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05:32 | saa | Warning The patron used for the self checkout module at the OPAC does not have the self_check => self_checkout_module permission. where to set this permission |
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05:41 | davidnind[m] | saa: staff interface > patrons > view the details for the account setup for self checkout > More button > Set permissions |
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06:06 | davewood | mtj: didnt mean to rub you the wrong way, what im saying is that the docs do mention non-local-DB setups and even have some instructions but they are not very clear and can use some improvement. |
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06:16 | marcelr | hi #koha |
06:23 | mtj | davewood: no problem... i now see the doco has info for remote install too |
06:24 | "If you are running MySQL on another server:" | |
06:30 | the doc needs some example config files hey | |
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06:30 | reiveune | hello |
06:42 | marcelr | o/ |
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06:53 | alex_ | Bonjour |
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07:04 | davewood | mtj: I can update the docs once I have all the pieces together |
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07:17 | cait | good morning #koha! |
07:19 | marcelr | hi cait |
07:21 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
07:29 | davewood | fridolin: you said you dont use koha-create. Whats your alternative way? |
07:32 | cait | davidnind[m]: I think Biblibre is not using packages |
07:33 | there are other installation methods, that don't use the package commands but the Makefile.pl (standard, dev) | |
07:33 | (not sure if frido is around, given time difference) | |
07:34 | davewood | biblibre is where fridolin works I guess? |
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07:35 | Vinod | hello |
07:36 | Guest1835 | ok |
07:37 | one of my customer is interested to see Demo of Koha Library Management Software | |
07:40 | davewood | cait: which installation method is recommended? |
07:40 | cait | packages |
07:40 | wahanui | packages are done |
07:42 | cait | but should maybe let frido or someone else explain their setup, just wanted to say there are other ways you can install Koha too |
07:42 | davewood | bad question ... which koha instance creation method is recommended. koha-create or Makefile.PL ... especially when it comes to non-local DB setup |
07:44 | fridolin | davewood: yep i work for Biblibre (France) |
07:45 | cait | I have never done non-local - I woudl guess it's possible with all installation methods |
07:45 | fridolin | we have an home-made intall script using dev install mode |
07:45 | cait | fridolin: sorry if I said something wrong |
07:45 | fridolin | one Koha per OS |
07:45 | cait: your totally correct | |
07:46 | our install mean upgrades are done manually | |
07:46 | packages are great | |
07:48 | cait | we roll our own packages including some changes, having a mix of one instance and multi-instance servers |
07:51 | davewood | fridolin: we are currently working on a ansible/lxc setup where all containers running koha share one mariadb, ES server. |
07:52 | after peeking into Makefile.PL it looks like --install_mode=standard could be the right thing for us | |
07:53 | cait | I am not sure if you will not lose all the package commands if you do that |
07:53 | what speaks against a package install in that setup? | |
07:53 | davewood | the koha-create --request-db/--populate-db didnt work so far. |
07:53 | cait | you can always adapt the koha-conf.xml - but maybe it's possible to set the koha-site-defaults too (I haven't checked yet) |
07:54 | davewood | it tells me to edit the *-request.txt file and add the DB credentials but after that nothing ever seems to use that file. |
07:55 | cait | maybe worth chatting to soem about this issue first |
07:55 | someone might be running separate db and be able to tell you | |
07:55 | davewood | thats what i started doing yesterday. also wrote an email to koha devel mailinglist. |
07:55 | cait | ah, didn't see that one yet |
07:56 | fridolin | we sometimes use remote DB but we configure that manually |
07:57 | cait | davewood: when did you send the email? https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ptember/date.html |
07:58 | davewood | to: Koha-devellists.koha-community.org subject: koha-create with remote mariadb server |
07:58 | https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ember/047322.html | |
08:18 | cait | thanks I had missed that |
08:19 | maybe try asking here a bit later today - crowds change with the timezones | |
08:38 | davewood | cait: will do, thanks |
08:46 | found a bit more info here: https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]mon.README.Debian | |
08:53 | wow, i made a mistake myself here, I am not supposed to change the data in the txt file genereated by `koha-create --request-db` but rather take the autogenerated credentials from that file and create mysql database/user with it | |
09:11 | whats supposed to be passed to `koha-create --defaultsql`? | |
09:17 | on a fresh debian installation. there has got to be a database template for a fresh koha instance. /usr/share/koha/defaults.sql.gz does not exist. | |
09:28 | mtj | davewood: i think it it will use /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql |
09:34 | if you think | |
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09:38 | mtj | hmm, it does not use any defaultsql fiel by default |
09:39 | davewood: so try using /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql | |
09:43 | koha-create --populate-db --defaultsql ./xxx/kohastructure.sql lib1 | |
09:44 | ^ you will need to manually add the db stuff to the remote database, before running that | |
09:46 | cait | mtj: could you also run the web installer? |
09:46 | mtj | yes, i think so |
09:46 | cait | I am wondering how you get the superlibrarian etc. if you do it that wy, missing the onboarding |
09:48 | mtj | i think the web-install expects an empty db, with a correct db user/passwd |
09:49 | superlibrarian user gets created at webinstall stage | |
09:50 | hmm, i wonder why the populate step is needed then? | |
09:53 | sudo koha-create --request-db lib1 | |
09:53 | sudo koha-create --use lib1 | |
09:53 | that should work... | |
09:54 | manually adding db and user to remote, after request-db step | |
10:09 | ashimema | morning |
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10:30 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
10:46 | davewood | mtj: pretty sure kohastructure.sql doesnt work because koha-create.sql does a search and replace for the string '__KOHASITE__' and that doesnt exist in kohastructure.sql |
10:47 | s/koha-create.sql/koha-create/ | |
10:59 | mtj | davewood: so where do you think you are stuck? |
10:59 | ashimema | marcelr++ |
11:14 | davewood | mtj: i think im stuck at the fact that there is no easy+clean way to automate a koha installation + instance creation with remote database. looks like I have to use the web installer. right now im doing some try&error stuff to figure out how it can be done. |
11:17 | mtj | yeah, the current workflow expects a sysadmin to manually create a db/user on the remote database |
11:20 | davewood | that I think I can automate but the database table creation seems to be invoked by the web installer only |
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11:32 | davewood | and the fact that `koha-create --populate-db` cant possibly work without passing --defaultsql but its unlclear what the value should be. |
11:32 | if you dont use --defaultsql you probably have to run the web installer | |
11:56 | domm[m] | Is there a way to get bugzilla to not jump to another ticket after an edit/update? |
11:56 | I find that mighty confusing.. | |
11:57 | oleonard-away | domm[m]: Yes, it's an option in Preferences |
11:58 | oleonard | Under Preferences -> General Preferences -> After changing a bug... |
11:58 | domm[m] | oleonard: thanks, got it! |
12:02 | cait | lol |
12:02 | i just had the same bugzilla support question by phone .) | |
12:20 | oleonard | :| |
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13:20 | davewood | i advanced a few steps and now im stuck at http://koha-demo-intra.myDNSna[…]taller/install.pl ... the credentials in /etc/koha/sites/koha-demo/koha-conf.xml dont work (Error: Invalid username or password). the remote DB still has no tables. |
13:24 | cait | you can't get in? |
13:24 | into the web installer? | |
13:24 | davewood | nope |
13:24 | cait | the tables are created aftr the login has happened, so that it's still empty would be right |
13:24 | davewood | i hoped so |
13:24 | Please log in with the username and password given to you by your systems administrator and located in your koha-conf.xml configuration file. | |
13:24 | cait | you are using the mysql credentials from the koha-conf.xml? |
13:25 | davewood | it doesnt say which credentials to use, i tried what I thought made sense |
13:25 | cait | there is a package command to get these |
13:25 | then you don't need to look in the file | |
13:26 | davewood | I didnt think of using the database credentials. they work! thanks cait. |
13:27 | cait | there is also some koha-... command that prints them for you |
13:27 | but I am not sure what it's called right now | |
13:28 | is it green? connection to db alright? (second page or so) | |
13:28 | davewood | koha-passwd? |
13:28 | cait | sounds very likely |
13:29 | domm | davewood: I'm also often confused by the fact that you need the DB-credentials when running an update/install, even though it's the web interface. But it makes sort-of-sense, because the update script uses the DB credentials to connect to the DB and install the schema |
13:31 | davewood | can the stuff the web installer does be run from commandline isntead of my browser? |
13:34 | alright ... koha instance up and running. | |
13:34 | cait | there is a script for adding superlibrarians |
13:35 | but it needs a category type before you can run that... | |
13:35 | mybe if you create an sql file that has all those first steps done and populate your db with that instead of running the installer? | |
13:41 | davewood | that might work but it doesnt seem like a good idea somehow. im happy for now and will send the info I gather as a reply to my own request on the devel koha mailinglist |
13:58 | cait | davewood: we usually run the web installer here too, not that many that it gets tedious really |
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14:04 | AndrewFH | Hello! I kinda remember seeing a bug recently to make it possible to check a patron's messaging preferences via Template Toolkit in notices. I haven't been able to find it again, though. Sound familiar to anyone? |
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14:13 | AndrewFH | it was https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30076 . thankful to find I did not make it up |
14:13 | huginn` | Bug 30076: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add ability to check patron messaging preferences from a notice |
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15:02 | reiveune | bye |
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16:03 | lukeg | hi |
16:03 | wahanui | bonjour, lukeg |
16:06 | oleonard | Hi lukeg |
17:13 | Bye lukeg | |
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20:49 | caroline | cait++ |
21:02 | cait | :) |
21:02 | i tihnk the c will be even better, a needs a follow-up | |
21:03 | just running the make command to see if I now finally fixed all warns there | |
21:03 | caroline | I followed your lead and started with w :) |
21:04 | cait | ah, I am using a regex to find and fix - still reviewing each one, but it speeds up |
21:04 | do you want that? | |
21:04 | caroline | ooh, yes! So far there were only like 6-10 in both w files |
21:06 | cait | search for: :ref:`(\w+)` |
21:06 | replace with: :ref:`\1 <\1-label>` | |
21:06 | that owrks in geany, maybe some editors want $1 instead of \1 | |
21:12 | caroline: patch for c is attached, going back now to fix some remaining issues in a | |
21:23 | I've also changed the python.conf entry, so I can see the warns for any missing labels after changes | |
21:31 | moving to e and f :) | |
21:31 | davidnind[m] | cait++ |
21:32 | caroline++ | |
21:32 | cait | davidnind++ |
21:32 | :) | |
21:45 | G-I are next | |
21:58 | tackling l-o next | |
22:01 | caroline | you're so fast! |
22:01 | I just puched my merge request for T and W | |
22:01 | I have to go, birthday party tonight! | |
22:02 | cait | ooh have fun! |
22:02 | your birthday party? | |
22:02 | caroline | no, my partner's cousin |
22:03 | cait++ davidnind++ docsteam++ | |
22:03 | cait | ah good, didn't miss it then :) have a great evening and weekend |
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