IRC log for #koha, 2022-11-02

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03:10 tuxayo Tough to be a librarian managing electronic ressources, from what I see from the eRM module, it seems so boooooring XD
03:10 Forms, forms and forms
03:13 And doing it in spreadsheet must be terrible. eRM++
03:17 Joubu++ the eRM technical documentation page is great: https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]oha-erm/wiki/home
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07:46 reiveune hello
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07:58 alex_ Bonjour
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09:04 ashimema eRM is certainly an interesting module
09:05 It's not quiet as hard as it looks at first though Tuxayo.. you'll be testing all the manual forms I imagine.. in most cases they'll have some sort of subscription that fills in chunks of that for them.. the ebsco stuff.. but yeah, it's still a bit of a pain regardless
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10:07 * cait waves
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10:09 cait tcohen: can you please run the meeting script? or does it no longer work? wanted to add elections to next dev IRC meeting
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10:26 * cait waves
10:43 ashimema ooh.. am I back
10:43 yeay
10:43 got a moment cait.. I want to pick someones brains about notices
10:44 oleonard o/
10:44 cait yes
10:44 ashimema we have a 'catalogue' module named in the notices templates... but I can't find anywhere in the codebase that triggers a GetPreparedLetter using that module code..
10:44 cait was just about to dive into Koha stuff
10:44 ashimema does that mean it currently can't actually be used in any meaningful way
10:44 cait the LIST and CART mail if that patch makes it in uses it
10:44 * ashimema is considering converting it to 'catalog' to go with our american english spelling standards
10:44 ashimema so people have been able to create a 'Catalog' type notice for years but never actually use it for sending anything.
10:45 oh really..
10:45 cait let me check something
10:45 ashimema ok.. so I'm better of switching my new templates to 'catalogue' then instead of using 'catalog' as the code
10:45 * ashimema is aware it's my mistake to use 'catalog' as the code in my new submissions..  I hadn't spotted it.
10:46 cait we could still switch it - I was just checking it reall ylooks like we have no default notices living there...
10:46 interesting
10:46 the module right now determines which tables/columns you see in the notice editor
10:47 ashimema yup.. no default notices and a `rg "module\s*=>\s*'catalogue` returns not results codebase wide either
10:47 ah.. that makes sense..
10:47 so a switch really aught to go in it's own bug
10:47 I'll update my default notices to use the original name
10:47 just feels a bit dirty somehow.. but like those uri's that now have /catalogue/catalog' in
10:48 cait yeah... someday
10:48 going to dive into bug 31713 btw
10:48 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31713 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Allow easy printing of patron's fines
10:51 ashimema awesome
10:51 thanks
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12:34 * cait goes button hunting
12:47 cait oleonard: with bug 32068 applied, why is the save button on matching rules not yellow? is it me? it has the classes
12:47 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Consistent classes for primary buttons: Administration
12:49 oleonard It's a bug in our CSS... Not sure whether it will be fixed by Bug 32044 or not
12:49 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=32044 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Yellow buttons are styled differently in different spots
12:50 cait ok, should we note it somewhere or wait it out?
12:51 oleonard It will be fixed by 32044, just confirmed.
12:58 cait thx1
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13:21 ashimema nice one
13:21 oleonard++
13:23 cait oleonard++
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14:03 ashimema bug 31877 cait
14:03 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31877 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Capitalization: Delete this Tag and Repeat this Tag
14:03 cait yes
14:03 what did I do?
14:03 ashimema should we also fix tooltips?.. we have things like 'Click to Expand this Tag'
14:03 cait that's on the other bug
14:03 ashimema should that become 'Click to expand this tag'
14:03 oh.. it's two bugs.. I see
14:04 hehe.. at least I'm being diligent 😜
14:04 cait yes :) Caroline had filed them separately, I merged 2+3 when I noticed it was easier
14:04 ashimema++ :)
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14:48 Pascal Hi together :)
14:48 I wanted to change something in the intranet syspreferences and always get the following error:
14:49 C4::Log::logaction(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'script' in 'field list' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Patron.pm line 345
14:49 cait that's a little odd
14:49 Pascal Does anyone have a tip what causes this problem?
14:49 cait what did you want to change?
14:49 Pascal I wanted to change the  AcqCreateItem
14:50 from Placing an order
14:50 cait hm odd can you change any other pref?
14:50 Pascal to catalogging the record
14:50 i'll try one
14:51 i tried to change the opacusercss and also get the internal server error :(
14:51 cait which is your exact Koha version?
14:52 and when you go to About > system information, is there any problem shown there?
14:52 Pascal my koha version is 22.05.06.000
14:53 and in system information is only: "No warnings."
14:54 cait hm https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha/Patron.pm#L345
14:56 did you just update or change anything else?
14:58 this is a pretty wild guess... ubt anything in intranetuserjs maybe?
14:59 Pascal no its a fresh installation and imported in a database dump from a koha instance of 22.05.02
14:59 i thought minor version differences shouldn't cause any problems :(
15:00 intranetuserjs is also empty
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15:12 cait i am sorry Pascal
15:13 I have no idea :(
15:13 maybe if noone can hel phere try emailing the mailinglist or reporting a bug
15:18 Pascal anyway thank you for trying to help!! :)
15:23 cait you are welcome
15:25 Pascal: maybe a last idea
15:25 if you create a report with "select * from action_logs limit 10" is there a script column at the end?
15:26 I think it maybe has to do with bug 30984 that added the script column there
15:26 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30984 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Action logs should log the cronjob script name that generated the given log
15:27 cait oooh and did you get the web installer after importing your old db?
15:27 you should restart all the things to trigger it
15:27 minor releases can have database updates, but Koha will take care of it once it notices, that's possibly the issue here
15:27 Pascal: ^
15:28 try restarting Plack first
15:30 Pascal I did not get the scripts column
15:30 cait yes, it's added by a database update in 22.05.06
15:30 try to restart Plack, do you know how to do it?
15:30 Pascal koha-plack --restart
15:30 right?
15:30 cait i tihnk so
15:31 Pascal thank you i will try it now :)
15:31 cait not sure if you need the instance there, probably not
15:31 what shoudl happen is that the web installer comes up
15:31 taking you through the necessary database updates
15:31 hope plack is the one... we can restart other things if it isn't :D
15:33 Pascal the web installer didn't come up
15:33 so what can we restart next? :D
15:35 cait hm memcached maybe?
15:36 sudo service memcachd restart I think
15:38 anything?
15:39 Pascal yes
15:39 * cait chews finger nails
15:39 Pascal sorry that im writing so slow
15:40 The Webinstaller came up :D
15:40 cait no problem
15:40 Pascal Thank you very much!
15:41 cait Running sudo koha-upgrade-schema instance might have also worked, but using the web installer should have the same result as the cLI one
15:42 Pascal so if im using koha-upgrade-schema the old opac will show up?
15:42 im a little bit confused right now :D
15:42 cait it should have also trggered the installer
15:42 in the database, there is a preference with your koha version
15:43 in the installation, there is a file with the version
15:43 if the version in the db is lower than the one in the file, then Koha will try to fix it by running th enecessary database updates
15:43 i think there are just different ways to trigger these - one is on command line and will run through them or the web installer
15:43 we just had to make Koha notice the difference
15:44 your old 22.05.02 didn't have a database column added later, now it should have it
15:45 Pascal ahh thanks!
15:45 now everythings works :)
15:46 cait bbl
15:49 Pascal Have a nice day! :)
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19:15 fridolin yellow
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19:37 ashimema Blue
19:40 cait pink
19:46 12 bugs in the qa queue
19:46 with some help...
19:53 11
20:02 tuxayo OMG that's amazing
20:02 cait++
20:02 ashimema++
20:04 And I might have forgotten other since dashboard stats are only since 1 nov
20:04 cait 10
20:05 ashimema Hehe
20:05 Amazing work cait
20:06 I copied your email about tomorrow's bug events to our new customers slack group btw Tuxayo and I intent to big you up a bit at our customers event in a couple of weeks time
20:07 Hopefully that'll help get a few more interested in community things
20:07 tuxayo ashimema++
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20:28 tuxayo ashimema: If someone from a university library comes, I wonder if by proposing them to play with the eRM sandbox, there is any change of finding a bug or doing enough in depth testing so that it can be useful. Or maybe I should stick to tickets with test plans.
20:32 ashimema I think feature wise eRM is pretty well tested and it happens.. Joubu is after technical code review more than anything else
20:33 So probably not worth pushing for that tomorrow
20:33 I'm midway through doing such a review myself
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23:02 tuxayo ashimema: We can switch it signoff then with all the combined testing.
23:04 Ok, instead of going through Jonathan F's KohaCon presentation & documentation I'll switch to reviewing the code.
23:06 cait 7
23:06 and with that... I am leaving :)
23:18 tuxayo cait++
23:37 dcook__ Whoa late one..

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