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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 05:22 | tuxayo | mtj: "2nd-hand thinkpad t420s are $10-ish US": you mean like for 10$??? |
| 05:40 | You found quite a beefy T420 with a 2670QM CPU. When I bought mine it I got a 2520M, the quad cores where quite more expensive and rarer than the 2 core 4 thread I got. And there where a lot of T420 with low power CPUs which might not be different enough from a raspberry pi. Still one with a 2520M is x1.75 single thread and x2.1 for multithread. | |
| 05:42 | Crazy that my CPU isn't so far ahead as I though from a RPi 4 | |
| 05:47 | Wait the RPi 4 you found is overclocked from 1.5 GHz to 2 GHz! | |
| 05:47 | So many gotchas with benchmarks! | |
| 05:48 | Anyway, great idea to get 2nd hand laptops (which non-low power CPUs) as servers. | |
| 05:48 | *with non-low power | |
| 06:46 | mtj | hi tuxayo, it was the only t420 at geekbench i could find |
| 06:49 | tuxayo | mtj: hi :) For some reason, thinkpads in geekbench don't have their well known names (t420) but more obscure model numbers like 42364F2 |
| 06:49 | mtj | yeah, probably how geekbench pulls/displays their model id |
| 06:50 | tuxayo | It guess it's the actual thinkpad model with this precise CPU. Since t420 is actually a family |
| 06:50 | mtj | yeah |
| 06:51 | i mention t420 as they are common and cheap, popular with government departments and corps | |
| 06:52 | easy to upgrade and get 3rd-party spares for | |
| 06:53 | t430, next series higher has sata3 | |
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| 06:55 | mtj | dell and hp has similar cheap models from the same era |
| 06:59 | tuxayo | > i mention t420 as they are common and cheap |
| 06:59 | indeed! | |
| 07:01 | > t430, next series higher has sata3 | |
| 07:01 | Actually my PC! my T420 got stollen... And only a T430 was at a reasonable price even like 3 years after. | |
| 07:01 | and if I change PC now, next series are actually hard to find with not a low power CPU, so the different won't be that much :( | |
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| 07:05 | mtj | we have some resellers in NZ, that seems to have an endless supply of t420s |
| 07:08 | * mtj | confesses to have a bunch of older thinkpads |
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| 08:39 | tuxayo | > that seems to have an endless supply of t420s |
| 08:39 | lol | |
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| 08:53 | alex_ | Bonjour |
| 09:10 | PedroAmorim[m] | morning |
| 09:11 | cait | ashimema: I ams orry, but the sandbox is dead http://sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/ |
| 09:19 | ashimema | yup |
| 09:36 | * mtj | waves \o |
| 09:38 | mtj | Joubu: i did have another look at your docker/apache error... its a crazy rabbithole 🐇 |
| 09:41 | one workaround might be to use an apache2 pkg - that allows to be run as root user | |
| 09:46 | the problem seems to be that all general gitlab runners, run with user as ID 0 (aka root) | |
| 09:47 | magnuse_ | should changes made in pootle be visible in the downloadable .po files immediately, or is there some delay? |
| 09:48 | cait | we just had the question on the mailing list |
| 09:48 | I actually don't know, but it#s possible they are only generated pre-releases or overnight | |
| 09:51 | magnuse_ | ah, thanks. that message sounds like no update for "a few days". maybe there is a problem there? i'll keep an eye on the list |
| 09:52 | cait | maybe they only update for releases |
| 09:52 | mtj | magnuse_: curious.. have you recently done some translations on pootle? |
| 09:52 | cait | you might want to try and email bgkriegel directly |
| 09:53 | magnuse_ | mtj: yeah, i did a little bit on both swedish and norwegian |
| 09:53 | mtj | i wondered if the 'Last action:' value was updated... |
| 09:54 | magnuse_ | mtj: yes, it show me as the last person to edit |
| 09:54 | mtj | https://translate.koha-communi[…].05/sv-SE-pref.po |
| 09:54 | magnuse_ | yup |
| 09:56 | mtj | hmm, how to download a .po.. |
| 09:56 | magnuse_ | https://translate.koha-communi[…]/export/22.05/sv/ |
| 09:56 | for example | |
| 09:59 | mtj | hmm, looks like some cronjob, or a manually run job hey? |
| 10:00 | .looking at those file timestamps | |
| 10:02 | magnuse_ | yes, that looks quite likely |
| 10:02 | all the norwegian files are last modified "2023-02-18 00:00" | |
| 10:03 | there german ones have different dates: https://translate.koha-communi[…]/export/22.05/de/ | |
| 10:06 | mtj | surely a cronjob |
| 10:06 | every hour? :) | |
| 10:07 | hmm, it should have just run :/ | |
| 10:08 | Annelisterman[m] | I'm not sure, but I think the po files are updated once a day when there are changes to them. It looked like that when I updated the Finnish translations. |
| 10:12 | mtj | hi Annelisterman[m], that makes sense :) |
| 10:16 | ashimema | erm.. a large amount of the po files on pootle are just plain broken without manual work |
| 10:17 | I've been trying to get that sorted for ages.. right now the rmaints have to step in a do a tonne of fixes at release time | |
| 10:17 | just a heads up if your trying to use them in production and wondering why koha is majorly borked by them | |
| 10:18 | https://git.koha-community.org[…]518feafafe112ef9e is an example | |
| 10:18 | of what we do to fix them | |
| 11:01 | mtj | ashimema: oof, do you think its possible to automate a po. fixup? |
| 11:02 | ashimema | the real solution is to have the fixes that the rmaints have made back into pootle.. but catching bernardo is rather difficult it seems. |
| 11:02 | the plural handling i doesn't seem to be very good in pootle. | |
| 11:03 | I'd be interested in automating, or even just blocking at source, the mistakes in variable names being translated | |
| 11:03 | there are a few issues mixed into it really | |
| 11:03 | mtj | yeap, i see that |
| 11:04 | ashimema | I wonder if switching to another translation software might be a good idea too.. pootle seems to be abandonware |
| 11:04 | weblate seems to be the preferred option now | |
| 11:05 | mtj | perhaps we get a backup person for bernardo |
| 11:05 | ashimema | I think we've tried a few times |
| 11:05 | it's always the same few volunteering from the pool of people 😜 | |
| 11:06 | I've even tried it.. I have access to the server.. but I just don't have time to get up to speed on how pootle fits together | |
| 11:08 | tcohen | hola #koha o/ |
| 11:09 | mtj | weblate looks promising |
| 11:10 | hi tcohen \o | |
| 11:11 | tcohen | the main problem with pootle is that we haven't ever documented how to do things |
| 11:11 | and is aging as well | |
| 11:14 | Joubu: I've got a response from hte Mojo plugin maintainer: it is not designed to validate twice and he didn't seem open to change that | |
| 11:31 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu, ashimema: do we want this in a short/mid term?" (20 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/1651 |
| 11:40 | ashimema | seems fairly sane to me |
| 11:41 | tcohen | so in that case I think I'll provide a follow-up to the bug, and once reviewed we can push |
| 11:42 | it is what I pasted (for the future) or a more complex way for plugins to do their own routes and make the UI use them | |
| 11:43 | ashimema (and everyone): please read my last comment on bug 32981 | |
| 11:43 | huginn | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32981 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Passed QA , Add REST API endpoint to list authorised values for a given category |
| 11:43 | tcohen | it is a terminology question, I think we need some refinement iteration on that spec |
| 11:43 | thanks! | |
| 11:44 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:09 | Looks like patron attributes always show up as changed after the patron updates their own record in the OPAC | |
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| 12:53 | cait | oleonard-away: thanks :) |
| 13:44 | magnuse_ | there is no way to limit stars and comments to only librarians, right? |
| 13:44 | lukeg | Anyone want to have a look at my patch for 22.05.x here: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32505 ? |
| 13:44 | huginn | 04Bug 32505: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Cannot search by dateofbirth in specified dateformat |
| 13:45 | lukeg | I'd like a stamp of arroval before I push this, and I still would like to get this in before I make 22.05.10 |
| 14:27 | tcohen | Joubu++ |
| 14:27 | PedroAmorim[m]++ | |
| 14:35 | Joubu, ashimema available for a call? | |
| 14:42 | ashimema | I'm going into an Aspen call in a few mins |
| 14:42 | tcohen | oh, ok |
| 14:42 | ashimema | Well, assuming my laptop comes back to life.. it's just crashed hard on me |
| 14:43 | tcohen | we need to sort the avs terminology for good |
| 14:43 | and move those bugs | |
| 14:43 | ashimema | The Aspen call is average an hour |
| 14:43 | Can talk after | |
| 14:44 | Or you guys can meet without me | |
| 14:44 | tcohen | we need Joubu |
| 14:44 | I wouldn't like to wait for the next dev meeting | |
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| 16:41 | PedroAmorim[m] | part of 32981 and 32997 certainly overlap a bit in functionality imo, i.e. having an endpoint that retrieves values of a given single AV category vs. an endpoint that retrieves values for multiple given AV categories, including a single one if just one category_name is given |
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| 18:32 | RuP | Hi |
| 18:41 | * cait | waves |
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| 21:27 | caroline_catlady | davidnind around? |
| 21:36 | caroline | @later tell davidnind can you check the manual pipeline errors? It stopped working again, and I suspect it's the same problem (although I'm not sure why it worked for a while and stopped) |
| 21:36 | huginn | caroline: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:38 | caroline | does anyone on the docs team have a setup for EDIFACT? There is ONE remaining screenshot to update in the Acquisitions chapter and it's the last one https://koha-community.org/man[…]#edifact-messages |
| 21:39 | Wouldn't it be grand to have a whole chapter DONE? :D | |
| 21:54 | cait | caroline: ah hey, you are here :) |
| 21:54 | caroline | yes! |
| 21:54 | hi! | |
| 21:55 | cait | mine looks like that: https://snipboard.io/hrB09j.jpg |
| 21:55 | (sorry no EDIFACT) | |
| 21:55 | caroline | Well, that's good at least |
| 21:55 | cait | yeah, but why is yours broken? |
| 21:56 | i didn't fix that | |
| 21:56 | only made the button yellow | |
| 21:56 | are you using ktd? | |
| 21:56 | caroline | No I have a git thing where I pull to update it |
| 21:56 | cait | hm could you try yarn buliding? |
| 21:57 | caroline | I tried before commenting but it gave me errors... let me try agian |
| 21:58 | cait | we are no longer shipping the yarn files - maybe that's the difference because in git you need to do htat manually? but mostly guessing |
| 21:58 | caroline | I thought the master had the builds though? |
| 21:58 | cait | no |
| 21:58 | they are no longer in the repository - but ktd builds them for you (is what I understood) | |
| 21:59 | tcohen: maybe around? | |
| 21:59 | caroline | Ok it says success... but the field is still misaligned... :/ |
| 21:59 | Anyway, if it works for you, it's good enough for me | |
| 22:00 | The screenshot in the manual will be wonky however | |
| 22:02 | Are you sure you didn't correct it? I applied your patch and it's aligned now | |
| 22:03 | cait | hm pretty sure I didnt |
| 22:03 | only added some classes | |
| 22:03 | maybe it did cache something that is gone now? | |
| 22:03 | caroline | maybe... although I'm pretty sure I did Ctrl+F5 |
| 22:03 | cait | does it stay fixed? |
| 22:04 | if you reload and all? | |
| 22:04 | caroline | let me sign off and I'll reset to see |
| 22:04 | cait | do you think "part of text" will work as context for "Quotes" |
| 22:05 | caroline | as opposed to "price submission" for example? |
| 22:05 | cait | yeah |
| 22:05 | different words in german | |
| 22:05 | caroline | makes sense |
| 22:05 | cait | or maybe "citation"? |
| 22:06 | caroline | let me check what our friend webster says |
| 22:06 | a passage, a saying | |
| 22:07 | https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quote | |
| 22:07 | cait | citation shows up in the synonyms |
| 22:08 | caroline | citation is fine with me! (it's the french word hehe) |
| 22:08 | cait | there is no mention of the other meaning |
| 22:08 | written offer maybe? | |
| 22:09 | caroline | There is 3a to state the current price or bid-offer |
| 22:09 | cait | oh |
| 22:09 | I am not finding it | |
| 22:10 | where is that? | |
| 22:10 | caroline | https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quote |
| 22:10 | cait | .... ok, getting a little late |
| 22:10 | caroline | but under nous, it refers to quotation |
| 22:10 | the naming or publishing of current bids and offers or prices of securities or commodities | |
| 22:10 | I would context it as like "Price offer" or "price submission" | |
| 22:11 | cait | ok |
| 22:11 | caroline | where in Koha do we have quotes as in price bids? Is it new? |
| 22:12 | cait | EDIFACT |
| 22:12 | caroline | ah, it explains why I never saw it |
| 22:12 | cait | we don't use it either |
| 22:12 | (yet) | |
| 22:13 | caroline | I wonder if aude has some sort of set up... I know ashimema worked on EDIFACT things |
| 22:13 | (for my screenshot) | |
| 22:14 | cait | I know they have a lot of libraries using EDIFACT |
| 22:14 | sounds like a good idea :) | |
| 22:23 | out of interest: are quotes different things in french too? | |
| 22:37 | ashimema | Hello |
| 22:37 | * ashimema | reads been |
| 22:37 | ashimema | Been |
| 22:37 | Back | |
| 22:40 | Yeah, we have loads of EDI sites | |
| 22:40 | And quotes are a type of EDI message | |
| 22:41 | A quote becomes a basket, then the basket becomes and order and finally an invoice does the receipting | |
| 22:41 | At least that's my memory of it | |
| 22:42 | Must admit . I have to relearn EDI every time I have to dig into it again | |
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| 23:48 | frank_2 | Hi! |
| 23:49 | Is there a way to add the name of the currently logged in staff member to a slip? | |
| 23:49 | So patrons know who they were talking to. |
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