2a2e5450f98 | |
| 13:58 | ashimema | fire away mtj |
| 13:58 | I caught it go in in the wrong order.. | |
| 13:59 | but I've since backported the css removal stuff.. so hopefully I got it back to working | |
| 13:59 | mtj | ah, ok |
| 13:59 | ashimema | or are there still some issues? |
| 13:59 | cait1 | just a followup to yesterday's questio from perplexedtheta: is it possible to build 22.11.03 packages locally right now? or is there some general issues and better wait for 22.11.04? |
| 14:00 | mtj | hi cait1, i think its possible |
| 14:00 | ashimema | it should be possible.. but easier with .04 once it's out |
| 14:00 | our build actually has some extra backports and I think it's possibly those that have been causing us issues here. | |
| 14:01 | our last 22.11.ptfs build built though. | |
| 14:01 | but it has a custom commit at the top | |
| 14:01 | I'm about to rebase i on current 22.11.x to check it without that extra final commit | |
| 14:02 | cait1 | hm so maybe we'll have a go, but don't spend a loto f time on fixing if we run into problems |
| 14:02 | mtj | ashimema: i think 22.11.x still needs 587ab3d applied |
| 14:02 | 587ab3d) | |
| 14:03 | oops | |
| 14:03 | https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]8ff2b9369651b7a67 | |
| 14:03 | cait1 | .04 schedule for hackfest week still? |
| 14:03 | mtj | cait1: sounds good to me :) |
| 14:03 | ashimema | yup |
| 14:04 | we're going to go through the process together.. see if there's anything to refine/improve | |
| 14:06 | lol | |
| 14:06 | you're commit message and then the patch seem like oposites to me.. haha | |
| 14:06 | mtj | 674 $file_map->{'koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/vue/dist/erm.js.LICENSE.txt'} = 'blib/INTRANET_TMPL_DIR/prog/js/vue/dist/erm.js.LICENSE.txt'; |
| 14:07 | ..in Makefile.PL, aah, so thats where the file comes from :) | |
| 14:07 | ashimema | LOL |
| 14:07 | that backport cherry-pick gave i completely different outcomes! | |
| 14:07 | wtf | |
| 14:09 | mtj | yeah, a bit weird |
| 14:10 | ashimema | OK.. I've re-cherry-picked it and it looks better this time |
| 14:10 | just checking with colleagues here that I'm not going to clash | |
| 14:14 | mtj | looks like the patch order for Makefile.PL was mixed-up on 22.11 |
| 14:14 | ashimema | yeah, it was |
| 14:14 | mtj | ..and some commits got accidentally squashed |
| 14:14 | ashimema | Jacob jumped the gun on teh follow-up.. |
| 14:14 | we'd opted not to backport the build stuff.. | |
| 14:14 | then he backported the follow-up from you | |
| 14:15 | at the time I didn't think it was a big deal.. | |
| 14:15 | then later I decided we should go ahead with backporting the build stuff.. to keep in line with master a bit better on the build front for this LTS release. | |
| 14:15 | and I think it was my second bit that screwed the pooch as it were | |
| 14:15 | hopefully all fixed now though. | |
| 14:15 | just pushed | |
| 14:16 | mtj | np, the Makefile.PL files look identical for master and 22.11 |
| 14:16 | ashimema | I've also had a chat to the team here about checking dependencies a little more carefully before back-porting.. i take full responsability.. bad teaching on my part 😜 |
| 14:16 | mtj | looks fixed :) |
| 14:17 | ashimema | takes a whilst to get up to speed on all these things.. I'm super happy with them as a team though.. they're munching through it all and keeping everything moving great :0 |
| 14:18 | I've also pushed our .ptfs branch rebased on this lot.. so that'll trigger the PTFS_22.11_D11 test run followed by a PTFS_22.11_BUILD run 🙂 | |
| 14:18 | which should prove this all works 🙂 | |
| 14:18 | do you autobuild packages somewhere? | |
| 14:18 | I have memory of that vaguelly | |
| 14:19 | we have it set up to only try and build the package if all the tests have passed on our branch first 🙂 | |
| 14:20 | doh.. looks like 22.11.x is failing tests at the minute for other reasons.. | |
| 14:20 | I best jump on that | |
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| 14:24 | perplexedtheta | o/ |
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| 15:22 | mtj | ashimema, perplexedtheta https://gitlab.com/mjames/koha-build-pkg |
| 15:23 | thats the pkg build scripts | |
| 15:24 | $ bash ./0-build-22.11.sh | |
| 15:28 | * mtj | apologies for its 'jazzy' style 🎷💨 |
| 15:31 | ashimema | Cool |
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| 15:33 | tundunf | hi all! |
| 15:36 | ashimema | Hi tundun |
| 15:57 | tundunf | quick q: is there any way to choose the number of items to pull in 'reservations to pull'? |
| 15:58 | cait1 | what do you mean by choose? |
| 15:59 | it shoudl tell you in "patrons with olds" (3rd column) how many items need pulling | |
| 15:59 | hm better: the first column "Pull this many items" | |
| 16:00 | tundunf | Ah ignore me! I was misreading the column headings. |
| 16:01 | we've been having issues with bib-level on-shelf reservations and I'm trying to convince colleagues to enable item-level reservations to curb this | |
| 16:02 | cait1 | maybe also have a look at the holds queue report as an alternative for a pick list |
| 16:02 | what type of issues have you seen with bib-level? | |
| 16:02 | we mostly do only bib-level holds i think, apart from serials | |
| 16:04 | perplexedtheta | Where I used to work, we did item-level reservations only and it was really effective at halting reservation clashes (we disallowed reservations on items on loan) |
| 16:04 | We only had one branch, and had no serials - only books and equipment | |
| 16:05 | Kilometerage will vary from library to library. But we had positive experience with it | |
| 16:06 | cait1 | it means you'll have to wait longer as a patron |
| 16:06 | hm or more: there might be a clash of terminology here | |
| 16:06 | reservations sometimes means holds and other times it's bookings on available things | |
| 16:07 | if all items of a handbook I need are checked out, the record level will be the quickest way to get me whatever item | |
| 16:07 | perplexedtheta | Ah, en-GB: reservation == hold |
| 16:07 | cait1 | especially with students it's often hard to tell who will return an item first, even if you see the due date |
| 16:07 | and then there is reserves too... | |
| 16:07 | so we probably should check first we talk about the same use cases lol | |
| 16:08 | tundunf | the main problem is that when a reservation is placed on a book with multiple copies, other users aren't available to loan copies on the shelf until the reservation is satisfied. |
| 16:08 | cait1 | that's configuration |
| 16:09 | I belive you can change that so they can still be checked out | |
| 16:09 | tundunf | ah I see, I'll review our settings! thank you |
| 16:09 | cait1 | looking for it, give me a moment |
| 16:10 | there this one for not blockign renewals: AllowRenewalIfOtherItemsAvailable | |
| 16:11 | i clearly remember the discussion about the user that already has the item in the cart... | |
| 16:11 | and that checkout shsould be allowed then - did you verify it really blocks? | |
| 16:11 | ah here: AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO | |
| 16:12 | AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSIP | |
| 16:12 | tundunf | Thank you - I'll have a look! |
| 16:12 | cait1 | i think the in the staff interface Koha just asks what you want to do and you can check it out |
| 16:12 | you are welcome, bbl #koha :) | |
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| 16:19 | ashimema | is there not also an override permission or preference or something cait1? |
| 16:29 | tundunf | It just blocked me from checking out a copy of a book on the shelf with a reservation on it and I can see that the AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSIP was set to "Don't allow", I've switched this to Allow and was able to check out a book at a self-service kiosk |
| 16:30 | Thanks for your help both, I don't know how I missed that syspref :) | |
| 16:31 | ashimema | There's a lot of prefs out there, glad you found it tundunf |
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| 17:32 | tcohen | PedroAmorim[m]: how did you find the error? |
| 17:33 | PedroAmorim[m] | was implementing new routes and was having trouble so I ran the swagger-cli validate to fix my own errors |
| 17:33 | after I fixed mine, ran it again and stumbled upon it | |
| 17:37 | tcohen | in this particular case, I'm not sure we can solve it in a good way |
| 17:38 | with OpenAPIv2 | |
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| 18:11 | fridolin | hellow |
| 18:11 | PedroAmorim[m] | hi |
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| 18:12 | caroline | I have a notice/tt question |
| 18:12 | Riccardo | Hello, I am writing to request assistance with the design and implementation of a digital library using the controlled digital lending (CDL) system with Koha as the library management software. I am interested in using Koha to manage our digital collections and to provide access to our patrons through CDL. However, I am not familiar with the technical aspects of the CDL system and would appreciate any guidance or support in implementing this system. |
| 18:12 | caroline | There is this line in ACCOUNT_CREDIT |
| 18:12 | [%- PROCESS credit_type_description credit_type = credit.credit_type | |
| 18:12 | -%] | |
| 18:13 | the notice doesn't print the credit_type_description in French, even though it is translated in accounts.inc | |
| 18:13 | where is it taking it if not there? | |
| 18:15 | emlam | I think there's a page in the Administration module where debit/credit types can be specified like authorized values - maybe it's pulling it from there? |
| 18:16 | caroline | I translated it there too and it's still showing up in English on the notice |
| 18:17 | Riccardo, if I understand correctly, CDL is basically like lending books, but digital files? I would say to catalog them as records with items like you would for print and check those "items" out | |
| 18:27 | Riccardo | No i need a professional system that control that book's file is unusefull at the end of lending. |
| 18:28 | caroline | as far as I know, Koha doesn't do that |
| 18:31 | Riccardo | Ok! Any one know how to do it? Cost and if it's applicable to a little school library? |
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