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| 02:47 | yetyunglungTimothy[m] | <cait1> "so it's normal you don't see the..." <- it's not.. Because it didn't send also after 15 minutes |
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| 06:02 | fridolin | hellow |
| 06:02 | release day is coming ... | |
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| 07:18 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:50 | cait1 | good morning #koha |
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| 08:02 | alex_ | Bonjour |
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| 08:04 | matts | hello ! |
| 08:09 | cait1 | hello matts |
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| 09:18 | Joubu | please QA bug 32269 |
| 09:18 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32269 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Circulation.t is failing randomly |
| 09:56 | magnuse | cait1: do you use bulkmarcimport.pl to import records from your union catalogue? have you seen something like bug 32332? |
| 09:56 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32332 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl -insert fails to add MARC field 999 |
| 09:57 | ashimema | she uses stage + commit scripts |
| 09:57 | magnuse ^ | |
| 09:57 | magnuse | ah, ok |
| 09:57 | ashimema | we use it here for our migrations.. but I've not heard of that issue |
| 10:00 | on it Joubu | |
| 10:00 | * ashimema | fits in a few QA's whilst the new devs are shadowing a sales demo |
| 10:01 | magnuse | ashimema++ |
| 10:11 | ashimema | cait around? |
| 10:26 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30233 is not accessible. |
| 10:47 | ashimema | Are you working on the Koha/Biblio.t test Joubu? |
| 10:47 | * ashimema | was about to take a look and didn't want to clash |
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| 10:57 | Joubu | ashimema: nope, I am off today |
| 11:03 | ashimema | okies.. enjoy your day then 🙂 |
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| 11:10 | ashimema | the git server feels a bit slow to me recently.. pulls take ages.. |
| 11:11 | anyone else noticed that? | |
| 11:59 | magnuse | ashimema: yeah, i thought the web interface was kind of slow the other day |
| 12:08 | cait1 | it is sometimes slow yes |
| 12:09 | and ashimema is right, we usually use stage/commit - but we use bulkmarcimprot for migrations - and I think others do too, so any bad bugs need to be killed | |
| 12:21 | ashimema | 🙂 |
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| 13:08 | matts | Speaking of bulkmarcimport, I think this is a major bug: Bug 18273 - Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates |
| 13:08 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18273 | |
| 13:08 | huginn` | 04Bug 18273: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Patch doesn't apply , Bulkmarcimport inserts authority duplicates |
| 13:08 | matts | It needs a quick rebase, but it didn't get any signoff at the time. |
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| 13:41 | kidclamp | ashimema++ |
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| 16:13 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:40 | cait1 | bye |
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| 18:12 | tuxayo | iutiut |
| 18:22 | finally I'm forced to change one of my last shitty passwords ^^" | |
| 18:28 | fridolin | tuxayo: yellow ;) |
| 18:29 | * fridolin | has a lot of "shame" passwords |
| 18:29 | tuxayo | fridolin: hi :) |
| 18:29 | fridolin | release day is comming right ? |
| 18:30 | cait[m] | yes |
| 18:33 | tuxayo | > release day is comming right ? |
| 18:33 | I guess. I'm catching up on 21.05.x for now. After that, no more RMaint for now and I'll be able to do QA even when it's hard to put time on Koha. for now, RMaint always came first. | |
| 18:37 | fridolin | "tempus fugit" they say :) |
| 18:45 | cait[m] | hate to say, but we are still short a Maint currently... |
| 18:50 | fridolin | sorry i really cant |
| 18:50 | cait[m] | that's ok frido |
| 18:50 | tuxayo | > we are still short a Maint currently |
| 18:50 | yes T_T | |
| 18:57 | We have 3 RMaints that can only put time on oldoldstable at best :( | |
| 18:58 | (Wainui, Arthur and me) | |
| 19:01 | cait[m] | we still have a few days to figure it out.. even if not that many |
| 20:11 | ashimema | I still have something up my sleeve, just have to corner the right people |
| 20:11 | cait[m] | corner them! :) |
| 20:12 | ashimema | Easier said than done at the moment.. I've basically been in back to back meetings for over a week now |
| 20:12 | cait[m] | ew |
| 20:12 | tuxayo | > just have to corner the right people |
| 20:12 | lol | |
| 20:13 | Worse case, oldstable could be treated like oldoldstable and not have much backports. | |
| 20:14 | not great, not terrible | |
| 20:14 | cait[m] | hm worst case we should drop the oldest I think |
| 20:14 | ashimema | By the time something gets to oldstable it really ought to be pretty stable |
| 20:15 | I've lost track.. this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts | |
| 20:16 | cait[m] | yes |
| 20:16 | and we got 3 | |
| 20:16 | ashimema | I've lost the plot on the scheme at this point |
| 20:16 | cait[m] | i've made a nice graphic in te wiki just yesterda |
| 20:16 | look for Koha versioning | |
| 20:16 | ashimema | So are you suggesting dropping the LTS if we don't have enough rmaints. |
| 20:16 | Lol | |
| 20:21 | I'm surprised we're naming our first lts as 22.11.. why not retrospectively assign one | |
| 20:21 | Anywho . That's not a conversation for now | |
| 20:22 | cait[m] | because that was voted on, i only made the edits |
| 20:22 | no, I mean dropping the oldes.t.. we are just starting now doing the first real lts i think | |
| 20:25 | ashimema | Erm.. I'm confused by your diagram |
| 20:26 | cait[m] | hmpf |
| 20:26 | ashimema | It appears to make all branches last 24 months |
| 20:26 | Not 18 | |
| 20:26 | cait[m] | no |
| 20:26 | we always maintain 4 | |
| 20:26 | three diagonal for normal | |
| 20:27 | we could probably the last | |
| 20:27 | drop the ast this time | |
| 20:27 | it woudl fit the new model | |
| 20:27 | ashimema | So why are we trying to support oldoldoldstable |
| 20:28 | If we're doing lts I don't believe we should do oldoldoldstable ever | |
| 20:28 | cait[m] | we could drop it - just was the idea proposed at some point to have always 4 |
| 20:28 | we won't | |
| 20:28 | there is a gap later | |
| 20:28 | ashimema | There is later |
| 20:31 | We dropped 19.11 last cycle didn't we | |
| 20:31 | cait[m] | sorry, only half here, playing online with a friend - we can check back on that tomorrow maybe? |
| 20:32 | ashimema | Would argue we should have retrospectively set 19.11 as lts as it nearly got there already anyway. Then that would have made your table work |
| 20:33 | cait[m] | you always got to start somewhere |
| 20:33 | ashimema | I think I argued against always doing 4.. we already struggle to get rmaints so all we've done is spread the community even thinner |
| 20:33 | Lol | |
| 20:33 | Mmm | |
| 20:34 | cait[m] | I had a model with 3 it was argued against |
| 20:34 | because it would have given less time for updates | |
| 20:45 | tuxayo | > this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts |
| 20:45 | wait, wasn't 21.11 going to be the 1st lts? So still 3 RMaint for a few cycles | |
| 20:46 | > i've made a nice graphic in te wiki just yesterda | |
| 20:46 | cait++ | |
| 20:47 | cait[m] | check the logs please - meeting logs are linked |
| 20:48 | tuxayo | ashimema: «So why are we trying to support oldoldoldstable» Because someone volunteered for. It's out of the old/current scheme and won't be in the new scheme with LTS. |
| 20:48 | It's a bonus. | |
| 20:49 | So having oldoldoldstable itsn't related to the LTS chances. | |
| 20:49 | *changes | |
| 20:50 | > this is a four rmaint cycle right.. lts | |
| 20:50 | So it's a 4 Rmaint cycle (when the 4th will be found ^^") but it's not related to LTS | |
| 20:54 | cait[m] | i guess we are in an 'in between' cycle |
| 20:54 | maybe they could be persuaded to move one version up? | |
| 21:00 | tuxayo | Arthur told me that they can't commit more than an oldoldstable load. Thus the "worst case" plan of treating oldstable as oldoldstable. For Wainui turns out I don't know if they couldn't commit to oldstable with the expect load. So maybe. |
| 21:00 | NZ Thu Nov 24 10:00:19 2022 NZDT | |
| 21:01 | no one from Catalyst around it seems | |
| 21:03 | cait[m] | wainui is from Catalyst? |
| 21:04 | ah noone around | |
| 21:12 | tuxayo | Yes wainui |
| 21:12 | is from Catalyst | |
| 21:12 | Ah it's spelled noone! | |
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| 21:13 | cait[m] | i missed oyur sentence, not sure about the spelling myself |
| 21:17 | tuxayo | Turns out both exist but not with the same acceptance, thus the confusion ^^" |
| 21:17 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/noone#Pronoun | |
| 21:17 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/no_one#English | |
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