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06:04 | Joubu | caroline: the DST problem on some dates should be fixed for a long time now, did you report the bug? |
06:06 | caroline: did you open a bug? | |
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07:39 | SupportLibrary[m] | Hello. I'm having a little difficulty with the ISBD view. When I change something in the view structure from the OPAC system settings, nothing in the bibliographic record view of the ISBD changes. |
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07:40 | reiveune | hello |
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07:57 | alex_ | Bonjour |
08:02 | ashimema | morning koha |
08:04 | SupportLibrary[m] | s/OPAC/Advanced/ |
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08:44 | thibaut | Hello |
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08:52 | Joubu | tcohen: shouldn't we stop pushing and get jenkins happy again? |
09:00 | @later tell tcohen 32154 is missing dbic changes! | |
09:00 | huginn` | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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09:56 | davidnind | Support Library: I experimented by add some text between two<br/>s in both ISBD and OPACISBD system preferences - viewing the record page was all I needed for the changes to show |
09:57 | Support Library: maybe share what you are using in paste.koha-community.org (not that I really know anything about ISBD) | |
10:03 | cait | hello #koha |
10:07 | SupportLibrary[m] | <davidnind> "Support Library: I experimented..." <- Okey |
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11:22 | oleonard | o/ |
11:22 | cait | \o |
11:25 | Election meeting today: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_16_November_2022 | |
11:44 | oleonard | cait very busy with the string bugs :) A sign of a busy translator I assume? |
11:45 | cait | yeah, trying to do some every day... it's quite a piece of work |
11:45 | big piece | |
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11:45 | oleonard | I will be working on Bug 32046 today, by the way |
11:46 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32046 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , When adding a new records from a staged files, there are style issues |
11:49 | cait | thx! |
11:49 | I'll be back a little later to do more testing | |
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13:52 | tcohen | hola #koha |
13:53 | cait | Joubu: around? |
13:53 | got a question about bug 31891? | |
13:53 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31891 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Regression: show "MARC staging results" with clear link to manage staged batch |
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13:54 | cait | ah... got it resolved! |
13:56 | tcohen | hola cait |
13:57 | cait: strings have been updated with the e-resource stuff | |
13:57 | cait | oleonard: I got this on bug 32046: FAILkoha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/addorderiso2709.tt |
13:57 | FAIL js_in_body | |
13:57 | A <script> tag found inside head, must be moved to the body (see bug 17858) | |
13:57 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32046 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , When adding a new records from a staged files, there are style issues |
13:57 | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , [OMNIBUS] Move staff client JavaScript to the footer | |
13:57 | cait | tcohen: thx :) |
13:57 | tcohen++ bgkriegel++ | |
13:57 | tcohen | bgkriegel++ |
13:57 | cait | i am working on staging related bugs |
13:57 | oleonard | cait: It's a false positive. That template is an exception. |
13:58 | cait | oleonard: thx! |
13:58 | ... and it's in the notes too, sorry to bother | |
13:58 | tcohen | cait |
13:58 | cait++ | |
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14:02 | cait | oleonard: I just found out today about the item display https://snipboard.io/DLZQ41.jpg < should we make that a bit wider/align left? |
14:03 | oleonard | Under what circumstances does that appear? I haven't seen it. |
14:03 | cait | yeah, it's a bit miraculous |
14:04 | I used the sample records and instructions on bug 32166 | |
14:04 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32166 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , When adding to a basket from a staged file we may use the wrong inputs |
14:04 | cait | happy to sign bug 32046 as is and have that as a follow-up later? |
14:05 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32046 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , When adding a new records from a staged files, there are style issues |
14:05 | oleonard | Yes, I can work on that next |
14:05 | cait | ok |
14:05 | do you want me to file the bug? | |
14:05 | oleonard | That would be very helpful, thank you |
14:08 | cait | bug 32231 |
14:08 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32231 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Improve display of items, when items are created from staged files |
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14:58 | oleonard | cait: I still can't seem to see what you're seeing with the staged file items |
14:58 | cait | but yo usee the items? |
14:58 | i had the patch applied, but they appeared on the right before without too | |
14:59 | oleonard | No I don't see the items at all |
14:59 | ashimema | Afternoon all |
14:59 | oleonard | Not with the records on 32166, not with my own file that I know has items in it. |
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15:00 | ashimema | Wide-screen? |
15:00 | * ashimema | is bored at the station waiting for the train home |
15:00 | cait | small screen here |
15:01 | also: I think it's time for IRC meeting? | |
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15:01 | cait | oleonard: it's a screen size issue I think, I was having mine squashed, maybe if you try that? |
15:02 | tuxayo: around? | |
15:03 | everyone ready for the meeting? | |
15:03 | I can chair if that's ok and tuxayo is not here? | |
15:03 | but I think we should have it... so we go ta release team again | |
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15:04 | oleonard | Who's here? |
15:04 | qa_team? | |
15:04 | qa-team? | |
15:04 | :| | |
15:04 | thd | Broken bots. |
15:04 | oleonard | No wahanui |
15:05 | thd | Who can restart wahanui? |
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15:05 | tuxayo-webchat | hi :) |
15:05 | sorry, a bit late for the meeting | |
15:06 | cait | aah you are here ! |
15:06 | tuxayo-webchat | Anyone to cochair? I have to leave in 20min ^^" |
15:06 | cait | I can |
15:06 | but i have to turn off the washing machine sometime in between... sould start 'screaming' now every minute | |
15:07 | tuxayo-webchat | ok! |
15:07 | tuxayo | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 16 November 2022 |
15:07 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Nov 16 15:07:41 2022 UTC. The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
15:07 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
15:07 | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_16_november_2022' | |
15:07 | tuxayo | #chair cait |
15:07 | huginn` | Current chairs: cait tuxayo |
15:08 | tuxayo | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_16_November_2022 Today's agenda |
15:08 | #topic Introductions | |
15:08 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
15:08 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions, Argentina |
15:08 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
15:09 | lukeg | #info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions, Colorado, USA |
15:10 | tuxayo | #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Limited, France |
15:10 | #topic Announcements | |
15:10 | cait | kidclamp: ashimema Joubu? |
15:10 | tuxayo | Anything to announce that doesn't fit in the other topics? |
15:10 | cait | nothing from me |
15:11 | tcohen | I've got some RM announcements |
15:11 | cait | you got your own topic :) |
15:11 | tuxayo | Wiki upgrade! Thanks again to the people that did it! ^^ |
15:11 | * tcohen | is feeding the kids minutes before school drop |
15:12 | tuxayo | moving on? |
15:12 | tcohen | can I go first? |
15:12 | tuxayo | ok |
15:12 | cait | #info Wiki upgrade is done! Thanks to thd, mtj and tcohen and everyone involved :) |
15:12 | tuxayo | #topic Update from the Release manager (22.11) |
15:13 | tcohen | #info Last translations update done, minor thing |
15:13 | #info Please take care of the Major and Critical bugs in the queue ASAP | |
15:13 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
15:14 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-E |
15:14 | tcohen | #info Our CI and KTD tools are being upgraded for the new node.js dependencies introduced by ERM, please keep your KTD updated |
15:14 | i.e. ktd pull | |
15:14 | tuxayo | ok 👍️ |
15:14 | tcohen | that's it, not much time left for the releaes |
15:14 | get involved on fixing things, please | |
15:15 | cait | +1 :) |
15:15 | tuxayo | > keep your KTD updated |
15:15 | Good to know, since the images are regenerated on every push on main/master. Even if no change. | |
15:15 | tcohen | #info the KTD images have been added the node_modules |
15:16 | #info to allow offline working | |
15:16 | tuxayo | Ah cool |
15:16 | tcohen | also, so we have a more robust way to test things on CI |
15:16 | ashimema | 🙂 |
15:16 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
15:17 | tcohen | thd++ |
15:17 | thd++ | |
15:17 | cait | thd++ |
15:17 | tuxayo | thd++ |
15:17 | Moving on? | |
15:17 | tcohen | yup |
15:18 | tuxayo | #topic Elections: Roles for 23.05 |
15:18 | tcohen | I'll bother everyone until the release |
15:18 | anyway :-D | |
15:18 | tuxayo | #info https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_23.05 |
15:18 | old stable RMaint missing 😱 | |
15:18 | thd | Before moving on |
15:19 | cait | yes, we have some roles missing i think |
15:19 | ashimema | Hmm, no 22.05... |
15:19 | tuxayo | Translation Manager 😱 |
15:19 | thd | I assume we are still waiting for the mail system to be fixed on the server where the wiki is running. |
15:19 | cait | also translation manager |
15:19 | ashimema | I'd offer but I'm going to have my hands full getting our new Devs up to speed |
15:19 | cait | tcohen: do you know if Bernardo wants to continue? |
15:19 | tuxayo | Packaging Team 😱 Continuous integration infrastructure maintainer 😱 |
15:20 | cait | oh ok, yes, that too |
15:20 | mtj: around by chance? | |
15:20 | ashimema | And I have a seeking suspicion it is going to be a hard one to maintain for the next cycle with the changes in 22.11 |
15:20 | tuxayo | > a hard one to maintain for the next cycle |
15:20 | 22.05? Right >< | |
15:21 | cait | I suggest we have elections anyway and maybe a mail askin for those specific roles to list again? |
15:21 | tuxayo | Yeah |
15:21 | At least vote for all the rest | |
15:21 | tcohen | Bernardo is in |
15:21 | ashimema | Intention here is to get the new Devs involved in community from day one . Well, tomorrow really as day one was Monday, but they've not got their computers yet 😂 |
15:21 | cait | one less worry :) bgkriegel |
15:21 | tuxayo | bgkriel++ |
15:21 | lukeg | I signed up for 22.11 rmaint but I am amendable to maintaining any version :) |
15:21 | cait | bgkriegel++ |
15:22 | oleonard | composing patches in their heads I hope ashimema |
15:22 | tuxayo | thanks tcohen for reaching |
15:22 | ashimema | Haha |
15:22 | tcohen | he's always open to continue, or step down if there's another volunteer |
15:22 | tuxayo | write patch on paper and fax them! |
15:22 | low tech | |
15:22 | ashimema | At a push I might be able to sell maintaining 22.11 as a team here.. would need a conversation with the boss first |
15:23 | * tcohen | remembers writing assembler on a paper sheet for an exam... |
15:23 | cait | java ... hell. |
15:23 | such a talkative language | |
15:23 | anyway, good ideas all around | |
15:23 | * ashimema | forsee lots of patches to 22.11 in the next few months.. but hopefully mostly easy ones |
15:23 | cait | i thnk 22.11 is gonna be hit hard for a while as we are still fixing styles |
15:23 | ashimema | Yup |
15:23 | Agreed | |
15:23 | tuxayo | Worst case, we might ask Arthur or Wainui to move up a release but keep the same backport policy than their current commitment. Thus much less backport to 22.05 |
15:24 | cait | but those should not be super evil ones |
15:24 | ashimema | But I could us it to sharpen my new Devs git skills ;) |
15:24 | With my watchfull eye on top | |
15:24 | * tcohen | has to leave |
15:24 | tuxayo | Or ashimema you could also have a restricted backport policy to limit your commitment. |
15:24 | tcohen | +1 on a vote |
15:24 | ashimema | Vote . Well sort the rest between us 😜 |
15:24 | * tuxayo | too |
15:25 | tcohen | didn't lukeg volunteer for 22.11? |
15:25 | ashimema | He did |
15:25 | 22.05 is missing, he said he could do either | |
15:25 | tcohen | ah |
15:25 | ok! | |
15:25 | bbiab | |
15:25 | ashimema | I think 22.05 is too high commitment for ptfs-e right now |
15:25 | tuxayo | #startvoteTEST Do you approve the current proposals for th 23.05 Team Yes, No, Abstain |
15:26 | ↑something like that? | |
15:26 | *for the | |
15:26 | ashimema | Yup |
15:26 | oleonard | =1 |
15:26 | cait | i think you need something before Yes |
15:26 | so it recognizes the options? | |
15:26 | tuxayo | ashimema: even if treating it like oldoldstable instead of oldstable. Not ideal but if noone have the time to commit full that's a backup plan. |
15:27 | Ah yes lol | |
15:27 | #startvote Do you approve the current proposals for the 23.05 team? Yes, No, Abstain | |
15:27 | huginn` | Begin voting on: Do you approve the current proposals for the 23.05 team? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
15:27 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
15:27 | tuxayo | #vote yes |
15:27 | oleonard | #vote yes |
15:27 | cait | #vote yes |
15:27 | kidclamp | #vote yes |
15:28 | thd | #vote Yes |
15:28 | ashimema | #vote yes |
15:28 | tuxayo | cait: the meeting it yours! |
15:28 | tcohen | #vote yes |
15:28 | * tuxayo | runs away => [ ] |
15:28 | tuxayo | see ya |
15:28 | cait | hm |
15:28 | ashimema | Coolios |
15:28 | cait | hope I can end the vote then :) |
15:29 | giving it a few more secons | |
15:29 | ashimema | Did he chair you |
15:29 | cait | yep |
15:29 | ashimema | If so you can |
15:29 | tcohen | yes |
15:29 | cait | #endvote |
15:29 | huginn` | Voted on "Do you approve the current proposals for the 23.05 team?" Results are |
15:29 | Yes (7): cait, oleonard, ashimema, tuxayo, kidclamp, tcohen, thd | |
15:29 | lukeg | #vote yes |
15:29 | ashimema | Haha |
15:29 | Too slow lukeg 😂 | |
15:29 | khall | #vote yes |
15:29 | lukeg | lol |
15:29 | * khall | shakes fist |
15:29 | ashimema | Super quick vote, lol |
15:29 | thd | Missed a few votes |
15:29 | cait | #agreed The release team for 23.05 is elected as stated on the wiki page today :) |
15:30 | ashimema | Never seen one that quick |
15:30 | Hehe | |
15:30 | cait | was i too fast? |
15:30 | ashimema | #koha in race mode |
15:30 | cait | well... apply some speed to your queues! |
15:30 | ok, we are moving on in a moment | |
15:30 | ashimema | Nah, we had a solid yes from all.. the last vote will be in the meeting logs too |
15:30 | cait | after celebrations |
15:30 | confetti! | |
15:31 | thd | A few too many people not in front of their IRC interfaces. |
15:31 | cait | ok moving on |
15:31 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
15:31 | lukeg? lilliputech? | |
15:32 | Well, lots of pushing happened, so I think we are probably good there | |
15:32 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
15:33 | Nothing new here - get to the bad bugs please! | |
15:33 | someone still with me? :) | |
15:33 | oleonard | Still here! |
15:33 | ashimema | I'm here |
15:33 | cait | #topic Status of roadmap projects |
15:33 | I propose postponing that to next meeting, ok? | |
15:33 | ashimema | QA has been fast and furious of late.. |
15:34 | Lots and lots of small quick bugs.. | |
15:34 | Yeah, postpone that one I reckon | |
15:34 | oleonard | +1 to postponing roadmap |
15:34 | cait | #info update on road map is postponed to next meeting |
15:34 | #topic Actions form last meeting | |
15:35 | #action cait Update wiki page for LTS | |
15:35 | taking over from davidnind again | |
15:35 | davidnind to send an email to the mailing lists on roles for 23.05: DONE | |
15:35 | For after release, but so we don't lose them: | |
15:35 | #action tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together - deferred until after the 22.11 release | |
15:36 | #action tcohen to draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list | |
15:36 | #action oleonard ashimema draft in the developer handbook how to form our modals. With template of a simple case and a case with form inside.: focus is currently on staff interface redesign changes, see the draft style guide (WIP) | |
15:36 | Next one we can maybe resolve, but in the next topic | |
15:36 | oleonard | Too busy chasing bugs in master to work on handbook |
15:36 | cait | #topic General development discussion |
15:37 | #info Question: Can we claim ES7 support now? | |
15:37 | kidclamp maybe? | |
15:38 | ook | |
15:38 | let's keep this for th enext one | |
15:38 | I have a feeling we won't make much prorss on the other topics today either, are we ok with postponing? | |
15:39 | #info Topics postponed to next meeting (after release) | |
15:39 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
15:39 | thd | Moved meetings are tricky? |
15:39 | cait | can someone help me out there? 2 weeks, wednesday, but what time? |
15:40 | thd: yeah, we had missed the one before this | |
15:40 | ashimema | Gotta go, dashing for the train now |
15:40 | cait | have a safe trip! |
15:41 | #info Next meeting: 30 November 2022, 15 UTC | |
15:42 | thx all for voting! | |
15:42 | thd | Checking for what we did previously for next meeting. The previous next meeting was already scheduled for a date and time next week. |
15:42 | cait | #endmeeting |
15:42 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Nov 16 15:42:08 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
15:42 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-11-16-15.07.html | |
15:42 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-11-16-15.07.txt | |
15:42 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]16-15.07.log.html | |
15:42 | lukeg | Have a great day all! |
15:42 | oleonard | tuxayo++ |
15:42 | cait | thd: ok, i didn't have that info - the script will take it from this one now |
15:42 | oleonard | cait++ |
15:43 | thd | I took too long to report that I was looking. |
15:49 | cait: For reference, next meeting had been proposed for 23 Nov. 22:00 UTC. | |
15:50 | cait | maybe tuxayo can check on i tlater, wiki page has not been added yet - but as we had a meeting thi sweek, maybe it's ok to have 2 weeks, next week will be busy with release |
15:52 | thd | Yes, the update is not quite automatic. davidnind runs a script manually from the information generated in the meeting if understand correctly. |
15:54 | By changing the week, I think that we have also now avoided a two meetings in one day conflict with the general meeting coming 7 December. | |
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16:04 | oleonard | cait: I didn't have anything specified in MarcItemFieldsToOrder. That's why I didn't see the item stuff |
16:06 | cait | oleonard: ah yep |
16:17 | oleonard | cait: Probably a dumb distinction, but I felt I needed to follow up on Bug 32046 rather than add the patch on a separate bug because felt it was too broken to wait. |
16:17 | huginn` | 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32046 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , When adding a new records from a staged files, there are style issues |
16:17 | cait | it's ok :) trust your judgement |
16:19 | oleonard | I'm always learning about things I didn't know Koha did :) |
16:26 | reiveune | bye |
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16:26 | cait | me too |
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17:00 | ashimema | hmm.. tethered mobile connection is a bit rubbish for a ktd pull |
17:00 | ooopsies | |
17:06 | cait | oops :) |
17:18 | tcohen | holaaa |
17:20 | ashimema: I always switch to tethered mobile connection for ktd pull because my 6Mbps connection drives me nuts :-P | |
17:20 | * tcohen | is waiting for Starlink |
17:20 | oleonard | :| |
17:21 | davidnind | Starlink is great! Beats the "Rural" broadband I had before by a country mile. |
17:22 | * tcohen | already pre-ordered Starlink |
17:22 | tcohen | just waiting, it is supposed to arrive by december |
17:23 | davidnind | that will be a great Christmas present! |
17:24 | tcohen | :-D |
17:28 | @later tell marcelr you might be right, propose a different approach and let's check what's best for later coding using it | |
17:28 | huginn` | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
17:34 | oleonard | i wonder if something like this would work: https://snipboard.io/pFqeSM.jpg |
17:39 | tcohen | oleonard: what are we looking at |
17:40 | oleonard | Moving the "edit search" and "search within results" controls into the sidebar on search results |
17:40 | cait | for the left side? |
17:40 | can you collapse/uncollapse those sections? | |
17:41 | i thnk i like it, it's a bit easier to spot | |
18:02 | ashimema | Nice |
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18:58 | cait | oleonard: mildly bad news |
18:58 | oleonard | :D |
18:59 | cait | https://snipboard.io/QHUtIW.jpg |
18:59 | the longer descriptions blow up the input fields | |
19:00 | I tihnk in the last iteration it looked better | |
19:00 | but the first tab looks much better with the new patch set | |
19:03 | davidnind | I just added a comment about the narrow label widths and wrapping to the bug 🙂 |
19:04 | cait | heh I noticed when saving mine :) |
19:04 | * cait | hands oleonard the cookie jar |
19:05 | davidnind | and chocolate and coffee as well... |
19:05 | oleonard | This is my cue to leave for the day XD |
19:05 | I'll get back to it tomorrow! | |
19:05 | Thanks for testing | |
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